WOW, This Is Hard To Believe 2024
TxHawgs reply :
Can u imagine a rod lighter, more sensitive and stronger than a NRX! I can't, but it's true. Rumor has it that Loomis will be unveiling it at ICAST 17. I'm putting a hold on any NRX purchases. Man would love to see a raw unfinished black blank w Torzite guides and a split grip different than the current NRX one. I imagine this things selling for $7 $750 $800. I'm over the current NRX and was hoping they were gonna change it. But I was told that the new GLX is not selling like they hoped lol no kidding! Took who knows how much money in design and engineers to come up w something that I could of told them in 5 min wasn't gonna be a big seller. Anyway they thought it was gonna do better and eliminate the NRX and come out w this new one. But since the GLX is a flop they r keeping the NRX. That would of been another bad idea, ya can't go from a $400 or whatever they sell for GLX to something which I think is gonna be priced so high. They would of lost a lot of sales on the people in between buying the NRX.
bigfruits reply :
what do you not like about the NRX besides the price? The unbalanced heavy power models?
I have not fished the new GLX but i hear they are great. lighter and better balanced than the previous model. What do you not like about those?
Not trying to battle, just curious. i myself dont like the thick foregrip on the NRX BCs. my finger rests there and its not ideal.
id love to see full cork NRX BC with no foregrip (dont change spinning rods, they are perfect). better yet, blanks for sale.
-z
S Hovanec reply :
I'd love to be able to buy a NRX blank so I could build one right. Then I'd be able to compare it to the other rods I fish.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 7:13 AM, bigfruits said:what do you not like about the NRX besides the price? The unbalanced heavy models?
I have not fished the new GLX but i hear they are great. lighter and better balanced than the previous model. What do you not like about those?
Not trying to battle, just curious.
-z
Lol, can't battle over what someone prefers or dosent. Or for the reasons they don't like something right, so yea no battles needed. I don't hate the NRX or I wouldn't own 15 of them. Just don't care for the guides, would like a different handle and hate the color. I have heard the same about the GLX, why they aren't selling like they hoped I don't know. Why wouldn't I buy one, because of aesthetics alone. And it's a complaint u read in forums.
On 2/9/2017 at 7:23 AM, S Hovanec said:I'd love to be able to buy a NRX blank so I could build one right. Then I'd be able to compare it to the other rods I fish.
I wish they sold the blanks too. @S Hovanec do u have any rods on the NFC HM blanks?
S Hovanec reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 7:24 AM, TxHawgs said:
I wish they sold the blanks too. @S Hovanec do u have any rods on the NFC HM blanks?
I have one IM. It's OK. They don't offer the action/power I'm interested in. Prefer my SCVs.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
If I was a betting man, I would guess the new blank will be the Asquith. They rolled this blank out for the fly rods last year and I figured it wouldn't take long for them to use this blank in the bass world. i could be wrong, but seems like it would be the logical progression.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 8:29 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:If I was a betting man, I would guess the new blank will be the Asquith. They rolled this blank out for the fly rods last year and I figured it wouldn't take long for them to use this blank in the bass world. i could be wrong, but seems like it would be the logical progression.
I seen that rod, do you know if it's CF inside the blank? That's what I heard of this new one.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 8:53 AM, TxHawgs said:I seen that rod, do you know if it's CF inside the blank? That's what I heard of this new one.
Yup...
http://www.hatchmag.com/articles/g-loomis-back-and-going-big-its-new-asquith-fly-rods/7713573
lmbfisherman reply :
Sounds exciting.
Oklahoma Mike reply :
Everything I've heard so far about the redesigned GLX has been positive. I was happy to hear that and was thinking about picking one up, but now you having me giving that second thoughts, @TxHawgs. I'd be curious to hear what you dislike about them.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 10:08 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:
Yup...
http://www.hatchmag.com/articles/g-loomis-back-and-going-big-its-new-asquith-fly-rods/7713573
U were right then, I didn't read the article yet. But if it says that's how there built than that's them. Should be able to get an idea of cost but how they are pricing the fly rods. It's funny cuz when I heard this it wasn't long after I seen a video of those fly rods and it ran through my head quick but I should of known that was gonna be the blank.
On 2/9/2017 at 10:09 AM, Oklahoma Mike said:Everything I've heard so far about the redesigned GLX has been positive. I was happy to hear that and was thinking about picking one up, but now you having me giving that second thoughts, @TxHawgs. I'd be curious to hear what you dislike about them.
No no, I heard the same thing that they are better than the old ones. If you were thinking of getting one u should definitely check em out. I just don't like the aesthetics of them that's all.
kickerfish1 reply :
The GLX came just came out not too long ago. From all accounts they are more balanced than the NRX rods, have full handles on a few models, no recoil guides and the sensitivity is just under a NRX for about a hundred +/- less. The rods haven't been out long enough to right them off as a failure from a sales standpoint.
And based upon the design you could have told Loomis engineers that the new GLX rod line was going to fail? Sounds like they should just hire you and the problem would be solved.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 10:08 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:
Yup...
http://www.hatchmag.com/articles/g-loomis-back-and-going-big-its-new-asquith-fly-rods/7713573
Yep that's absolutely it. And with the base fly rod starting at 1k these casting rods are gonna be at least $700-$750 bucks.
Angry John reply :
That price point is deep into JDM territory with Megabass, and evergreen. That rod better be real nice!!!
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 10:34 AM, kickerfish1 said:The GLX came just came out not too long ago. From all accounts they are more balanced than the NRX rods, have full handles on a few models, no recoil guides and the sensitivity is just under a NRX for about a hundred +/- less. The rods haven't been out long enough to right them off as a failure from a sales standpoint.
And based upon the design you could have told Loomis engineers that the new GLX rod line was going to fail? Sounds like they should just hire you and the problem would be solved.
We already know they should of just hired me. I already said that? And before any Loomis fans which I have been for almost 27yrs get your panties in a bunch, I'm just repeating what they told the retailer's. And that was that the GLX hasn't been doing what they expected in sales, (WHAT THEY SAID NOT ME) blah blah blah it's all in my first post. The hiring part, ugh yea it's called a joke. Sorry if it upset you for whatever reason. Or maybe your on the board at Shimano idk but my OP certainly shouldn't upset anyone? And if it did once again I'm sorry and also jealous as I wish I only had such a simple life.
On 2/9/2017 at 10:45 AM, Angry John said:That price point is deep into JDM territory with Megabass, and evergreen. That rod better be real nice!!!
I hope so lol. And also hoping and it should be the same color as the fly rod.
MickD reply :
How can a rod by itself be "better balanced?" Just curious.
EllisJuan reply :
This is some pretty big information. I hope it is accurate...I love my NRXs and if they're going to make something even better I'm in.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Phenix has been touting carbon fiber / graphite and multi directional layering process for a while. Asquith might be the "Hagane" of rods.
Tim Kelly reply :
I know what you mean about the way rod manufacturers choose to build their rods. I really dislike the builds on all GLoomis rods, St Croix are no better, but at least you can buy blanks to build them properly. Dobyns rods are the closest to something I would build myself. I suppose they have to build a rod so that it stands out from the others on the shelf, but they seem to build them willfully ergonomically wrong! Also, why is it that no rod company can cut down a reel seat? It seems hilarious to me that companies build rods with no foregrip, which I like, but leave a mile of thread from the reel seat sticking forward. Why do the reel seat manufacturers even make the threads that long in the first place?
Rant over. I would own GLoomis rods if I could buy blanks, or if they got someone at Dobyns to design the build, but until then.... Recently bought a Shimano Zodiad spinning rod. Good job on the handle Shimano. I would have dome the guides differently, but very acceptable!
Turkey sandwich reply :
Now, I can't say that I own many $400+ rods, but...
this post mostly sounds like a gripe that manufacturers aren't making rods specifically to the exact preferences of each individual customer. To make an analogy, to me, it largely sounds like complaining about the specific shade of green an F-150 is available in or the color of the insoles of a pair of pumps my lady friend has 4 different pairs of.
To me, unless you build a custom rod, it seems like there are always going to be things that you might prefer. Unless the designs are complete ergonomic trash (and I have yet to handle a $150+ spinning or casting rod that feels this way), I don't understand there being this much gusto behind the hate.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 10:20 AM, TxHawgs said:U were right then, I didn't read the article yet. But if it says that's how there built than that's them. Should be able to get an idea of cost but how they are pricing the fly rods. It's funny cuz when I heard this it wasn't long after I seen a video of those fly rods and it ran through my head quick but I should of known that was gonna be the blank.
No no, I heard the same thing that they are better than the old ones. If you were thinking of getting one u should definitely check em out. I just don't like the aesthetics of them that's all.
Here's the excerpt from the article talking about how the Asquith blank is made...
"Loomis, which has been owned by parent company and conventional fishing industry juggernaut Shimano for many years now, built the Asquith using Shimano's "Spiral-X" technology. Spiral-X, a technology that is proprietary to Shimano, is only produced at one factory in Kumamoto, Japan. The Asquith blanks are manufactured in Japan and shipped stateside, where the rest of the rod building process is completed in Loomis' Woodland, Washington facility.
Shimano has a lot of fancy words — ones like "InfinityTape" and "Musclecarbon" — that it uses to describe exactly what Spiral-X is and what it does, but here's the gist: Spiral X blanks are built using layers of carbon fibers laid in alternating directions. The result is a three layer structure featuring an inner and outer layer cross-wrapped on opposing axes, with a straight or longitudinal middle layer. According to Loomis, this patented construction process significantly increases rod rigidity and reduces torsional motion (twist) without adding weight. Spiral X also allows for a thin wall blank, which reduces rod ovalization. If you're not familiar with rod ovalization, don't worry, most people aren't. It's a worry of big fish fighters — in the fly world think big steelhead, tarpon, barracuda, false albacore and so on — put simply, rods that feature less ovalization are less likely to break under big loads."
As far as the pricing goes for the Asquith fly rod, they start at $1,000.
KP Duty reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 10:45 AM, Angry John said:That price point is deep into JDM territory with Megabass, and evergreen. That rod better be real nice!!!
Id agree with you under the classic impression of evergreen, however, did you see the latest evergreen review on TT...less than stellar. I think when it comes to blank performance, high end American rods are the deal, and I'd put Gray's near 25 yr old glx graphite against any megabass blank today. Just playing devils advocate...
smalljaw67 reply :
The GLX redesign made the rods better, the problem was they pushed the price right inline with the NRX. So if you wanted a GLX and had the money to drop that much on a rod, what is another hundred dollars or less if you catch sales?
KP Duty reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 5:51 PM, smalljaw67 said:The GLX redesign made the rods better, the problem was they pushed the price right inline with the NRX. So if you wanted a GLX and had the money to drop that much on a rod, what is another hundred dollars or less if you catch sales?
Remember when you could get the old mbr glx for under $300 online (2002ish). You could get prettier, but really not better...
Angry John reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 5:44 PM, KP Duty said:Id agree with you under the classic impression of evergreen, however, did you see the latest evergreen review on TT...less than stellar. I think when it comes to blank performance, high end American rods are the deal, and I'd put Gray's near 25 yr old glx graphite against any megabass blank today. Just playing devils advocate...
Well there are two thoughts, one the entire package matters at this price point and how the rod looks plays a huge part at this price point. The second thing is a custom rod could be built exactly the way you want it for the same or cheaper. I see people worry about resale on a custom rod so I guess I don't understand people who would spend that much on a rod and worry about how much its worth to someone else. I know some buy and sell a lot so maybe its that crowd.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
I have to admit that I am a gear ***** and I love high end gear. I have quite a few NRX rods along with a dozen+ customs rods. With that being said, this Asquith is above what I even desire. I really have the feel of my NRX's dialed in and like that the Xpeditor service for the NRX rods are at $100 (vs. $250 for the Asquith). The cost of ownership of the Asquith just seems beyond the reasonable realm for me.
With that being said, I am always a sucker for a really good drop shot rod and will keep an open mind on that one. ?
roadwarrior reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 7:07 AM, TxHawgs said:Can u imagine a rod lighter, more sensitive and stronger than a NRX!
Rainshadow Eternity 2
http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/eternity2-bass-casting/
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 11:08 AM, MickD said:How can a rod by itself be "better balanced?" Just curious.
Don't ask silly questions! It's G Loomis! Just shell out the bucks!
lmbfisherman reply :
That price range is definitely out of reach for me, I'll probably still purchase GLXs and continue my hunt for my first NRX.
fishindad reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 6:00 PM, KP Duty said:Remember when you could get the old mbr glx for under $300 online (2002ish). You could get prettier, but really not better...
To this day I believe there are no better rods made than the original Fuji titanium SiC, Wiebe handle GLX MBR842, 843, and 844 rods. Next closest would be the original (made in the USA!) Fuji SiC Fenwick Techna AV rods. No bling, you could feel a frog's hair twitch. But more power to anyone wanting to drop NRX coin on bass rods. You can tell I'm old school, lol.
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 4:39 AM, fishindad said:But more power to anyone wanting to drop NRX coin on bass rods. You can tell I'm old school, lol.
You also have to account for the hype train. Some people get sucked in by it.
bigfruits reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 4:39 AM, fishindad said:To this day I believe there are no better rods made than the original Fuji titanium SiC, Wiebe handle GLX MBR842, 843, and 844 rods. Next closest would be the original (made in the USA!) Fuji SiC Fenwick Techna AV rods. No bling, you could feel a frog's hair twitch. But more power to anyone wanting to drop NRX coin on bass rods. You can tell I'm old school, lol.
I have the 5 old non Wiebe GLX MBRs and they are great rods. I dont think I will ever sell one.
The NRX blank is just a different animal. Feels nothing like the old GLX. The increase in sensitivity and decrease in weight (complete factory rod) is quite noticeable. They really are hard to put down.
The downside is that the longer heavy power models are unbalanced.
HookRz reply :
Great deals can be found on Loomis. Ogbuhda can testify to that. His Field and Stream had NRX going for $220 about a week ago. Bought one and an IMX I wanted for top water for $110. I like the NRX 843jwr (except for the recoils) but will sell it used to some tournament guy so I can say the IMX was free. I just don't feel I need that good of tackle to catch bass. I like my "good enough" Avid, IMX range rods. Interested in trying Dobyns but no one sells them around here. Love to follow and play the market though!
MickD reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 2:16 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Don't ask silly questions! It's G Loomis! Just shell out the bucks!
It's not a silly question. Think about it. The idea of attributing "balance" to a rod without a reel is meaningless. Say you put a 9 oz reel on it and conclude it's balanced. What happens when you put a 7 oz reel on it? Is it still balanced? Or an 11 oz reel on it? Is it still balanced?
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 10:23 AM, MickD said:
It's not a silly question. Think about it. The idea of attributing "balance" to a rod without a reel is meaningless. Say you put a 9 oz reel on it and conclude it's balanced. What happens when you put a 7 oz reel on it? Is it still balanced? Or an 11 oz reel on it? Is it still balanced?
A well balanced rod with no reel doesn't change too much when you add a reel to it. Yes, you can use a heavier reel to help get the balance to where you like it. I and others often do it. For example my 7'2 xh balances great with a 5.5oz steez 'about 3/4 the way up the foregrip' and just the same with 7oz+ monoblock. The balance point changes by about 1/4"
MickD reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 10:56 AM, rippin-lips said:A well balanced rod with no reel doesn't change too much when you add a reel to it. Yes, you can use a heavier reel to help get the balance to where you like it. I and others often do it. For example my 7'2 xh balances great with a 5.5oz steez 'about 3/4 the way up the foregrip' and just the same with 7oz+ monoblock. The balance point changes by about 1/4"
It may not change too much, but it has to change. The only way a rod can remain balanced at the same point with different weight reels is if the center of gravity of the rod (balance point) is at the center of gravity of the reel. Which would, I believe, be about in the center of the reel seat, between the "clamping points." Not 3/4 the way up the foregrip. If it is balanced there with one reel, the balance point will move back with a heavier reel because it will require more tip weight to balance the heavier reel placed behind the original balance point.
I guess a rod by itself could be considered "balanced" if the balance point were in the middle of the seat. Most often the tip is heavy and to get it balanced in the middle of the seat the rear grip would be so long that it would be impractical to fish with. The challenge is always to get the blank and guides as light as possible. Then someone has to add a 1/2 oz lure way out at the end and bingo, the balance is screwed up again.
Tim Kelly reply :
Isn't the fulcrum exactly where the reel is, so the reel, of pretty much any weight is not going to effect the balance significantly?
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 2:58 PM, Tim Kelly said:Isn't the fulcrum exactly where the reel is, so the reel, of pretty much any weight is not going to effect the balance significantly?
That is correct. It's why the balance point doesn't change 'by more than 1/4 inch' on my rod with 5oz or 8oz reel.
bigfruits reply :
Like rippin-lips said, the weight of the reel changes the balance point but not by much.
NRX 873 w/ Metanium MGL (175g w/ no line), NRX 873 w/ Scorpion 71 (190g + braid)
Tim Kelly reply :
The balance point doesn't really matter though as you hold the rod at the reel, so the balance around the reel is the only thing that makes a rod feel more or less tip heavy.
bigfruits reply :
not sure I understand what you are saying.
in my picture, adding 15g (+braid) to the reel moves the balance point over slightly. If I were to add the 15g to the butt of the rod instead of to the reel, the balance point would be closer to the reel and the rod feels less tip heavy.
Tim Kelly reply :
Of course. You are demonstrating where the actual balance point is. Earlier in the tread there was a statement about the reel weight effecting the rod balance. While it effects where the rod balances, you actually hold the rod at the reel, so that's the fulcrum. A heavier or lighter reel can't have much effect on the rod's balance when it's at the fulcrum, so the only way you can judge a rod's balance in a practical way is to hold it at the reel seat, where your hand will naturally be, and see how it feels. If you feel the need to make the tip lighter you have to add weight to the butt as a different weight reel won't change the felt balance of the rod.
bigfruits reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 10:27 PM, Tim Kelly said:If you feel the need to make the tip lighter you have to add weight to the butt as a different weight reel won't change the felt balance of the rod.
adding weight to the reel will change the feel of the rod. in my example above, using the heavier reel makes the rod a LITTLE bit less tip heavy in hand. not an efficient way to balance a rod but it does change the feel just a bit. test it out when you get a chance.
if the reel (fulcrum) was exactly at the balance point, adding weight to the reel would not affect balance.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 10:23 AM, MickD said:It's not a silly question.
Of course it is not a silly question. I was being facetious. You made a perfectly good point. it is GLoomis that is silly.
MickD reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 2:58 PM, Tim Kelly said:Isn't the fulcrum exactly where the reel is, so the reel, of pretty much any weight is not going to effect the balance significantly?
The fulcrum is where the rod will balance on a support, and the fulcrum of the rod is usually in front of the reel seat due to most rods being tip-heavy. If the rod balances right at the reel seat, then any weight reel will not affect the balance. If one really wants to achieve perfect balance of a rod/reel assembly, then get a shorter blank of very high modulus and put micros on it. Probably a very high quality 6 foot blank with micros stands a pretty good chance of being "balanced" with any reel.
On 2/11/2017 at 1:23 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Of course it is not a silly question. I was being facetious. You made a perfectly good point. it is GLoomis that is silly.
I've always been a little too literal. This has been a really good discussion, though.
Tim Kelly reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 5:43 AM, MickD said:The fulcrum is where the rod will balance on a support, and the fulcrum of the rod is usually in front of the reel seat due to most rods being tip-heavy. If the rod balances right at the reel seat, then any weight reel will not affect the balance. If one really wants to achieve perfect balance of a rod/reel assembly, then get a shorter blank of very high modulus and put micros on it. Probably a very high quality 6 foot blank with micros stands a pretty good chance of being "balanced" with any reel.
I've always been a little too literal. This has been a really good discussion, though.
Just to add to the pedantry, you're describing the balance point. The fulcrum is the point where you actually hold the rod, so at the reel, assuming the reel is palmed. The position of the balance point, relative to the reel seat, is a way of describing how tip heavy the rod is, relative to the fulcrum.
MickD reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 5:53 AM, Tim Kelly said:
Just to add to the pedantry, you're describing the balance point. The fulcrum is the point where you actually hold the rod, so at the reel, assuming the reel is palmed. The position of the balance point, relative to the reel seat, is a way of describing how tip heavy the rod is, relative to the fulcrum.
Yes, you are right. I stand corrected. Too long out of engine school. And this makes it even less likely that one can have a balanced outfit if one doesn't palm the reel.
London, UK, right? You fish smalleys in the Oneida River in UK? I love London. I hope it's still as great a city as it was 22 years ago when I was last there.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/9/2017 at 11:54 PM, Lucky Craft Man said:I have to admit that I am a gear ***** and I love high end gear. I have quite a few NRX rods along with a dozen+ customs rods. With that being said, this Asquith is above what I even desire. I really have the feel of my NRX's dialed in and like that the Xpeditor service for the NRX rods are at $100 (vs. $250 for the Asquith). The cost of ownership of the Asquith just seems beyond the reasonable realm for me.
With that being said, I am always a sucker for a really good drop shot rod and will keep an open mind on that one. ?
After I buy one and talk about how awesome they are you won't be able to stop the bait monkey and he will seal the deal lol. Actually really looking forward to seeing it as in to see what components they used on it. I'm sure they will keep the blank the same color as the fly rod, what do u think? If so that's already going in the right direction for me. And now that they did away with the old GLX crankbait rods which I really like they only offer 3 I think in the E6X and then the older style ones. Do you think there gonna come out with a new line of crankbait rods soon if not at ICast?
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 7:01 AM, HookRz said:Great deals can be found on Loomis. Ogbuhda can testify to that. His Field and Stream had NRX going for $220 about a week ago. Bought one and an IMX I wanted for top water for $110. I like the NRX 843jwr (except for the recoils) but will sell it used to some tournament guy so I can say the IMX was free. I just don't feel I need that good of tackle to catch bass. I like my "good enough" Avid, IMX range rods. Interested in trying Dobyns but no one sells them around here. Love to follow and play the market though!
$220! Man I never come across stuff like that. I would of bought 10 of them lol. So Field & Stream have brick and mortar stores? Did you have many different models to choose from? Let me know when u want to sell the 843C.
ww2farmer reply :
On 2/10/2017 at 4:39 AM, fishindad said:To this day I believe there are no better rods made than the original Fuji titanium SiC, Wiebe handle GLX MBR842, 843, and 844 rods. Next closest would be the original (made in the USA!) Fuji SiC Fenwick Techna AV rods. No bling, you could feel a frog's hair twitch. But more power to anyone wanting to drop NRX coin on bass rods. You can tell I'm old school, lol.
I'm with you............My tournament partner uses his old GLX's mixed with a few newer ones, when I "borrow" one of his rods I always reach for the old ones. He has lost a few to breakage and they get replaced with newer GLX's and I just don't care for them.
My first "expensive rod" was a USA made Fenwick Techna AV, a 7' M spinning.........and I swear to god I could feel more on that rod with mono, then any other spinning rod I have ever owned and used with braid since. I broke that rod a long time ago, and what Fenwick replaced it with was sad compared to that old USA made Techna AV. I was so disapointed with it, I sold it, and have never bought another higher end Fenwick since it seemed you were getting HMG quality blanks (which are decent for the $$) in a gussied up package, for more $$.
Tim Kelly reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 6:03 AM, MickD said:Yes, you are right. I stand corrected. Too long out of engine school. And this makes it even less likely that one can have a balanced outfit if one doesn't palm the reel.
London, UK, right? You fish smalleys in the Oneida River in UK? I love London. I hope it's still as great a city as it was 22 years ago when I was last there.
Yes London UK. No smallies though unfortunately. I have to put my hands in my pocket and fly over the big pond to play with smallmouth fins! I'm very lucky to have some very generous friends who take me out when I come over, which has been every two years in recent times.
I fish the Thames here a lot, mostly for perch, but also pike and zander.
The manic expression is what happens when you try to use a camera's smile detector to take the picture for you when you are on your own. LOL
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 4:53 PM, Tim Kelly said:
Yes London UK. No smallies though unfortunately. I have to put my hands in my pocket and fly over the big pond to play with smallmouth fins! I'm very lucky to have some very generous friends who take me out when I come over, which has been every two years in recent times.
I fish the Thames here a lot, mostly for perch, but also pike and zander.
The manic expression is what happens when you try to use a camera's smile detector to take the picture for you when you are on your own. LOL
I'm pretty sure that's the biggest perch I've ever seen, wow lol! Do u know what the record for perch is over there? Oh yea, Up the Blades!
Tim Kelly reply :
I think the UK record is a bit over 6lb. That one was a high four. My biggest was 5lb 4oz, the exact same weight as my biggest smallmouth!
Blades?
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 5:20 PM, Tim Kelly said:I think the UK record is a bit over 6lb. That one was a high four. My biggest was 5lb 4oz, the exact same weight as my biggest smallmouth!
Blades?
Had a friend from over there, and know I can't think of where he's from. But it's one of the football teams over there. Just thought u might of found it funny hearing someone from the states say that. And the sz of those perch are insane. Do people eat them over there or more so just for sport?
Tim Kelly reply :
Just for sport. We really don't eat what we catch traditionally. other than trout and salmon, but even that is rarer now. We have had a bit of an issue with the recent migration from eastern european countries, where they are used to eating what they catch. It has caused tensions.
I follow rugby and cricket, not really football at all. Sorry not to get the reference.
EllisJuan reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 4:53 PM, Tim Kelly said:
Yes London UK. No smallies though unfortunately. I have to put my hands in my pocket and fly over the big pond to play with smallmouth fins! I'm very lucky to have some very generous friends who take me out when I come over, which has been every two years in recent times.
I fish the Thames here a lot, mostly for perch, but also pike and zander.
The manic expression is what happens when you try to use a camera's smile detector to take the picture for you when you are on your own. LOL
Nice. I am going over there in late April and thought about fishing...
Tim Kelly reply :
I would love to offer you a trip out. April though is the trickiest month. It's the closed season on the rivers, so only really canals and some lakes available, and it's spawning time where the fish become very difficult to catch. If you come over at any time other than the March-June closed season I'd love to take you out.
Smokinal reply :
I didn't read all the responses but I catch as many fish, if not more, on my $40 rods as my buddy does on $300 rods. No way I'm spending more than $70-$80 on a rod; ever.
EllisJuan reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 4:06 AM, Tim Kelly said:I would love to offer you a trip out. April though is the trickiest month. It's the closed season on the rivers, so only really canals and some lakes available, and it's spawning time where the fish become very difficult to catch. If you come over at any time other than the March-June closed season I'd love to take you out.
Thanks man. I really appreciate that. I am only going to be in London for 3 days then on to Paris, then Venice, hop on a cruise ship in Rome, etc. It is my first trip over to Europe, and we are going to be all over the place for 18 days. I doubt fishing is going to fit in anywhere, but it would be cool to catch something over there to check another continent off my list.
Tim Kelly reply :
Hope you have a fantastic trip. If you ever feel the need to come back at a better time of year, drop me a line.
EllisJuan reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 6:37 AM, Tim Kelly said:Hope you have a fantastic trip. If you ever feel the need to come back at a better time of year, drop me a line.
Will do. Thanks again for the generous offer.
fishindad reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 3:21 PM, ww2farmer said:I'm with you............My tournament partner uses his old GLX's mixed with a few newer ones, when I "borrow" one of his rods I always reach for the old ones. He has lost a few to breakage and they get replaced with newer GLX's and I just don't care for them.
My first "expensive rod" was a USA made Fenwick Techna AV, a 7' M spinning.........and I swear to god I could feel more on that rod with mono, then any other spinning rod I have ever owned and used with braid since. I broke that rod a long time ago, and what Fenwick replaced it with was sad compared to that old USA made Techna AV. I was so disapointed with it, I sold it, and have never bought another higher end Fenwick since it seemed you were getting HMG quality blanks (which are decent for the $$) in a gussied up package, for more $$.
Exactly! I don't know what it was about those original Technas. They were incredibly sensitive and strong. And I agree, once they made the rods overseas, they were never the same. I haven't bought another Fenwick either though they still make very nice rods.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 6:23 AM, Smokinal said:I didn't read all the responses but I catch as many fish, if not more, on my $40 rods as my buddy does on $300 rods. No way I'm spending more than $70-$80 on a rod; ever.
TxHawgs reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 9:59 AM, iabass8 said:
I didn't read all the responses but I catch as many fish, if not more, on my $40 rods as my buddy does on $300 rods. No way I'm spending more than $70-$80 on a rod; ever. Thanks for lettin us know lol. Sorry man just messin w ya, I couldn't resist.
Smokinal reply :
I guess we can't give opinions on forums anymore; my bad
IndianaFinesse reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 3:29 AM, Smokinal said:I guess we can't give opinions on forums anymore; my bad
He's just joking with you about the probability that your rod buying resolution will last. Many people have claimed they will never buy a 100+ dollar rod, before breaking down and trying one. And once you've used one high end rod, there's no going back!
Smokinal reply :
Oh it's all good. I'm having fun with it. I was buzzed on
when I posted that and can see how it may have come across as a little cocky.
It takes a lot more than a comment from some random on a forum to rustle my jimmies.
And you're right; I probably would like a light, sensitive rod if I ever tried one.
Carry on bros; all good.
bigfruits reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 6:23 AM, Smokinal said:I didn't read all the responses but I catch as many fish, if not more, on my $40 rods as my buddy does on $300 rods. No way I'm spending more than $70-$80 on a rod; ever.
wow, that's crazy. he really needs to practice.
Oklahoma Mike reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 10:07 PM, bigfruits said:
wow, that's crazy. he really needs to practice.
Both hilarious and brilliant!
HookRz reply :
On 2/11/2017 at 11:19 AM, TxHawgs said:$220! Man I never come across stuff like that. I would of bought 10 of them lol. So Field & Stream have brick and mortar stores? Did you have many different models to choose from? Let me know when u want to sell the 843C.
Not a huge selection. They had them marked down to $440 since the end of summer, and rand a half price sale the last week of January. They still problem made money on them. Never pay full price for GLoomis.
One drop shot model still failed to sell. It's an Erie thing. We grow up on the water. When you learned to feel an 8" perch inhale a minnow in 65' of water with your fiberglass rod and 10# mono at age 8 $550 rods are a hard sell.
It all reminds me of "softball guy". If you didn't learn to hit as a youngster that space age composite bat might help. If you did, you just need a decent bat and a good pitch to hit. IMHO, of course.
If I can't sell the NRX, an 893JWR actually, to Joe Club guy I might put it on the board. Frankly I've taken a liking to it playing in the yard, but I'm a big believer in using the same rods till muscle memory makes the rod an extension of your arm. I can't see what it would replace. My 7'1" old model legend elite I got for cheap, which it harder to do with St. croix, is still going strong and I don't even have to think when pitching it. Just happens.
kcdinkerz reply :
Didn't shimano release rods with the spiral x or whatever blanks already?
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