TD-Z's $199 shipped @ Cabelas 2024

The_Natural reply :

I'm going to let the Cat out of the bag now...I've got my 4 on order . Daiwa must have had a bunch of TD-Z's left over, and since Daiwa makes most of Cabelas house branded reels, I suppose that is why they chose Cabelas to liquidate a bunch of TD-Z's for them. When you order a reel, it says the shipping is prepaid from Japan. This is easily the best deal on a new reel I have ever seen. I just won a TD-Z on Ebay for $290, which I thought was a good deal in itself. Get one while they are still here...I imagine somebody will buy them out in the next day or so and just Ebay them.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0002945115658a&navCount=3&podId=0002945&parentId=cat20331&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20166-cat20331&catalogCode=7IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20331&hasJS=true

burleytog reply :

Must...be...strong!!!!

Jimzee reply :

Just ordered one. I had a gift card for $65.00 left over from Christmas and the Cabela's bucks for $20.00 I was able to get it for $114.00. Now that is a deal! This is a $350.00 reel. These things are selling on Ebay right now used with scratches for $200 - $250. Get em while you can people!!

Jimzee reply :

By the way.............Thank You Natural, I would have never known if you hadn't posted this.

Blaine,

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

I really wish I had some spare cash. I am not even a Daiwa user, but for that price I would "try" one out. ;D ;D

Jimzee reply :

I am strictly Daiwa on baitcasters and strictly Shimano on spinning reels. Haven't found a spinning reel yet I like more than the Stella. I know, I'm weird :

Redlinerobert reply :

Thanks! I have two coming.

burleytog reply :

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Thanks! I have two coming.

Dude, you have a serious sickness.

Fishing Doug reply :

ok, need some info..what is the difference between the 103 and 105? I have 2 100's and if I remember correctly, the difference is primarily gear ratio (and maybe line cap). can someone confirm the specs?

bighed reply :

I got two of the 105h's through the sponsor link above. Thanks for the heads up!

huskertko reply :

Well, this definitely throws a wrench in to my plans. I had been trying to decide if I should get a Shimano Chronarch or a Daiwa Zillion, and I am trying to avoid buying from Cabelas for a while since the last three reels I purchased there, were all returned with defects, but this may be a deal that I can't pass up.

I think I will see if BPS will do a price match since it is a published price on the internet.

The_Natural reply :

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Well, this definitely throws a wrench in to my plans. I had been trying to decide if I should get a Shimano Chronarch or a Daiwa Zillion, and I am trying to avoid buying from Cabelas for a while since the last three reels I purchased there, were all returned with defects, but this may be a deal that I can't pass up.
I think I will see if BPS will do a price match since it is a published price on the internet.

BPS no longer has any TD-Z's...they were all pulled about 3 months ago. Cabelas didn't have any either until 2 days ago.

huskertko reply :

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Well, this definitely throws a wrench in to my plans. I had been trying to decide if I should get a Shimano Chronarch or a Daiwa Zillion, and I am trying to avoid buying from Cabelas for a while since the last three reels I purchased there, were all returned with defects, but this may be a deal that I can't pass up.
I think I will see if BPS will do a price match since it is a published price on the internet.

BPS no longer has any TD-Z's...they were all pulled about 3 months ago. Cabelas didn't have any either until 2 days ago.

Oh well, it was worth a shot.

Other than weight, what are the major differences between the TD-Z and the Zillion?

The_Natural reply :

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ok, need some info..what is the difference between the 103 and 105? I have 2 100's and if I remember correctly, the difference is primarily gear ratio (and maybe line cap). can someone confirm the specs?
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The 103 holds more line; I believe it holds 120yds of 12lb line, whereas the 105 holds 100yds of 10lb. I ordered 103's for my C-rig and Pitchin'.

Hot n Tot reply :

Thanks for the heads up, I have a Z105H coming!!

The_Natural reply :

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Well, this definitely throws a wrench in to my plans. I had been trying to decide if I should get a Shimano Chronarch or a Daiwa Zillion, and I am trying to avoid buying from Cabelas for a while since the last three reels I purchased there, were all returned with defects, but this may be a deal that I can't pass up.
I think I will see if BPS will do a price match since it is a published price on the internet.

BPS no longer has any TD-Z's...they were all pulled about 3 months ago. Cabelas didn't have any either until 2 days ago.

Oh well, it was worth a shot.

Other than weight, what are the major differences between the TD-Z and the Zillion?

The TD-Z and Zillion share identical frame designs, but the TD-Z's frame is magnesium versus the Zillions aluminum frame. The TD-Z's aluminum/ceramic hybrid spool is also lighter than the Zillion's spool. The Zillion does have the Magforce Z backlash control versus the TD-Z's Magforce V. The TD-Z also has an 8 disc carbon drag, but has rumored to chatter a bit when wet (I haven't noticec this at all). Regardless; I was disappointed that they discontinued the TD-Z, and had been shopping for a brand new one to hit Ebay for under $300. I finally found one on Monday...two days before I disconvered Cabelas got a shipment in at $199.

Fishing Doug reply :

The Natural,

This is all your fault.....now I have 3 105's on the way!!! ;D

I shall watch this board with dedication on a daily basis in search of a thread that has a link to sweet deals on Loomis, St. Croix, Kistler, or just about anything to match these to.

The_Natural reply :

My reels are going to be sent off for a custom paint job before I even take them out of the box. I'm having 2 painted red, 2 painted yellow, and two painted metallic black; they will look identical to the TD-Z custom of 2004. I'm not trying to fool anyone; I just like a more colorful reel .

Here are the colors I have chosen...

Raul reply :

Watch out guyz, you can go broke "saving" :

Me ? oh well, I only purchased 4 of them.

.ghoti. reply :

Dang, Natural. Who's your sponsor; the bait monkey? I really did not need to see that. Got two on order now, thanks to you. I'm having them shipped to my office. I don't need two more reels to show up at home.

Cheers,

Hot n Tot reply :

I'm having mine shipped to my office as well , and I just bought a SOL this week!!

Redsyn reply :

d**n you > I was looking for deals on the shimano speedmaster 201 for bass/light surf fishing.

Now I am expecting 2 TD-Z105HL soon. I've always wanted a TD-Z because sooo many members say it is one of the best. Before it was over $300. for one so it was too expensive to me but now I spend 400 on two. :-? And no I'm not going to use my TD-Z for surf fishing.

guest reply :

Anybody have a spare doghouse? I am gonna need one when my wife finds out I bought Chronarch MG w/ G-Loomis rod and a TD-Z in the same week! Do you think the mortgage company will understand?

lubina reply :

Thanks a lot!!!!

Redlinerobert reply :

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My reels are going to be sent off for a custom paint job before I even take them out of the box. I'm having 2 painted red, 2 painted yellow, and two painted metallic black; they will look identical to the TD-Z custom of 2004. I'm not trying to fool anyone; I just like a more colorful reel .
Here are the colors I have chosen...

Nice! Who does the paiting for you? Can they anodize as well?

The_Natural reply :

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My reels are going to be sent off for a custom paint job before I even take them out of the box. I'm having 2 painted red, 2 painted yellow, and two painted metallic black; they will look identical to the TD-Z custom of 2004. I'm not trying to fool anyone; I just like a more colorful reel .
Here are the colors I have chosen...

Nice! Who does the paiting for you? Can they anodize as well?

The guy I'm thinking of paints a lot of RC car bodies, and he is out of Tulsa, OK. If you want anodizing, I would just search google. I'm not sure how much it will cost me, but I imagine $20 or so a reel, considering they will be only one color each...no fancy airbrush work.

The_Natural reply :

Hehe...over 20 TD-Z's were ordered just from this thread ;D 8-)

Hot n Tot reply :

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Hehe...over 20 TD-Z's were ordered just from this thread ;D 8-)

And I just decided to order a 2nd one! I don't think my wife will understand why I need two of these. :-X

RiskKid. reply :

What happened to me????? I read this thread and all of a sudden I have a new reel on the way!

Raul reply :

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What happened to me????? I read this thread and all of a sudden I have a new reel on the way!

Riskkid reads thread -----> Riskkid finds Monkey. ;D

RiskKid. reply :

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What happened to me????? I read this thread and all of a sudden I have a new reel on the way!

Riskkid reads thread -----> Riskkid finds Monkey. ;D

You are right Raul.......and he has two six shooters smokin today!!!!

The_Natural reply :

I'm excited now, not only about the reels I have coming in, but for everyone else as well. How many of you haven't fished with a TD-Z before? Will this be your nicest reel? I own modified Alphas, Scorpions, Mg50's, Pixies, Zillions, and two TD-Z's (now 6 I guess ). The only reels I have that compare to the TD-Z's are my Pixies. I think some of you will be blown away by this reels performance. We will have to start another thread when everyone has theirs.

Bushwacker reply :

I ordered one too. I am a little excited to say the least, the most expensive reel I have ever bought before this is a Pflueger President, so I am thinking I will be a little impressed by the TD-Z

The_Natural reply :

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I ordered one too. I am a little excited to say the least, the most expensive reel I have ever bought before this is a Pflueger President, so I am thinking I will be a little impressed by the TD-Z

Wow...yeah, those reels aren't even in the same league. Welcome to the majors!

Raul reply :

I think not many have fished with a TDZ, let 's face it, 350 bones for a reel is a good ammount of dough for the everyday Joe, most people have not even broke in the 200 bones mark, but at 200 no reel available in the 200-260 marc today even comes close to a TDZ. If you want something better you are not going to find it at that price ever.

If only Pixies had a stronger stock drag :-/ ( sigh ) but upgrading the washers on a Pixy is possible.

The mean red pastel mattè fishing machine. ;D

c_diesel2 reply :

What are the gear ratio on these reels??? It dosent say on cabela.com?????

Lucky Craft Man reply :

This is what I found on the gear ratio of these reels

TD-Z105H Gear Ratio 6.3:1

TD-Z103P Gear Ratio 5.1:1

TD-Z105HL Gear Ratio 6.3:1

This is from Daiwa's web site, so I assume this is correct.

c_diesel2 reply :

I thought shipping was free...I had to pay 12.95 >.....I bought 4 of them also ....good looking out on the deal ;D

Fishing Doug reply :

I have 2 TD-Z 100M's already and I love them. I actually got lucky and picked them up for $199 each at my local BPS when they were depleting the stock last fall. I originally bought Citica's and those went right to the shelf..and then right to EBAY. Don't get me wrong, the Citica's are reels, but in an entirely different ballpark than the TD-Z's. The light weight has spoiled me. When I pick up my fishing partner's Curado 200, it feels like a paperweight....

Just wish they would have come out with a 7.0 to 1 ratio..........

Love the TD-Z's.

Fishing Doug reply :

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I thought shipping was free...I had to pay 12.95 >.....I bought 4 of them also ....good looking out on the deal ;D

interesting...I bought 3 and there was no shipping on mine......total was $599.85.....

Pond Hopper reply :

I have been fighting the temptation all day, I just recently ordered a new Revo S and Revo SX and dont know that I need another. Although its gonna be tough to resist that deal.

The_Natural reply :

Hmmm...I didn't get charged shipping. My order total both times was $399.98. Did you choose a shipping method other than ground? Other than that...I'm not sure why :-/

burleytog reply :

NAH NAH NAH NAH NOT GONNA LISTEN!!!

lubina reply :

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Hmmm...I didn't get charged shipping. My order total both times was $399.98. Did you choose a shipping method other than ground? Other than that...I'm not sure why :-/

Me either and I was wondering the same. May be free shipping as part of the promotion?

The Dude reply :

I picked up a couple of them.

I had to pay shipping on the TDZ103P, but not on the 105H. Doesn't make sense, but oh well, still a great price on a great reel!

anthony6377 reply :

Shipping is showing up for me when I'm trying to order the 103 as well. All well, it's not going to stop me from taking advantage of this deal. I would purchase a couple more, but I'm a poor college student who is also saving up for a new car.

<Edit> I think the reason there is a shipping cost on the 103 and not on the 105 is because the 105s are being shipped directly from Japan whereas the 103s are in stock and being shipped from warehouses in the US.

RockvilleMDAngler reply :

Having just bought a new Chronarch (which is supposed to arrive tomorrow) I don't think I can justify this but I REALLY want to pull the trigger.... MUST BE STRONG!!!!! :-/

hi_steel_basser reply :

I pulled the trigger. Now I need a good c-rig or swimbait rod to put it on. The bait monkey is devious.

burleytog reply :

My will power gave out and I went to Cabelas to order one. Get there and they're sold out of the 105H. :'(

Somewhat of a blessing and a curse.

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

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My will power gave out and I went to Cabelas to order one. Get there and they're sold out of the 105H. :'(
Somewhat of a blessing and a curse.

Crap!!! Payday is tomorrow. I was gonna pull the trigger.

burleytog reply :

The left hand retrieve model is still available.

FishTank reply :

I have not fished or seen a TD-Z. How does it compare to other reels on the market?

guest reply :

I hate to rain on the parade, but these do not appear to be the same TD-Z's Daiwa was selling to the US market. Don't get me wrong, this is no doubt a quality reel. Take it from someone with 4 TD-z's, you can't go wrong.

But look at the line capacity. 100 yards of 10lb test?

That's a bit skimpy.

My 103H, and 103 ML is rated at 120 yards for 12 lb test, 100 yds. for 14#

My 100M is rated at 120 yds. for 14#, and 100 yds. for 16#.

I can't help but wonder if there are other subtle differences.

I'll bet this was a reel designed and merchandised for the asian market.

The_Natural reply :

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I hate to rain on the parade, but these do not appear to be the same TD-Z's Daiwa was selling to the US market. Don't get me wrong, this is no doubt a quality reel. Take it from someone with 4 TD-z's, you can't go wrong.
But look at the line capacity. 100 yards of 10lb test?

That's a bit skimpy.

My 103H, and 103 ML is rated at 120 yards for 12 lb test, 100 yds. for 14#

My 100M is rated at 120 yds. for 14#, and 100 yds. for 16#.

I can't help but wonder if there are other subtle differences.

I'll bet this was a reel designed and merchandised for the asian market.

Actually, the 103, 105, and 100M were all available in the US. The 100M came out after the 103 and 105, and was primarily made as a pitching reel capable of holding a good amount of heavy line. It was only available in the US, hence the 'US Trail' marking on the top of the reel. The 100M has the original Magforce anti-backlash system versus the magforce V that comes on the 103 and 105. All TD-Z's roll off the same assembly line in Japan, with the 100M being the only model that was exclusively in the US. Bass Pro actually quite carrying the 100M almost a year before Daiwa discontinued TD-Z, but continued to carry the 103 and 105. I went to Cabelas and noticed that the 105 is already sold out...I'm sure due in great part to this forum ;D

The_Natural reply :

The 103 is still available you guys! There is barely any difference!

Redlinerobert reply :

So last night I showed this page to my girlfriend. She ordered me another reel! Bless her heart....

Of course she had no idea I had already ordered two of them.... ;D

Hot n Tot reply :

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I hate to rain on the parade, but these do not appear to be the same TD-Z's Daiwa was selling to the US market. Don't get me wrong, this is no doubt a quality reel. Take it from someone with 4 TD-z's, you can't go wrong.
But look at the line capacity. 100 yards of 10lb test?

That's a bit skimpy.

My 103H, and 103 ML is rated at 120 yards for 12 lb test, 100 yds. for 14#

My 100M is rated at 120 yds. for 14#, and 100 yds. for 16#.

I can't help but wonder if there are other subtle differences.

I'll bet this was a reel designed and merchandised for the asian market.

This is the exact same model number (TD-Z105H) that Tacke Tour reviewed a few years back, and they reported it as having the same line capacity..100 yds of 10#. It seems like not much, but then how far does one cast? I wouldn't use these reels for trolling anyway. Well, I hope they work out because I ordered two of them!

Bushwacker reply :

Looks like there all sold out now. I have two 105's on the way. I am a little excited!

armesjr reply :

Looks like they sold out, the link no longer works.

Redlinerobert reply :

They are GONE. I'll bet 99% of them went to BassResource members. ;D

Raul reply :

The difference between the 100M "US Tail" and the 103H&P is the line capacity ( deeper spool for heavier lines ) and the handle length ( 80 mm vs 90 mm ). The 105 is the "finesse" version, shallower spool ( wich in practical terms means less force needed to initiate the rotation ) so less line capacity.

Captain Chaos II reply :

Snooze, I lose.

If anyone went overboard with their order and needs to get rid of one at cost, pm me please. I'd really like one. Paypal is best+easiest but could probably scrounge up the dinero.

Thanx

Fishing Doug reply :

Are the spools interchangeable? I have the 105's on the way and don't anticipate line cap being an issue..but you never know. just wondering if I have alternatives for aftermarket spools.

The_Natural reply :

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Are the spools interchangeable? I have the 105's on the way and don't anticipate line cap being an issue..but you never know. just wondering if I have alternatives for aftermarket spools.
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The spools are interchangeable. Zpi also makes magnesium aftermarket spools for the TD-Z, and come in a deep and shallow model, and your choice of Legend Blue or Racing Red. You can't buy a better spool than the ZPI...

shallow...

deep...

Raul reply :

Line capacity ........ hmmmmm, line capacity has more to do with how much you feel comfortable.

For example, my CU200 can hold a lot of line ( 150 yds ) but after some years I observed a detail, from out of 150 yards that the reel can hold actually I beat the heck out to less than 100 yards, if I ever reach to the point where I exceed those 100 yards the remaining 50 yards in the reel coil up, cast and perform so bad that they are in practical terms good for the trash bin. So I really don 't need 150 yards if I 'm going to trash 50 yards, money is not an issue performance is, I can fish with 100 yards and get better performance ( what I care about ).

On the other hand,

1.- More line ---> the spool weights more, therefore in order to initiate the rotation of the spool you need more force or a heavier weight.

2.- When you look at the spool in your mind the only thing that raises a flag is the capacity, but you haven 't studied the spool, what you don 't take in consideration in your mind is what makes the spool different and how this affects the performance and the easiness of use. Shallower spools have larger inner circumference than deeper spools, this means that your line will coil on a larger diameter centre, the coils will be looser, looser coils mean more flatness when out of the reel this translates into better performance of the line, specially for certain application like worming where line flatness is important.

3.- Shallower spools weight less than deeper spools, the more weight you reduce the easier it will rotate.

I 'd rather fish with 80 yards of line that are not going to coil up badly than fishing with 100 yards of slinky. Line capacity is important when you fish under circumstances that require having a lot of line, but for regular bass fishing you don 't need a reel that can hold a lot of line, you are not fishing for marlin, tuna, stripers or muskies that can grow very large and that can strip your reel.

Fishing Doug reply :

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Line capacity ........ hmmmmm, line capacity has more to do with how much you feel comfortable.
For example, my CU200 can hold a lot of line ( 150 yds ) but after some years I observed a detail, from out of 150 yards that the reel can hold actually I beat the heck out to less than 100 yards, if I ever reach to the point where I exceed those 100 yards the remaining 50 yards in the reel coil up, cast and perform so bad that they are in practical terms good for the trash bin. So I really don 't need 150 yards if I 'm going to trash 50 yards, money is not an issue performance is, I can fish with 100 yards and get better performance ( what I care about ).

On the other hand,

1.- More line ---> the spool weights more, therefore in order to initiate the rotation of the spool you need more force or a heavier weight.

2.- When you look at the spool in your mind the only thing that raises a flag is the capacity, but you haven 't studied the spool, what you don 't take in consideration in your mind is what makes the spool different and how this affects the performance and the easiness of use. Shallower spools have larger inner circumference than deeper spools, this means that your line will coil on a larger diameter centre, the coils will be looser, looser coils mean more flatness when out of the reel this translates into better performance of the line, specially for certain application like worming where line flatness is important.

3.- Shallower spools weight less than deeper spools, the more weight you reduce the easier it will rotate.

I 'd rather fish with 80 yards of line that are not going to coil up badly than fishing with 100 yards of slinky. Line capacity is important when you fish under circumstances that require having a lot of line, but for regular bass fishing you don 't need a reel that can hold a lot of line, you are not fishing for marlin, tuna, stripers or muskies that can grow very large and that can strip your reel.

Raul,

All good information...

I fish a lot of smaller lakes where our 'hawgs' are 6lbers so I don't need a lot of super heavy line..the next world record is not likely to end up on the end of my line. Also, I fish a lot of lighter baits-1/4 and 3/8 traps/cranks from time to time and am hoping the shallow spool will be just the ticket for these....if not, it appears to be a quick fix with an aftermarket spool.

The_Natural reply :

Raul is exactly right, and he posted something that I always preach, yet don't ever hear others mention. I'm talking about line capacity and the effect it has on spool weight. It doesn't matter how light in weight the spool is...if it holds 140yds of 12lb line, it will weigh a ton, and a small bait will not produce the necessary inertia or torque needed to make an effective cast. I think line capacity is overrated; I prefer shallow spools for most of my casting outfits. The only rigs I use deeper spools on are my C-rig, flippin' and spinnerbait rods. I have used my Pixies for almost every technique, and have never casted out the entire spool.

Redlinerobert reply :

I'm with you here Natural. It's not like bass take blisering runs anyways. The only reels I have deep spools on are my striper rigs.

Bushwacker reply :

Being a guy with more of a muskie background than bass I will even say that for everything but trolling, you only need 100 yards max for even the biggest and baddest 'skies. With the quality of drag and the quality of line today, those big, high capacity spools are unnessasary. Even the hardcore muskie guides here in MN are going with the 250 size reels instead of the big and heavy 300 and 400 sizes. So 100 yds of 10lb test should be more than enough for bass. I am a superline freak and fish it on 75% of my reel(a lot of toothy fish around my area) and I always use mono backing and about 75 yds of braid. I have never had the mono touch the water in doing this technique.

I never thought of the weight of line being an issue, but that makes a lot of sense. That is really something to consider in matching a reel to a technique. This might be my favorite thread ever. Put me into the "Majors" in my baitcasters and teaching things about spool capacity and line weight!!

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