Spinning reels do not fit on my new Dobyns Fury rods... 2024
Glaucus reply :
I took a chance on Dobyns for starting a new fleet of rods for my kayaking needs, and so far I've had nothing but questions or problems.
I ordered 5 of them and 1 came with a bent eye and upon closer inspection cracked epoxy. I noticed another was bent at the top 1/3 of the rod. Some people say that bend is normal, but none of the other rods have that, and I've noticed in other brands some rods will also have that bend (like they were left to lean against something for too long and took that bend) while the vast majority of the same model do not.
And now I have another issue, and one that I've never seen before. On the 2 spinning rods, the screw lock doesn't not lock down all the way on either rod with the Presidents I put on them. There's a good 1/4 inch that doesn't screw down at all and leaves a gap over the blank itself. Is that normal for Dobyns? One rod I would call it a defect, but two rods I call it an issue (maybe?).
Dwight Hottle reply :
Time to change brands.
Glaucus reply :
Casting:
Showing green because it screws down all the way.
Spinning:
No green because this is as far as it goes.
This is junk and I can't believe people recommend them.
On 3/6/2019 at 7:23 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Time to change brands.
You would think a company and a series of rods so highly recommended wouldn't be so trash.
J Francho reply :
I would take it up with Dobyns directly. Call them.
Fishin' Fool reply :
Many on this website have mentioned Gary Dobyns being a good guy as suggested call them and talk out what you received and see what they can do for you. I doubt you will be treated unfairly.
Derek1 reply :
I don’t think I’ve ever heard any real negativity towards them. Talk to them and give them a chance to make it right if it’s a problem with the rods before you get to upset. Sometimes things happen.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 7:45 AM, Derek1 said:I don’t think I’ve ever heard any real negativity towards them. Talk to them and give them a chance to make it right if it’s a problem with the rods before you get to upset. Sometimes things happen.
I contacted them via email. I'll probably have to wait until tomorrow for an answer at this point.
But naturally I'm upset that 4/5 rods have issues.
Columbia Craw reply :
Call the shop and ask to speak to Gary. Why the reel won't lock down is beyond me. The 4th image is a 35 series President on a Fury 702. The others speak for themselves. I have four buddies all fishing Fury spinning rods with no issues. I'm sorry about the bad first taste Glaucus.
Derek1 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 8:00 AM, Glaucus said:I contacted them via email. I'll probably have to wait until tomorrow for an answer at this point.
But naturally I'm upset that 4/5 rods have issues.
Yeah, I can understand that.
Jonny15678 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 7:19 AM, Glaucus said:I took a chance on Dobyns for starting a new fleet of rods for my kayaking needs, and so far I've had nothing but questions or problems.
I ordered 5 of them and 1 came with a bent eye and upon closer inspection cracked epoxy. I noticed another was bent at the top 1/3 of the rod. Some people say that bend is normal, but none of the other rods have that, and I've noticed in other brands some rods will also have that bend (like they were left to lean against something for too long and took that bend) while the vast majority of the same model do not.
And now I have another issue, and one that I've never seen before. On the 2 spinning rods, the screw lock doesn't not lock down all the way on either rod with the Presidents I put on them. There's a good 1/4 inch that doesn't screw down at all and leaves a gap over the blank itself. Is that normal for Dobyns? One rod I would call it a defect, but two rods I call it an issue (maybe?).
I just bought a dobyns rod as well but I got a casting one, I must admit the fit is a bit weird. It looks like it should screw down further on mine but I guess this is just how it is.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 8:15 AM, Jonny15678 said:I just bought a dobyns rod as well but I got a casting one, I must admit the fit is a bit weird. It looks like it should screw down further on mine but I guess this is just how it is.
Definitely an issue with the build then. I have the issue, you have the issue, but Columbia Craws are fine if you look at his pics. Quality control has got to be lacking recently. Strange that we both just got our rods with the same issues.
Jonny15678 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 8:18 AM, Glaucus said:Definitely an issue with the build then. I have the issue, you have the issue, but Columbia Craws are fine if you look at his pics. Quality control has got to be lacking recently. Strange that we both just got our rods with the same issues.
It's terrible considering the price tag for these rods.
Derek1 reply :
I just picked up one of their casting rods about a month ago and mine suggested right up perfectly.
Snugged right up
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 8:41 AM, Derek1 said:I just picked up one of their casting rods about a month ago and mine suggested right up perfectly.
Snugged right up
Geeze, not even my casting ones come close to screwing down that far. If you look at my pic it just barely passes for being screwed down all the way. All of them are like that.
Too much discrepancy going on here. Not a good look.
Derek1 reply :
Are your reels loose? If there held in place tightly isn’t that fine? I’m certainly no expert on how there supposed to fish.
Supposed to fit. Damm auto correct
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 8:52 AM, Derek1 said:Are your reels loose? If there held in place tightly isn’t that fine? I’m certainly no expert on how there supposed to fish.
No, they're not. I probably have them on too tight right now because of trying to figure this out.
The casting ones do just barely pass, better than Jonnys up there, and that's fine. The spinning ones are terrible especially considering how a spinning rod is held. That "sharp" plastic lip because they won't lock down digs into the fingers quickly.
Big-Bass reply :
This was a common issue with many of the Sierra rods. Don't know why since its the same Fuji they use on all their rods.
greentrout reply :
give 'em a call ... they will take care of you ...
good fishing ...
Derek1 reply :
I don’t know enough to comment on the screw lock, but getting a whole new fleet of rods is certainly something to be proud and excited about. I hope it works out for you.
dam0007 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 7:29 AM, Glaucus said:Casting:
Showing green because it screws down all the way.
Spinning:
No green because this is as far as it goes.
This is junk and I can't believe people recommend them.
You would think a company and a series of rods so highly recommended wouldn't be so trash.
Try switching the reels around. And see if same thing happens on the other rod. Some reels I’ve seen in the past the foot is oversized from model to model in the same brand.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 9:50 AM, dam0007 said:Try switching the reels around. And see if same thing happens on the other rod. Some reels I’ve seen in the past the foot is oversized from model to model in the same brand.
Good idea. Give me 2 minutes.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 9:50 AM, dam0007 said:Try switching the reels around. And see if same thing happens on the other rod. Some reels I’ve seen in the past the foot is oversized from model to model in the same brand.
Well we can shut this thing down.
DOBYNS IS NOT AT FAULT, PFLUEGER IS AT FAULT.
I put casting reels on the spinning rods and they fit perfectly. I put the spinning reels on the casting rods and they had the same issue with not locking down all the way. The size 25 on the ML is the worst offender. The size 30 on the M is slightly better. I also swapped the 25 and the 30 and the results were the same on the different spinning rods with the 25 being slightly worse.
I APOLOGIZE TO DOBYNS
MickD reply :
Regarding the bends. A rod should not have a visible bend. Contact the mfr or dealer.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:07 AM, MickD said:Regarding the bends. A rod should not have a visible bend. Contact the mfr or dealer.
I was going to take the rod with the messed up guide in myself to get it fixed for 10 bucks. Now with the bend I'll just ship those back to TW for an exchange.
dam0007 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:07 AM, Glaucus said:Well we can shut this thing down.
DOBYNS IS NOT AT FAULT, PFLUEGER IS AT FAULT.
I put casting reels on the spinning rods and they fit perfectly. I put the spinning reels on the casting rods and they had the same issue with not locking down all the way. The size 25 on the ML is the worst offender. The size 30 on the M is slightly better. I also swapped the 25 and the 30 and the results were the same on the different spinning rods with the 25 being slightly worse.
I APOLOGIZE TO DOBYNS
Glad to hear we found the culprit!
If there’s anymore concerns I highly advise giving their shop a call in the am. They are great people to deal with!
Jonny15678 reply :
I did the same thing suggested and the reel fits perfect. Still strange how some rods won’t accept certain reels while others will.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:46 AM, Jonny15678 said:I did the same thing suggested and the reel fits perfect. Still strange how some rods won’t accept certain reels while others will.
I've never had it happen before until now. I've heard about it, never seen it. These Presidents are new. I got them at a going out of business sale at a store that doesn't see much traffic (hence going out of business). The packaging is older. Wonder if that's why? No idea why. I actually put the 25 (the worst offender here) on a Fenwick HMG that doesn't have a reel on it at the moment and it seemed to fit that fine (although the seat is different). I'll probably get another HMG for the size 30 and give those to my wife since they pair apparently pair just fine, and then get some Daiwas for these Dobyns spinning rods.
Jonny15678 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:56 AM, Glaucus said:I've never had it happen before until now. I've heard about it, never seen it. These Presidents are new. I got them at a going out of business sale at a store that doesn't see much traffic (hence going out of business). The packaging is older. Wonder if that's why? No idea why. I actually put the 25 (the worst offender here) on a Fenwick HMG that doesn't have a reel on it at the moment and it seemed to fit that fine (although the seat is different). I'll probably get another HMG for the size 30 and give those to my wife since they pair apparently pair just fine, and then get some Daiwas for these Dobyns spinning rods.
I had a Okuma stratus VI reel on the Dobyons. I think I’ll be getting a lews reel since my other one fits nicely on the dobyons.
dam0007 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 11:07 AM, Jonny15678 said:I had a Okuma stratus VI reel on the Dobyons. I think I’ll be getting a lews reel since my other one fits nicely on the dobyons.
Don’t quote me on which Lews model, I think it’s the Carbon Fire Fiber, idk, it was a Dicks exclusive made by Penn or something... any how that foot doesn’t fit on several style reel seats, the part of the foot the extends down towards the butt was like 3in long and the part that extends towards the tip was much shorter and smaller. So the bottom part doesn’t fit and the top part is too small and sits loose.
A guy in my club had bought like 4 of them and the only reel seat that they fit in was a PAC bay minima.
Very strange.
Daiwa Shimano and Abu I have never seen or heard of any issues with the spinning reels fitment...
good luck!
Jonny15678 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 11:54 AM, dam0007 said:Don’t quote me on which Lews model, I think it’s the Carbon Fire Fiber, idk, it was a Dicks exclusive made by Penn or something... any how that foot doesn’t fit on several style reel seats, the part of the foot the extends down towards the butt was like 3in long and the part that extends towards the tip was much shorter and smaller. So the bottom part doesn’t fit and the top part is too small and sits loose.
A guy in my club had bought like 4 of them and the only reel seat that they fit in was a PAC bay minima.
Very strange.
Daiwa Shimano and Abu I have never seen or heard of any issues with the spinning reels fitment...
good luck!
I was looking at the Lews speed spool LFS
dam0007 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 12:02 PM, Jonny15678 said:I was looking at the Lews speed spool LFS
I have no idea man. Try it out!
Heres a example what i meant about the different locking nut both of these are Sierras
Revival reply :
Glad you got it sorted out. All I use are Dobyns and love them. Enjoy your new combos!
TBAG reply :
All of my Dobyns Sierras, both casting and spinning work perfect with my Shimano reels. ????
je1946 reply :
I own 4 Dobyns rods 3 HPs and one Champion XP all are perfect and I fish them hard. You didn't state where you purchased the rods from but I'd be surprised if it were from Dobyns directly. You should ABSOLUTELY not accept any rod with issues. I promise you if you call Dobyns they will make it right, do not email them CALL them. I purchased a heavy rod from them for punching mats and never used it, a yr later I called Dobyns and told them I would like to exchange the rod for another. They told me to send the rod back to them and if it was in gd shape they would do the exchange. They did. CALL Gary and explain what happened and tell him your unhappy. I promise they'll make it right for you.
kschultz76 reply :
Sorry for your troubles, certainly call Dobyns. I recently got two Sierra spinning rods and had similar fitment issue with the locking nut. While some reels may be worse the next others I do think they just cut the threads too short on the reel seat to accommodate all sizes of spinning reel foot.
I can can get them right enough that it won’t be an issue, but would like it to fit better. If you’re worried about the screw loosening back it all the way off and put a wrap of Teflon tape around the threads then tighten it down.
BassWhole! reply :
I too have experienced unacceptable issues with all the Dobyn's Fury casting rods I purchased this past Christmas. You would think a company that purports to make a quality product and stand behind it would catch these obvious issues during even rudimentary quality control. I didn't notice these problems until I fished with the rods a few times, and since I liked the way they fished, now I'm stuck with these inferior rods I guess. The first problem I noticed is that the guides are not evenly spaced. I measured the distance between each one carefully and there aren't even two that are the same. It's like they just put them where ever. Maybe I could live with this as it only seems to affect rod action and sensitivity minimally, but on further inspection, the guides are not all the same size, and some only have one leg that connects to the rod. To make matters worse, the last guide on the end of the rod is different than all the rest, it's like they just ran out of blank so they just capped it. Why couldn't they just extend the blank another half inch or so and make them the same? I can't imagine that would be difficult or cost much more, and to make matters worse I thought the blank looked funny, but was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but finally I decided to measure, and sure enough, the blank isn't the same size everywhere, its bigger near the handle and skinnier near the top. Has anyone else also had these problems, and how did you solve them? Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair...
(I tried lurking, honest I did)
J Francho reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:43 PM, BassWhole! said:Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair...
I'll buy them from you, ten cents on the dollar. That way you can recoup the money a bit.
ResoKP reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:07 AM, MickD said:Regarding the bends. A rod should not have a visible bend. Contact the mfr or dealer.
Not trying to be a D but almost all rods do have a visible bend. If you ask any rod builder they will tell you almost all of the blanks (high-end, low-end doesn't matter) will have varying degrees of noticeable bend. Only a very very very few are arrow straight.
I'm sure if you look closely you will see slight bends on all of your rods. If not, have someone who has a trained eye take a look at them.
Rod manufactures try hiding it as much as possible building on the straightest axis, etc but really, a perfectly straight blank is almost next to impossible to produce.
Honestly the most stressful part of buying a new rod is because of this for me. If I cannot inspect & compare at least 3 of the same rods side by side in person, I usually don't buy it. I know it doesn't affect performance but it bothers me if the bends are "too" noticeable or in the left/right direction.
Glaucus reply :
Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.
However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.
PS I would never use tools to tighten my reels down lol
Subaqua Adinterim reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:43 PM, BassWhole! said:(I tried lurking, honest I did)
Too funny - great name change, as well as matching avatar pic - LOL
jbsoonerfan reply :
What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame.
Subaqua Adinterim reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:14 AM, jbsoonerfan said:What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame.
BWhole's response was in jest; not knocking the rod maker, although the length and detail of his response may have made that less than apparent initially.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:14 AM, jbsoonerfan said:What was wrong with their reply? Seems like they were basically saying that it was more than likely the size of the reel and not the rod (which you even admitted) that was to blame.
That some manufacturers don't fit the same as others. Valid point. However, Presidents fit other Fury rods perfectly fine as seen in this thread. If Pflueger was consistent in their reel feet, then it would be the rod, not the reel manufacturer. So I wouldn't be able to buy that considering I see that a standard President will fit just fine.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:26 AM, RichPenNY said:BWhole's response was in jest; not knocking the rod maker, although the length and detail of his response may have made that less than apparent initially.
I know, I should have quoetd Glaucus. He said he wasn't happy with their response.
On 3/6/2019 at 11:38 PM, Glaucus said:Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.
However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.
PS I would never use tools to tighten my reels down lol
On 3/7/2019 at 12:27 AM, Glaucus said:That some manufacturers don't fit the same as others. Valid point. However, Presidents fit other Fury rods perfectly fine as seen in this thread. If Pflueger was consistent in their reel feet, then it would be the rod, not the reel manufacturer. So I wouldn't be able to buy that considering I see that a standard President will fit just fine.
So why are you upset with their response if you admit that it is the reel and not the rod? Seems like you just want to be mad at Dobyns and are going to be no matter what.
J Francho reply :
Don't they use the standard Fuji reel seat? Seems like we'd be hearing quite a bit if it was that pervasive. Also, somewhere I recall Presidents not fitting all rods. I could be wrong.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:28 AM, jbsoonerfan said:I know, I should have quoetd Glaucus. He said he wasn't happy with their response.
So why are you upset with their response if you admit that it is the reel and not the rod? Seems like you just want to be mad at Dobyns and are going to be no matter what.
You're not understanding me and that's OK. I'm not mad at Dobyns any longer.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 11:38 PM, Glaucus said:Guys, we discovered Pflueger is at fault. The reel feet on the reels are different sizes from each other. I ordered 2 Legalis reels to replace them. Hopefully those have a better fit.
However had it been the rods, I don't accept this answer, but I guess that's why you guys said to call and not email. The reason I don't is because there's visual proof of Presidents fitting perfectly in this very thread.
But it wasn't the rods, so why would you not accept this answer? They were telling you that not all reels are the same.
MIbassyaker reply :
I'm confused. The reels are not loose, it is just that the nut doesn't tighten down as far as it should on the spinning reels than the casting reels, correct? Of course, a spinning reel is not a casting reel and not meant to be put on a casting rod and vice versa. Or do the spinning reels fit differently from each other?
A-Jay reply :
Perhaps place a few strips of precisely positioned quality black electrical tape on the reel seat foot.
Just enough to take up 'the space'.
Tighten snugly, however, I'd recommend you do not torque on it - you may strip the threads.
A-Jay
Jcj90 reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 10:43 PM, BassWhole! said:I too have experienced unacceptable issues with all the Dobyn's Fury casting rods I purchased this past Christmas. You would think a company that purports to make a quality product and stand behind it would catch these obvious issues during even rudimentary quality control. I didn't notice these problems until I fished with the rods a few times, and since I liked the way they fished, now I'm stuck with these inferior rods I guess. The first problem I noticed is that the guides are not evenly spaced. I measured the distance between each one carefully and there aren't even two that are the same. It's like they just put them where ever. Maybe I could live with this as it only seems to affect rod action and sensitivity minimally, but on further inspection, the guides are not all the same size, and some only have one leg that connects to the rod. To make matters worse, the last guide on the end of the rod is different than all the rest, it's like they just ran out of blank so they just capped it. Why couldn't they just extend the blank another half inch or so and make them the same? I can't imagine that would be difficult or cost much more, and to make matters worse I thought the blank looked funny, but was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but finally I decided to measure, and sure enough, the blank isn't the same size everywhere, its bigger near the handle and skinnier near the top. Has anyone else also had these problems, and how did you solve them? Please help me out, I don't know what else to do, this is so unfair...
(I tried lurking, honest I did)
1. Guides aren’t supposed to be spaced apart the same.
2. All guides aren’t supposed to the same size
3. generally double footed guides are closer the reel and single foot as you move further up the rod.
4. The blank is thicker towards the butt end and thinner towards the top.
Is is this your first time ever purchasing a fishing rod? They are all like that. theres literally nothing wrong with your rod
I own 6 Dobyns fury rods and have not had one single issue with them. As far as reel not fitting in the reel seat some reels have a larger foot and don’t sit in a certain reel seat the proper way. as long as the reel is snug you shouldn’t have any issues with the reel wobbling or coming loose
Junger reply :
I have a couple rods where the nut doesn't screw down perfectly flush where there's no gap between the blank and the nut. The feet on reels aren't standard, and when you have rod boots that probably aren't standard either, nothing is going to fit perfectly snug without trial and error.
OP should probably edit the topic and add a Mea Culpa line in the very first post. It seems like some incorrect manufacturer bashing until the bottom of the page.
On 3/7/2019 at 1:15 AM, Jcj90 said:1. Guides aren’t supposed to be spaced apart the same.
2. All guides aren’t supposed to the same size
3. generally double footed guides are closer the reel and single foot as you move further up the rod.
4. The blank is thicker towards the butt end and thinner towards the top.
Is is this your first time ever purchasing a fishing rod? They are all like that. theres literally nothing wrong with your rod
anywyas I own 6 Dobyns fury rods and have not had one single issue with them. As far as reel not fitting in the reel seat some reels have a larger foot and don’t sit in a certain reel seat the proper ways as long as the reel is snug you shouldn’t have any issues with the reel wobbling or coming loose
His post was 100% sarcastic. Look at his user name...
WRB reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 12:31 AM, J Francho said:Don't they use the standard Fuji reel seat? Seems like we'd be hearing quite a bit if it was that pervasive. Also, somewhere I recall Presidents not fitting all rods. I could be wrong.
Yes Dobyns only uses Fuji reel seats, the problem is the reel foot.
Tom
BaitFinesse reply :
Yep, not all reel feet are the same size. Some reels will leave a bigger gap in some reel seats that other reels. If this sort of thing bothers you then ask around the forums to see how others with the same reel/rod combo find the fitment before purchasing. Others aren't bothered by this ar all and are perplexed as to why anyone would care. Know your tastes and do your due diligence before purchasing.
NYWayfarer reply :
Yet another reason besides OCD not to put a Daiwa reel on a Shimano rod...
Combos are looking better and better.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 7:19 AM, Glaucus said:I noticed another was bent at the top 1/3 of the rod. Some people say that bend is normal, but none of the other rods have that
I love my Dobyns rods, but this is something I've noticed on my Fury's as well. Not a deal-breaker, but I expect better. I know some say this is normal, but I don't have this issue on any of my other brand rods. And my Sierra is fine too.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 4:48 AM, NorthernBasser said:I love my Dobyns rods, but this is something I've noticed on my Fury's as well. Not a deal-breaker, but I expect better. I know some say this is normal, but I don't have this issue on any of my other brand rods. And my Sierra is fine too.
If you look very, very closely almost every rod has the slightest imperfection when it comes to being straight. It's so slight you don't even notice. That's what's normal.
What's not normal is when the bend is strong and is noticeable by mistake because it's just so obviously not straight. And that's how that one Fury is. My wife actually noticed first. She says, hey did you see that one is bent? And she doesn't inspect gear like a typical OCD fisherman lol. However I sent it and the broken guide rod back for exchanges.
Also my Legalis reels come in tomorrow and I anticipate them fitting the spinning rods just fine.
The bent one looks like a rod does when it's leaning against the wall a little bit. Mostly verticle, but slightly leaning. No way that's normal. Awhile back I was noticing some rods like this in stores and looked it up. Aaron Martens has some information about it. He says that's what happens when a rod is stored improperly. It takes the bend over time and then ruined. I trust him.
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 2:22 AM, BaitFinesse said:Yep, not all reel feet are the same size. Some reels will leave a bigger gap in some reel seats that other reels. If this sort of thing bothers you then ask around the forums to see how others with the same reel/rod combo find the fitment before purchasing. Others aren't bothered by this ar all and are perplexed as to why anyone would care. Know your tastes and do your due diligence before purchasing.
I've spent all winter upgrading my gear, my wife's gear, and my son's gear. I've done extensive research. That's why I settled on Dobyns. A normal President should fit them. First page proves that. I got unlucky and got 2 Presidents that do not. The reel feet between the 2 are slightly different sizes and shapes too. Not noticeable unless you're seriously comparing them after running into a problem like mine.
ike8120 reply :
I upgraded my rods to Dobyns Fury series 702SF/KastKing Sharky lll No problems with rod or reel, 703SF/ Shimano 2500, No problems, 705CB/Diawa Fuego CT, No Problems, 735C/Diawa Fuego CT/No Problems.
I just checked all 4 of my rods and I have green.
MickD reply :
On 3/6/2019 at 11:33 PM, ResoKP said:Not trying to be a D but almost all rods do have a visible bend. If you ask any rod builder they will tell you almost all of the blanks (high-end, low-end doesn't matter) will have varying degrees of noticeable bend. Only a very very very few are arrow straight.
I'm sure if you look closely you will see slight bends on all of your rods. If not, have someone who has a trained eye take a look at them.
Rod manufactures try hiding it as much as possible building on the straightest axis, etc but really, a perfectly straight blank is almost next to impossible to produce.
Honestly the most stressful part of buying a new rod is because of this for me. If I cannot inspect & compare at least 3 of the same rods side by side in person, I usually don't buy it. I know it doesn't affect performance but it bothers me if the bends are "too" noticeable or in the left/right direction.
I am a builder and have a "trained eye." I've been working on that eye for about 65 years. If the bend is easily noticeable, like you keep seeing it and cannot forget about it, then it's too much. If it can be masked by building with it up so it's not going to the sides, then fine. It won't hurt anything. While I don't know, I expect that manufacturers don't even notice the slight bends and don't bother building on the straightest axis.
Most blanks I see, when put onto my wrapper with two supports, one at the butt, and one about 2 feet out, will not show more than about 3/16 of an inch of tip position movement when rotated. I asked a blank maker one time about a blank that moved 1/4 and they wanted to replace it. Built on the straight axis, tip up, it is not noticeable. To me.
ResoKP reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 7:04 AM, MickD said:I am a builder and have a "trained eye." I've been working on that eye for about 65 years. If the bend is easily noticeable, like you keep seeing it and cannot forget about it, then it's too much. If it can be masked by building with it up so it's not going to the sides, then fine. It won't hurt anything. While I don't know, I expect that manufacturers don't even notice the slight bends and don't bother building on the straightest axis.
Most blanks I see, when put onto my wrapper with two supports, one at the butt, and one about 2 feet out, will not show more than about 3/16 of an inch of tip position movement when rotated. I asked a blank maker one time about a blank that moved 1/4 and they wanted to replace it. Built on the straight axis, tip up, it is not noticeable. To me.
I guess how much "noticeable" a bend is can be subjective to each person. I'm probably seeing all those "less than 3/16 of an inch of tip position" because I'm too OCD. Recently spent 4 hours at a fishing show checking out 100's of rods... Saw lots of bends lol. Actually bought a rod there. Had to ask the guy to bring out 4 of the same rod so I can pick the one I like. Retailers probably hate guys like me lol.
As a rod builder, do you find higher-end blanks have more curve to them because the blanks are more "raw" ?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Reel feet are not universal. It looks like they’re trying to do right by trimming the seat threads back like many custom builders do. Maybe too much of a good thing. As for the blanks, very seldom are any poker straight it won’t hurt a thing. I’m not one to excuse the mass production issues just adding some perspective. At the end of the day you’re the customer and that’s where expectations lie whether anyone else agrees or not.
jbsoonerfan reply :
Maybe a mod can change the title to Pflueger reels do not fit my spinning rods. That way it doesn't seem like a Dobyns bashing thread.
scbassin reply :
Jcj90, very well said.
MN Fisher reply :
@Glaucus, if you want to get rid of that President 25, I'll take it off your hands...no charge. 
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 1:07 PM, MN Fisher said:@Glaucus, if you want to get rid of that President 25, I'll take it off your hands...no charge.
If you really want it you can have it. Saves me from buying a rod for it. I've seen where your fishing budget isn't great so I'd love to do that.
MN Fisher reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 1:11 PM, Glaucus said:If you really want it you can have it. Saves me from buying a rod for it. I've seen where your fishing budget isn't great so I'd love to do that.
I was kind of joking - but if you're willing...toss me a PM and we can set things up.
Thank you so much....
Glaucus reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 1:12 PM, MN Fisher said:I was kind of joking - but if you're willing...toss me a PM and we can set things up.
Thank you so much....
I know you were lol but still I'm serious. I was gonna get an HMG for the extra reel and give it to my wife but honestly but we didn't need it. I'll PM
The 30 is off limits tho. That's going on the HMG I have with no reel on it.
MickD reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 7:45 AM, ResoKP said:As a rod builder, do you find higher-end blanks have more curve to them because the blanks are more "raw" ?
No, I do not see any correlation between straightness on blanks with respect to cost. Or company (AmTac, Rainshadow, St Croix/Rodgeeks, Point Blank.) Almost all are within that 3/16, most within an eighth. I build on blanks that run from about $60 to about $200, most in the $70-$120 range.
Glaucus reply :
Daiwa Legalis fits.
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