Whats The Best Braid To Fluoro Knot 2024
Nebasska reply :
I have tried a few and am looking for a fast easy knot to connect 2 lines and not worry about losing a pig....
Lewi reply :
Don't know if it is the best but I use a Double Uni-Knot in that situation. Have also done the blood knot too.
-Lewi
Nebasska reply :
thanks!
ABW reply :
Alberto
HookdUP reply :
Well the best is a Bimini ... But Albright is what I use in fresh water and light line applications
gunsmoke reply :
Don't really know the name but Google Pete gluszek , not sure if I spelled his last name right but he has a video of a knot him an ike use. I've used it for years can tie with your eyes closed, passes through any type of guide without problems and yes I've caught and never lost some hogs.
Crestliner2008 reply :
Another vote for the Alberto. Take the time to learn it. You won't be disappointed.
nascar2428 reply :
fast and easy, that would be the triple surgeons knot. Hauled in a sand bag without it breaking.
Bassin Bob reply :
Modified Albright (aka Alberto) is the Knot Wars champion in the line to leader category. Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_2xautA1U
J Francho reply :
So far for me, nothing I've tied beats an Alberto.
lecisnith reply :
I tied an Albright for the first time recently. Was a lot easier than I expected, and super strong.
gulfcaptain reply :
Alberto. I use it on all my connections. Once you learn to tie this knot which isn't very hard, it's the only braid to mono/FC you will every use.
PNWdude reply :
Another vote for the Alberto knot. It casts great through the guides like it's not even there.
Bigchunk reply :
Single uni
ChrisD46 reply :
On 3/10/2015 at 7:09 AM, ABW said:Alberto
^^THIS ^^ !!
J Francho reply :
On 3/10/2015 at 3:47 PM, Bigchunk said:Single uni
Huh? Explain.
ww2farmer reply :
Alberto and be done with it.
Penguino reply :
Double-uni
JDJ reply :
Double Uni (my preference) or Alberto each work well.
ColdSVT reply :
Lots of good ones honestly
Uni to uni
alberto
bimini twist
albright
I use the albright. 1 im good at it. 2 i never lost a tarpon because of my leader knot! If its tarpon proof it is d**n near chuck norris proof
SirSnookalot reply :
This is one of the better demonstrations I've seen tying the Bimini.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zScy2Fbnlg. IMO it's very time consuming and not easy to tie on a rocking boat in windy day. A good knot none the less but not really any stronger than making a loop using a 5 wrap uni knot as Jose Wejebe ties in his video, which is what I use.
When it comes to my everyday fishing, 7 wrap straight up Albright holds larger jacks and tarpon just fine, and takes just seconds tie.
cjam93 reply :
My favorite knot for any leader is the J knot. I can tie the alberto and it is very good and easy, but I find the J knot to be easier.
Bigchunk reply :
Single uni, not sure if ill explain well. But take fluro make a 180 and pinch it so its got an "eye" bring braid through wrap around fluro which will be doubled up, seven wraps and then back through hole. Some old guy in florida showed me. Caught alot of big snook amd reds never had breakage
SirSnookalot reply :
I've heard stories of braid cutting thru the F/C, some may want to try this. I tie the Albright in the traditional manner as well as this way too. Wrapping the leader over the braid instead of braid over the leader eliminates any chance of the leader being cut by the braid, as the braid is on the bottom. I've see no difference in knot quality, I think the knot is called a Bristol knot.
ColdSVT reply :
On 3/12/2015 at 1:39 PM, SirSnookalot said:I've heard stories of braid cutting thru the F/C, some may want to try this. I tie the Albright in the traditional manner as well as this way too. Wrapping the leader over the braid instead of braid over the leader eliminates any chance of the leader being cut by the braid, as the braid is on the bottom. I've see no difference in knot quality, I think the knot is called a Bristol knot.
I tir the braid over the flouro. Never had an issue with tarpon, snook, reds, and permit. Well i had issues bit it wasnt a knot problem. Wrecks,crab traps, bridge pilings, straightened hooks, tail whips, sharks, etc caused the issues lol
SirSnookalot reply :
I don't use flouro (except for kingfish and mackerel) but when I put a loop in the braid and tie my leader on that's when the leader is over the braid.
J Francho reply :
That would make the knot HUGE, right?
SirSnookalot reply :
Maybe a little bit, but not using long leaders it works well.
I'll post the video again.
matuka reply :
On 3/12/2015 at 1:39 PM, SirSnookalot said:I've heard stories of braid cutting thru the F/C, some may want to try this. I tie the Albright in the traditional manner as well as this way too. Wrapping the leader over the braid instead of braid over the leader eliminates any chance of the leader being cut by the braid, as the braid is on the bottom. I've see no difference in knot quality, I think the knot is called a Bristol knot.
Interesting. How many wraps up and down?
SirSnookalot reply :
On 3/13/2015 at 9:32 PM, matuka said:Interesting. How many wraps up and down?
Depends on the mainline and leaders I'm using. If I'm using 15 or 20# braid with 30# leader I go 7 wraps up and zero down, 20# leader or less than 8 wraps up and zero down.
If I'm bass fishing I don't put a loop on the mainline and do wrap the braid over the leader, but still 7 or 8 wraps up and zero down.
ColdSVT reply :
Im slightly different...i wrap em all down 15-20 usually.
works for me
J Francho reply :
That video is terrible. Maybe it's not a problem to mangle the leader on 30# mono like that, but that's a recipe for failure with line we use for bass.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 3/13/2015 at 11:56 PM, J Francho said:That video is terrible. Maybe it's not a problem to mangle the leader on 30# mono like that, but that's a recipe for failure with line we use for bass.
The video is great and from a well respected angler, want isn't so great is giving an opinion without first trying it. As said in the video he often uses 20# mono, that day he was using 30, the braid although not mentioned is probably 15# or so. As quoted above there is no mangling the knot is perfectly neat and spiraled. The knot is not big and it's strong, this I can attest to as I have used it many times. I see no recipe for failure while bass fishing with this knot, although I don't use it for bass myself. This was merely a suggestion for people that were asking about strong knots, and this one fits that bill.
J Francho reply :
Every bad knot I tied has never made it to the water, so I have no idea what it's like to fish one. I tie plenty of good knots that fail. This is a thread about fluoro. If you tie a knot, and the line is mangled, then you failed, and need to start over. Jose is a well respected angler, but that is poor technique.
Crank Bait Nut reply :
My 2-Cents , Albright Knot , Very Strong Knot.
Mike
SirSnookalot reply :
On 3/14/2015 at 4:12 AM, J Francho said:Every bad knot I tied has never made it to the water, so I have no idea what it's like to fish one. I tie plenty of good knots that fail. This is a thread about fluoro. If you tie a knot, and the line is mangled, then you failed, and need to start over. Jose is a well respected angler, but that is poor technique.
Why my response was deleted is a mystery, possibly a mistake as there wasn't a policy infringement. Many posts stray away from the OP, hardly deviation as some may find it beneficial.
A good knot that fails obviously wasn't a very good knot, knots tied correctly should not fail.
The knot in question is not mangled as shown in the video, hard to imagine an expert like Jose demonstrating how to tie and knot and doing it improperly. Tying this knot correctly does not make a difference using a mono or FC leader, I've used it many times with FC for line shy species.
As an update to re-affirm my opinion I tied it up on a typical bass set up for me, 10# braid and 10# leader. Fished it 2 days and it was flawless from a strength standpoint, never felt the knot going thru the guides.
As with any knot, use the one that you have confidence in.
shanksmare reply :
On 3/13/2015 at 11:56 PM, J Francho said:That video is terrible. Maybe it's not a problem to mangle the leader on 30# mono like that, but that's a recipe for failure with line we use for bass.
I'm sure I'm missing something ... but I've watched the video several times and I don't see Jose 'mangling' the leader (he didn't seem to wet the knot before cinching it up - was that editted out to make the video shorter???).
He used a spin off of a Spider Hitch (quicker to tie and almost as strong as a Bimini ... some say stronger) to form the loop in the braid and uses it to construct a 'modified' Bristol Knot. Bristol Knots are amongst the strongest of all the braid to mono knots. I'm sure if the knot he tied will hold up on a 30# permit it will suffice for a 5# bass.
J Francho reply :
I encourage all my competitors to tie knots and avoid dressing them before cinching them. In just about every thread that deals with fluoro and knots, it's brought up how critical it is to wet your knot before tying. Suddenly I'm wrong to bring this up here? Oh wait, is it because I criticized someone's hero?
We aren't fishing for permit, and we're not using 30# leader. What works for that is irrelevant here. No matter how great an angler Jose was, he'd have been better if he tied better knots, and less film would be on the cutting room floor. Tie a knot like this with 20# brain and a 10# leader and tie a mangled mess down by the hook without dressing the line and you will end with a problem. You'll post up here about it, and EVERYONE will tell you what I just said. Tie a better knot and dress the line with saliva before cinching.
As far as what he used in the video, I don't tie a spider hitch like that, but it is good knot to double up the main line. When I used back to back Uni knots, doubling the mainline helped to join a much larger leader without pulling through. A proper Alberto is a stronger knot for our application.
An Snook, go ahead and pick on my failed knots. They failed before I ever fished them. That's why you test your knots.
SirSnookalot reply :
What's relevant is the knot, not the species of fish. Like many knots it can be tied with various line and leader diameters. 20# braid with a 10# leader is no problem, as with any knot if tied wrong it can be mangled. There have been several knots mentioned, I don't recall any one saying which one was best but stating their preferences, the Jose knot is just another option.
The criticism appears to stem from a knot never being used or tried without tying it properly.
A pretty good time to say "Goodnight" on this one.
J Francho reply :
so let's wrap it up - pun intended 
Albright/Alberto: 15 replies
Back to back Uni knots: three replies
Triple Surgeon: one
J knot: one
Jose knot: one
J Francho reply :
On 3/12/2015 at 10:56 AM, Bigchunk said:Single uni, not sure if ill explain well. But take fluro make a 180 and pinch it so its got an "eye" bring braid through wrap around fluro which will be doubled up, seven wraps and then back through hole. Some old guy in florida showed me. Caught alot of big snook amd reds never had breakage
That's an Albright. Good knot. 
shanksmare reply :
The FG knot is the smallest and the strongest of all the flouro to braid knots (reportedly). It is rather tedious to tie(at least for me). I have tied this knot 4 or 5 times and have never had the connection break. This is because it always falls apart before it reaches that stage. This knot is a work in progress for me and definately requires a bit of practice if I should choose to use it.
The moral of my sad tale is that its always better to tie a knot that you are proficient tieing. A well tied Blood knot is superior to a poorly tied Albright, Bristol or Alberto knot. Practice your knots at home while watching TV and make it a habit to lube your knots with saliva or water. When you are on the water take the time to tie the knot well rather than risk disappointment later.
BasshunterJGH reply :
Blood knot. It's easy to tie and I haven't had any problems yet.
J Francho reply :
Maybe I stink at it, but the FG mangled leaders around 4-6 lbs. I'll have to try again.
paleus reply :
I tried tying the FG a few times just now. I could only get it to bite and hold about 3/10 times I tried it. The times it didn't hold the knot looked the same as the ones that held but the leader just slipped right out of the braid. I'm using 30lb PP with 12lb Trilene 100% Fluoro. It is really not that much smaller than the Alberto for line this size. I am gonna stick with the Alberto.
SirSnookalot reply :
I've seen that video before, nothing wrong with the knot. It's not practical for me, don't care to take the time to tie it. It may be difficult on a rocking boat or on land if it's breezy outside. I'm having no strength issues with my present knot, easy to tie and can do it under any conditions. Just another option if one is interested.
J Francho reply :
Can't get the FG to stick with 50# braid and 12# CXX. I'd like this thing to work - it's easy to tie, easier than an Arberto.
Alpha Male reply :
Easier yes... But, for me, more time consuming. I will try it but i dont use microguides so i will continue to use the alberto knot.
J Francho reply :
It doesn't seem any more time consuming than an Alberto.
paleus reply :
The Alberto seems easier to me as well since the line does not have to be under tension, but that also may be just because I have tied the Alberto more.
SirSnookalot reply :
If thinness were the reason to use this knot, I could buy that. But many people have stated hey have no problem with their present knot. If the reason is more strength that's something a bit hard for me to understand. If a small fish is hooked, little or no line is stripped out, not need for a super duper knot. If it's a very large fish that does pull out line, let it do just that as that's what the drag is for. When a fish pulls out line tension is reduced on the knot, again a super duper knot isn't needed.
One might make a case using this knot for some beefy fish (I still wouldn't use it), for bass fishing I hardly see the need. How many people really get broke off at the connection knot?
J Francho reply :
Judging by the number of these threads, enough that it's a more relevant issue than you think.On 3/21/2015 at 12:24 AM, SirSnookalot said:How many people really get broke off at the connection knot?
Catch and Grease reply :
Someone is always looking for the more perfect knot, everything is improved eventually...
SirSnookalot reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 12:41 AM, J Francho said:Judging by the number of these threads, enough that it's a more relevant issue than you think.
I see a lot more posts of people saying how much they love their knot, both diameter and strength. There are plenty of people that tie good knots that don't fail.
J Francho reply :
I'm not sure I understand your point?
Alpha Male reply :
On 3/20/2015 at 9:59 PM, J Francho said:It doesn't seem any more time consuming than an Alberto.
It seems that way to me... I'd like to think i can tie an alberto knot in 20-30 seconds. And as you stated previously i agree that every knot neexs to be your best knot. But that one never gives me any trouble. San diego jam and even the palomar with fluorocarbon always takes me awhile to make sure it good.
J Francho reply :
Well, it might bear out that this takes a long time, if I can't get it right first try, lol. I can't tie a good Alberto in 30 secs, so maybe that's my issue too.
Catch and Grease reply :
What have y'all been securing the braid to when trying to tie the FG knot?
Master Bait'r reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 1:17 AM, Alpha Male said:It seems that way to me... I'd like to think i can tie an alberto knot in 20-30 seconds. And as you stated previously i agree that every knot neexs to be your best knot. But that one never gives me any trouble. San diego jam and even the palomar with fluorocarbon always takes me awhile to make sure it good.
See that's the beauty of having so many options. I can spin up a palomar or double palo for braid really quickly but the Alberto takes me what feels like forever and I have a harder time the finer the lines- and heaven forbid I screw it up... This feels like it ties so easily. I know I can figure it out. That's what's particularly appealing to me- just the ease of the side to side loops under tension. It makes sense in my head, I just need the physical part to come together and build up some hand/eye/muscle memory. Also I feel like the subject matter is of importance too- it looks like the guy in the video is using ~#20lb PP and #15ish flouro or something. That braid is tiiiiiny in relation to the leader and I think that is going to matter. I don't know if you can get results like that with #50 braid and #10 flouro, but time and practice will tell. I'm going to give it some tries with #20 to #12 and see how it does.
J Francho reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 1:32 AM, Catch and Grease said:What have y'all been securing the braid to when trying to tie the FG knot?
The rod and reel. 
Catch and Grease reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 2:20 AM, J Francho said:The rod and reel.
Hmm, I figured, but he acted like you needed it pretty tight. I knew it would sound dumb but I wasn't sure, I'm gonna sit down and try to learn it today.
J Francho reply :
Actually, just barely taught works best. Too much tension and you link the leader.
But don't quote me - I still can't get it to hold every time, lol.
Catch and Grease reply :
Out of curiosity how short of a tag end do y'all put on your Alberto knots? I have been trimming mine down to about 1/16 of an inch to minimize the knot catching on the guides.
J Francho reply :
As close as possible. You can put a couple half hitches to smooth the transition.
Catch and Grease reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 9:57 AM, J Francho said:As close as possible. You can put a couple half hitches to smooth the transition.
What do you mean smooth the transition?
J Francho reply :
The half hitches make a ramp up to the thicker part of the knot. After some fishing, it gets burnished and flows smoother.
Catch and Grease reply :
On 3/21/2015 at 10:27 AM, J Francho said:The half hitches make a ramp up to the thicker part of the knot. After some fishing, it gets burnished and flows smoother.
Oh okay, I think I get what your saying..... I think lol
J Francho reply :
It isn't necessary - something Chad Hoover of KBF showed me years ago.
Choporoz reply :
I had a 7up/7back alberto fail on me this weekend. Sent the jig across the lake and got the worst braid backlash I've ever had. Examining what was left, it appears that the leader tag actually pulled through after a few hours of jigging, vice breaking. I did use yo-zuri vice fluoro and I now recall that copoly can have creasing/breaking issues when 'folded'. So I suppose its possible that hybrid isn't the best choice for leaders, but for now, I'm still doubting the knot more than the hybrid.
J Francho reply :
Never had any issue with the knot, Hybrid, or CXX - outside of the usual knot tier ones. Sometimes I test a knot, and it isn't good. SOmetimes the knot wears out from abrasion.
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