Kistler rods 2024

jtptr196 reply :

I am thinking of buying a kistler magnesium series mgswmh70 anyone know anything about these rods?

Tin reply :

You won't regret it!!! Amazing rods, was able to use a buddies for a while, never had an issue or heard a bad thing about them from my buddies who own them.

mayassa reply :

It has pretty good reviews

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=QZWHXRD2PRFAHLAQBBJSCOVMCAEFIIWE?id=0036611120912a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0280102&cm_ite=0036611120912a&_requestid=69878

roadwarrior reply :

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...never had an issue or heard a bad thing about them.

Huh?

Take THE reel you plan to use to the retailer and MAKE SURE it fits perfectly. If you order online, you will need to CAREFULLY examine the match-up with the reel. This has been a problem for some.

I don't know anything about "Smart Touch" reel seats, but I thought Dan said Kistler was updating with Fuji on their new production models? Are stainless steel guides a good thing? Well, at least you get the magic hook hanger!

TournyFish001 reply :

I love mine great rod- it rivals rods costing twice as much- very light and sensitive.

hollandbass reply :

$50 rod with a $170 price tag, a bunch of hype IMO. Cheap components, sloppy finish, so-so warranty. Ive had them all, go Loomis or Croix.

shimanogloomis man reply :

i have a lta 7 ft spinning rod its ok but not worth 250 bucks,ilke said before go with loomis, ;D st croix or shimano

Jimzee reply :

Yawn

5bass reply :

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i have a lta 7 ft spinning rod its ok but not worth 250 bucks,ilke said before go with loomis, ;D st croix or shimano

want to sell it? you should since its just ok...

ww2farmer reply :

jtptr196.........I few weeks ago I was also leaning very VERY close to buying a Kistler, the Jig-N-Toad rod from the Magnesium TS series. I was very impressed with the rod. I have never spent that much on a rod before so I asked here about them first. I got many responses, including advice on taking my reel to the shop and mount it first to see how it fit and balanced. So I did just that. I took my reel (Abu Garcia Revo S) to check the fit/feel. I was quite dissapointed. All 3 Mag TS Jig-N-Toads in stock had sloppy fitting reel seats. Now the Heluim LTA's I tried the reel on all had good fitting seats, but they were not in my plans. The Mag TS may be a great series of rods, but my $70 St Croix Triumphs, and $90 Fenwick HMX's all have tight fitting reel seats, for $170 I would have though that would be a non issue. I may still upgrade my rods in the future, but I am a little turned off by Kistler right now.

flippin4it. reply :

I had the Mag TS All Day Flippin stick (lost it in a boating accident). Loved that rod, balanced and sensitive. Great hook setting power. Had no problems or complaints.

Chris at Tech reply :

I have a Mg MH 69APC that I really like for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. Also does well with t-rigs.

To be fair, I did have a realseat problem when I tried a Pflueger reel on there, but no issues with a Curado or Revo STX.

Trevor in Burke reply :

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I had the Mag TS All Day Flippin stick (lost it in a boating accident). Loved that rod, balanced and sensitive. Great hook setting power. Had no problems or complaints.

what happened?

TournyFish001 reply :

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I had the Mag TS All Day Flippin stick (lost it in a boating accident). Loved that rod, balanced and sensitive. Great hook setting power. Had no problems or complaints.

what happened?

Id imagine the reel moved in the seat- mine did it to- all I did was put a 1/2" piece of e-tape on the reel and it is now perfect. Some reels are a bit loose in the seat-

Trevor in Burke reply :

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I had the Mag TS All Day Flippin stick (lost it in a boating accident). Loved that rod, balanced and sensitive. Great hook setting power. Had no problems or complaints.

what happened?

Id imagine the reel moved in the seat- mine did it to- all I did was put a 1/2" piece of e-tape on the reel and it is now perfect. Some reels are a bit loose in the seat-

: i was being facetious... he lost the rod in an actual boating accident on an outing we had one day

it's at the bottom of the occoquan now

AnthonyRSS reply :

I've had two LTAs with the Batson reelseats and 1 with the new ACS Fuji and they all work well. Had a Mg that was also fine. I have used a half dozen or so Batson reel seats on my rod builds and haven't had any problems with them either. I have had a few St. Croix Avids with loose seats though.

I don't think the Kistlers are worth the money, but they do have excellent customer service.

flippin4it. reply :

Thanks Trevor!

roadwarrior reply :

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I have had a few St. Croix Avids with loose seats though.

I have NEVER seen this complaint, but if that were EVER the case, the rods will be replaced at NO CHARGE.

Tin reply :

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I've had two LTAs with the Batson reelseats and 1 with the new ACS Fuji and they all work well. Had a Mg that was also fine. I have used a half dozen or so Batson reel seats on my rod builds and haven't had any problems with them either. I have had a few St. Croix Avids with loose seats though.
I don't think the Kistlers are worth the money, but they do have excellent customer service.

Thats one of the things everyone says about Kistler, their cutomer service is great. And when going for a new rod, that is one of the big things I go for, besides weight and sensitivity. As for St. Croix replacing your reel seats :-/, it all depends who you talk to with their Customer Service or who gets the rod when it arrives at the factory. Key word in their and most other rod companies warranty programs are LIMITED.

WCCT reply :

I have the Magnesium Crankbait rod. Model MgCBGGM70. It is probably the best crankbait rod I have owned. I have owned G-Loomis, St. Croix and Team Daiwa crankin sticks, and I liked them all except the Team Daiwa, but I like the Kistler better.

blade reply :

It seems like everytime someone brings up kistler rods, it steps on peoples toes. I think it funny that people that have never owned a kistler (roadwarrior) always have to put there two cents in. Sure croix make a good rod but no better than kistlers. ANd they WILL NOT come close to the customer service as kistler. You will not be dissappointed with a kistler and if you are for some reason you sould have no trouble selling it.

basspro48 reply :

I only own one Kistler rod but I tell you what that thing is a workhorse. It is a 7' MH Graphite Plus, it's as sensitive as any other rod in or above that price range, it can winch 6+lb fish out of some nasty cover with no problem, and basically it's just a joy to fish with.

Now I've never heard of or seen a Kistler with a faulty or sloppy reel seat, I have a Shimano Curado 100B

mounted on mine and haven't noticed any problems, and I have handled MG's and LTA's and never noticed a loose fitting reel seat.

I can't really say anything about their warranty because I have never had a problem with the rod and hopefully I never will. Kistler makes a good rod for a reasonable price IMO and I will never hesitate to buy another in the future.

AnthonyRSS reply :

I bet if you did happen to have a Kistler with a loose reel seat, they would make it right. I'm still not particularly fond of their rods though. I can build my own better for less.

Anthony

roadwarrior reply :

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It seems like everytime someone brings up kistler rods, it steps on peoples toes. I think it funny that people that have never owned a kistler (roadwarrior) always have to put there two cents in.

Posts from fishermen on this and other Forums. As a specific example, Raul has two Kistler rods with reel seats that DO NOT match up with most of his (high end) reels. As it turns out this is a CHRONIC problem that Kistler is aware of. I'm told they are now using Fuji reel seats, but knowing the problem they still shipped the older (defective) models. Knowing you have a problem and continuing to pass them on to unsuspecting retail customers is unethical.

p.s. Although I am a BIG fan of St. Croix rods, I have consistantly criticized the introduction of the Triumph (which I have never owned). This line of rods, at least initially, was distributed without adequate quality control in place. Some fishermen (The_Muddy_Man) have purchased rods without problems and highly recommend them at their pricing point. The FACT that MANY of the Triumphs were shoddy reflects poorly on St. Croix's otherwise fine reputation. I consider it an embarassment for the company that this line of equipment bears their name.

flechero reply :

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ANd they WILL NOT come close to the customer service as kistler.

More than one member here has been instructed, by kistler customer service, to use TAPE to build up a reel foot to fit a loose reel seat. Yup, they are nothing but solution oriented!! ;D ;D

Anyone see the new kistler Christmas sale ad? Buy any kistler rod and recieve 2 free rolls of electrical tape with a mail in coupon to 3M. ;D ;D ;D ;D

dbass reply :

flechero,

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Anyone see the new kistler Christmas sale ad? Buy any kistler rod and recieve 2 free rolls of electrical tape with a mail in coupon to 3M.

Yup now that's a great deal........

Raul reply :

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Anyone see the new kistler Christmas sale ad? Buy any kistler rod and recieve 2 free rolls of electrical tape with a mail in coupon to 3M. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do you guys think I should ask for mine ...... that would make four rolls of tape, wonderin ' how much tape I will need that will last a lifetime.

Tin reply :

Agree with Blade, if someone is asking questions about a product and you have not personally used one, just dont bother posting. I mean, dont put a product down unless you have experienced a problem with it.

From my experiences I didnt experience an issue with the reel seats or anything else. But obviousley others have, and thats the great thing about a site like this, you get to see everything and everyones experiences. Flip a coin I guess.lol

Raul reply :

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Thats one of the things everyone says about Kistler, their cutomer service is great. And when going for a new rod, that is one of the big things I go for, besides weight and sensitivity. As for St. Croix replacing your reel seats :-/, it all depends who you talk to with their Customer Service or who gets the rod when it arrives at the factory. Key word in their and most other rod companies warranty programs are LIMITED.

Dang ! that 's the word I skipped: LIMITED, how can LIMITED the warranty can be in a brand new rod on which THEY, not me ( for crying out loud ) glued a cheesy reel seat. I didn 't choose the danged reel seat, I chose to purchase their rods. I ain 't asking to replace a broken rod for free.

roadwarrior reply :

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Agree with Blade, if someone is asking questions about a product and you have not personally used one, just dont bother posting. I mean, dont put a product down unless you have experienced a problem with it.
From my experiences I didnt experience an issue with the reel seats or anything else. But obviousley others have, and thats the great thing about a site like this, you get to see everything and everyones experiences. Flip a coin I guess.lol

"Those who do not know their history are condemned to repeat it."

Direct, personal experience is NOT a requirement.

Tin reply :

Sorry Raul, generalized that. Everyone I personally know that owns a kistler, including myself when I snapped one in the tailgate of a truck. Sorry to hear of your issues with them.

Raul reply :

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Agree with Blade, if someone is asking questions about a product and you have not personally used one, just dont bother posting. I mean, dont put a product down unless you have experienced a problem with it.
From my experiences I didnt experience an issue with the reel seats or anything else. But obviousley others have, and thats the great thing about a site like this, you get to see everything and everyones experiences. Flip a coin I guess.lol

"Those who do not know their history are condemned to repeat it."

Weellllll, I do know the story and I can assure you I won 't repeat it, will never purchase a Kistler again. And if there 's any doubt I do have the rods:

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Correct me if I'm wrong Tin but wasn't it going to cost you an arm and a leg to send back 3 rods to Croix WHEN YOU WERE SPONSORED? Boat's not full of those anymore,lol.

As for Kistler, I have owned 1, mag ts (spinning) Loved it. Called Kistler on it and the new one was sent BEFORE I sent in the old one. They said to use the new tube to send the other one back. I paid 1 way shipping, that's it. No "$30 replacement cost or surcharge or anything. I accidently kicked it overboard 2 days later but,....

Just my experience.

Raul- Wanna sell those? Being a piece of junk, I'm hoping they are cheap? I'll use them for tent poles or something, $20-$30 a piece?

Tin reply :

Yup that was me, just lucky I guess. 3 new Croix's, 3 first casts, 3 breaks 8 inches above the cork. Said it was a LIMITED lifetime warranty.

Fish MD reply :

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I had the Mag TS All Day Flippin stick (lost it in a boating accident). Loved that rod, balanced and sensitive. Great hook setting power. Had no problems or complaints.

what happened?

Id imagine the reel moved in the seat- mine did it to- all I did was put a 1/2" piece of e-tape on the reel and it is now perfect. Some reels are a bit loose in the seat-

I'm a bit loose in the seat some days.

I tried the kissler and much prefer loomis. If you are going to drop that much drop a few more and get a GLX. You'll never fish anything but a GLX after that. The hook set power on a loomis is unmatched. St Croix are close though.

Raul reply :

I never said they were junk , I 've been saying since the day I fished with them that the reel seat is junk. I like the blank, I like the design but hate the reel seat.

I think that a responsible manufacturer like Kistler in this particular case should have been more finicky with the reel seat he selected for the series, man, if I 'm going to make hundreds of rods ( potentially hundreds of claims and problems ) I have be shure that the components are not Ok but PERFECT, heck, make 3-4-5-10 test rods and test the components, instead of looking at the balance sheet of the company you should check the most important thing of all which in ultimate instance is going to be reflected in the same balance sheet of the company you looked at first when you made the decision based on dollars and cents.

If all you care about is money look at it this way:

1.- Ok I sold two rods to Raul and made cash in the process

2.- I didn 't know Raul was so danged finicky

3.- Raul tells everbody he knows he is not satisfied with my product

4.- So Raul is scaring away potential customers

5.- I have lost not only with Raul, I sold him 2 rods, but he is never going to purchase me more rods and I loose all the potential customers I could have made.

For me the deal is simple: I don 't care how much you are saving purchasing reel seats from X instead of Y, if purchasing reel seats from Y costs you 1,2,3 or 10 dollars more per rod I 'd rather have you charging me those 10 dollars in the price and you know what ? I WILL GLADLY PAY THEM. 10 dollars more is cheap for all the trouble I 'm making for YOUR FAULT.

You are in the business of making rods, I am not, I don 't make a living out of making rods, you make a living with MY money.

5bass reply :

As an owner of many Kistler rods, some of the Magnesium's do have reel seat issues. I got rid of the Mg's that I bought and continued to buy the Helium LTA's....they are Kistler's "best bang for the buck" in my opinion. Kistler's customer service has been very good so far and I will buy more LTA's, if not LTX's in the future.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Shimano had issues with certain reels too. Now I got great customer service from them too so I'm not picking on them but does that mean you'll never buy a Shimano either Raul?

Things happen. Mistakes are made, it's how the company deals with you as their current and possible future customer that matters.

Again, I got great service from both. Kistler also had issues with the 1st run of the spinning magnesiums as well and they were all handled the same way mine was. Replacement sent 1st. Has ANY other company done that? Not fighting, ...asking. These are the only situations I've personally been involved in.

Which brings to mind that often it can be as simple as how you talk to them when you call but regardless, warranty shouldn't depend on personality.

Jimzee reply :

I have 9 Kistlers. Out of the 9, one has had a reel seat issue when I got it. I was the 7'8" Flippin Stick. I tightened it down on a TD-Z, no more issues. All of the rods I have received this year have had Fuji reel seats. I think they fixed the problem. Every time this subject is brought up the same guys, (you know who you are) have to jump on the band wagon and start pointing out the reel seat problem. I guarantee that more than half of you have not even fished one day with one of these rods. If you have, you would be more than willing to overlook this mistake. They corrected it, get over it. BTW, I spoke to the man himself (Trey Kistler) when I found out I had a loose reel seat, he offered me a full refund or exchange if the problem did not go away. The problem went away. I am not fussing, just telling it like it is. Sorry.... 8-)

Edited to add......I am in no way sponsored by Kistler rods, I only wish I was.

roadwarrior reply :

Okay, this is my last post on this thread.

When Kistler rods were first introduced they were hyped "As good or better than G.Loomis at a better price." Since that time (3-4 years?) the blanks, guides and reel seats have all been replaced. This might be spun as "upgrading" overtime as other companies do, but in Kistler's case, they offer nothing "proprietary" except the magic hook keeper.

So, forget about past claims and performance, NOW the rods are

"As good or better than G.Loomis at a better price?"

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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So, forget about past claims and performance, NOW the rods are

"As good or better than G.Loomis at a better price?"

I agree. Great rods for the $ (now)(and better service to boot)

AnthonyRSS reply :

The hook keeper sucks like no other though.

Anthony

Raul reply :

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Shimano had issues with certain reels too. Now I got great customer service from them too so I'm not picking on them but does that mean you'll never buy a Shimano either Raul?
Things happen. Mistakes are made, it's how the company deals with you as their current and possible future customer that matters.

Again, I got great service from both. Kistler also had issues with the 1st run of the spinning magnesiums as well and they were all handled the same way mine was. Replacement sent 1st. Has ANY other company done that? Not fighting, ...asking. These are the only situations I've personally been involved in.

Which brings to mind that often it can be as simple as how you talk to them when you call but regardless, warranty shouldn't depend on personality.

I knew the subject was going to arise, the difference is, if I happen to get a Shimano rod with a bad reel seat I just send the rod and they 'll give me another one at no cost and if the replacement happens to have the same problem well I can send it again and I 'll keep doing the same until they make it right.

Tin reply :

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So, forget about past claims and performance, NOW the rods are

"As good or better than G.Loomis at a better price?"

Yup, now a days I would. I really like Loomis, I have absolutley nothing bad to say about them, but I would take a Kistler over them, just like it more. But I like Carrot Stix more than both

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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Shimano had issues with certain reels too. Now I got great customer service from them too so I'm not picking on them but does that mean you'll never buy a Shimano either Raul?
Things happen. Mistakes are made, it's how the company deals with you as their current and possible future customer that matters.

Again, I got great service from both. Kistler also had issues with the 1st run of the spinning magnesiums as well and they were all handled the same way mine was. Replacement sent 1st. Has ANY other company done that? Not fighting, ...asking. These are the only situations I've personally been involved in.

Which brings to mind that often it can be as simple as how you talk to them when you call but regardless, warranty shouldn't depend on personality.

Are you saying Kistler won't make it right??

Raul reply :

You think of me like if I were right across the fence from Kistler.

Let 's see, shipping from Mexico to the US = 30 dollars, shipping from the US to Mexico = 30 dollars plus 17% of import tax from 180 = 30 dollars so that would make 60 dollars for ever time I send the rod to be replaced until Kistler makes it right.

Shipping back and forth from León to Monterrey to the Shimano dealer 7 dollars, no import tax. I can spend 7 dollars in shipping every time until the Shimano dealer makes it right.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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You think of me like if I were right across the fence from Kistler.
Let 's see, shipping from Mexico to the US = 30 dollars, shipping from the US to Mexico = 30 dollars plus 17% of import tax from 180 = 30 dollars so that would make 60 dollars for ever time I send the rod to be replaced until Kistler makes it right.

Shipping back and forth from León to Monterrey to the Shimano dealer 7 dollars, no import tax. I can spend 7 dollars in shipping every time until the Shimano dealer makes it right.

Yes, it makes sense but why is it any different than getting something replaced from any other company that had a screw up, ie, Shimano, Kistler,etc?? I don't see where Kistler deserves such criticism for a mistake when mistakes are common throughout the industry. I just don't get why they are singled out here.

If they didn't learn from their mistakes or had bad service concerning replacements I could understand but they are stellar in both categories JUST LIKE the brands you support. So why are they singled out, am I missing something? (surely not being confrontational, I am just a bit lost here I think)

Raul reply :

I support nobody, none of them give me half a penny for saying good things and shutting my mouth when I detect a problem, problem that not only affects me but will also affect somebody else.

If you think I don 't bad mouth Shimano, Gloomis, Daiwa, etc. that 's because you haven 't known me long enough to hear me bad mouthing them, got plenty stories about them too.

bait__Monkey reply :

Hey Amigo...you...da skinny one...

Be caful...my cous' don't ned no hep, but i alwas ther...just in case.

Yos'no, me an Raul go back awas...

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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I support nobody, none of them give me half a penny for saying good things and shutting my mouth when I detect a problem, problem that not only affects me but will also affect somebody else.
If you think I don 't bad mouth Shimano, Gloomis, Daiwa, etc. that 's because you haven 't known me long enough to hear me bad mouthing them, got plenty stories about them too.

That's my point, if you have stories from all of them.....how come you would still buy from them but not Kistler. Just askin'

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Hey Amigo...you...da skinny one...
Be caful...my cous' don't ned no hep, but i alwas ther...just in case.

Yos'no, me an Raul go back awas...

Relax knuckle Dragger,.......(We've never been close) :

Siebert Outdoors reply :

I just had to poke in and say I love seeing this topic everytime it comes up. Thanks for the entertainment.

Peace out homies.

bait__Monkey reply :

ut-oh...

next time you odor sumtin on yur credit crd i mite send you sum exstr Gary Yamamoto baits.

yu lik senko, no? wat colour yu no lik? i git yu sum thos.

how bout them fat ika, skinny man?

Raul reply :

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I support nobody, none of them give me half a penny for saying good things and shutting my mouth when I detect a problem, problem that not only affects me but will also affect somebody else.
If you think I don 't bad mouth Shimano, Gloomis, Daiwa, etc. that 's because you haven 't known me long enough to hear me bad mouthing them, got plenty stories about them too.

That's my point, if you have stories from all of them.....how come you would still buy from them but not Kistler. Just askin'

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Hey Amigo...you...da skinny one...
Be caful...my cous' don't ned no hep, but i alwas ther...just in case.

Yos'no, me an Raul go back awas...

Relax knuckle Dragger,.......(We've never been close) :

Read you know who 's reply.

I like to try stuff 5BL, the perpetual search for better performing tackle.

I still don 't understand why Shimano placed a chessy, cheap, crappy and lousy plastic cap on the tension knob of the old Curado B, for crying out loud, it was a 120 dollars reel !, Or why the cork in my Kistler rods is of much better quality than the one found in any of my GLoomis rods, ok the GL2 but ........ the GLX ? sob, 180 dollars rod with better cork than a 350 dollars rod ..... gimme a danged break !

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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ut-oh...
next time you odor sumtin on yur credit crd i mite send you sum exstr Gary Yamamoto baits.

yu lik senko, no? wat colour yu no lik? i git yu sum thos.

how bout them fat ika, skinny man?

I like all the free colors.

If it catches and is a value,....I'll always be here to help you prove it Even a Yamamoto I'll use as long as it's FREE!

PS- Find a chick Ape to help pick some of those fleas out of your coat you nappy haired primate

Raul reply :

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PS- Find a chick Ape to help pick some of those fleas out of your coat you nappy haired primate

U nutz or sumthin ?

He itches, she scratches and one thing leads to another ...... then we would have itsy bitsy teeny tiny BMs all over the place. Bad idea. :

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Ooooh,....didn't think of that,lol

Raul- How much to neuter the hairy critter?

Tin reply :

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Ooooh,....didn't think of that,lol
Raul- How much to neuter the hairy critter?

Sorry LBH I dont think this one creature that will ever go extinct.

Raul reply :

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Ooooh,....didn't think of that,lol
Raul- How much to neuter the hairy critter?

I 'd do it for free and without anesthesia so he can suffer a little bit but I dob 't think it would help, I have the same opinion, it ain 't gonna go extinct, must be spontaneus generation or some unsolved mystey of the universe, bad karma or an evil spirit placed here on earth to torture us with it 's incesant: mo stuff ! mo stuff ! all day long.

Jimzee reply :

I'm glad this thread didn't turn into a mine's bigger than your's competition. 8-)

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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I'm glad this thread didn't turn into a mine's bigger than your's competition. 8-)

Not sure, but just for the record, I had the 6'10" spinning

guest reply :

Somebody kindly put this thread out of it's misery.

5bass reply :

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Somebody kindly put this thread out of it's misery.

Cant do. There are still a couple unanswered questions.

Jimzee reply :

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Somebody kindly put this thread out of it's misery.

There........ How's that?

The_Natural reply :

You can build your own Kistler for much cheaper than you can buy one from the factory. Just order a rainshadow blank, a baston reel seat, and some batson guides and you are in buisness. Kistler is a rod assembler; not a rod maker. They don't roll any blanks. Go to another site where all the rod builders hang out (like george roth, mark g, etc.) and see what their opinions are about kistler. George Roth is probably the most respected custom rod builder around (he has custom built rods for Cal on Tackle Tour). Tackle Tours rod junkies with their addicition to JDM rods that are ornate and decorated will admit that the 15yr old GLX graphite is still second to none. It's fact. I don't have anything against Kistler but their profit margin. With their component choice; they are taking people to the cleaners on the HE2. For $300+...at least offer an ECS reel seat and Ti framed SiC's (the Rainshadow blanks aren't very costly either). The Magnesium series is a decent rod for the price and I can't say anything negative about it.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Which blank do they use for the magnesiums? (specifically)

dave reply :

Hey RW,

Trey's a Shimano guy!

blade reply :

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You can build your own Kistler for much cheaper than you can buy one from the factory. Just order a rainshadow blank, a baston reel seat, and some batson guides and you are in buisness. Kistler is a rod assembler; not a rod maker. They don't roll any blanks. Go to another site where all the rod builders hang out (like george roth, mark g, etc.) and see what their opinions are about kistler. George Roth is probably the most respected custom rod builder around (he has custom built rods for Cal on Tackle Tour). Tackle Tours rod junkies with their addicition to JDM rods that are ornate and decorated will admit that the 15yr old GLX graphite is still second to none. It's fact. I don't have anything against Kistler but their profit margin. With their component choice; they are taking people to the cleaners on the HE2. For $300+...at least offer an ECS reel seat and Ti framed SiC's (the Rainshadow blanks aren't very costly either). The Magnesium series is a decent rod for the price and I can't say anything negative about it.

Why don't you start making them and selling them for cheaper price than kistler, I will buy all you can make if you can make them as good as a kistler ( which I realy doubt you can) and incase you can't read they have changed over to fuji seats now, as someone said earlier in this topic.

fish-fighting-illini reply :

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You think of me like if I were right across the fence from Kistler.
Let 's see, shipping from Mexico to the US = 30 dollars, shipping from the US to Mexico = 30 dollars

Last week I thought you confirmed that you live in Tennessee thus the " hot in Tenn" thread??

Man I'm confused! LOL

The_Natural reply :

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You can build your own Kistler for much cheaper than you can buy one from the factory. Just order a rainshadow blank, a baston reel seat, and some batson guides and you are in buisness. Kistler is a rod assembler; not a rod maker. They don't roll any blanks. Go to another site where all the rod builders hang out (like george roth, mark g, etc.) and see what their opinions are about kistler. George Roth is probably the most respected custom rod builder around (he has custom built rods for Cal on Tackle Tour). Tackle Tours rod junkies with their addicition to JDM rods that are ornate and decorated will admit that the 15yr old GLX graphite is still second to none. It's fact. I don't have anything against Kistler but their profit margin. With their component choice; they are taking people to the cleaners on the HE2. For $300+...at least offer an ECS reel seat and Ti framed SiC's (the Rainshadow blanks aren't very costly either). The Magnesium series is a decent rod for the price and I can't say anything negative about it.

Why don't you start making them and selling them for cheaper price than kistler, I will buy all you can make if you can make them as good as a kistler ( which I realy doubt you can) and incase you can't read they have changed over to fuji seats now, as someone said earlier in this topic.

Yes, Kistler switched to the Fuji seat after numerous issues with the batson seat. I knew about it before they announced it, but I was still seeing the Batson seats at Cabelas. I'm not a rod builder...if I had the equipment and maybe the talent (never tried); I'd build a quiver of split grip glx's with black foam grips. I used to get into these debates, but I'm more relaxed now (come full circle I guess recently). It's all about what you believe in and spend your hard earned money on. Confidence in your equipment equals fish in your livewell, whether it is Croix, Loomis, or Kistler. I think you get more with a Croix or Loomis, but that's my opinion, and they are like a-holes...everyone has one. Use what you like. I break on average 3-4 Loomis rods each season whether it be my partner stepping on one, shutting it in the car door, etc. (actually never broken one on the hookset)...the warranty is imparative to me when I have a family. I get a new rod before I even ship out my broken one. That is ridiculous customer service. I'll surf the message boards while I have a few beers and sometimes I speak my mind when maybe I should just keep my thoughts to myself. People will find out by trial and error like they have for centuries.

TournyFish001 reply :

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The hook keeper sucks like no other though.
Anthony

weird I absolutely love the hook keeper wish all my rods were the kistler type keeper-

jtptr196 reply :

I bought the helium LTA 7ft . Thanks for all the input. I fished my DD22's on it and loved it. Great rod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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