Read the casting distance thread. So what baitcasting reel is recommended for distance? I like to launch topwaters in the summer and have had good success with the curado I. I wondered if anyone has a good suggestion for a baitcasting set up for distance. Rod reel line even different lures not necessarily topwater. What's everyone's favorite baitcaster for distance? Bank fishing some spots I have the break is at the end of the cast and with a good cast I've caught some fish I wouldn't have.
For distance I've found that my reels with TWS can absolutely launch baits.
On 1/25/2016 at 5:08 AM, DenhamBruce said:For distance I've found that my reels with TWS can absolutely launch baits.
Any tws or tatulas. Free floating spool tws or spool with a shaft. Which tws?
The Type R. My Zillion TWS is great but honestly the Tatula can cast just as far. I'd look at the Type R or Tactical since they both have the lighter spools over the standard model.
I've never seen anything outcast a Shimano Core, ever. I own one, I've fished with several of them and when I'm testing a new reel like I will be with a few I ordered recently I always compare it to the casting distance, and smooth retrieve of the Core. I've seen 600$+ reels that can't hold a candle to the core.
Did you clean the spool bearings in your Curado yet? I'd start there...
On 1/25/2016 at 5:34 AM, Jaheff said:Did you clean the spool bearings in your Curado yet? I'd start there...
Yes sir. Don't get me wrong I'm very happy with my ci. I appreciate everybody's opinion on what works best and always looking for the edge in baitcasting equipment,techniques, rods lures but I'm really interested in what works for others. Heck yeah keeping them clean really gets the most out of them.
On 1/25/2016 at 5:34 AM, Fishinthefish said:I've never seen anything outcast a Shimano Core, ever. I own one, I've fished with several of them and when I'm testing a new reel like I will be with a few I ordered recently I always compare it to the casting distance, and smooth retrieve of the Core. I've seen 600$+ reels that can't hold a candle to the core.
I've heard this about the core and hope they bring them back into production.
Reels don't cast, rods do. An improperly setup or cared for reel can inhibit casting but ultimately it's the Rod that will load and launch the bait.
If this thread had 50 posts...you'd get about 48 different recommendations...
You didn't specify a price range, but if price is no object the current model Shimano Antares and Calais DC often get the nod as the longest casting BC reels commonly used for bass.
At more affordable price ranges, it's hard to say which among MANY candidates has the potential for longest casts. Notice I say potential. Long casts aren't just a product of the reel, but the sum of the reel, rod, line, bait, and skill of the angler. Sometimes, the best performing reel is the one that has most recently been serviced or has the freshest bearings.
I have two NRX 852C JWR at home, I'm going to put a Silvermax and one and keep a Core on the other and throw 1/4 weight in the yard. I don't believe they're going to cast even remotely the same distance but we will see.
On 1/25/2016 at 6:59 AM, Fishinthefish said:I have two NRX 872S JWR at home, I'm going to put a Silvermax and one and keep a Core on the other and throw 1/4 weight in the yard. I don't believe they're going to cast even remotely the same distance but we will see.
One reel costs $40 and the other closer to $400. Hardly a comparison.
On 1/25/2016 at 7:07 AM, Jrob78 said:One reel costs $40 and the other closer to $400. Hardly a comparison.
An advertising company of this site just made a definitive statement about rods being what casts, with reels not playing a part unless they're set up improperly.. My point will be simply to show that it's misinformation for people whom take their advertiser tag, and word over common sense.
On 1/25/2016 at 7:07 AM, Jrob78 said:One reel costs $40 and the other closer to $400. Hardly a comparison.
Distance is distance...
Zillion with an Ize HLC spool over 1/2 oz. Spool will take a bit of searching and about a hundred bucks but totally worth it.
On 1/25/2016 at 6:59 AM, Fishinthefish said:I have two NRX 872S JWR at home, I'm going to put a Silvermax and one and keep a Core on the other and throw 1/4 weight in the yard. I don't believe they're going to cast even remotely the same distance but we will see.
Why would you mount casting reels on spinning rods?
The bait caster that will cast the farthest is the one with the most experienced fishermen casting it.
On 1/25/2016 at 8:19 AM, deep said:
Why would you mount casting reels on spinning rods?
Because I copied the wrong section.
It's a combination of angler skill, lure weight, rod action-length, line and a well tuned reel.
9' swimbait rod with tuned reel, premium line and 4 1/2 oz Hudd you can cast over 60 yards with ease.
Tom
On 1/25/2016 at 8:46 AM, WRB said:It's a combination of angler skill, lure weight, rod action-length, line and a well tuned reel.
9' swimbait rod with tuned reel, premium line and 4 1/2 oz Hudd you can cast over 60 yards with ease.
Tom
I've been considering a longer rod for my situation. Curious about line, reel (high capacity, braid or mono)
revo sx
Have you considered a different technique? I was in a situation where i couldn't reach the zone from shore. I had to move up to a heavier rod and weight. The carolina rig was perfect for the situation.
On 1/25/2016 at 8:55 AM, shaggydog said:revo sx
Interesting. I have a premier (gen3)and stx. The stx seems to do better for me. I do like the sx I guess I might have underestimated the magnetic breaks
Learn to use a well trained thumb, works better than brakes alone.
Tom
Not the first time this question has been asked. See what you can find with a search. Also do a search on Tackletour. What most feel to be the longest casting baitcast reels are beyond my budget. I've been impressed by several of my reels, but you can't tie on just any lure and expect to hit the moon.
On 1/25/2016 at 10:19 AM, new2BC4bass said:Not the first time this question has been asked. See what you can find with a search. Also do a search on Tackletour. What most feel to be the longest casting baitcast reels are beyond my budget. I've been impressed by several of my reels, but you can't tie on just any lure and expect to hit the moon.
^ This guy has the right idea.
I can cast to the limit of my hook setting range/power of my Powell Endurance rods so that is all I need. To me the rest of this is just a "Urinating," match. Reels would be designed a lot different if max distance was the only thing in bass fishing.
Rods cast...reels hold line.
On 1/26/2016 at 12:34 AM, Catt said:Rods cast...reels hold line.
Kind of not the case with baitcasters. Spinning reels yeah.
On 1/26/2016 at 12:55 AM, Evan K said:Kind of not the case with baitcasters. Spinning reels yeah.
Uh! Yea it is!
It's rod & casting technique!
Goggle World Bait Casting Records!
I do agree that technique and experience matched with the right gear will do the best job. I was thinking with the newer braking systems/bearing mods and reel styles I could get feedback for launching topwaters (frogs/wake baits/walkers/jigs /worms) I definitely did get great feedback and definitely not looking for controversy with equipment. I realize spinning equipment is probably best suited for distance but truly enjoy fishing from the bank with a baitcaster and wondered if the newer reels and which ones are enabling longer casts by design considering they are kept in proper shape. Are the older reel designs holding up or are some newer styles beginning to actually get more distance. If so whats working for all of the diehard baitcaster enthusiasts.
On 1/25/2016 at 5:34 AM, Fishinthefish said:I've never seen anything outcast a Shimano Core, ever. I own one, I've fished with several of them and when I'm testing a new reel like I will be with a few I ordered recently I always compare it to the casting distance, and smooth retrieve of the Core. I've seen 600$+ reels that can't hold a candle to the core.
I agree with you. I don't own one but I have used one and its amazing
On 1/25/2016 at 6:59 AM, Fishinthefish said:I have two NRX 852C JWR at home, I'm going to put a Silvermax and one and keep a Core on the other and throw 1/4 weight in the yard. I don't believe they're going to cast even remotely the same distance but we will see.
What are your results? And I'm assuming you have 0 braking on either reel when doing this test?
Also, Video proof or it didn't happen
As soon as we thaw out I will be working on gathering some real time data on this topic. I have purchased several packs of casting plugs and a big spool of Trilene Big Game. I am going to attempt to keep all variables the same except the reel. Plan is to place a ruler on the ground to serve as a line to cast behind. I would like to use flags with the reel names on them to indicate where the bait landed. Thinking about doing about 10 casts with each reel and then taking the measurement for the best distance. Going to do this test with a buddy in a park to help find the plug in the grass when it lands. I have 13 casting reels for this but may have another 1 or 2 added by then.
The biggest pieces of info I will be after is significant differences in casting distance. I did a Curado 50a vs Alphas SV and the Alphas SV beat it by about 15 feet.
When I get around to this I plan on posting the unbiased results. I also have different weights of plugs from 1/4 to 1/2 so I can do a light vs heavy test as well...
On 1/26/2016 at 2:53 AM, kickerfish1 said:As soon as we thaw out I will be working on gathering some real time data on this topic. I have purchased several packs of casting plugs and a big spool of Trilene Big Game. I am going to attempt to keep all variables the same except the reel. Plan is to place a ruler on the ground to serve as a line to cast behind. I would like to use flags with the reel names on them to indicate where the bait landed. Thinking about doing about 10 casts with each reel and then taking the measurement for the best distance. Going to do this test with a buddy in a park to help find the plug in the grass when it lands. I have 13 casting reels for this but may have another 1 or 2 added by then.
The biggest pieces of info I will be after is significant differences in casting distance. I did a Curado 50a vs Alphas SV and the Alphas SV beat it by about 15 feet.
When I get around to this I plan on posting the unbiased results. I also have different weights of plugs from 1/4 to 1/2 so I can do a light vs heavy test as well...
Thank you. I look forward to your posts
On 1/26/2016 at 12:34 AM, Catt said:Rods cast...reels hold line.
The reel has nothing to do with it? I don't think that you actually believe that. Sure, the rod loads and throws the lure but it ain't doing it by itself. Fact is, some reels are better casters than others and that is not arguable.
Do y'all know which reels hold every record for distance?
It aint none y'all listed!
Google it!
Every record holder will say it's the rod & the casting technique. They use super tuned Abu Garcia 5500 or 6500 not cause they cast better but rather they free spool better.
Educate yourself & then we'll talk!
Every reel requires some level of thumb control so the results will vary from user to user and reel to reel. I think it's perfectly legit to have a particular reel cast better for you. I just don't think you can say any one reel casts better across the board. The free spool on the Ambassador is actually limited by the non disengaging level wind. As a result they are a little less prone to backlash start up. You can get away with really chucking s cast with those. It's all for not out on the water anyway.
we can argue about this all day, but until someone develops a robotic casting machine there will be ZERO fair comparisons to be made.
Anyone know how they see which golf ball or golf club hits straightest or farthest? It's a robot, thus everything is in a controlled state.
And FWIW, fishing is much like golf in that accuracy will trump distance ERRYDAY......
On 1/26/2016 at 5:18 AM, Catt said:Do y'all know which reels hold every record for distance?
It aint none y'all listed!
Google it!
Every record holder will say it's the rod & the casting technique. They use super tuned Abu Garcia 5500 or 6500 not cause they cast better but rather they free spool better.
Educate yourself & then we'll talk!
That's nice but who needs that kind of line capacity and reel that size for bass fishing? Spooling up 300 yards of 12 # line so I can toss a jig or spinner bait? Maybe as a big swimbait reel but these reels are more used for Stripers and for Muskie in freshwater.
Perhaps the OP should have been more clear ... A bass fishing reel for "normal" bass fishing needs and weights.
Per
On 1/26/2016 at 6:34 AM, kickerfish1 said:That's nice but who needs that kind of line capacity and reel that size for bass fishing? Spooling up 300 yards of 12 # line so I can toss a jig or spinner bait? Maybe as a big swimbait reel but these reels are more used for Stripers and for Muskie in freshwater.
Perhaps the OP should have been more clear ... A bass fishing reel for "normal" bass fishing needs and weights.
Per
Im definitely open to reels that work for striper and musky lures as well. Line capacity can be important for stripes.
I recently picked up a Chronarch 100SF reel spooled with 20# braid and I'll tell ya, I can't run as far as that thing can launch anything I tie on!
Mike
On 1/26/2016 at 6:34 AM, kickerfish1 said:That's nice but who needs that kind of line capacity and reel that size for bass fishing? Spooling up 300 yards of 12 # line so I can toss a jig or spinner bait? Maybe as a big swimbait reel but these reels are more used for Stripers and for Muskie in freshwater.
Perhaps the OP should have been more clear ... A bass fishing reel for "normal" bass fishing needs and weights.
Per
Guys who are cast over 900 feet!
A well tuned reel is nice but without a quality rod & proper technique ya got nothing!
I would love to know the answer to this myself. I have Daiwa baitcasters all the way through Steez and Shimano up to Core, Lew's up to Team Pro, Duckett 360's, and a few Quantum Smoke 150's. I really can't tell much difference it how far they cast, all of them are pretty much the same on that.
Q Is there a record for the world's longest cast? What equipment was used, and when was it done? My guess is that it was made using a long surf rod. —John Novak, Hyattsville, MD
A You're right about the long surf rods. At sanctioned United Kingdom Surfcasting Federation (UKSF) events, Danny Moeskops established three weight-category records, his longest cast being with a 150-gram (5.29 oz.) weight in August 2004 for a distance of 915.22 feet. He used a Century TT-R rod with a modified Abu Ambassadeur reel.
At a noncompetitive gathering in 2002, Jason Willicombe made an even longer cast of 933 feet with UKSF-approved equipment at Davidstow, Cornwall. He used a Zziplex Dynamic HST rod with a modified Abu Ambassadeur 65/5500/CT mag reel.
That's not the story's end. Steve Rajeff, who has won the American Casting Association's championship 34 consecutive times and the biannual World Casting Championship 13 times, filled me in on the alleged longest casts of all, in South Africa back in the late '60s and '70s. Reportedly, these were casts of more than 1,100 feet using special reels with near spiderweb-thin line connected to heavy leaders and bullet lead. The rods were over 16 feet long, and only brutally strong guys were able to cast them.
The promotional stunt-cast Steve Rajeff made using an 11-foot surf rod with 30-pound-test line is also worth noting. His employer, G. Loomis, was making golf-club shafts at the time and the stunt was the kick-off for a PGA tournament. Rajeff competed against long-ball hitter Fred Couples by casting a golf ball against Couples' drive. He beat Couples' 999-foot slam by slinging the ball tied to his line and reel 1,011 feet. —Jerry Gibbs, Fishing Editor
108 yards with the Antares. The technique is nothing like you'd use in normal fishing.
Scroll to 3:15
There was a guy on youtube slingimg what looks to be a spoon 130 meters with a Conquest DC
On 1/26/2016 at 9:32 AM, rippin-lips said:108 yards with the Antares. The technique is nothing like you'd use in normal fishing.
Scroll to 3:15
That's the spirit! Gotta get me one of those and practice that casting technique.
On 1/26/2016 at 1:07 AM, Catt said:Uh! Yea it is!
It's rod & casting technique!
Goggle World Bait Casting Records!
Well, I think we're talking different things. Indeed it is the rod that launches the lure, as an extension of your arm. But the quality and smoothness of a bait casting reel has a tremendous impact on the cast, much more so than a spinning reel with its stationary spool.
With everything that's been said regarding rods being the important part of casting, I'd be very interested in seeing what sub 100 or sub 150 rods would cast better with the typical reel most enthusiasts like us would use. Curado e and I, daiwa zillion, t3, the BB1's for instance paired with sub 100 or 150 rods like the croix premier, ugly sticks, Fenwick and dobyn rods, and whatever other common rods fit that bill. I don't think I've seen any reviews where different rods that weren't in the 300 dollar and up range had been put to use with various reels that were filled with the exact same type of line.
On 1/26/2016 at 6:18 AM, buzzed bait said:we can argue about this all day, but until someone develops a robotic casting machine there will be ZERO fair comparisons to be made.
Anyone know how they see which golf ball or golf club hits straightest or farthest? It's a robot, thus everything is in a controlled state.
And FWIW, fishing is much like golf in that accuracy will trump distance ERRYDAY......
But BRO! how are you going to sink that 150yd shot with a putter??? Haha sorry man, I actually agree with your statement, but I couldn't resist.
30 years ago I had a Shimano Bantam 100 with the red wooden grips that had a centrifugal drag (2 little barrel-shaped weights on spool). It was mounted on a 6ft boron rod with 12lb mono. With 1/2 oz egg sinker I could nearly spool it on a cast. After that reel I had the Bantam 10mag (If I remember correctly) with the magnetic drag and could get nowhere near that distance. But I will say I had my share of birdnests with that 100. I have owned several others since then and nothing compared.
On 1/25/2016 at 5:34 AM, Fishinthefish said:I've never seen anything outcast a Shimano Core, ever. I own one, I've fished with several of them and when I'm testing a new reel like I will be with a few I ordered recently I always compare it to the casting distance, and smooth retrieve of the Core. I've seen 600$+ reels that can't hold a candle to the core.
I own 50 & 100 mg7s. I agree with you that they're smooth as silk, but I have (14-1) Fishing Con**pt A & Cs that outcast my Cores, and are nearly as smooth.
I also own a Diawa 1016 T3 Ballistic that out distances everything I own.
Just my experience.
I've actually dabbled in long distance casting years ago. I still have all my gear. custom surf rods made by Ryan White(master class) competitive caster from hatters jacks. Rods Made on conoflex(1st rod company to reach 900ft) blanks. Breakaway rods and purglas from South Africa, Penn ppt pendulum etc. all my reels are Abu 5500, 6500 ctc3 reels with no level winds. Also a penn 525 mag. There are 3 basic reels used by all competitive casters. Abu 5500/6500, penn 525, and DAIWA millionaire mag model. All the reels will be set up with an additional knob for braking and Good bearings. The line is usually 8-10lb mono with shock leader being 10x the lbs vs weight of the weight. 4oz=40lb, 5oz=50lb, with just enough shock leader to wrap around the spool 4-5 times. Top rods are century, conoflex and zziplex. With reels mounted at bottom of the handle for most leverage. These guys are using basically the same equipment. It is the person and technique that makes the difference. Period. There is no arguing this. Certain casting techniques are more powerful than others and get more distance. I.e. Off the ground cast(fairly powerful) and the pendulum(most powerful and most distance) this is also proven on the field. Spinning rods don't come close the bait asters in this realm also. Though none of this has anything to do with bass fishing it has help me be a really good caster. most good bass reels will have close to the same performance. It has more to do with the man loading the rod. Each Rod performs differently for casting. Bottom line is your not casting for records or bragging rights on the lake. Cast to your intended targets and be reasonable with the distance because physics is against you(hook setting capability at distance). Sorry for the long post. Btw, If anyone is interested in learning to power cast with long rods. Look at Neil mackellows video from breakaway. He shows all the casting techniques used in competition/surf.
On 1/28/2016 at 11:22 PM, Kidflex said:I've actually dabbled in long distance casting years ago. I still have all my gear. custom surf rods made by Ryan White(master class) competitive caster from hatters jacks. Rods Made on conoflex(1st rod company to reach 900ft) blanks. Breakaway rods and purglas from South Africa, Penn ppt pendulum etc. all my reels are Abu 5500, 6500 ctc3 reels with no level winds. Also a penn 525 mag. There are 3 basic reels used by all competitive casters. Abu 5500/6500, penn 525, and DAIWA millionaire mag model. All the reels will be set up with an additional knob for braking and Good bearings. The line is usually 8-10lb mono with shock leader being 10x the lbs vs weight of the weight. 4oz=40lb, 5oz=50lb, with just enough shock leader to wrap around the spool 4-5 times. Top rods are century, conoflex and zziplex. With reels mounted at bottom of the handle for most leverage. These guys are using basically the same equipment. It is the person and technique that makes the difference. Period. There is no arguing this. Certain casting techniques are more powerful than others and get more distance. I.e. Off the ground cast(fairly powerful) and the pendulum(most powerful and most distance) this is also proven on the field. Spinning rods don't come close the bait asters in this realm also. Though none of this has anything to do with bass fishing it has help me be a really good caster. most good bass reels will have close to the same performance. It has more to do with the man loading the rod. Each Rod performs differently for casting. Bottom line is your not casting for records or bragging rights on the lake. Cast to your intended targets and be reasonable with the distance because physics is against you(hook setting capability at distance). Sorry for the long post. Btw, If anyone is interested in learning to power cast with long rods. Look at Neil mackellows video from breakaway. He shows all the casting techniques used in competition/surf.
Thanks for chiming in.
So... in your opinion...
After the caster, and technique applied, what's next on the list?
Rod, reel, line?
Apparently the longest casting reel is a Daiwa Millionaire 7HT Mag. That's the reel the current record was set with.
Get 'em while they're hot!
Tom
No thanks at 12 ounces. While I have no doubt that these large capacity round reels are the distance kings for casting reels I have no use for one for bass fishing. Enough people complain about a reel being heavy at 8 ounces...
On 1/29/2016 at 1:26 AM, kickerfish1 said:No thanks at 12 ounces. While I have no doubt that these large capacity round reels are the distance kings for casting reels I have no use for one for bass fishing. Enough people complain about a reel being heavy at 8 ounces...
I was being facetious. IMHO, there is no one reel that can be labeled "the longest casting baitcaster". There are WAY too many other things that affect casting distance other than the reel. Any high-quality baitcaster can be set up, modified, super-tuned, etc. to cast as far as anyone wuld need to while bass fishing.
Distance is for show, accuracy catches fish.
Tom
My comment was more directed to the guys that fish with oversized gear and sight these large round reels as distance kings. I am not disagreeing but rather looking at this realistically in terms of modern day bass fishing... Not surf fishing, large freshwater game fish, or such.
Casting distance is a term that always creates some controversy. Most of the numbers are often not realstic. What I mean is how often is a bass fisherman casting a lead sinker only? Or how about a hevier lipless crank bait? Most of what I throw has some degree of wind resistance to it.
What I want are reels and setups that will cast normal bass lures, in normal weight ranges, that are comfortable to use for extended period of time to achieve an "acceptable" long distance.
Do I think it is fun to tie on heavy or impractical baits like a 1 oz lipless with no hooks and see how far I can chuck it? Sure, that kind of distance is fun and intersting to think about. What I am more interested in the every day side of it...
On 1/28/2016 at 11:30 PM, Paul Roberts said:Thanks for chiming in.
So... in your opinion...
After the caster, and technique applied, what's next on the list?
Rod, reel, line?
Exactly how you have it listed. Rod, reel then line.
Getting back to the OP question, what reel cast the longest. Guys, keep in mind that I am laughing a little bit as I am typing so please, don't get your britches all in a wad and give me it's the rod, then the line blah blah blah. What he wanted to know was, what is the longest casting reel for him and the lures that he is going to use. That means that he is using one rod and whatever line he chooses. If you take 25 different models of reels, and spool them with identical line and mount them on the same rod and use the same lure, more than likely, one reel is going to come out on top. Out of what is available now, the Calais/Antares DC wins.
On 1/25/2016 at 7:09 AM, Fishinthefish said:An advertising company of this site just made a definitive statement about rods being what casts, with reels not playing a part unless they're set up improperly.. My point will be simply to show that it's misinformation for people whom take their advertiser tag, and word over common sense.
While you can find plenty of misinformation on this thread, it is not DVT that is doing it. Mike makes the point that the right rod is far more important for distance than the reel. I completely agree. Yes there is some differences in distance across the spectrum of quality, commonly used bass fishing reels; but, on the same rod, using the same line and lure the difference in distance will be negligible. This assumes well maintained and set-up reels in the hands of a skilled caster.
Now have the same person take anyone of those same reels (or all of them) and a selection of rods of various manufacturers in assorted lengths, power and action, making sure the weight of the lure is within the range recommended by the manufacturer. The difference in distance from rod to rod will be dramatic.
Mike is one of the most respected individuals on this site. He has helped many of us with maintenance, troubleshooting and repair of our equipment, often at no charge. His common sense is apparent to anyone paying any attention. For others the jury is still out...
On 1/25/2016 at 4:46 AM, cddan said:Read the casting distance thread. So what baitcasting reel is recommended for distance? I like to launch topwaters in the summer and have had good success with the curado I. I wondered if anyone has a good suggestion for a baitcasting set up for distance. Rod reel line even different lures not necessarily topwater. What's everyone's favorite baitcaster for distance? Bank fishing some spots I have the break is at the end of the cast and with a good cast I've caught some fish I wouldn't have.
Since you like to launch TopWater baits I would suggest the following, a Calais 200 DC and a Loomis SMR 702C-TW. The Rod is 5'10" and rated for 1/4 to 3/4 oz baits but do not let the length fool you. You can put some serious ump into your cast and it will perform for you without hesitation. As for the reel if you cannot get it to sync with the rod PM me and I will be glad to walk you through it. P.S. Launching Topwaters is one of my favorite things to do out on the water...
Long rods with slower (parabolic) actions are best for distance. That said, I like faster actions (or at least power all the way out) for sensitivity and hook-setting. One can have a "slow" rod with power all the way out.
OP, Thanks for that question !
Talking about full circle, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.........
If, it was me, Look at tholmes, and John G, posts/answer..... These members tried to answer your question. As you asked it. All the others were opinions, that are priceless and have given, Paul Harvey's (the rest of the story). All are spot on.
Now, go buy the one, you can afford, (or save for), that have specifications closest to those reels they mentioned.
It's worked for me!!!!!! Then, get out there and break some records....
The 4 minute mile was humanly impossible, until someone, forgot to tell that to the man, that broke that record.....
KEEP FLIPPING & PITCHING, BABY !!!!!!!