Scorpion Vs Core 2025
Arv reply :
As some of you know, I'm on the hunt for a new reel. I'm looking heavily at the core 51, but the scorpion 1001xt recently piqued my interest. However, the tt review has me a bit confused. It sounds like they like it more than the core/aldebaran but then compare it to the curado 51/50e? I've never heard someone say the curado is better than the core... I saw the question raised on another forum but didn't feel like I saw a solid explanation. Can anyone compare the core and the scorpion performance wise? Thanks.
kickerfish1 reply :
Just like member "thehooligan" I am a huge fan of the 50 series shimanos. I currently have 4 and each has been supertuned and each has some upgraded parts. I am using the core 50mg7, the scorpion 1000xt, the chronarch 50e, and curado 50e. The differences are very slight and the prices jump considerably even when considering a lightly used reel vs new.
I was told the weight of the spool in the core and scorpion are the same. Obviously the handle length and knob size is the same as is the frame. The spool bearings are basically a 9 with the scorpion and as close to a 10 in the core. The reels differ in weight by about 1.4 ounces. The drag star on the core is not plastic like that of the scorpion, probably aluminum or some higher quality material. The spool tension knob is smoother to adjust and slightly larger on the core.
Performance wise I think the core will cast a tad further with your typical bass baits (say a 3/8 oz jig) but only a matter of feet. The retrieve may be a touch smoother and the gears are slightly faster. Free spool is slightly better on the core.
Also the part compatibility for the scorpion is essentially the same as the curado and chronarch 50 sized reels.
I purchased my core for $285 new and my scorpion for $200 in mint condition. I wanted the lightest and smallest sized reel Shimano made to mount on my Cumulus to achieve the lightest outfit I could put together. That is the only way I was able to logically justify the near $100 price difference when I bought the core. The other differences are very minor and are hardly noticeable.
It is a tough decision I know but you would probably be happy with either for most bass applications...
Arv reply :
Thanks for the quick reply! I know it all comes down to personal preference, but at those prices do you think the core is worth it over scorpion? I already have an aldebaran so I'm not overly concerned with having a super light reel, though it is a desirable trait.On 8/16/2014 at 12:00 PM, kickerfish1 said:Just like member "thehooligan" I am a huge fan of the 50 series shimanos. I currently have 4 and each has been supertuned and each has some upgraded parts. I am using the core 50mg7, the scorpion 1000xt, the chronarch 50e, and curado 50e. The differences are very slight and the prices jump considerably even when considering a lightly used reel vs new.
I was told the weight of the spool in the core and scorpion are the same. Obviously the handle length and knob size is the same as is the frame. The spool bearings are basically a 9 with the scorpion and as close to a 10 in the core. The reels differ in weight by about 1.4 ounces. The drag star on the core is not plastic like that of the scorpion, probably aluminum or some higher quality material. The spool tension knob is smoother to adjust and slightly larger on the core.
Performance wise I think the core will cast a tad further with your typical bass baits (say a 3/8 oz jig) but only a matter of feet. The retrieve may be a touch smoother and the gears are slightly faster. Free spool is slightly better on the core.
Also the part compatibility for the scorpion is essentially the same as the curado and chronarch 50 sized reels.
I purchased my core for $285 new and my scorpion for $200 in mint condition. I wanted the lightest and smallest sized reel Shimano made to mount on my Cumulus to achieve the lightest outfit I could put together. That is the only way I was able to logically justify the near $100 price difference when I bought the core. The other differences are very minor and are hardly noticeable.
It is a tough decision I know but you would probably be happy with either for most bass applications...
Hi Salenity reply :
I have all 4 in 50 size and on the water it's hard to tell them apart.
kickerfish1 reply :
The Aldebaran MG or the BFS? If you have the MG I really feel that you essentially have JDM core. If it is the BFS reel than you will obviously have a lighter spool and a more finesse oriented reel than the US core.
I can't recall if you said somewhere in a previous post that you had rod picked out for it or not? Perhaps the balance aspect may come into play somewhere should the rod be super light or considered normal in weight. I fish the two reels very much and just off performance (Lets say casting distance and smoothness of the retrieve only) I personally don't feel the difference in price is justified. However the selling point for me on the core was the shear weight or lack there of. If you had the reels professionally cleaned and supertuned while keeping the bearings stock in both you would be hard pressed to see a major difference that jumps out to you. The other reason I bought the core and it is somewhat sad, is to perfectly match the cumulus rod I have.
Arv reply :
Sorry, I keep forgetting to mention, it is the bfs. The new reel would go on an assortment of rods so I want it to be able to handle any number of things. Mostly Dobyns rods, which I am not concerned with balancing well with any reel, or my Cumulus 71mhxf, so the light weight of the core is, again, desirable, but not an absolute must since the scorpion is already pretty light, and the fact I already have the aldebaran bfs.On 8/16/2014 at 12:28 PM, kickerfish1 said:The Aldebaran MG or the BFS? If you have the MG I really feel that you essentially have JDM core. If it is the BFS reel than you will obviously have a lighter spool and a more finesse oriented reel than the US core.
I can't recall if you said somewhere in a previous post that you had rod picked out for it or not? Perhaps the balance aspect may come into play somewhere should the rod be super light or considered normal in weight. I fish the two reels very much and just off performance (Lets say casting distance and smoothness of the retrieve only) I personally don't feel the difference in price is justified. However the selling point for me on the core was the shear weight or lack there of. If you had the reels professionally cleaned and supertuned while keeping the bearings stock in both you would be hard pressed to see a major difference that jumps out to you. The other reason I bought the core and it is somewhat sad, is to perfectly match the cumulus rod I have.
Hogsticker reply :
http://japaneselure.gostorego.com/reel/shimano/shimano-baitcasting/shimano-scorpion-xt-1000.html
Killer price. I agree the Curado and Scorp are fairly similar, but the Scorp is a little better. It feels smoother, tighter, and less stressed to me. It's definitely noticeable in my hands. Could just be my reels though. I wouldn't spend the extra cash on a Core unless you're dead set on magnesium. You're going to want to upgrade the handle, and likely spool bearings either way, so use the additional funds for that. I know for certain MY Scorp makes less noise on the cast and retrieve than MY Curado.
Raul reply :
The Core is Magnesium, the Scorpion is not, that's the main difference and the reason why the Core weights 1.4 oz less. Is it worth the extra money ? Well, I don't know, I don't own a core but I do own several Chronarch 50 Mg and Scorpion 1000 Mg, and I really like them over my Curado 100 and Scorpion 1000 ( the same reel but non magnesium version )
thehooligan reply :
Two reasons I don't use scorpions/curados. There heavier then the core, and I rarely use the 6:4 gear ratio...
Great reels though, the Scorpions are cheap right now !!
Greeneye8181 reply :
The Scorpion 1000MG is a sweet reel. I presently own the Core 50MG but sold my Scorpion last season. I prefer the Core but if you can get a 1000MG they are usually a great price.
JGBassinAL reply :
Not trying to hijack the thread but I have been contemplating buying a scorpion 1000xt for a while (I already have a 1500xt and love it). I was wondering if there is any way to put 7.x:1 gears in the scorpion? I don't want to spend the extra for the core but I won't buy the scorpion either if I can't put those higher gears in. I really like the scorpion series but would like a 50 size with 7.x:1 gears. Thanks!
TrippyJai reply :
On 8/16/2014 at 12:22 PM, Hi Salenity said:I have all 4 in 50 size and on the water it's hard to tell them apart.
All 4 spools are the same weight except different in colour. The JDM spools weight a tad lighter because of the lighter brakes, but you can order the smoke ones from Shimano for like $5. Performance wise, they will all be about the same.
The biggest factor in choosing a reel is weight, the core is much lighter. If you don't mind the extra weight, with the money saved, you can use it towards upgrading the drag star to aluminum, longer handle, power knobs, bearings, drag, etc.
On 8/16/2014 at 11:46 PM, JGBassinAL said:Not trying to hijack the thread but I have been contemplating buying a scorpion 1000xt for a while (I already have a 1500xt and love it). I was wondering if there is any way to put 7.x:1 gears in the scorpion? I don't want to spend the extra for the core but I won't buy the scorpion either if I can't put those higher gears in. I really like the scorpion series but would like a 50 size with 7.x:1 gears. Thanks!
Yes, you can buy the 7:1 gear set from the Core.
JGBassinAL reply :
Thanks TrippyJai!
John G reply :
The Core 100 star drag is a perfect fit for the XT1000.
dam0007 reply :
smoke brakes?On 8/17/2014 at 1:14 AM, TrippyJai said:All 4 spools are the same weight except different in colour. The JDM spools weight a tad lighter because of the lighter brakes, but you can order the smoke ones from Shimano for like $5. Performance wise, they will all be about the same.
The biggest factor in choosing a reel is weight, the core is much lighter. If you don't mind the extra weight, with the money saved, you can use it towards upgrading the drag star to aluminum, longer handle, power knobs, bearings, drag, etc.
Yes, you can buy the 7:1 gear set from the Core.
Hogsticker reply :
The Scorpion weighs a whopping 6.7 ounces. I think you can handle it. You may already be aware, but after buying your 1st Jdm reel you'll want another, and another.
Raul reply :
Smoke colored weight blocks.On 8/17/2014 at 9:47 AM, dam0007 said:smoke brakes?
Raul reply :
How can you fish an entire day with a 6.7 oz reel ? It must be soooooo tiresome !!! A real workout.On 8/17/2014 at 10:24 AM, Hogsticker said:The Scorpion weighs a whopping 6.7 ounces. I think you can handle it. You may already be aware, but after buying your 1st Jdm reel you'll want another, and another.
TrippyJai reply :
Smoke brakes I put on my 50E.
The list of upgrades are in this thread with pictures:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/128379-finished-upgrading-my-curado-50e/
I lied about being finished because I did a few more upgrades for fun. I swapped out the rachet, drive shaft and key washer from the Core because they were lighter saving a bit of weight. Reel was a tad lighter in hand, but when I put it on a rod, it didn't make much difference from before.
War Eagle 44 reply :
I was basically going to post the same pic but I opted to use three different brake weights because sometimes one smoke isn't enough but two is too much, imo. By having three different weights I can for instance on a windy day use one green brake, instead of two smoke brakes, and regain complete control over my spool. Two of any color block provide more braking force than a single green and I've never encountered a situation yet that the one green block wasn't able to handle. The clear blocks are "somewhere" in the middle, I can't remember exactly where in the order they fall.
I too, just yesterday in fact, installed Core 51 gears in this little guy. I can tell a slight difference in hand that it's a bit lighter but as you said not on a rod. Also as an interesting side note, I'm not sure if you guys have read about my previous pitching "problems" with this reel but the Core pinion gear seems to have fixed my problem. Even though I polished the inside of the pinion that came in the reel there was always a slight "lag" in spool start up while pitching but it doesn't seem to be there anymore with the Core pinion gear. I polished the inside of it as well before installing it and just playing around with the reel in the house last night after I was finished my free spool time seems to have increased a good margin.
I've "inspected" the stock pinion as thoroughly as I can but I can find a single spot on it or the spool shaft where they were rubbing together but they had to be doing so slightly somewhere as the "lag" is now gone. Either way I'm a happy camper as I killed two birds with one stone, made my 51E lighter, faster, and lag free.
Arv reply :
Well guys, I wound up getting the core. The scorpion will probably be in my short list in the future. I forgot how much I like the 50 size shimanos
kickerfish1 reply :
Nice buy. For the palmability, proven reliability, and the fact that it is still one of the lightest reels in the industry even though it is more than a few years it has been around should tell you something. I don't think you will be disappointed. I would fish it stock and likely flush the bearings and properly lube them and even have the reel supertuned. Those two things together will put the performance up there another notch. Most reel techs will do it for under $30 which is great upgrade. The stock bearings in the Core are some of the nicest Shimano uses. And yes the bearings between the Curado, Scorpion, and Core are different as you progress up the line. I was told by a reel tech that does thousands of Shimano reels that once cleaned and lubed the bearings on the core are close to 10. I don't mean a 10 on the abec rating scale like the 5 and 7 series which are popular but a 10 in terms of overall quality and performance.
Enjoy!
bass1980 reply :
Here's my suggestion. Buy a Curado 50e and get some core 7:1 gears and send it in for super tune and the works. Should still end up being cheaper than buying a core and from what I hear, should weigh around 6.7 oz with the lighter gears. I will be doing that for one of my Chronarch 51e this offseason.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I've got 1 or 2 of the 7:1 gear sets if anyone's interested.
dam0007 reply :
wait a minute, the different color brakes weigh differently? Is there a chart or something? Ive only ever used whatever came with the reels and typically all of them have only 2 set.
JeziHogg reply :
On 8/18/2014 at 8:53 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I've got 1 or 2 of the 7:1 gear sets if anyone's interested.
Are those compatible with the Chronarch E?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Yes, they'll work in any of the current 50 size. I have to check later to verify whether they are right or left hand.
kickerfish1 reply :
On 8/18/2014 at 7:49 PM, bass1980 said:Here's my suggestion. Buy a Curado 50e and get some core 7:1 gears and send it in for super tune and the works. Should still end up being cheaper than buying a core and from what I hear, should weigh around 6.7 oz with the lighter gears. I will be doing that for one of my Chronarch 51e this offseason.
Read his last post. He got the core.
Raul reply :
On 8/18/2014 at 11:13 PM, dam0007 said:wait a minute, the different color brakes weigh differently?
Yup, they weight differently
Nowdays I didn´t know how is the color chart but a few years ago there were green, smoke and pink, the reels came with a complete set of weights.
dam0007 reply :
Hey can someone elaborate the different colors further. Thanks
dam0007 reply :
Also, what is the Scorpion, the Chronarch E equal? This thread just got me interested in a jdm reel 
lol
thehooligan reply :
On 8/20/2014 at 9:38 PM, dam0007 said:Also, what is the Scorpion, the Chronarch E equal? This thread just got me interested in a jdm reel
Pretty much. The scorpion 1000/1001xt is a few grams lighter and they come with no ar pawl...
dam0007 reply :
On 8/20/2014 at 10:10 PM, thehooligan said:Pretty much. The scorpion 1000/1001xt is a few grams lighter and they come with no ar pawl...
Thanks, So anti reverese is 100% on the one way bearing? And do you know the differences in the brake tabs? what each one is?
TrippyJai reply :
On 8/20/2014 at 10:13 PM, dam0007 said:Thanks, So anti reverese is 100% on the one way bearing? And do you know the differences in the brake tabs? what each one is?
The anti reverse bearing is a one way bearing. The anti reverse pawl is a back up in case the one way bearing fails. Most people take it off and the JDM reels don't have the pawl. People will claim it's smoother without the pawl. I keep it on all my reels, it's a tricky part to tweak. If you have it on too tight, it'll cause the reel to be sluggish and if you have it too loose then it'll hop over every hump on the ratchet and make that clicking noise people complain about.
For the brake tabs, green is heaviest, then pink then clear/smoke are the lightest. I've not noticed a difference between the pink and smoke. I've always set 2/6 pink breaks for all my fishing conditions. When it blows like crazy during the Fall weather, change the casting style to a lower trajectory and tighten the spool tension knob a tad and if you still have issues with the wind then switch to a heavier bait. The old braking system really is a set and forget, I don't recall ever needing to change the tabs. I will however at the end of the season, pop 2 new tabs so they wear evenly.
dam0007 reply :
On 8/21/2014 at 5:44 AM, TrippyJai said:The anti reverse bearing is a one way bearing. The anti reverse pawl is a back up in case the one way bearing fails. Most people take it off and the JDM reels don't have the pawl. People will claim it's smoother without the pawl. I keep it on all my reels, it's a tricky part to tweak. If you have it on too tight, it'll cause the reel to be sluggish and if you have it too loose then it'll hop over every hump on the ratchet and make that clicking noise people complain about.
For the brake tabs, green is heaviest, then pink then clear/smoke are the lightest. I've not noticed a difference between the pink and smoke. I've always set 2/6 pink breaks for all my fishing conditions. When it blows like crazy during the Fall weather, change the casting style to a lower trajectory and tighten the spool tension knob a tad and if you still have issues with the wind then switch to a heavier bait. The old braking system really is a set and forget, I don't recall ever needing to change the tabs. I will however at the end of the season, pop 2 new tabs so they wear evenly.
Awesome thanks for the info. I have bright orange, black and dark orange tabs between my Curados Citicas and Chronarchs. Im gonna order some sets and play around with it. never knew this.
Edit* On all but 2 reels I only use 2 of the 6 brakes, 1 I use 4 the other none. I'm wondering if maybe just 2 light brakes and thats it not even put the other 4 on.Leave the tabs empty.. You ever try this?
Raul reply :
Any particular reason on why not having them installed ? they are either "on" or "off" it makes a difference when they are on but not when they are off.
TrippyJai reply :
On 8/21/2014 at 11:52 PM, dam0007 said:Awesome thanks for the info. I have bright orange, black and dark orange tabs between my Curados Citicas and Chronarchs. Im gonna order some sets and play around with it. never knew this.
Edit* On all but 2 reels I only use 2 of the 6 brakes, 1 I use 4 the other none. I'm wondering if maybe just 2 light brakes and thats it not even put the other 4 on.Leave the tabs empty.. You ever try this?
I don't see why you would need to take them off, it's better to have and not need than to need and not have. Won't make much of a difference either.
iamham3 reply :
I'm very interested in the Scorpion 1000 XT. Can anyone give me some insight as to the applications that this reel excels?
roadwarrior reply :
I have the original 1000, not the XT. Mine is saddled on an Avid AVC66MF.
This is my dedicated jerkbait rig.
Hogsticker reply :
I use mine for jerks and rattle baits up to half ounce. Also shaky heads, weightless plastics, smallish spinner baits, and shallow light cranks
dam0007 reply :
They have scorpion 200s available now look like the curado I but red.
iamham3 reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 4:02 AM, dam0007 said:They have scorpion 200s available now look like the curado I but red.
I want something a lot different from what I currently have, which is why I'm looking hard at the Scorpion. As far as low profile baitcasters I use Pro Qualifiers and the Daiwa Tatula. Is the Scorpion 200 close in size to what I'm currently using? If so, I'm definitely going with the 1000 XT.
iamham3 reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 4:02 AM, dam0007 said:They have scorpion 200s available now look like the curado I but red
I asked a question in my previous post, but I think I should have also asked what is/are the difference(s) between the Scorpion 1000 XT and the Scorpion 200?
deaknh03 reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 2:17 AM, iamham3 said:I'm very interested in the Scorpion 1000 XT. Can anyone give me some insight as to the applications that this reel excels?
I use mine for everything except heavy jigs/swimbaits..butit excels in the 1/4-3/8 range.
jonnyblazex reply :
Pink color brake collars came factory, they are the lightest weight, with least resistance. The green are heavier, and offer more resistance, may be better for larger heavier baits. The smoke, I'm not sure. May be the same as green, just come with a slightly newer model reel. If you bought a new shimano curado e or g series, I know they came with pink and un pretty sure it was green "spare" brake blocks in the box. I'll have to look at mine again, but I know for sure pink is what it comes with installed from the factory, and the other weights are heavier.
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 9:02 AM, jonnyblazex said:Pink color brake collars came factory, they are the lightest weight, with least resistance. The green are heavier, and offer more resistance, may be better for larger heavier baits. The smoke, I'm not sure. May be the same as green, just come with a slightly newer model reel. If you bought a new shimano curado e or g series, I know they came with pink and un pretty sure it was green "spare" brake blocks in the box. I'll have to look at mine again, but I know for sure pink is what it comes with installed from the factory, and the other weights are heavier.
Smoke is the lightest brake block Shimano USA currently offers. In hand you can clearly see they are thinner than the red/pink blocks.
John G reply :
Size, weight, gear ratio, color, braking systems and the XT1000 is Made in Japan vs Malaysia. Go to Japan Tackle's website and read the specs on both. I will warn you ahead of time, if you go there, you may find something that you want besides the Scorpions!On 8/26/2014 at 5:37 AM, iamham3 said:I asked a question in my previous post, but I think I should have also asked what is/are the difference(s) between the Scorpion 1000 XT and the Scorpion 200?
Hogsticker reply :
Just looked in my XT box. It came with a spare set of clear tabs, and a spare set of gray tabs. Never noticed the gray tabs before
bootytrain reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 11:26 PM, Hogsticker said:Just looked in my XT box. It came with a spare set of clear tabs, and a spare set of gray tabs. Never noticed the gray tabs before
Clear/gray is the same thing, they are the lightest. They come stock on the shimano/yumeya bfs spools.
Zimobass reply :
On the older version reels the listing below is what has been posted by the Shimano rep on other sites.
The newer reels with SVS that I have, have mostly red ones, and some come with optional lighter white brakes. Has anyone seen other colours ?
Lighter Red/Pink
Heavier Green
Heaviest Grey
John G reply :
Conquest 50 comes with yellow and blue
dam0007 reply :
Total thread hi jack, sorry.
Ok Scorpion 1001XT is equivalent to a Curado 201G? but in 100 size? and the Scorpion 2014 is the same exact thing as the Curado I???
Mike2841 reply :
On 8/27/2014 at 11:51 PM, dam0007 said:Total thread hi jack, sorry.
Ok Scorpion 1001XT is equivalent to a Curado 201G? but in 100 size? and the Scorpion 2014 is the same exact thing as the Curado I???
The 1001xt is the same size as a 51.
dam0007 reply :
On 8/27/2014 at 11:59 PM, Mike2841 said:The 1001xt is the same size as a 51.
Thanks was trying to figure this out. Is it worth getting one over say a Chronarch 51E? or better off with a Scorpion/Curado 2014?
dam0007 reply :
d**n you Arv! I have a Scorpion added to cart and having a boxing match with the bait monkey!!!!
Arv reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 1:16 AM, dam0007 said:d**n you Arv! I have a Scorpion added to cart and having a boxing match with the bait monkey!!!!
At least its not an aldebaran and a core51...
dam0007 reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 1:19 AM, Arv said:At least its not an aldebaran and a core51...
lmaooooooo
Mike2841 reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 12:20 AM, dam0007 said:Thanks was trying to figure this out. Is it worth getting one over say a Chronarch 51E? or better off with a Scorpion/Curado 2014?
I wouldn't know, haven't used any of them. But I can tell you the core 51 is great
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 8/27/2014 at 12:10 AM, bootytrain said:Clear/gray is the same thing, they are the lightest. They come stock on the shimano/yumeya bfs spools.
No, clear and gray/smoke are two different weights. The gray/smoke colored brakes are the lightest - period. Then the clear is somewhere in the middle, I'm not sure if they're lighter than the pink for certain but I think they are slightly. If you look closely at my pic you can see that the smoke brakes are "slimmer" than the clear and the clear is slimmer than the green.
iamham3 reply :
On 8/26/2014 at 2:41 AM, roadwarrior said:I have the original 1000, not the XT. Mine is saddled on an Avid AVC66MF.
This is my dedicated jerkbait rig.
On 8/26/2014 at 3:01 AM, Hogsticker said:I use mine for jerks and rattle baits up to half ounce. Also shaky heads, weightless plastics, smallish spinner baits, and shallow light cranks
I noticed neither of you guys mentioned flipping or pitching jigs, punching grass mats, or throwing frogs. Are these reels not recommended for those applications, or do they just not excel at them? If not, is it due to the gear ratio, or the size? And if it is due to size can I assume that none of the 50 sized Shimanos would work well with the aforementioned applications either?
I've read that the Scorpion 1000 XT is good at finesse applications. From what I can figure finesse applications just means the downsizing of baits. Are there any finesse applications that involve flipping or pitching? I think punching would be out of the question since the weight would be around an oz or bigger. Please advise.
dam0007 reply :
Bought the Scorpion 1001XT!!!!! First JDM reel!!! I whooped the bait monkeys arse!!!!
dam0007 reply :
I'm gonna use it for jigs. I wouldn't use it for frogs, using 50-80# braid. You need more line capacity. Everything else knock your socks off.On 8/28/2014 at 4:43 AM, iamham3 said:I noticed neither of you guys mentioned flipping or pitching jigs, punching grass mats, or throwing frogs. Are these reels not recommended for those applications, or do they just not excel at them? If not, is it due to the gear ratio, or the size? And if it is due to size can I assume that none of the 50 sized Shimanos would work well with the aforementioned applications either?
I've read that the Scorpion 1000 XT is good at finesse applications. From what I can figure finesse applications just means the downsizing of baits. Are there any finesse applications that involve flipping or pitching? I think punching would be out of the question since the weight would be around an oz or bigger. Please advise.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 8/27/2014 at 1:38 PM, Zimobass said:
On the older version reels the listing below is what has been posted by the Shimano rep on other sites.
The newer reels with SVS that I have, have mostly red ones, and some come with optional lighter white brakes. Has anyone seen other colours ?
Lightest Smoke/ClearLighter Red/Pink
Heavier Green
Heaviest Grey
I weighed a couple brake colors I use. Weight is for one brake each.
BNT3048 Smoke weighs .012 grams
BNT1715 Red weighs .017 grams
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
he will be back... And stronger than ever!!!On 8/28/2014 at 6:52 AM, dam0007 said:Bought the Scorpion 1001XT!!!!! First JDM reel!!! I whooped the bait monkeys arse!!!!
bait__Monkey reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 6:52 AM, dam0007 said:Bought the Scorpion 1001XT!!!!! First JDM reel!!! I whooped the bait monkeys arse!!!!
hmm?
i tink dats was mi idear...u dun good!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
We don't take kindly to bait monkeys 'round here..On 9/4/2014 at 4:19 AM, bait__Monkey said:hmm?
i tink dats was mi idear...u dun good!
ColdSVT reply :
I have been lusting over the scorpions for a year or two now and reading this whole thread did not help one bit...
tomustang reply :
On 8/28/2014 at 4:43 AM, iamham3 said:I noticed neither of you guys mentioned flipping or pitching jigs, punching grass mats, or throwing frogs. Are these reels not recommended for those applications, or do they just not excel at them? If not, is it due to the gear ratio, or the size? And if it is due to size can I assume that none of the 50 sized Shimanos would work well with the aforementioned applications either?
I've read that the Scorpion 1000 XT is good at finesse applications. From what I can figure finesse applications just means the downsizing of baits. Are there any finesse applications that involve flipping or pitching? I think punching would be out of the question since the weight would be around an oz or bigger. Please advise.
I use the 50's for pitching and jigs from 12-20lb fluro, and frogging with 50lb braid.
dam0007 reply :
you're right! Did not help me eitherOn 9/4/2014 at 9:36 AM, ColdSVT said:I have been lusting over the scorpions for a year or two now and reading this whole thread did not help one bit...
ColdSVT reply :
^^^ lol i cracked and got a ci4 chronarch and *** a few months ago lol
Love it!
masterbass reply :
I'm waiting for my scorpion xt. EMS tracking says it's in "retention period." Whatever that means, but I should have it any day 
dam0007 reply :
I wanna know how it took them less than a week to get the reel to me from Japan for $20 but yet TW takes a week and a half from Cali. LmaoOn 9/5/2014 at 4:28 AM, masterbass said:I'm waiting for my scorpion xt. EMS tracking says it's in "retention period." Whatever that means, but I should have it any day
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