OK, I bought one of these gold sticks from that ohya site on sale. Got it today, started putting a reel on it and while tightening down the cork cracked on the knob. Very disappointed with that, and worries me about happening again. Called GLoomis, and they said send it in and they handle it. Not using the wildcard deal either. Just worries me a little if it happens on down the road, and have to use the wildcard for such a trivial thing. OH, and I didn't tighten it no more than I do on my other rods either.
Anyone else had this happen?
my 1st big money rod experience. :
Should have bought a Steez, (just kidding).
That sucks ! I feel for you and I don't blame you for being very upset but don't let that deter you from buying nice gear. I've had at least 2 issues with expensive rods and reels but luckly they were taken care of very quickly.
It happens. Regardless of what you spent on a rod. Send it in and they'll replace it.
I've yet to fish my NRX (802C), but I have to admit I'm disappointed with the QC factor. Mine appears to be hastily built: lots of epoxy overrun on cork; cork not 100% at 12-noon; etc.
This mother better blow me away, because I am not happy with slop on a $450 rod.
I'm not a big GLoomis guy anyway, and this aint selling me. I'll probably stay with St. Croix and Dobyns for high end rods. I did take it out and throw a jig in a mud bottom pond, and I hope this thing comes alive when I hit the big water. I know it's a good rod, but so far I believe their is equal or better out there for less.
Remember guys its a mass produced rod.
If you want perfection then you better go high end custom and use someone like Matt Davis at Otterods. That $500 rod will cost you $600 but it will be perfect.
-steezy
I dont mean to be disrespectful but you should sent it back and get refund or replacement thats what I would do.
If that rod was at a store and the salesperson said this rod broke but was fixed do you want it for the same price as this other one that has never been broken. For sure you wouldnt buy the repaired one.
It would just bug me to no end to settle for a repaired rod for $450
Too when a product of this price is defective people say "well things like this happen" but have a $80 rod break the same way and you hear "well you get what you pay for."
A number of times Ive bought the "best brand" of something only to be disappointed and on the other hand bought the 3rd notch down item to be pleasantly surprised by the item.
Ive come to the conclusion that loomis rods are trash, of the few that ive cycled through, ive never been happy with any of them. This is why i went to avids and high end shimanos.
I have never had an issue with a G. Loomis rod. However, I have
broken one and had it replaced through the Xpeditor service.
My experience with Loomis customer service has been impeccable.
Have the rod replaced if you are not 100% satisfied.
QuoteIve come to the conclusion that loomis rods are trash, of the few that ive cycled through, ive never been happy with any of them. This is why i went to avids and high end shimanos.
Trash? That's a bit harsh. Every company makes a couple duds.
I understand your frustration, especially with a high end rod.
After adding Kistlers and Loomis rods to my arsenal, I have now taken the position to view the rod's stats, looking for the ones with the highest IM factor and price being the second component.
If I do purchase another high end rod I would expect it to be perfect upon receipt. No excuses. Perfect.
If the high end rods are not perfect than I would have doubts about its performance.
So far my Kistlers, G. Loomis, Shimanos, All Stars, St. Croixs and Ugly Sticks all perform as promised.
And the G. Loomis service is outstanding.
One more point. I always wait for a new rod or reel to be on the market for a few months to read about their performance before considering buying it.
I did break this rule and got two new Abu Premier 30 spinning reels and two new Verdict rods as they were free.
Please have a follow up post regarding your service with G. Loomis and also how the rod performs.
Happy New Year!
As steezy said , "it's a mass produced rod" , don't expect perfection.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on those Premier spinning reels.
lol...Gloomis rods are hardly trash. :
QuoteIve come to the conclusion that loomis rods are trash, of the few that ive cycled through, ive never been happy with any of them. This is why i went to avids and high end shimanos.
That's a shame you've came to that conclusion. All of mine have been excellent! (GLX's and IMX's - haven't tried an NRX........yet)
No way I 'm going to say GLoomis rods are bad, I 'm a GLoomisoid, howver, the truth is that for that kind of money I 'd rather have a custom made rod or one of them Japanese jewels ( Megabass, Evergreen ).
Some may argue about the warranty, man, I 've been fishing for more than three decades, I 've owned a bunch of rods, I 've broken 3 rods in that time, 2 out of my very own stupidity, once in more than 30 years I 've made use of the warranty so yes, it 's important to have a warranty but not THAT important.
QuoteIve come to the conclusion that loomis rods are trash, of the few that ive cycled through, ive never been happy with any of them. This is why i went to avids and high end shimanos.
I guess trash is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't know what to make of the often shoddy worksmanship of many Loomis rods. Some of mine are fine, others have epoxy overrun, gaps in the cork, show gaps when the reels are tightened, etc. The NRX's I've seen show a lot of these same lack of craftsmanship. Is this the price we pay for having rods made in the USA, that they are rushed through production? Most $50 rods at Walmart seem to be made as well! Yeah, I know they're not the same, just saying.
My Dobyn's Extreme rods are all prefect so far. Not a defect in site anywhere in fit and finish, FWIW.
QuoteIve come to the conclusion that loomis rods are trash, of the few that ive cycled through, ive never been happy with any of them. This is why i went to avids and high end shimanos.
Not wanting to start a rod war but I've fished with the most expensive shimano rod (cumulus) and IMHO the gloomis GLX still blows away the shimano cumulus. The cumulus is a very nice looking and stylish rod but the GLX eats its lunch. I cant speak on the avids and I love my Steez rods but the GLX is hard to beat.
Carrington, you do realize that shimano and loomis are the same company so if your buying shimano then you are still supporting loomis.
QuoteAs steezy said , "it's a mass produced rod" , don't expect perfection.
That's total B.S. For $500 I wouldn't expect surgical precision, but the dang rod ought to be built flawless, with top attention to detail, and top notch components.Unless you wipe your backside with money, $500 IS alot to spend on a rod, so it better be worth it. Custom made or not.
QuoteRemember guys its a mass produced rod.If you want perfection then you better go high end custom and use someone like Matt Davis at Otterods. That $500 rod will cost you $600 but it will be perfect.
-steezy
I somewhat agree. These rods are mass produced, so if you want "close to perfection," then have it custom made. But, even then, something could still wrong.
You said Loomis was going to fix the problem and you didn't have to use the wild card, that's because it's a manufacturers defect. Seems to me Loomis is standing behind there product 100%.
I fish nothing but Loomis and have never received a damaged or "sloppy" made rod. Sht happens, but I'm confident Loomis will make it right.
Well guys, I got a new rod back today(looks like a different one anyway). Kind a thought there might be a note or something saying sorry for the trouble, but oh well. Got a new rod and was taken care of pretty quickly. Now I'm just a little gunshy of tightning the reel down. Guess I'll just ease it down just over "snug"...
if it's made with human hands, you can expect a dud now and then...be it st. croix, dobyns, abu, kistler and all the other usual suspects.
one long look at any good tackle store will tell you that.
the fact is when you read enough over the internet fishing forums you come to see way more threads on broken loomis rods then any other.if you don't believe me start keeping track of it.i hardly ever hear about st. croix rods breaking or poor quality of finish on them.
on the sites i visit, there seems to be an equal amount of issues from every rod/reel/tackle manufacturer out there.
again...if it's made by humans, there will be duds.
Quotethere seems to be an equal amount of issues from every rod/reel/tackle manufacturer on the sites i visit.
again, if it's made by humans, there will be duds.
start keeping track of it.
i have been for many a year.
Crunch some numbers and give us some figuresQuotei have been for many a year.
i will if everybody else will.
8-)
i haven't actually kept track of it i'm going by instinct.i would be willing to say if you did keep track of it you might find i was right.
Quotei haven't actually kept track of it i'm going by instinct.i would be willing to say if you did keep track of it you might find i was right.
Yet you stated it as a "fact" when you first mentioned it :-?
I just received my NRX yesterday and looks great but I have had time to put the reel on it. Ive been a little worried
Hmm....
I have a few G.Loomis rods, some going back
14 years or so. I have used the Xpeditor service
when I rolled a window up on a rod. Several
friends fish G.Loomis and some of their friends,
too! I don't recall anyone ever having an issue
that wasn't resolved to their complete satisfaction.
8-)
QuoteHmm....I have a few G.Loomis rods, some going back
14 years or so. I have used the Xpeditor service
when I rolled a window up on a rod. Several
friends fish G.Loomis and some of their friends,
too! I don't recall anyone ever having an issue
that wasn't resolved to their complete satisfaction.
8-)
I've got 7 Loomis rods and only used the expeditor service once. The one time I did use it, it was to replace a rod that was ran over by my truck in the garage :'(. I spent a little over $50 and had a new rod in hand 2 days later. I know the expeditor service has gone up since I last used it but I have no complaints with the rods. I know this situation was different but If I had to put my money on it I'd say that majority of the time a Loomis rod is replaced it was because of something the owner accidentally did.
I broke my Shimano steelhead rod on a fish last month. Took it back to Gander, replaced under warranty. I didn't post up about it until now. I've also broken 5/6 Kistlers. Funny, the one that lives on is the ML drop shot rod. I rarely post about those, since I caught a bajillion good fish on all of them, and they were my gateway to better rods. I didn't make any claims on them. I've also broke three St. Croixs. All my fault, replaced under their Gold Star Service Plan. Going way back, I broke a Daiwa LT, and two Tournament Procaster SSi rods. Also a Berkley Accuflex Series one on a ceiling fan - THAT WASN'T EVEN ON! Hmmmm...what else. Silstar Pinnacle float rod. Pinnacle Steelhead rod.
Yeah, across the board....
I broke a St. Croix Mojo bass spinning rod last year on a hook set. About the second trip out with it. St. Croix replaced for no charge what so ever. Just me shipping it back to them. Called and offered me a credit for it's amount and apply that toward a higher end rod if I so desired. I now own a LTB, very happy with it. Kinda a blessing in disguise.
I'm satisfied with the NRX deal, it was just aggravating it broke the first time I put a reel to it.
If you have a NRX casting rod with a manufacturing number smaller than MF-62014, I'd contact Loomis about having it replaced. These early rods had multiple manufacturing issues with the handle & foregrip.
Keep in mind that the Xpeditor cannot be used with NRX rods as well. If you find a defect, I'd think you'd want to contact Loomis rather than use your golded ticket.
IMO, there's just too many manufacturing issues with these rods to make them worth the risk.
I have 32 G Loomis Rods, 15 Cabelas Rods, 10 Bass Pro Shop Rods, 6 Shimano Rods, 3 Pflueger Rods, 2 Berkley Rods, 2 Diawa Rods, 2 Sage Rods, 2 March Brown Rods, 2 Abu Garcia Rods, 1 St. Croix Rod, 1 Gander Mountain Rod & 1 Jarvis Rod. Of all these rods that I have fished with on a somewhat regular basis for the past 15 years, I have only broken one. That one rod was a Bass Pro Shops Bionic Blade. Therefore, from my personal sample size, I conclude that Bass Pro Shops rods break at an infinitely higher frequency than G Loomis, Cabelas, Shimano, Pflueger, Berkley, Daiwa, Sage, March Brown, Abu Garcia, St. Croix, Gander Mountain & Jarvis.
Help me understand this thread because I think I'm lost.
1. A NRX rod was defected.
2. It was returned.
3. No wild card was used.
4. Loomis stood behind their work and replaced the rod at no cost to the owner.
So what's the problem? :
Hmmmm, I just took possession of my brand new $400k Bentley. Oh No, a scratch from the manufacturer. Holly Hell Batman, return the car and never buy one again because Bentley's must suck ;D.
QuoteHelp me understand this thread because I think I'm lost.1. A NRX rod was defected.
2. It was returned.
3. No wild card was used.
4. Loomis stood behind their work and replaced the rod at no cost to the owner.
So what's the problem? :
Hmmmm, I just took possession of my brand new $400k Bentley. Oh No, a scratch from the manufacturer. Holly Hell Batman, return the car and never buy one again because Bentley's must suck ;D.
If you want to make the comparison more realistic, then you'd have to say that several models of the new Bentley had to be pulled off the sales floor because drivers couldn't fit inside them. Then on most the other models, the first several production runs had hoods that were likely to split open and/or windshields that would fly off while you were driving. Then, if you look over most any car for sale today, there were minor flaws in the paint, or a trim piece not lined up, or even a taillight lense missing.
For the top of the line car/rod, I would personally expect more.