magnetic vs. centrifugal 2024
jimmyjoe reply :
I've only used 2 magnetic reels, and haven't even scratched the surface of all the braids. But it kinda seems to me that magnetic reels handle mono line more consistently, and centrifugal reels handle braid more consistently. By "more consistently" I mean that they adjust to varying conditions quicker, more easily and more predictably. Less backlash, too. Am I maybe right or maybe wrong? jj
BaitFinesse reply :
I prefer centrifugal over magnetic unless it is Daiwa's Magforce Z/V and Air Brake which function very similar to a centrifugal system but with more control at low spool speed and more reactive to bait deacellerarion.
If looking at reels and the options are a linear mag brake, centrifugal or dual go for the centrifugal or dual for the centrifugal brake. The centrifugal brakes are more reactive to the rapid acceleration of the spool to curb spool RPM at the beginning of the cast than linear mag brakes which need more spool tension and/or gentle lob casts to keep peak spool RPM at the beginning of the cast under control.
A properly setup centrifugal reel will allow you to loosen up the spool tension and whip it out there and curb the RPM leaving you to feather the spool towards the end of the cast to put the bait where you want it.
Russ E reply :
I prefer a magnet /centrifugal combination.
like @BaitFinesse mentioned if you have the centrifugal brake adjusted properly you can loosen the spool tension and eliminate the backlashes at the beginning of the cast.
I can cast lures much farther and with less backlashes with the centrifugl/magnetic combination over the magnetic brake only reels.
Once the centrifugal brake is set, I don't touch it again. I also do not adjust the spool tension.
if I need any adjustment for lure weight or wind compensation, it is all done with the magnetic brake.
one bit of maintenance I do once a month with the centrifugal brake reels. is to wet a cotton swab with reel oil and lightly oil the brake ring. this keeps noise down and improves casting distance
Boomstick reply :
I have both, and to me it depends on the particular reel to be honest. My worst braking reel is an Abu Garcia Black Max. My best braking reel is probably my Daiwa Tatula SV, but the Pflueger Supreme XT I got for my youngest son brakes beautifully as well.
Log Catcher reply :
I prefer centrifugal brakes. I have two reels with magnetic brakes. I don't use the magnetic brakes on them. I keep them turned off.
Russ E reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 8:45 AM, Boomstick said:I have both, and to me it depends on the particular reel to be honest. My worst braking reel is an Abu Garcia Black Max. My best braking reel is probably my Daiwa Tatula SV, but the Pflueger Supreme XT I got for my youngest son brakes beautifully as well.
I agree with the black max as being one of the worst braking reels. I know a lot of anglers that start out with that reel. when they move up to better reels, they are often amazed at how well they can cast.
i have a couple abu-garcia revo's that are centrifugal/magnetic combos. they are very easy to cast.
I have a couple lews that are magnetic only and they take a lot of thumb control to keep from backlashing.
craww reply :
Prefer centrifugal for reasons mentioned above. Have a few dual brake reels and have owned/used a bunch. While I enjoy their forgiving nature- (backhand casts especially) and some cast very well, I wish theyd come out with a dual brake reel that could actually operate at peak performance using only one system independently. Everyone Ive seen has been the marriage of 2 inferior designs on their own; yet theyre fine together.
Boomstick reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 9:05 AM, Russ E said:I agree with the black max as being one of the worst braking reels. I know a lot of anglers that start out with that reel. when they move up to better reels, they are often amazed at how well they can cast.
i have a couple abu-garcia revo's that are centrifugal/magnetic combos. they are very easy to cast.
I have a couple lews that are magnetic only and they take a lot of thumb control to keep from backlashing.
On my Tatula's, I don't even have to thumb it for a normal cast and I run the brake between 6 and 8, occasionally as high as 10 for some lighter baits (it goes up to 20) so not all magnetic brakes are ineffective.
Russ E reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 10:00 AM, Boomstick said:On my Tatula's, I don't even have to thumb it for a normal cast and I run the brake between 6 and 8, occasionally as high as 10 for some lighter baits (it goes up to 20) so not all magnetic brakes are ineffective.
i agree. my kastking speed demon pro has a good magnetic brake system where I can do the same thing.
With my revo's i can set the centrifugal brake system just enough to stop the backlash at the beginning of the cast.
set the spool tension at a minimum, then lightly set the magnetic brake, just high enough to eliminate backlash at the end of the cast. they will cast a mile.
jimmyjoe reply :
Wow. No one mentioned whether they used mono, braid or both. Very interesting. jj
Russ E reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:33 AM, jimmyjoe said:Wow. No one mentioned whether they used mono, braid or both. Very interesting. jj
I use all three,depends on the application. The third being flourocarbon. Doesn't really affect my decision on magnetic or centrifugal brakes.
jimmyjoe reply :
I have a Daiwa Fuego CT100 that I can't get to like braid. (Yet, at least.) But with Big Game, it's flawless. I also have a Curado 200i that is OK with mono, until I cast a spinnerbait into the wind. Then I have trouble. But with braid (I use 50 lb. Sufix Performance braid) it's flawless. So I wondered whether the different systems had slight favoritism with different lines, or whether I just hadn't found the right braid for the Daiwa and right mono for the Shimano. Trying out all the different lines out there can be tedious ...... and expensive! So I thought I'd ask your opinion. jj
BaitFinesse reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 12:02 PM, jimmyjoe said:I have a Daiwa Fuego CT100 that I can't get to like braid. (Yet, at least.) But with Big Game, it's flawless. I also have a Curado 200i that is OK with mono, until I cast a spinnerbait into the wind. Then I have trouble. But with braid (I use 50 lb. Sufix Performance braid) it's flawless. So I wondered whether the different systems had slight favoritism with different lines, or whether I just hadn't found the right braid for the Daiwa and right mono for the Shimano. Trying out all the different lines out there can be tedious ...... and expensive! So I thought I'd ask your opinion. jj
Is the Fuego set up correctly? Just enough spool tension to eliminate side to side play?
burrows reply :
I prefer Centrifugal but I haven’t owned a magnetic baitcaster in many years.
Boomstick reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:33 AM, jimmyjoe said:Wow. No one mentioned whether they used mono, braid or both. Very interesting. jj
I've used mono, fluro and braid
BassWhole! reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 3:46 AM, BaitFinesse said:I prefer centrifugal over magnetic unless it is Daiwa's Magforce Z/V and Air Brake which function very similar to a centrifugal system but with more control at low spool speed and more reactive to bait deacellerarion.
This^. And no, I don't find one kind of brake or the other better for different lines. I use the old 6 pin centrifugal brakes, and I like them best, but any decent reel these days works, I borrow some reels sometimes that I wouldn't own, and catch fish just as well.
J Francho reply :
I don't think you can make any generalizations without getting specific to either models, or braking systems. Some simply work better than others.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 2:55 AM, jimmyjoe said:I've only used 2 magnetic reels, and haven't even scratched the surface of all the braids. But it kinda seems to me that magnetic reels handle mono line more consistently, and centrifugal reels handle braid more consistently. By "more consistently" I mean that they adjust to varying conditions quicker, more easily and more predictably. Less backlash, too. Am I maybe right or maybe wrong? jj
I think you might be wrong. My Gen1 STXL (magnetic only) has never had anything but 40# braid on it. Some of my longest casts have been with this reel. I've cast 3/4 oz. spoon and 10" unweighted ribbontail worm with no problem with adjustments. My 50th Anniversary Zillion has always had 12# mono on it. Has made some very long casts with a 3/4 oz. spinnerbait. Reel is about as close to set-and-forget as you can get.
Have 60# braid on a 201E7 and frog rod. Excellent distance. If it backlashes it is definitely my fault. Same thing can be said for my Chronarch 100B with 12# mono.
Practice can overcome a lot of problems. 
jimmyjoe reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 9:32 PM, new2BC4bass said:
Practice can overcome a lot of problems.
Ouch. I was afraid I'd hear that. That's why I said "kinda seems".
FrankN209 reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 8:45 AM, Boomstick said:I have both, and to me it depends on the particular reel to be honest. My worst braking reel is an Abu Garcia Black Max. My best braking reel is probably my Daiwa Tatula SV, but the Pflueger Supreme XT I got for my youngest son brakes beautifully as well.
I agree. It depends a lot on the reel brand. My Daiwa's brake perfect and so does my "not aloud to mention" reel also and it's centrifugal.
Matt_3479 reply :
I much prefer my centrifugal brakes personally. I don’t know why but my daiwa tatula sv is much pickier then my Shimano’s (curado k and chronarch mgl’s). I love the feel of the reels but I have headaches with it. My dad had 2 tatula sv’s and loves them.
It seems that the shimanos can have less spool tension then the daiwa and it requires more brakes. My Shimano’s have some spool play (very little “knock”) and 1 or 2 of the brakes on, where as my tatula needs to be tight spool and atleast 7 or 8 on the brake otherwise it birds nests everytime!
J Francho reply :
I typically run all my Daiwa reels with 10 on the brakes, and no spool tension. The only time I change that is when I'm skipping. Then it's 0 on the brakes, and plenty of spool tension. This has worked for any of their reels with Mag Force brakes.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:01 PM, Matt_3479 said:I much prefer my centrifugal brakes personally. I don’t know why but my daiwa tatula sv is much pickier then my Shimano’s (curado k and chronarch mgl’s). I love the feel of the reels but I have headaches with it. My dad had 2 tatula sv’s and loves them.
It seems that the shimanos can have less spool tension then the daiwa and it requires more brakes. My Shimano’s have some spool play (very little “knock”) and 1 or 2 of the brakes on, where as my tatula needs to be tight spool and atleast 7 or 8 on the brake otherwise it birds nests everytime!
If you don't have a bit of side-to-side play on your SV, then you don't have the reel set up right. Having said that, my first SV reel backlashed more than any other reel I owned. A trip to Ian cured that. A second one was good out-of-the-box.
FrankN209 reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:04 PM, J Francho said:I typically run all my Daiwa reels with 10 on the brakes, and no spool tension. The only time I change that is when I'm skipping. Then it's 0 on the brakes, and plenty of spool tension. This has worked for any of their reels with Mag Force brakes.
I'll have to try these settings also. I always run around 3 on the brakes with spool tension.
J Francho reply :
I leave them at 10, as a fail safe. If I need some distance, or it's calm, I'll back off the brakes. I'd rather not mess with spool tension whenever I change baits. I have a pretty well educated thumb, though. Been using baitcasters for 30+ years.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
A tighter spool tension also makes the handle turn a bit stiffer. I like a free loose handle feel so keep spool tension to a minimum always, dont change it lure to lure.
greentrout reply :
the best bc I've ever used was the old Cabela's Prodigy flagship reel made by Daiwa with magnetic brakes...sweet reel...smooth with easy casting...ahead of its time...
Matt_3479 reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 11:08 PM, new2BC4bass said:If you don't have a bit of side-to-side play on your SV, then you don't have the reel set up right. Having said that, my first SV reel backlashed more than any other reel I owned. A trip to Ian cured that. A second one was good out-of-the-box.
I agree but I can’t seem to figure it out. I’ve tried almost everything and just can’t figure this daiwa out! It was my first baitcaster and I got the tatula sv because I was told it’s one of the easiest reels. I shortly after bought my K and since have bought my 3 chronarchs and love then. Haven’t given up on my daiwa but always grab my Shimano’s
mcipinkie reply :
Here's my $0.02. Turn off all the brakes, whatever kind they are, and learn to use your thumb. I've been throwing baitcasters for over 50 years. Started with the old red 5000's, currently a Lew's man, but I have Revo's, Quantums, even a hand full of BPS Johnny Morris reels. Every one of them has the brakes completely loose. Honestly, I don't even know what kind of brakes they have.
The only time I ever touch the brakes on a reel, and its a Revo Winch, is when I'm throwing big crank baits, 8 or 10XD or something that size.
Boogey Man reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:21 AM, greentrout said:the best bc I've ever used was the old Cabela's Prodigy flagship reel made by Daiwa with magnetic brakes...sweet reel...smooth with easy casting...ahead of its time...
Those were actually made by PinnacleSilstar. Bass Pro Shops had some identical reels back about 2000.
greentrout reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:35 AM, Boogey Man said:Those were actually made by PinnacleSilstar. Bass Pro Shops had some identical reels back about 2000.
don't believe so....silstar was replaced with daiwa after having many problems...
good fishing...
Boogey Man reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:38 AM, greentrout said:don't believe so....silstar was replaced with diawa after having many problems...
good fishing...
Here's the Rick Clunn BPS reel. I had one. Same reels. Sorry not trying to hijack the original post lol.
greentrout reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:41 AM, Boogey Man said:Here's the Rick Clunn BPS reel. I had one. Same reels. Sorry not trying to hijack the original post lol.
not a big deal...but daiwa made mine...
good fishing...
new2BC4bass reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:26 AM, Matt_3479 said:I agree but I can’t seem to figure it out. I’ve tried almost everything and just can’t figure this daiwa out! It was my first baitcaster and I got the tatula sv because I was told it’s one of the easiest reels. I shortly after bought my K and since have bought my 3 chronarchs and love then. Haven’t given up on my daiwa but always grab my Shimano’s
If you have the spool set with a little side-to-side play and the brakes around 10 and it is backlashing a lot, then I'd have to think that you got a bad specimen. Like I said, my first one was like this, but I sent it to Ian Shields and he straightened it out for me. Plus I had some upgrades done while in his possession. Sweet reel now.
BassWhole! reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:21 AM, greentrout said:the best bc I've ever used was the old Cabela's Prodigy flagship reel made by Daiwa with magnetic brakes...sweet reel...smooth with easy casting...ahead of its time...
That is a house brand of the Pinnacle Scion. Nice reel, but I like the Matrix II (and all the similar ones they made for BPS, Cabelas, DSG, Pflueger, Browning, etc) better. That reel and the Vision, were actually reverse engineered Shimanos, and the leading Korean factories today inherited much of their development. They certainly had some known issues, but once addressed, they outperformed many other reels. Their waffle drilled spool will even today outcast most reels.
J Francho reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:21 AM, greentrout said:the best bc I've ever used was the old Cabela's Prodigy flagship reel made by Daiwa with magnetic brakes...sweet reel...smooth with easy casting...ahead of its time...
That is definitely a Pinnacle, and definitely not a Daiwa. Solid reel, though.
BassWhole! reply :
On 10/11/2018 at 9:05 PM, J Francho said:That is definitely a Pinnacle, and definitely not a Daiwa. Solid reel, though.
Also, the "flipping" switch on that reel didn't change the actuation of the thumb bar as is the case in most other reels, it was actually a secondary spool engaging button. The Scion was one of the first in the trend towards smaller, lighter reels, and used a magnesium frame, the Cabela's version didn't. I own one of each and they still work fine, but I seldom use them. I do throw small cranks for trout on them sometimes.
greentrout reply :
Did some research and found the box and owners manual the reel came in. It's a Pinnacle. The reel above is the new Daiwa Prodigy in 2007 for 99.99. Egg on my face...
I still have the Prodigy reel and use it. Never had a problem with it -- never. Just take it to the reel man to clean every year. 7.5 oz. small reel and very light for its time. 25 IPT, 6:2 and great magnetic brakes. I'm a fan of magnetic brakes. The reel has a centrifugal/magnetic brakes system using the dial on the sideplate.
Bought it for 69.99 normally 99.99 2006.
good fishing...
BaitFinesse reply :
To be fair the Silstars of that time were copying the outward styling of major manufactures such as Daiwa. That reel looks a lot like an old TDX.
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