P-Line Flouroclear and Yo-Zuri Hybrid 2025

-nick- reply :

These lines say they are a copolymer flourocarbon? Or something like that. What exactly does this mean? Does it have the same qualities as flourocarbon? Do you use it as you would a regular flourocarbon line?

bass wrangler569 reply :

Its not 100% fluorocarbon, its just fluorocarbon coated. I'm sure some other guys can give you more technical explanations. I will tell you I am a huge fan of P-Line fluoroclear!!! With the exception of my flipping rod (50lb power pro) all my reels are spooled with fluoroclear.

Bassaholic84 reply :

They are floro coated. They are more like a mono than floro IMO. I guess there a mix between the two. If you are looking for a floro i have heard the new Spiderwire 100% is the easiest casting and manageable floro. Again that is just what ive heard i am planning on buying some this weekend but have not used it yet..... I will post when i have tested it.

-nick- reply :

Well right now I have triline 100% Flouro on all my plastics and jig rods as well as my cranking rod. So do those lines sink and have little memory like flouro or does it float and have a lot of memory like mono? I'm just wondering it I should use it as I would flouro or if i should replace all my mono with it.

skillet reply :

I had always used original Stren 12lb and finally decided to change. Wanted to get rid of some of the stretch in mono. Tried 12lb P-line CXX. Couldn't believe how strong it was. Bend Gammi hooks before it breaks . Personally, I thought it had memory problems, looked like a slinky. I've heard if you drop down to 10lb, there's not nearly the memory. That small of a drop really shouldn't hurt the strength. Next, I tried Yo-Zuri Ultrasoft in 12lb. and it's GREAT. I use the 12lb on baitcasters and 6lb on spinning gear. Which ever co-poly you end up trying, you ought to try KVD line conditioner. It REALLY helps...

skillet

roadwarrior reply :

P-Line Floroclear is coated. Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft are bonded, not coated:

http://www.yo-zuri.com/Products/ProdLine/Hybrid.htm

8-)

-nick- reply :

So it's pretty much mono with less memory?

roadwarrior reply :

No.

Hybrid is less visible, in smaller diameters almost

invisible. The line is significantly stronger than mono

for a given diameter: #12 Hybrid is .013" in diameter,

the same as Ande and many other 12 lb test lines.

However, the breaking point is 19.5 pounds.

http://www.yo-zuri.com/Products/ProdLine/HybridLineChart.htm

8-)

ChiCityBasser reply :

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No.
Hybrid is less visible, in smaller diameters almost

invisible. The line is significantly stronger than mono

for a given diameter: #12 Hybrid is .013" in diameter,

the same as Ande and many other 12 lb test lines.

However, the breaking point is 19.5 pounds.

http://www.yo-zuri.com/Products/ProdLine/HybridLineChart.htm

8-)

Great info Roadwarrior and gonna have to spool up with some of the Yo-zuri over the weekend at BPS

retiredbosn reply :

After doing alot of research on the lines I'm sold on the hybrid. The qualities of the line are numerous, being bonded to the floro results in a closed cell construction and will not weaken when wet like mono, the floro makes the line much more abrasion resistant, it is denser so should cast farther, make cranks run a little deeper, etc. Additionally the thinner diameter to pound breakage results in a more sensitive line, add to that the floro prevents UV rays from braking down the line as quickly.

ChiCityBasser reply :

Ok just checked the yo-zuri site and I see they recommend the "Ultra Soft" for spinning reels but i don't see it on the BPS site. Hoping it might be in the store but if not I'm thinking of trying the regular in 10# for the Quantum Catalyst PTI-B I will be picking up over the weekend.

This sound like a good choice for a spinning reel?

Sorry to throw my question in on someone elses thread

roadwarrior reply :

If your local BPS doesn't carry these spools, they can still order them without any shipping cost to you:

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResults?searchOption=products&hvarSearchString=yo-zuri+hybrid&storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&CMID=TOP_SEARCH_GO&x=11&y=16

#6 original Hybrid will work fine, but BPS doe not carry Ultra Soft.

Cabela's is where I get mine:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0030185119278a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=yo-zuri+hybrid+ultra+soft&sort=all&Go.y=6&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&Go.x=20&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

Note: I treat all my line with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner,

it really makes a difference!

8-)

ChiCityBasser reply :

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If your local BPS doesn't carry these spools, they can still order them without any shipping cost to you:
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResults?searchOption=products&hvarSearchString=yo-zuri+hybrid&storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&CMID=TOP_SEARCH_GO&x=11&y=16

#6 original Hybrid will work fine, but BPS doe not carry Ultra Soft.

Cabela's is where I get mine:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0030185119278a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=yo-zuri+hybrid+ultra+soft&sort=all&Go.y=6&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&Go.x=20&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

Note: I treat all my line with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner,

it really makes a difference!

8-)

Thanks RW and after reading the reviews on the site as well and things here I'm gonna give the 8# clear original a try with the KVD lure conditioner. Cabelas is normally where I would pick it up but going to the BPS spring classic this saturday

ChiCityBasser reply :

Ok I got the 10# Ultra Soft spooled onto my Quantum KVD20 and had it out yesterday for a bit and the line had more memory and sprayed it with KVD line and lure conditioner last night.

I'll be going out again today to see if its any better and report back.

Did I go to big with 10# for the spinning? Should I drop it down to 6 or 8lbs for the spinning and use the 10# for the B/C?

roadwarrior reply :

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Did I go to big with 10# for the spinning? Should I drop it down to 6 or 8lbs for the spinning and use the 10# for the B/C?

I'm afraid so...#6 is what you need (.010" diameter, 11.9 lb test).

21farms reply :

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Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft are bonded, not coated

i think the yo-zuri hybrid lines are actually both:

"Yo-Zuri Hybrid is a revolutionary combination of fluorocarbon (PVDF) and nylon. It is extruded under extremely close tolerances to provide uniform diameter and strength. Once extruded, it is actually run through a double finishing process adding another double osmotic coat of fluorocarbon."

(not from the yo-zuri website but pretty common in descriptions at many retailers websites)

ChiCityBasser reply :

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Did I go to big with 10# for the spinning? Should I drop it down to 6 or 8lbs for the spinning and use the 10# for the B/C?

I'm afraid so...#6 is what you need (.010" diameter, 11.9 lb test).

Thanks RW and I'll be changing it out today since Cabelas had the 6# on sale for $4 in certain colors

ChiCityBasser reply :

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Did I go to big with 10# for the spinning? Should I drop it down to 6 or 8lbs for the spinning and use the 10# for the B/C?

I'm afraid so...#6 is what you need (.010" diameter, 11.9 lb test).

Thanks RW and I'll be changing it out today since Cabelas had the 6# on sale for $4 in certain colors

The KVD line and lure conditioner helped with the memory and caught a 1lb LM on a small park lake with the winter thaw happening here now

SWMIBASSER reply :

I find it hard to beleive that anyone has issues with memory with the Y/Z. I had zero problems with memory or twist when spooled on Pflueger Supreme's 8030 which is a small spool reel....

ChiCityBasser reply :

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I find it out that anyone has issues with memory with the Y/Z. I had zero problems with memory or twist when spooled on Pflueger Supreme's 8030 which is a small spool reel....

I think I went to big with the 10# line and should have gone with the 6 or 8# line like RW suggested

LAO162 reply :

In my LIMITED experience, here's what I found with #6 & #12 FC & YZ-US. I did NOT use line conditioner:

YZ-US

- far stronger, but not enough to prevent me from breaking the line on snags and other operator error situations.

- more wind knots, tangles & kinks

- my father, who does not pay attention to line type, complained after I switched from FC (sort of a blind test)

- not available locally for me

PL-FC

- not as strong

- thinner diameter for similar rating

- more manageable, fewer tangles & kinks

- better casting

- less forgiving to poor knots (P-Line is fair when suggesting a couple extra twists for a cinch know)

- less visible in and out of the water

- available locally for me

I prefer the manageability of FC, but will try UltraSoft again this year, except I will also use line conditioner.

Primus reply :

I've used both and I prefer the Yozuri over Floroclear, in my mind these lines are more like mono than a 100% florocarbon line. I like the Yozuri for topwater, shallow cranks & spinnerbaits but I prefer an all Florocarbon line for soft plastics and jigs.

CWB reply :

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I've used both and I prefer the Yozuri over Floroclear, in my mind these lines are more like mono than a 100% florocarbon line. I like the Yozuri for topwater, shallow cranks & spinnerbaits but I prefer an all Florocarbon line for soft plastics and jigs.

Couldn't have said it better. I have used both and like both but if you can get the size Yo-Zuri you are looking for in 1/8 or 1/4 lb. spools, you can't beat that. I have all the line I need for the next few years.

Now if only 100% flouro prices would start coming down...

bigmountaineer reply :

I used the Yo Zuri Hybrid line for a while, and it performed well. Now I'm looking to get the Ultra Soft from Cabelas.

adclem reply :

Yo-Zuri hybrid or ultra soft for a bait caster? I currently have 12lbs ultra on my Curado but am getting ready to put line on my new 51MG.

Thanks,

roadwarrior reply :

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Yo-Zuri hybrid or ultra soft for a bait caster? I currently have 12lbs ultra on my Curado but am getting ready to put line on my new 51MG.
Thanks,

Ultra Soft is more manageable, but that isn't really an issue with

baitcasters. Original Hybrid blends better with water so I have

gone back to the original formula. For gin clear water, the green

blends best; for stained water, smoke.

8-)

adclem reply :

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Yo-Zuri hybrid or ultra soft for a bait caster? I currently have 12lbs ultra on my Curado but am getting ready to put line on my new 51MG.
Thanks,

Ultra Soft is more manageable, but that isn't really an issue with

baitcasters. Original Hybrid blends better with water so I have

gone back to the original formula. For gin clear water, the green

blends best; for stained water, smoke.

8-)

Thanks RW, will pick up some Original Hybrid in smoke, since most the waters I fish around here are pretty stained.

Thanks,

Redhed reply :

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Yo-Zuri hybrid or ultra soft for a bait caster? I currently have 12lbs ultra on my Curado but am getting ready to put line on my new 51MG.
Thanks,

Ultra Soft is more manageable, but that isn't really an issue with

baitcasters. Original Hybrid blends better with water so I have

gone back to the original formula. For gin clear water, the green

blends best; for stained water, smoke.

8-)

what about the clear zuri line?

roadwarrior reply :

It's fine in both clear and stained water and I still have some

on one rig. I just like the looks of green and smoke better on

the reels! Really though, I don't think it makes much difference

one way or the other.

8-)

Redhed reply :

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It's fine in both clear and stained water and I still have some
on one rig. I just like the looks of green and smoke better on

the reels! Really though, I don't think it makes much difference

one way or the other.

t

8-)

thanks bud

adclem reply :

Just picked up some at the local BPS, got a spool of the green, didn't have the smoke color and also found an 1/8lbs spool in clear for $4.88 couldn't pass it up.

Quick question RW, when you say you soak your line in KVD L&L, do you just apply with a towel as you spool it up or do you spray it on the spool isteslf as you spool it up or what is the technique you use.

Thanks,

roadwarrior reply :

No towel, that's not necessary, but it might be more economical!

When spooling, I spray some on every 10-15 cranks, moving the

spool with my fingers to get "both sides".

8-)

Tokyo Tony reply :

I've used both of these lines, and these are my observations:

US is stronger than FC, has less stretch (so is more sensitive), and is more abrasion-resistant.

FC is more invisible than US and much more manageable. However, it is just about as stretchy as mono.

I guess it depends where your priorities lie. My priorities with line are sensitivity and strength, so I prefer US to FC. However, as others have said, make SURE you use KVD Line Conditioner, letting it sit overnight. Without the conditioner, US is a real hassle to use, even the 6 lb line on a spinning rig.

That said, I use almost 100% Power Pro 8-)

SWMIBASSER reply :

I know I keep repeating this post but for the life of me I can't figure how ANYone has problems with memory/manageability using the Y/Z Hybrid.

At least in 8lb test, I had ZERO problems with it, even on a small spooled 8030 Supreme.

And I just did remove the line it's been setting on that spool for months. Still no memory.....

Shrug/

daviscw reply :

I've had better success wth the FC over YZ Hybrid. I know i will get beaten down for this comment, but the KVD Line Conditioner seemed to actually stiffen my line if I didn't use it every single trip on the Hybrid. My line was decent without it though. I like Trilene 100% over anything though, and I can tell the difference with the conditioner on it.

roadwarrior reply :

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...but the KVD Line Conditioner seemed to actually stiffen my line...

Oh...Now c'mon...

daviscw reply :

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...but the KVD Line Conditioner seemed to actually stiffen my line...

Oh...Now c'mon...

I told you I would! I don't mean initially, I mean after a days use, if I don't use it again my line is worse than before.

zelmo reply :

Are those 1/8 and 1/4 lb. spools a promotion, or will they continue? My local BPS doesn't have any, and the online selection is sparse. Does any other store carry them?

adclem reply :

Our local BPS carries them, but they hard to find. They sell out of them as quickly as they get them in. I have only seen them in clear and smoke color. I have not seen them in other stores for the $4.88 price that BPS has them at.

Later,

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