I know the words "WD40" can barely be spoken in "knowledgeable" fishing circles without inviting ridicule, but the history of the product is fascinating. In fact (see about.com and numerous other sites) the product got it's name because the inventor was seeking a water displacment lubricant to resist rust and corrosion and suceeded on his 40th attmpt.
According to my research "WD-40 was first used to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion."
Pretty impressive credentials eh?
Now we come to "Reel Magic" as everyone calls it. Why? I don't know. I guess people are so ingrained by the hype that it is magic for fishing reels that they fail to read the actual name of the product which is clearly "Real Magic"
I don't want to quibble over semantics especially since copyright infringement may play a part, but when I read the side of the can of Real Magic for it's ingrediants it states "Warning contains Petroleum distallates" and no other indgrediants listed. when I read the side of can of WD-40 it too states "Warning, contains petroleum distallates" with no other ingrediants listed.
It seems to me that Real Magic is an overpriced rip off of WD-40 targeted to a niche market.
Tell me again why Real Magic is so much better for reels than WD-40. Apparantly I missed something.
I try to now and days to keep my mouth shut and so far have done quite well. All I will say is that I use WD-40 on all my reels and have been for the past 17 years. It works great for everything and I will continue to use it. That is all I will say about this. LOL
avid, I think you're on to something......
I made a similar post about this but was wondering about silicone in reel magic truthfully i dont want petroluem on my line.I just want silicone i dont no if OIL will hurt line it must not if ppl use WD40
I prefer to use PREPARATION H It is made from Petroleum Products too, but it all comes out in the end
QuoteI prefer to use PREPARATION H It is made from Petroleum Products too, but it all comes out in the end
HILARIOUS ;D
Real Magic is simply pure silicone spray. WD-40 has silicone in it, but it actually has a few other lubricants in it that leave residue. This makes WD-40 a better lubricant for door hinges and the like, but not line. I realized immediately after I purchased and used Real Magic exactly what it was...it behaved exactly like the Clearco High Perforamance silicone spray we used on our meat slicers when I worked in a kitchen my freshman year of college. Silicone spray is a superior lubricant, UV protectant, and plastic restorer. The cleaner and dryer a silicone applies, the higher quality it is. I went on line last year and visited Clearco's site, and you can order directly from them, but you have to buy a case at a time. The folks at Blakemore are making a killing selling 4oz of high performance silicone spray for $6. You can buy a case of 16oz cans from Clearco for around $50.
The 'High Performance Silicone Spray' or 'Ultra Dry Silicone Spray' are the ones you would want. Maybe we should go in on a group buy...
http://www.clearcoproducts.com/food_grade_aerosols.html
I don't know that I'd trust WD-40 for EVERYTHING.... On the reel, maybe....on the line, I don't think so.
JDW174, I agree ! :o
Avid....as far as the semantics, etc., I was wondering about Reel Magic versus Real Magic myself. Somewhere along the line the name must/may have been revised. I have a can of Blakemore REEL MAGIC here on my shelf. The ad in BPS online says REEL, but the picture shows REAL. Haven't looked at an actual can lately.
I won't even try to get into the qualities of either product. I don't use them on my reels (thus the old can), mostly because I don't want the spray to get on the drag discs.
Like natural said, Reel Magic is pure silicone. It has a tendency to gunk up reels over time. I only use KVD's line and lure conditioner now. I spray it on EVERYTHING. line, lures, boxes, tackle bag, reel, boat compartments. That stuff is awesome. If you spray it on your reels, give it a few minutes to dry, and cast, it will amaze you at how much distance it adds. Also, when re-stringing, I spray some on a paper towel and pinch it over the line as I'm reeling in. This coats your line and makes it repel water and uv rays. That means old mono wont sink.
KVD's L & L is awesome and I would recommend it to anyone. Reel Magic on the other hand is crap.
QuoteI prefer to use PREPARATION H It is made from Petroleum Products too, but it all comes out in the end
Ever wonder what happened to preparations A to G ?
QuoteQuoteI prefer to use PREPARATION H It is made from Petroleum Products too, but it all comes out in the endEver wonder what happened to preparations A to G ?
The inventor applied it, began reciting the alphabet, and when he got to H his discomfort, err, receded.
Seriously, why spray anything on your line?
QuoteSeriously, why spray anything on your line?
Actually I wondered the same thing but the bait monkey asked me to try the KVD stuff. Whereas I don't think its all that necessary it does seem to help make line more manageable and a bit limper so I like it. If I were to forget to use it I don't think I'd be brokenhearted but I do think it's beneficial.
Old New England fishing...when using cut green crabs for Tautog, my grandfather would spray them with WD40. He ate a lot of Tautog....
Reel Magic and other silicone sprays might make your line more mangeable but, then again, so will getting the line wet - (ya'know - in the water).
WHAT ABOUT IN THE TREES, ON THE DOCK,ON THE ROCK AND UNDER THE BOAT COVER
I actually use a common - and sometimes very dangerous - chemical to soften my line: Dihydrogen Monoxide.
Dihydrogn Monoxide has been known to cause death by asphyxiation (inhalation) and retention of bodily fluids. But...used with care, there is nothing much more effective, or cheaper.
I reccomend Dihydrogen Monoxide - but be careful.
Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the unstable radical Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
http://www.dhmo.org/
So to get this straight here you actually use wd-40 to make the line more manageable or are you guys talking about something to just lube the reel itself. I'm just curious not trying to be a smart elic but why do you use this stuff. I use wd-40 to help loosen up nuts and bolts etc, but never used it on my reels and I never will but just curious
No! No! We Don't Spray Any Silicone On or Into Reels
Treat your lines all you want.. But don't spray WD-40, Reel Magic, or any other silicone based spray onto or into your reels...
Tight Lines All!!
I do use silicone on my line when it is cold out, as in, brrrrrrrrrr cold. I also use it on my line guides in late winter. I use this stuff very sparingly. I used to buy Reel Magic but, a friend of mine is a chef and gets me big cans of Food Grade silicone they use in the restaurant. This works for me, and free, is a price you can't beat. I would never use this stuff on or in my reels, no way, no how, nada.
Okay, stupid question: If you all are spraying your lines, how does that stuff not get on your reel, just through the normal contact and interaction between line and reel???
QuoteI actually use a common - and sometimes very dangerous - chemical to soften my line: Dihydrogen Monoxide.Dihydrogn Monoxide has been known to cause death by asphyxiation (inhalation) and retention of bodily fluids. But...used with care, there is nothing much more effective, or cheaper.
I reccomend Dihydrogen Monoxide - but be careful.
Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the unstable radical Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol. http://www.dhmo.org/
aka H2O... :
The problem with water is that monofilament lines absorb water. As the line dries on the spool, it will maintain that shape (line memory). The various line conditioners provide some degree of waterproofing and therefore the line won't have as much memory.
DHMO... funny ;D
I was just reading a list of uses for wd-40, and #39 was that it is a fish attractant. It said one of the base ingrediants is fish oil? Is that true?
QuoteI was just reading a list of uses for wd-40, and #39 was that it is a fish attractant. It said one of the base ingrediants is fish oil? Is that true?
Did you skip over my other post? It's a Yankee secret, I might be cut off from the family now for letting it slip.... 8-)
"reel magic" is just "ju ju magic. its a waste of money; its just marketing. doesn't do sh****t for a reel or rod.
Gee, all I know is that fishing,hunting, and golf have more gimmicks than I can hit with a stick.Why not try a good shampoo mixed in a quart of water? i
Fishing line is basically plastic (nylon), and plastic gets UV damage from the sun just like anything else. Just look at the weatherstripping of any car that is a couple of years old. Sun causes UV damage...silicone is a UV protectant. The repeated getting wet with that hard lake water, drying in the sun, and getting wet again is harsher on line than just sitting on the boat deck. Have you ever been at the lake all day partying, and jumped in the lake for a swim several different times during the day? Your hair feels like straw when you get home. Silicone is good for your line...period. I won't pay the money for reel magic, but I will spray silicone on my line.
Im prob sounding like a kid now but would armour all be good i have used it on my rods and it has kept many lookin new (the graphite)im thinking a rag soaked with armour all for ur line as u spool it on.
QuoteNo! No! We Don't Spray Any Silicone On or Into ReelsTreat your lines all you want.. But don't spray WD-40, Reel Magic, or any other silicone based spray onto or into your reels...
Tight Lines All!!
I don't know why Reel Mech is saying not to use silicone spray, but I'm sure he has his reasons. I decided to end the controversy for myself. Zebco makes this neat reel oiler. SteveP told me about it. It's in a long narrow tube with a very pointy tip. The oil is visible through the tube. I am using this to sparingly put a drop on the worm gear. I still have some of the red spool bearing oil from Daiwa, I'm not sure why they make an oil especailly for spool bearings but WD-40 or Real Magic is now reserved for wiping down external components only.
PS to ReelMech. Both reels arrived today and are working beautifully. Thanks.
I use Real Magic(used to be Reel Magic),and it works for me.My reels cast much smoother after a shot.
The petro distillates act as a carrier in Reel (or Real) Magic.
QuoteThe petro distillates act as a carrier in Reel (or Real) Magic.
Exactly...and that stuff will harm the line.
Quoteand that stuff will harm the line.
I am looking at a can of REAL Magic and according to the label it will not harn the line. Also as often as most people change line it don't have time to hurt the line.
The KVD line and lure spray is great for Flourocarbon...it softens and makes it easier to handle. Asked him all about this Thursday at a show.
The CRC silicone spray available at Wal-mart is a pure silicone spray...and says "contains petroleum distillates" on the label, which is obviously in the carrier agent that evaporates. Reading on down the label, like the Clearco silicone sprays, it reads "FDA food grade approved for incidental food contact". Folks...if you can eat it...it will not harm your line . Silicone is in all Amour All or plastic protectant products.
I have used Reel/Real Magic on line with poor results. HOWEVER, the KVD Line & Lure others have mentioned really reduces the memory in lines even better than trolling the bare line out behind the boat, which is a pain when you have 4-5 rod/reel combo's that you need to straighten the line on.
If you haven't already, suggest you look at the FAQ's from the KVD Line & Lure web site. Answers lots of the questions that have come up here. Only problem, is that it isn't cheap.
http://www.lineandlure.com/info/faq_lnl.php