Round vs low profile 2024
kjfishman reply :
I have to replace a low profile Abu Silver Max that I lost, another story for another day. So I was looking at specs on different reels and found the Abu Garcia 4600 C4 retrieves 30" per turn and the low profile reels with same ratio return 27" of line per turn. Also the max drag on the 4600 C4 is 30lbs vs 18lbs for the low profile reels form Abu in the same price range. Thinking replacing the lost Silver Max with a 4600 C4. What are your thoughts.
islandbass reply :
Round reels are cool and awesome. With that said, they will stand “taller” on the rod so for smaller hands they might not be a “palmable” if that is even a word. Other than that, go for it. You might want to bring your rod to the store your plan to buy it to see how it will work for you.
B-Dozer reply :
I have mostly round baitcasters. Abu C-5, C-4 Mag(2). Cabela's round Prodigy(5), Abu Record 40
A few low profiles. I prefer the round ones, JMO
BassWhole! reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:05 PM, kjfishman said:I have to replace a low profile Abu Silver Max that I lost, another story for another day. So I was looking at specs on different reels and found the Abu Garcia 4600 C4 retrieves 30" per turn and the low profile reels with same ratio return 27" of line per turn. Also the max drag on the 4600 C4 is 30lbs vs 18lbs for the low profile reels form Abu in the same price range. Thinking replacing the lost Silver Max with a 4600 C4. What are your thoughts.
I throw spinnerbaits with 4600's sometimes. Good reels, as long as you aren't trying to cast tiny light lures. I find it easy to palm, even though they do sit higher on the rod.
islandbass reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:37 PM, reason said:I throw spinnerbaits with 4600's sometimes. Good reels, as long as you aren't trying to cast tiny light lures. I find it easy to palm, even though they do sit higher on the rod.
True in general about lighter lures. Good point!
B-Dozer reply :
I have a 6" Mann's jelly worm on one of my Cabela's Prodigy most of the time. no trouble casting that. Mag control. The Record 40 is pretty good as well
OnthePotomac reply :
This is a choice based strictly on personal preference. As far as speed, many low profile reels come in pretty fast speeds. My Curado K's are 8.5:1 (36in retrieve) and there are reels faster than that. I have never experienced a fish landing failure because my reel have an 11-12lb drag max. On occasion, big cats have tested this on the Potomac, but not caught by my choice.
B-Dozer reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:51 PM, OnthePotomac said:This is a choice based strictly on personal preference. As far as speed, many low profile reels come in pretty fast speeds. My Curado K's are 8.5:1 and there are reels faster than that. I have never experienced a fish landing failure because my reel have an 11-12lb drag max. On occasion, big cats have tested this on the Potomac, but no caught by my choice.
This is true. I do not claim one is better than the other, it's just what you are used to, or started out on.
OnthePotomac reply :
Oh, I agree 100% and not promoting one over the other.
BassWhole! reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:50 PM, B-Dozer said:I have a 6" Mann's jelly worm on one of my Cabela's Prodigy most of the time. no trouble casting that. Mag control. The Record 40 is pretty good as well
I still have a couple of bags of the original jelly worms, that purple is timeless. I've abused some Records in the salt, great reels for sure.
B-Dozer reply :
yeah those original Mann's jelly worms have done well for me, when you can find them.
My Record has a Binsky blade bait on it most of the time. Can really zing that thing a mile....well, almost ????
Mobasser reply :
I still fish 2 4600c3 round ABU reels. One is over 20 yrs old. They are workhorse reels. If taken care of well, they will last a long time. At some point I'll need an upgrade, and I will probably go with a round Shimano reel. I like round casting reels the best, and don't really care for mag brakes too much either. I think the C4 would make a nice reel
NYWayfarer reply :
I like my round reels for Saltwater and Catfishing. Low profiles are my go to’s for freshwater Bass fishing.
jbrew73 reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 6:01 AM, NYWayfarer said:I like my round reels for Saltwater and Catfishing. Low profiles are my go to’s for freshwater Bass fishing.
This
B-Dozer reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 5:52 AM, Mobasser said:I still fish 2 4600c3 round ABU reels. One is over 20 yrs old. They are workhorse reels. If taken care of well, they will last a long time. At some point I'll need an upgrade, and I will probably go with a round Shimano reel. I like round casting reels the best, and don't really care for mag brakes too much either. I think the C4 would make a nice reel
The Cabela Prodigy round reel mag brakes work better than the Abu. JMO
As far as the Abu's
You'll never need to upgrade ???? This place has stock, and better than stock bearings.
https://www.bocabearings.com/parts/Abu-Garcia
islandbass reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 6:01 AM, NYWayfarer said:I like my round reels for Saltwater and Catfishing. Low profiles are my go to’s for freshwater Bass fishing.
Yup, rounds for the salt. I have my abu g ambassadeur and Shimano Cardiff 301a.
because my Cardiff has a 5 point something ratio, I have used it ocassion when fishing crankbaits.
LionHeart reply :
I only own one round reel. It's a Shimano Calcutta. Nice reel, but I prefer low profile personally.
Catt reply :
Calcutta 100A 2 ea., Calcutta 50A 1 ea., & Cardiff 100A 2 ea.
Got a friend who only uses Garcia 5500s for everything including Wacky Rigs.
A-Jay reply :
I have & fish both low profile & rounds casting reels.
I really do like my Callcutta D's quite a bit, often looking for an excuse use them.
Doesn't take much.
A-Jay
Mobasser reply :
A-jay and Catt. I started with the 5500c and red ABU 5000. Then went to the narrow spool 4600c. The Calcutta will be my next reel purchase. They really seem like the top of the line for this type of casting reel
A-Jay reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 9:52 AM, Mobasser said:A-jay and Catt. I started with the 5500c and red ABU 5000. Then went to the narrow spool 4600c. The Calcutta will be my next reel purchase. They really seem like the top of the line for this type of casting reel
Soon after their release, I participated in the TW demo program with the Calcutta 200D and 300D
Ended up purchasing a few.
A-Jay
Catt reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 9:52 AM, Mobasser said:A-jay and Catt. I started with the 5500c and red ABU 5000. Then went to the narrow spool 4600c. The Calcutta will be my next reel purchase. They really seem like the top of the line for this type of casting reel
I started with ????
I do have a Citica 200E & a Lew's LFS Speed Spool
Mobasser reply :
Catt, when my brother came home from the service in 1970,he bought 2 red ABU 5000 reels, and gave me one.I still have mine, and it still works.My brother gave his to a friend who came home from the war in bad shape. He simply loved that reel- kept it super clean and was so proud of it. As far as I know, he still has that one too
Boogey Man reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:05 PM, kjfishman said:I have to replace a low profile Abu Silver Max that I lost, another story for another day. So I was looking at specs on different reels and found the Abu Garcia 4600 C4 retrieves 30" per turn and the low profile reels with same ratio return 27" of line per turn. Also the max drag on the 4600 C4 is 30lbs vs 18lbs for the low profile reels form Abu in the same price range. Thinking replacing the lost Silver Max with a 4600 C4. What are your thoughts.
I wouldn't get too hung up on the drag specs, unless you're catching 18 to 30lb bass. I'd go to your local tackle shop, mount both on a rod and see which one feels best in your hands. The 4600 will most likely be the more durable, longer lasting of the two, but sits pretty tall on the reel seat and weighs a good deal more.
Catt reply :
@Mobasser I started out bass fishing with a Penn 209M, 3.2:1 gear ratio, weight 19 oz; I was a saltwater guy.
My first bass fishing setup
Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5000 (red)
Heddon Mark Special Purpose #6271 5 1/2' MH Fiberglass with a cast aluminum reel seat & handle.
Total weight about 2# plus!
That what I started tournament fishing with ????
B-Dozer reply :
An Abu Record is one looong casting reel. My Record 40 is the best caster with 1/4 and up lures.
I'm sure some of the newer reels are just fine, Lews and others, just never felt the need to try them.
Mobasser reply :
Catt, the reels my brother bought look almost the same as yours.He could already cast pretty well, but I spent more time picking out backlashes than fishing.I couldn't even use mine unless the cast control knob was tightened too much,which gave me no distance. After practicing, I gradually loosened the control, and got the hang of thumbing these reels.Because no thumbar, my brother developed a style of two handed casting, with the reel almost free spool setting. He got dead on accurate casting this way.How things have changed! Most young guys would consider them an antique now but at that time they were probably the best available.And, I'm sure they will still catch fish too
Bankbeater reply :
I have a 5500, and two 5600s. One 5600 is 15 years old and the other two are around 25 or so. Over the years I have started using low profile reels more and more. Nothing wrong with my round reels, I just like fishing with the low profiles more.
Catt reply :
@Mobasser Every couple yrs I take that 5000 to the lake just to remind me how good we have it!
I kinda chuckle everytime I read guys complaining about how difficult new reels are to setup!
B-Dozer reply :
The "set up" is in the thumb. After a bit, you don't even need to think about it.
Mobasser reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 9:38 PM, Catt said:@Mobasser Every couple yrs I take that 5000 to the lake just to remind me how good we have it!
I kinda chuckle everytime I read guys complaining about how difficult new reels are to setup!
Yes. I think it's funny too. Most newer ones can be set up pretty quick. Not nearly as much of the learning curve there was years ago.
On 9/2/2018 at 9:42 PM, B-Dozer said:The "set up" is in the thumb. After a bit, you don't even need to think about it.
Yep. It takes a little time to learn, but once you get it down , it becomes automatic
Also , I still like mono line on my ABU reels. TrileneBig Game. I like how it handles on these reels. Don't see the need for braid/ leader setup.To me , that line seems to be made for for these reels.Plus, one knot directly to the bait.
Dwight Hottle reply :
It's important to remember that round reels were the norm before low profile reels got introduced. Round reels have a reputation for being sturdy workhorse reels that excell for heavier baits, stronger drags, greater line capacity and durability over time. Low profile reels have gained in popularity because of smaller size & shape & lower weight. Both types have a place in my arsenal.
B-Dozer reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 10:23 PM, Mobasser said:Yes. I think it's funny too. Most newer ones can be set up pretty quick. Not nearly as much of the learning curve there was years ago.
Yep. It takes a little time to learn, but once you get it down , it becomes automatic
Also , I still like mono line on my ABU reels. TrileneBig Game. I like how it handles on these reels. Don't see the need for braid/ leader setup.To me , that line seems to be made for for these reels.Plus, one knot directly to the bait.
I use Yozuri Hybred. not easy to find, but works great. spray some Van Dam line conditioner on it too
WRB reply :
30 lbs of drag shouldn't be a considered a factor for any fresh water bass reel. Ambassaduer round reels have had marginal drags since they were introduced in the late 50's to this day. Any drag over 8 lbs isn't needed IMO because there are very few fresh water bass rods that can withstand that much pulling or lifting force.
Having fished with Ambassaduer reels from 1960 to 1990 or 30 years and super tunning them by polishing noisy gears, changing poor crank handles and bushings or bearings and upgrading drag components. When Shimano came out with the Calcutta reel series my Ambassaduers went into storage.
Lew Childre invented the low profile reel in the early 70's and contracted Shimano to manufacture the BB1 reel that put Shimano in the reel business. Shimano came out with the Bantum 100 reel under license agreement using lighter weight designed changing bass fishing forever.
Round or low profile reel is a choice for each angler to choose, both perform equally, lighter weight bait casting reels are availble in low profile designs.
Tom
Angry John reply :
On 9/2/2018 at 11:31 PM, Dwight Hottle said:It's important to remember that round reels were the norm before low profile reels got introduced. Round reels have a reputation for being sturdy workhorse reels that excell for heavier baits, stronger drags, greater line capacity and durability over time. Low profile reels have gained in popularity because of smaller size & shape & lower weight. Both types have a place in my arsenal.
This..... Always a right tool for the job, and some preference mixed in. The first heavy duty low profile i remember was the revo toro which the musky crowd latched onto. Before that big baits were all done on round reels. I love my luna and ryoga for larger baits and the Ryoga makes one heck of a deep cranking reel. I only own 3 round reels but i love them for heavy stuff and dont plan on letting them go any time soon.
crypt reply :
started fishing 45 plus years ago with 5500's still use 45/4600's c3 0r c4 to this day. have 9 of em. also use low profile reels. they each have a place in my way of fishing. use round for everything but lighter presentations.
also do like the original Calcutta's. the 50 is an awesome little reel. as good as my pro/black max 1600's.
FishTank reply :
I had a C4 years ago and by my own misuse, it rusted. If I had taken care of it, it would still be working today. It was a great reel that would cast anything above 1/4oz a country mile. I use to put tape on my thumb to keep the line from smoking my fingers on long casts. On the other hand, as reels have progressed, I do like low profile reels but I think both types have their place.
Also, if I were to buy another round reel, I would probably get a Shimano Calcutta again. Not to say that the C4 is not a great reel, I have liked the Calcutta 251 I purchased years ago better.
B-Dozer reply :
Round, Round, I get a round.... ????
redmeansdistortion reply :
I love my round reels. I do own a few low profiles, but they don't see nearly the usage my rounds get. I have a 4600 C3, 4600 C5, 5600CL Rocket, 5600 AB, and a 6500CS Rocket. The 4600 reels are primarily used for bass while the 5600s and 6500 are used for pike, musky, salmon, and steelhead.
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