Do you ever use your technique specific rods for other than specified technique? Say, throw a spinnerbait with a jig and worm rod.
Hootie
Don't know how this got posted twice.
They are just suggestions. I throw everything on my 723. A Dobyns 734 lists all types of things to throw. Buzzbaits,spinnerbaits,jigs,worms,ect. If there wasn't anything on it,what would you throw with it? The answer is whatever you want to.
On 10/26/2014 at 3:23 PM, rippin-lips said:They are just suggestions. I throw everything on my 723. A Dobyns 734 lists all types of things to throw. Buzzbaits,spinnerbaits,jigs,worms,ect. If there wasn't anything on it,what would you throw with it? The answer is whatever you want to.
I agree, seems technique specific is kind of silly.
Hootie
I do have a couple of "universal" rods that get almost anything. But I have a couple of rods that I wouldn't throw just anything on; those are my glass cranking rods. I couldn't imagine trying to set the hook on a jig with my glass stick!
So I would say that most graphite/composite rods could be used for almost anything but some, like a glass rod, may be limited in use.
I don't think I have a rod that is technique specific. Seem to remember someone posting about the Diawa X Dropshot rod (think that is the correct model), and they felt is was a great rod, but only for that technique. I did buy my first crankbait rod last winter, and probably won't use it for anything else. My other rods get used for whatever I feel like throwing. Even the rod that was advertised as being for Senkos and Fat Ikas.
I like fishing jerkbaits on jig rods. Let me know if I understood the question!
On 10/26/2014 at 8:45 PM, deep said:I like fishing jerkbaits on jig rods. Let me know if I understood the question!
Yes, that was the question. Thinking back, I think I may have posted this question before.
Oh well, if I did....round two...lol.
Hootie
Most of my technique specific rods are used for something other than the technique listed on the rod. It's just a way for rod manufacturers to get you to buy more rods. If it feels right use it.
Jig and worm rods have been presentation specific since tournament bass fishing became popular.
General use "medium heavy" bait casting rods were used for everything else, including deep diving lures we now call crank baits.
My "crank bait" rod dates back to the 70's before trigger sticks become popular, a 7' Fenwick glass salt water popping rod blank. Split shot rod in the 80's was a 6'6" medium fast action spinning rod and reel combo to be able to cast light weight soft plastics using 6 lb mono.
Swimbait rods for the larger size 2 to 5 oz swimmers are application specific, you can use a swimbait rod for A-rigs, not much else.
It's really the specialized lures that created the demand for application specific rods and reels.
You can still use a general use MH bass rod for a wide variety of bass lures, difficult to cast 1/8 soft plastics or 4 oz swimbaits with 12 lb mono.
Tom
I throw spinnerbaits on my crankbait rod, or my worm/jig rod. And sometimes I throw crankbaits on my weightless plastics rod. So, yeah, I throw all kinds of stuff on my fishing rods.
I don't own any rods with labels on them but if I did I would still use the rod for anything I thought it would be good for.
Med heavy spinning rods for everything because thats all i own. Only been fishing for a year now and its all i know so i suppose i dont know what im missing out on when it comes to technique specific rods. I still catch fish and have a good time while im at it so thats all i need. Will i upgrade my arsenal? Absolutely in due time!
Technique specific is nothing more than a marketing term.
On 10/27/2014 at 5:52 AM, Tywithay said:Technique specific is nothing more than a marketing term.
You are invited to fish lake Baccarac, what rods are you going to take?
Tom
I have done that. I spent the month of Sept dragging big tubes for smallies with a rod labeled "jerkbait/topwater". Worked great!
The same ones I'd take to fish locally.
I've been there, pool cue power and action.On 10/27/2014 at 7:00 AM, WRB said:You are invited to fish lake Baccarac, what rods are you going to take?
Tom
I fished a craw on a worm rod once.
On 10/27/2014 at 8:31 AM, OntarioFishingGuy said:I fished a craw on a worm rod once.
That's terrible! How dare you.....I have done a lot of bad things but not THAT!
On 10/27/2014 at 7:02 AM, Jeff H said:I have done that. I spent the month of Sept dragging big tubes for smallies with a rod labeled "jerkbait/topwater". Worked great!
Was it a St Croix? I don't know why they call that extra fast action a "jerkbait/topwater" rod, I like a moderate or moderate-fast for jerkbaits and topwaters. The extra-fast action is more suited to jigs and plastics IMO.
A Worm and Jig, Tube rod is basically as do any thing rod. The whole thing with technique specific rods is that there are many other variables. They don't account for the type of line your using or the cover your fishing or the resistance a specific bait has ect. I open water fishing moving like hollow bellies or swimjigs chatter baits whatever where I dont need the tip to pop a bait like in grass a glass rod cant be beat and I will use that all day. When I am fishing through all the grass and nonsense in places around here It is a M/H F that would be considered a worm/jig or maybe spinner bait rod. Everyone likes different stuff anyways and it is basically personal preference and I think varies greatly on where and how you fish.
Yep lots of people do. I use a mh/f rod for swimjigs to lipless cranks and it works well. Most single hook lures will wokr good with one type of rod unless you are super picky and want to buy several rods for each type of lure.What do you fish mostly?
On 10/26/2014 at 6:32 PM, Smokinal said:I do have a couple of "universal" rods that get almost anything. But I have a couple of rods that I wouldn't throw just anything on; those are my glass cranking rods. I couldn't imagine trying to set the hook on a jig with my glass stick!
So I would say that most graphite/composite rods could be used for almost anything but some, like a glass rod, may be limited in use.
Really you should be able to set the hook just fine on a jig with a glass rod. As long as your drag is set right and your hooks are sharp you should be able to just reel down and lean back on it and stick them without much issue. Unless maybe your fishing super deep or your line has a ton of stretch or the jig has a tuna hook like I think its the hack attack jigs that do I think. The only reason it isn't very viable to me is because of the pop you kind of need when fishing a jig. They make punching rods that have that slow parabolic bend so you can just lean back on it and not rip on the fish so you end up with a clean hook set and don't tear them. They are rated much heavier then your cranking stick im sure unless its one for deep divers. It is basically the same thing almost and if you think about it they are punching with maybe 1.5oz and your cranking with 1/2oz and there rod is probably rated for 3x the weight and there hooks are 3x as thick so it probably almost evens out. Really I don't know why more people don't use a glass or composite rod for things other then crankbaits especially on anyhting that is constantly moving. As long as you have your line and drag set to what you need it is the same thing as why you would want to use that for a crankbait.
One fall day last year the only fish I caught was on a Colorado Spinnerbait. I was flipping the spinnerbait. With my crankbait rod. Don't judge me.
On 10/27/2014 at 11:20 AM, wisconsin heat said:One fall day last year the only fish I caught was on a Colorado Spinnerbait. I was flipping the spinnerbait. With my crankbait rod. Don't judge me.
Now THAT is way off the track!
Nobody is judging here....heck, that's cool and booted the skunk out too!
On 10/27/2014 at 8:48 AM, BasshunterJGH said:Was it a St Croix? I don't know why they call that extra fast action a "jerkbait/topwater" rod, I like a moderate or moderate-fast for jerkbaits and topwaters. The extra-fast action is more suited to jigs and plastics IMO.
No sir, it was a Cabela's Tournament ZX 6'9" M. It is a MH though in my opinion. i actually liked the rod for what I was doing with it. It would not be a very good rod for what they labeled it for. Still, I liked the rod. Most of my rods are St.Croix Avids, I know their XF actions very well and love them! The Tourney ZX is stiffer than those. My favorite jerkbait rod in all the world is the AVC62MXF.
On 10/27/2014 at 8:48 AM, BasshunterJGH said:Was it a St Croix? I don't know why they call that extra fast action a "jerkbait/topwater" rod, I like a moderate or moderate-fast for jerkbaits and topwaters. The extra-fast action is more suited to jigs and plastics IMO.
I fish my jerks with an XF/M Avid. The faster tip makes it possible for me to make a bait dance and really move like I want it to. Same goes for poppers and small walking baits that are tough to work on other rods. I can make a small popper walk and spit at the same time with it, which is a big trigger at times.
On 10/27/2014 at 11:20 AM, wisconsin heat said:One fall day last year the only fish I caught was on a Colorado Spinnerbait. I was flipping the spinnerbait. With my crankbait rod. Don't judge me.
The only possible law broken that I can see, " YOU ACTUALLY USED A COLORADO BLADE IN WISCONSIN"???
Would not want to be in your shoes when the authorities in Colorado get wind of this.
You have been judged.
Hootie
I use my Mojo Bass Spinnerbait rod for Texas rigs and jigs. Thing is such a broom stick I could shoot some pool with it.
About the only technique labeled rod that I own that is actually that specific is a Loomis JWR 803. I thought it might double as a jerkbait rod. Nope, not in a million years. Despite being a medium to MH power, x-fast taper, it absolutely sucked at jerkbaits. My Avid AVC68MXF and AC62MXF are far superior for this. Otherwise, the labels mean nothing to me.
On 10/26/2014 at 3:27 PM, *Hootie said:I agree, seems technique specific is kind of silly.
Hootie
Not silly, just fun to have the PERFECT set-up for a given technique.
That said, you really only NEED three rods.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/130634-rod-selection-the-basics/
On 10/28/2014 at 5:42 AM, roadwarrior said:Not silly, just fun to have the PERFECT set-up for a given technique.
That said, you really only NEED three rods.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/130634-rod-selection-the-basics/
Only three!?!?...that gives me way too many to have to get rid of...lol.
And yes, it is a lot of FUN.
Hootie
Of course I do. I generally take two baitcast setups and a spinning rig when I fish because I've only been serious about fishing for the last two or three seasons and tend to experiment a lot, 'just to see what happens' . At some point, when I get a whole day off (!?!?!?!?!) I plan on taking all my rods & reels and cast every possible combination with a T-Rig, Senko, Rapala, and a spinner bait or two to fine tune my collection (read: keep me too busy to buy more.)
Besides, if I bought every setup I decide I 'need' from reading this forum, I'd need a bigger garage. Not because of the additional rods, but because I couldn't sleep in my wife's Wrangler when she boots me out of the BIG BED....
On 10/27/2014 at 5:51 PM, *Hootie said:The only possible law broken that I can see, " YOU ACTUALLY USED A COLORADO BLADE IN WISCONSIN"???
Would not want to be in your shoes when the authorities in Colorado get wind of this.
You have been judged.
Hootie
Crap. Looks like I'm an outlaw on the run again. What is the penalty for pairing a colorado and Indiana on the same shaft? That is probably pretty severe, no?
On 10/28/2014 at 9:39 AM, Jeff H said:Crap. Looks like I'm an outlaw on the run again. What is the penalty for pairing a colorado and Indiana on the same shaft? That is probably pretty severe, no?
OH!!!....you guys are in so much trouble....lol.
Hootie
I bought a crankbait rod 2 years ago and have thrown nothing but jerkbaits on it. Keeps trebles pinned very well, gotta love the 704cb. Haven't tied a crank on it to this day.
Now for throwing cranks, like little cotton cordels, I am using a "shakeyhead" crucial. Does it work for shakeyheads? Yep, but I use my 703 champ more....you get the idea... like many topics in the forums, it really comes down to preference.
I also use a mh crankbait rod with a 6.8:1 reel for worms a lot. Works fine I actually really like the moderate fast action for senkos. And the 6.8:1 gear ratio lews makes a good cross-over reel for crankbaits and worms.
I have a medium action Berkley rod (can't remember the model) which, if I recall correctly, says something to the effect of "Wormin' rod" on the handle. It's nearly ideal for crankbaits and spinnerbait rod but it's definitely not perfect for worming or jigs. If I had forgotten everything else at home, would I still use it as a worming rod? Of course. I'm not about to go home. It just isn't ideal. I usually carry 4 or 5 rods with me. I try to have at least one rod for worms and jigs and one for crankbaits and such. The rest (redundants) I carry simply so I don't have to retie all the time.
Well, I like to be close at least. Throwing a 1/2 spinnerbait on a medium fast action rod isn't a lot of fun lol
Then again a drop shot with an 1/8 weight on a MH action rod and a 5.4:1 gear ratio reel isn't either.
But do I really worry between spinnerbait rods/reels vs crankbait or texas rig? Nah