How to cast a light bait further? 2024
bma3 reply :
This is a big thing for me cause I fish a lot with lighter baits but can't seem to figure out how to cast them further. I also wanna know how to cast any bait further in general.
I am using a 7ft medium heavy fast action rod and a Shimano Curado 201HG reel (7:2:1)
2tall79 reply :
Switch to spinning and lighter line
TheCastaMasta reply :
how do you feel about using a spinning reel? this will get your lightweight bait out to the distance you want. if not, try a longer rod to increase your distance. make sure during your cast that you are maximizing the usage of rod bend and "whip". also, having your tension knob and break set to the proper settings for the type of bait you are using are esssential. im sure someone here more knowledgeable than I can help you in that department!
hunterPRO1 reply :
spinning rods cast light lures farther, easier.
lighter line does the same.
RoLo reply :
"How To Cast A Light Bait Farther"
> Longer Rod
> Lighter Line
> Lighter Rod Power (ultralight spinning gear can handle 2-lb line)
> Slower Tip Action (e.g. moderate fast)
> Cast Downwind 
Roger
bma3 reply :
On 2/2/2017 at 1:08 PM, TheCastaMasta said:how do you feel about using a spinning reel? this will get your lightweight bait out to the distance you want. if not, try a longer rod to increase your distance. make sure during your cast that you are maximizing the usage of rod bend and "whip". also, having your tension knob and break set to the proper settings for the type of bait you are using are esssential. im sure someone here more knowledgeable than I can help you in that department!
still trying to figure out the breaking system and tension knob. Have any tips?
TheCastaMasta reply :
On 2/2/2017 at 1:28 PM, bma3 said:still trying to figure out the breaking system and tension knob. Have any tips?
a while back when I first got into baitcasters, someone at a convention told me to set the tension knob correctly you must:
- have your bait tied on and about 1 ft from the end of your rod tip
- tighten your tension knob all the way
- loosen the tension knob slowly
- when the bait begins to slowly descend, you have it set correctly
that is what i was told and that is what I have done! im sure other people have different methods / thoughts.
note: if you are looking for a longer cast, a little bit looser than the point found in step 4 might be needed.
for the braking....i always just turn mine off unless I am casting into the wind. someone else will have to give you a good answer on this.
gobig reply :
One word metanium
frogflogger reply :
The simplest way is to let out more line - for long casts I will sometimes have the lure dangling 1/2 the rod length - which has the effect of a longer rod - and the force you can create will give you more distance - also clean and lightly oil your spool bearings regularly.
12poundbass reply :
On 2/2/2017 at 1:35 PM, TheCastaMasta said:
a while back when I first got into baitcasters, someone at a convention told me to set the tension knob correctly you must:
- have your bait tied on and about 1 ft from the end of your rod tip
- tighten your tension knob all the way
- loosen the tension knob slowly
- when the bait begins to slowly descend, you have it set correctly
that is what i was told and that is what I have done! im sure other people have different methods / thoughts.
note: if you are looking for a longer cast, a little bit looser than the point found in step 4 might be needed.
for the braking....i always just turn mine off unless I am casting into the wind. someone else will have to give you a good answer on this.
The way I set mine up is similar to you. I read and it's worked for me...
losen the tension knob enough that the lure descends to the floor just enough that when it hits the floor the spool stops without letting out more line. I'd go with one of these two methods and adjust from there as you get more comfortable with how your lure casts.
scaleface reply :
I add sections of stick worms { senko type } to small spinnerbaits , jigs , Roadrunners .. to get them to cast easier with bait casting gear .
WRB reply :
On 2/2/2017 at 12:40 PM, bma3 said:This is a big thing for me cause I fish a lot with lighter baits but can't seem to figure out how to cast them further. I also wanna know how to cast any bait further in general.
I am using a 7ft medium heavy fast action rod and a Shimano Curado 201HG reel (7:2:1)
Any lure? There is a weight limit your baitcasting reel and MH F rod can perform ideally with. What are the lures you want to cast over 35 to 40 yards with?
Tom
Alonerankin2 reply :
What is your definition of light weight baits? I can throw a 1/8 pretty far on that rig..3/8 a country mile. What are your brake settings on? What line are you using?
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 2:04 AM, Alonerankin2 said:What is your definition of light weight baits? I can throw a 1/8 pretty far on that rig..3/8 a country mile. What are your brake settings on? What line are you using?
Right now I keep 2 brakes on but thinking of turning them both off. I'm using 20lb braid.
RoweBoatRVA reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 1:10 AM, WRB said:Any lure? There is a weight limit your baitcasting reel and MH F rod can perform ideally with. What are the lures you want to cast over 35 to 40 yards with?
Tom
@WRB makes a good point. What lure are you trying to cast and what size? Some lures are much more aerodynamic than others.
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 5:29 AM, RoweBoatRVA said:
@WRB makes a good point. What lure are you trying to cast and what size? Some lures are much more aerodynamic than others.
I'm mostly casting jigs, senkos, and crankbaits with the everything else occasionally.
RoweBoatRVA reply :
Crankbaits and jigs shouldnt be a problem casting far with the right line and settings. Senkos, especially weightless or wacky, are more difficult (but still not bad) with a baitcaster over a spinning setup.
How heavy are the lures you are throwing?
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 5:39 AM, RoweBoatRVA said:Crankbaits and jigs shouldnt be a problem casting far with the right line and settings. Senkos, especially weightless or wacky, are more difficult (but still not bad) with a baitcaster over a spinning setup.
How heavy are the lures you are throwing?
Jigs are 3/8oz to 3/4oz, maybe 1oz very rarely. You know the weight of senkos and all that. Idk about crankbaits though.
smr913 reply :
You got other problems going on here.
TheCastaMasta reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 5:44 AM, bma3 said:Jigs are 3/8oz to 3/4oz, maybe 1oz very rarely. You know the weight of senkos and all that. Idk about crankbaits though.
Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?
bigfruits reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 7:03 AM, TheCastaMasta said:
what is your definition of a far cast?
^^
do you have the same problem casting these weights on spinning?
is your MH/F actually an XF jig/worm rod?
you shouldnt have to turn all of your brakes off. try half on half off
are you using too much thumb because of overruns? - tighten tension
not using much thumb and cant cast far? - loosen tension
practice in the yard. dont waste your time on the water.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 7:03 AM, TheCastaMasta said:
Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?
Second this. You've gotten good advice, but those weights shouldn't be a problem getting good distance with that combo unless you are one of those guys expecting 80-100 yard casts to be the norm. Generally I figure 45 yards is a good cast for me with 35-40 yards being the norm. The right lure/reel/rod can increase that distance. I figure it is the rod and lure that play the biggest part. I've made longer casts with several rod and reel combos. One being a 7'2" MH-XF with a Chronarch 100B and 12# Siege. The Endurance 723C is one XF casting rod that delivers long casts.
I run centrifugal brakes with 3 on. It gives me more worry-free casting than 2 on. My thumb probably never will be able to handle zero brakes. Still.....I seldom complain about lack of distance, and I figure most of these guys can cast rings around me. 
Wayne P. reply :
Since no one has mentioned it yet, use fluorocarbon line. It weights more and will give you more distance after you get your reel adjusted properly.
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 7:03 AM, TheCastaMasta said:
Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?
I know I shouldn't be having a problem but I feel like I can't get them more than like 20 yards whereas I've seen other people cast them much further.
On 2/3/2017 at 9:48 AM, new2BC4bass said:
Second this. You've gotten good advice, but those weights shouldn't be a problem getting good distance with that combo unless you are one of those guys expecting 80-100 yard casts to be the norm. Generally I figure 45 yards is a good cast for me with 35-40 yards being the norm. The right lure/reel/rod can increase that distance. I figure it is the rod and lure that play the biggest part. I've made longer casts with several rod and reel combos. One being a 7'2" MH-XF with a Chronarch 100B and 12# Siege. The Endurance 723C is one XF casting rod that delivers long casts.
I run centrifugal brakes with 3 on. It gives me more worry-free casting than 2 on. My thumb probably never will be able to handle zero brakes. Still.....I seldom complain about lack of distance, and I figure most of these guys can cast rings around me.
I personally think my problem is that I keep my thumb on the line when I cast a lot because of scared of birds nest. Braking and everything also come into play but I think I just found my answer.
TheCastaMasta reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 11:05 AM, bma3 said:I know I shouldn't be having a problem but I feel like I can't get them more than like 20 yards whereas I've seen other people cast them much further.
I personally think my problem is that I keep my thumb on the line when I cast a lot because of scared of birds nest. Braking and everything also come into play but I think I just found my answer.
Practice and let us know how it goes!
WRB reply :
With the rod/reel combo you have casting 40+ yards with a 1/2 oz jig should be easy.
You are the problem! 20 yards I'd only 60' and should be able to cast a 1/8 oz lure that far with your tackle.
Don't worry about backlashes, learn how to remove them without picking out loops.
1. Pull off about 50 yards of braid and tape over the balance of the lone on the spool with plumbers Teflon tape, then wind the balance back on the reel...do not cut the line!
2. Keep the reel adjusted like it is with 2 breaks.
3. Adjust the end cap tension so the lure drop and hits the ground with the spool stopping and not over spinning.
4. Cast and raise your thumb so it S doesn't touch the spool until the last 10 yards or so when you start to feel the line loosening, then very lightly touch the turning spool. Practice the timing until you can cast 40 yards with a 1/2 oz jig.
5. If you backlash, slowly pull out the loose line until it hits a loop, then stop. Put your thumb on the spooled line snugly and wind on all the line over the backlash. Now slowly pull off the line dropping it into the water until you are past all the loops. Wind the line back onto to the reel using some tension using your fingers. Backlash is gone.
Tom
PS, use 30 lb braid with a baitcaster!
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 12:31 PM, WRB said:With the rod/reel combo you have casting 40+ yards with a 1/2 oz jig should be easy.
You are the problem! 20 yards I'd only 60' and should be able to cast a 1/8 oz lure that far with your tackle.
Don't worry about backlashes, learn how to remove them without picking out loops.
1. Pull off about 50 yards of braid and tape over the balance of the lone on the spool with plumbers Teflon tape, then wind the balance back on the reel...do not cut the line!
2. Keep the reel adjusted like it is with 2 breaks.
3. Adjust the end cap tension so the lure drop and hits the ground with the spool stopping and not over spinning.
4. Cast and raise your thumb so it S doesn't touch the spool until the last 10 yards or so when you start to feel the line loosening, then very lightly touch the turning spool. Practice the timing until you can cast 40 yards with a 1/2 oz jig.
5. If you backlash, slowly pull out the loose line until it hits a loop, then stop. Put your thumb on the spooled line snugly and wind on all the line over the backlash. Now slowly pull off the line dropping it into the water until you are past all the loops. Wind the line back onto to the reel using some tension using your fingers. Backlash is gone.
Tom
PS, use 30 lb braid with a baitcaster!
What is the reason for the first step? Should I respool completely?
new2BC4bass reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 1:58 PM, bma3 said:What is the reason for the first step? Should I respool completely?
Do not respool. I'm sure you have discovered a backlash (or even an over-run) can cause the line to be loose all the way down to the spool. Tape keeps the line from loosening any further than where you put it on. Makes a backlash about impossible to get. There are still times I have to pull all the line off to get rid of loops.
I know people use 20# braid (and sometimes lighter) on a baitcast reel, but you risk the possibility of it digging in. That stops a cast like "right now". A side effect is the possibility of losing your lure. I have snapped a new 1/2 oz. jig off using 30# braid on a spinning reel when the line wrapped around the tip and I failed to notice. When I first looked into using braid a few years ago the consensus was 40# minimum. That is what I put on my baitcast reel the first time I used braid. Never had a problem with it.
bma3 reply :
On 2/3/2017 at 8:08 AM, bigfruits said:^^
do you have the same problem casting these weights on spinning?
is your MH/F actually an XF jig/worm rod?
you shouldnt have to turn all of your brakes off. try half on half off
are you using too much thumb because of overruns? - tighten tension
not using much thumb and cant cast far? - loosen tension
practice in the yard. dont waste your time on the water.
still having a lot of trouble casting any distance whatsoever, even with a jig. I have 2 breaks on and the tension is set the way you guys have told me. Couldn't cast more than 15 yards today. Any ideas?
lmbfisherman reply :
Ok, maybe I missed something but what is the lure rating on your rod? and what is the weight of the lure you are using? Your rod lure rating and power/action is the most important part of the equation in my experience.
bma3 reply :
On 2/6/2017 at 11:13 PM, lmbfisherman said:Ok, maybe I missed something but what is the lure rating on your rod? and what is the weight of the lure you are using? Your rod lure rating and power/action is the most important part of the equation in my experience.
My lure rating is 1/4oz to 3/4oz I believe. I am using mostly the same weights. I will occasionally throw something slightly lighter but it is rare.
lmbfisherman reply :
What is the rod brand? I don't recall seeing it. Anyway, in general you want to stay within that range but optimally the mid range is usually the sweet spot. Trying to cast anything lighter with that setup is going to be bad, you will need a lighter powered rod.
I'd recommend seeing you are new (going by what you're asking here) that you get a spinning rod combo for lighter lures (Medium Power). Your current rod will not handle light lures. Usually my MH rods I do not like to go close to minimum weight as they are usually too stiff to load the rod. My suggestion if you want to do it on a baitcaster would be to get a lighter power rod that can handle lighter lures. But usually that would be a costly venture as the reel would need be able to handle it too.
I'm also getting a sense that you want to just use one combo, which isn't a bad thing it just means you will be limited and will always have trouble going lighter period. My advice is stick closer to the 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz lures for your lightest.
bma3 reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:10 AM, lmbfisherman said:What is the rod brand? I don't recall seeing it. Anyway, in general you want to stay within that range but optimally the mid range is usually the sweet spot. Trying to cast anything lighter with that setup is going to be bad, you will need a lighter powered rod.
I'd recommend seeing you are new (going by what you're asking here) that you get a spinning rod combo for lighter lures (Medium Power). Your current rod will not handle light lures. Usually my MH rods I do not like to go close to minimum weight as they are usually too stiff to load the rod. My suggestion if you want to do it on a baitcaster would be to get a lighter power rod that can handle lighter lures. But usually that would be a costly venture as the reel would need be able to handle it too.
I'm also getting a sense that you want to just use one combo, which isn't a bad thing it just means you will be limited and will always have trouble going lighter period. My advice is stick closer to the 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz lures for your lightest.
I have dobyns 703c med heavy. I'm thinking of buying a spinning combo to go with my current combo that way I have the ability to cast light lures as well as the jigs and senkos im already throwing. Good or Bad idea? I really enjoy the combo I have right now, but for heavy baits.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:30 AM, bma3 said:I have dobyns 703c med heavy. I'm thinking of buying a spinning combo to go with my current combo that way I have the ability to cast light lures as well as the jigs and senkos im already throwing. Good or Bad idea?
Good idea, that will solve your light bait issues.
bma3 reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:31 AM, lmbfisherman said:Good idea, that will solve your light bait issues.
My current combo is good for senkos and jigs right?
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:31 AM, bma3 said:My current combo is good for senkos and jigs right?
I would use 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz jigs on your current rig. As for a senko, if you are talking weightless or weighted? If weightless I wouldn't go below a 5" senko. If you are adding 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz weight than you can use a smaller senko.
bma3 reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:35 AM, lmbfisherman said:I would use 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz jigs on your current rig. As for a senko, if you are talking weightless or weighted? If weightless I wouldn't go below a 5" senko. If you are adding 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz weight than you can use a smaller senko.
I'm using mostly lightly weighted or unweighted 6-inch senkos.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:44 AM, bma3 said:I'm using mostly lightly weighted or unweighted 6-inch senkos.
Yes 6" weightless definitely fine. Good luck with finding a new Spinning Combo!
bma3 reply :
On 2/7/2017 at 2:51 AM, lmbfisherman said:Yes 6" weightless definitely fine. Good luck with finding a new Spinning Combo!
Thanks! Looking at maybe a stratic. Any suggestions for rod/reels?
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