Daiwa Tatula Xt Casting Rod 2024
kingmotorboat reply :
Just saw these on tw anyone know the difference other than price?
Penguino reply :
Guides dropped from Alconite to AO
kingmotorboat reply :
That's it I love my tatula rod but I think I.May get one cause if it's offering same performance at 50 dollars cheaper man I'll be a happy camper
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:08 AM, Penguino said:Guides dropped from Alconite to AO
How big of a performance change would it make
Jrob78 reply :
Different blanks, different guides, different reel seat, it's basically a completely different rod. The regular Tatula rods are really nice for the price, I'm sure these are too and I'm sure the actions and powers are similar, but other than that, they are completely different.
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:42 AM, Jrob78 said:Different blanks, different guides, different reel seat, it's basically a completely different rod. The regular Tatula rods are really nice for the price, I'm sure these are too and I'm sure the actions and powers are similar, but other than that, they are completely different.
Are you sure it's a different blank. I just read it was the same blank
Jrob78 reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:47 AM, kingmotorboat said:Are you sure it's a different blank. I just read it was the same blank
The XT says "HVF carbon construction" and the Tat is "SVF (super high volume fiber) graphite technology." I assume the reg Tatula is a higher modulus blank. SVF is used in some of the Steez and Zillion rods.
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:51 AM, Jrob78 said:The XT says "HVF carbon construction" and the Tat is "SVF (super high volume fiber) graphite technology." I assume the reg Tatula is a higher modulus blank. SVF is used in some of the Steez and Zillion rods.
Ok now I see. Hopefully Daiwa is right about same performance. I'm really loving there newer line up with the re design aird and hopefully this tatula xt will be great at it's price range. I love my tatula rod
Jrob78 reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:56 AM, kingmotorboat said:Ok now I see. Hopefully Daiwa is right about same performance. I'm really loving there newer line up with the re design aird and hopefully this tatula xt will be great at it's price range. I love my tatula rod
I thought the Lexa rods were really nice and the Tatula rods are great, I'm sure the XT is a great rod too.
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 11:58 AM, Jrob78 said:I thought the Lexa rods were really nice and the Tatula rods are great, I'm sure the XT is a great rod too.
How was the sensitivity on.the lead rod cause it looks like this will be taking it's place
Jrob78 reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 12:00 PM, kingmotorboat said:How was the sensitivity on.the lead rod cause it looks like this will be taking it's place
I don't have one but a guy I fish with has a couple. They are well built and feel crisp. He really likes the 2 he has and definitely catches fish with them.
Montanaro reply :
Same blank, dumbed down rod.
Considering daiwa uses very similar blanks for all their rods, you are paying for the tatula name not the tatula quality
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 12:04 PM, Jrob78 said:I don't have one but a guy I fish with has a couple. They are well built and feel crisp. He really likes the 2 he has and definitely catches fish with them.
Nice I'm in market for a new jig rod so sensitivity is going to play a major role
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 12:08 PM, Montanaro said:Same blank, dumbed down rod.
Considering daiwa uses very similar blanks for all their rods, you are paying for the tatula name not the tatula quality
So if the blank is the same blank I'm sure it will perform just about the same if I'm thinking correct
kingmotorboat reply :
Thoughts from anyone else
ChrisWi reply :
It's the same blank.
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 9:24 PM, ChrisWi said:It's the same blank.
So would I expect same performance or a very similar performance at least
Penguino reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 9:24 PM, ChrisWi said:It's the same blank.
ehh... no its not. The XT has a HVF blank while the regular Tatula has a SVF blank with Zero G. Also, Alconite guides are a pretty big jump over AO guides. It will certainly be noticeable, but don't sweat it if you can't afford the Alconite guides. They just make a lot less noise than the AO guides
Jrob78 reply :
On 8/16/2015 at 12:08 PM, Montanaro said:Same blank, dumbed down rod.
Considering daiwa uses very similar blanks for all their rods, you are paying for the tatula name not the tatula quality
That doesn't even make sense.
On 8/16/2015 at 9:24 PM, ChrisWi said:It's the same blank.
No, it's not the same blank.
kingmotorboat reply :
How big of a difference is it with this other blank hopefully someone knows or mAybe dvt will show up in here
PitchinJigz reply :
I have a Lexa 7'2" ML/ F spinning rod and it's an awesome rod. Found it on sale for $50 and it's one of the best deals I've gotten.On 8/16/2015 at 12:04 PM, Jrob78 said:I don't have one but a guy I fish with has a couple. They are well built and feel crisp. He really likes the 2 he has and definitely catches fish with them.
Grantman83 reply :
Are these just the old lexa rods renamed tatula?
kingmotorboat reply :
On 8/17/2015 at 6:22 AM, Grantman83 said:Are these just the old lexa rods renamed tatula?
Not sure but they have same price point
Jrob78 reply :
That Daiwa DX-Bass Rod that is a TW exclusive sounds pretty similar as well. The only difference is it has full cork grips and an ECS reel seat. They are $139-$149.
Montanaro reply :
Paying for a 'tatula' but not even getting the components that set tatula apart. At the sub 150 price point all the blanks are very similar in terms of sensitivity, which is why it's important to get one with good guides, handles etc...you don't get that with the xt.On 8/16/2015 at 11:08 PM, Jrob78 said:That doesn't even make sense.
Jrob78 reply :
On 8/17/2015 at 8:17 AM, Montanaro said:Paying for a 'tatula' but not even getting the components that set tatula apart. At the sub 150 price point all the blanks are very similar in terms of sensitivity, which is why it's important to get one with guides guides, handles etc...you don't get that with the xt.
Yeah, the Tatula definitely has the better components.
poisonokie reply :
I don't think it's the same blank. HVF is not the same as SVF. Plus the guides aren't as good and you don't get that awesome reel seat and handle. Just get a regular Tatula. There are good deals out there. I have 3 going on 5 and haven't paid full price for any of them. As for the Lexas, I have a spinning and casting and they're both great rods, but they aren't Tatulas and I'm sure the XT models are better.
ChrisWi reply :
literally just watched a video of the guy at iCast saying same blank.On 8/16/2015 at 11:08 PM, Jrob78 said:That doesn't even make sense.
No, it's not the same blank.
Montanaro reply :
On 8/17/2015 at 1:08 PM, ChrisWi said:literally just watched a video of the guy at iCast saying same blank.
Marketing. Fooled many of us.
Grantman83 reply :
Yea, you can't really go by what they say at ICAST...I remember when the second generation Shimano Crucial came out (EVA) the rep said they were the same blank as the 1st generation Cumara. Turns out that was not the case at all and combined with lesser components you have a pretty unpopular series which was recently revamped to look and feel like the original line.
Even if the blank is the same, components can make a huge difference in terms of balance, comfort and ease of use. I would gladly pay an extra $40 for these slight improvements. Several slight improvements when combined together can have a major effect. As I mentioned before, these rods seem very similar to the Lexa line of rods which didn't sell so hot. I think they merely did some slight changes and added the Tatula name so as to capitalize on a very popular line of rods and reels. That way they still have a line of $100 rods which aren't named after a discontinued reel series in the Lexa...
kingmotorboat reply :
I've heard a few good things about the lexa rod
PitchinJigz reply :
Brent Ehrler says "same blank as the Tatula rod, different guides, and a different handle"On 8/17/2015 at 6:58 PM, Montanaro said:Marketing. Fooled many of us.
webertime reply :
Looks like the construction process of the 2 is the same (BAIS 45, blah blah) but the materials (graphite, scrim, resins) are different (SVF vs HVF).
I had heard the Tatula and Zillion have the same blank and it was the components that separated them.
kingmotorboat reply :
My biggest worry is about losing some sensitivity since it will be a plastics pitch and jig rod.
21farms reply :
On 8/18/2015 at 10:52 PM, webertime said:I had heard the Tatula and Zillion have the same blank and it was the components that separated them.
i heard the same thing so i upgraded my tatula flipping stick for the zillion flipping stick...same specs and within 0.2 ounces of each other but they feel completely different :-(
Montanaro reply :
They don't have same blanks. As I said all the daiwa rods have similar blanks but each step up has some other added feature or construction process. From tds rod to tatxt to tat to zillion to steez.
Jrob78 reply :
It's very possible that these blanks are turned on the same mandrels as the Tatula blanks, only difference is the type of material used.
kingmotorboat reply :
I guess time will tell
kingmotorboat reply :
Still on the fence
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