In my recent Crankbait rod search, I have found alot of rods being made in China, and not the U.S. With the economy the way it is I feel more strongly about buying a domestically made rod and avoiding the foreign ones. Still, it seems the "Made in USA" tag is getting harder to find, and when found, only on most manufactures high end lines.
Does where a rod is made affect your decision on purchasing it, or does functionality come over place of manufacturing?
No, not really.
Not really when buying but the All Star Graphite rods, if I remember correctly, are all made in Texas.
www.allstarrods.com
Well functionality comes first but made in USA plays a role. I am not going to pay double for it. But for me it is worth an extra 10-20% to keep that money in the states. But that doesn't mean that all my rods are American made. Just my Lamiglass, St. Croixs, and Rogues. Don't know if Loomis are US made or not. Doesn't state it one way or the other on mine.
QuoteNot really when buying but the All Star Graphite rods, if I remember correctly, are all made in Texas.
I had an Allstar made in China. Lamiglass, Allstar, and St. Croix all have low end rods made overseas.
Made in the USA plays into everything I buy. I live, breath, work and play in this country. Sending my dollar to China, Japan, Indonesia or wherever does nothing for this country. I know I can't get everything made here but I do my best to do so. Just my $0.02 worth.
QuoteWell functionality comes first but made in USA plays a role. I am not going to pay double for it. But for me it is worth an extra 10-20% to keep that money in the states. But that doesn't mean that all my rods are American made. Just my Lamiglass, St. Croixs, and Rogues. Don't know if Loomis are US made or not. Doesn't state it one way or the other on mine.
I'm not 100% sure that entry level rods are made here, but G. Loomis has always made their rods in Woodland, Washington.
QuoteI'm not 100% sure that entry level rods are made here, but G. Loomis has always made their rods in Woodland, Washington.
Thanks for the clarification. I had heard that they moved production overseas when Shimano bought them and my GLX doesn't specify.
I just found this on their website (FAQs):
3. Where are your rods built?
All of our rods and blanks are hand crafted here in Woodland, Washington.
8-)
Loomis may be made in the US but the $$$ are going to Japan, Shimano's home address.
Can't speak for the balance of the line, but GL2's (I previously owned 2) are made in china.
No, my main criteria is buying rods that I like to use and have a history of holding up for me.
QuoteNot really when buying but the All Star Graphite rods, if I remember correctly, are all made in Texas.www.allstarrods.com
I believe their newer model rods in the $100.00 mark like the ASR series are now made in china.
To answer the question it doesn't affect my decision necessarily. I'd prefer to buy American made but I'm not going to break the bank to do it.
I've never really put much into it, but all of my current rods are made in the USA (St. Croix Premiers, Avid, and Loomis IMX).
QuoteCan't speak for the balance of the line, but GL2's (I previously owned 2) are made in china.
I wasn't aware that Loomis ever made any rods outside of Washington. St. Croix has rods made overseas, but Loomis...
I don't. It would be virtually impossible to buy nothing but American fishing stuff.
funny you started this thread. I just bought St. Croix Avid instead of a crucila because I saw made in China on the Crucial.
The vast majority of my rods are Loomis or Roques and one of the reasons I've bought them is because they were made in the USA. The one chinese rod that I still buy is the BPS crankin stick, tough to turn down when they are on sale for $40 and I've been very pleased with this series. I don't buy American made all the time, but I will often pay a few dollars more when it says "made in the USA".
Yes, makes a difference to me. I'm fishing almost all Falcon rods (one Loomis 820) and love them. I think they are competitive with, if not superior to, anything in their price range. Wish I could replace the Shimano and Daiwa reels.
QuoteYes, makes a difference to me. I'm fishing almost all Falcon rods (one Loomis 820) and love them. I think they are competitive with, if not superior to, anything in their price range. Wish I could replace the Shimano and Daiwa reels.
Ardent maybe????
I just bought a St. Croix...so Go USA! I'm pretty sure it's made in the US...
I'm more concerned with keeping money in my wallet at the point. I don't care what country it's made in.
It makes zero difference to me. I work hard for my money, and buy the best product regardless of origin. The rest of the nation finally realized this as well, and the 'big 3' automakers were doomed.
Toyota had the single worst year, but were in better shape to begin with
after losing my manufacturing job(plant shut down went to china)and only earning 2/3rds what I made 5-10 years ago I do not buy made in china products unless I can find no alternatives. I try for made in USA, but other democratic countries with open markets like Japan or Western Europe is ok too. If we dont all start boycotting all the cheap china crap we will all be working at WalMart for $7 bucks an hour selling their products.
It's an International Market Place now. Computers,rapid transportation and modernized shipping as well as a modern communication system have the whole world in the market, Rather than bemoan it , it would do us good as a nation to figure out how to be the major player in it. It is happening whether we like it or not, we all better get used to it and learn how to work it to our advantage.
Quoteafter losing my manufacturing job(plant shut down went to china)and only earning 2/3rds what I made 5-10 years ago I do not buy made in china products unless I can find no alternatives. I try for made in USA, but other democratic countries with open markets like Japan or Western Europe is ok too. If we dont all start boycotting all the cheap china crap we will all be working at WalMart for $7 bucks an hour selling their products.
japan is not an open market at all.look at how they tax our cars that go over there.and we are stupid enough to let them in here without doing the same!!!
If at all possible MADE IN USA. No sweat shops for me. I live here,work here and I am going to insert my money back into the local economy if possible. Now if ardent could just get that new baitcaster up to par.
I just emailed Loomis and asked if all of their rods are made in the USA, and they emailed back "Yes all of our rods are made in Woodland, WA USA".
So that makes me feel better about laying out the money for a new CBR906.
QuoteI just found this on their website (FAQs):3. Where are your rods built?
All of our rods and blanks are hand crafted here in Woodland, Washington.
8-)
It's a very,very tough job trying to find just "Made in USA" in just about everything you buy.It's like trying to find a job here....almost impossible.
I find that very,very sad....because that's what's killing us right now.
That being said,i do try to buy products made in U.S. as much as i can.
I agree with dodgeguy..we need to start taxing that *** on other countries.Soon as we do the prices rise and more people will start thinking about buying American products here because it will be cheaper.We need to start thinking about us and not everybody else across the country.We've always be relying on other products and it needs to stop.
Just an FYI, but any product that is made or assembled overseas must be labeled with the country of origin or it will not make it through customs. Clothes....it's on the tag. Rods....generally a sticker.
Also, I want to buy american, but I also want the best product possible. I don't feel the fishing market is being taken over by overseas products. We are seeing a spike in rods and reels made overseas, but there are a bunch still made here.
Even though rods like Loomis, St Croix etc.. are made here in the USA they still use parts from other countries. Correct me if I am wrong but Fuji parts which most rods use are not made in the USA.
But yes I prefer products made or at least assembled in the USA.
Later,
Functionality and quality are what I look for.
"Made in USA" rods, affect your decision?
NO
I simply won 't purchase a rod just because it says MADE IN USA, if it 's junk MADE IN USA won 't make it better.
I could care less of where it is made. If it serves the purpose of its design the way I want it to and is good quality I will buy it.
Why pay more for a Made in the USA label and get a lesser value in the product. Start looking at where the owners of the Made in USA products are (i.e. Shimano owns G Loomis and now Power Pro) and the Tag looses its Value.
Ern
Quote"Made in USA" rods, affect your decision?NO
I simply won 't purchase a rod just because it says MADE IN USA, if it 's junk MADE IN USA won 't make it better.
YES, but with the same clarification.
a pig with lipstick...
RW, I don't know. Both of my GL2's had the tags on them & each tag said 'components made in USA, assembled in China', so made in china?
QuoteIt's an International Market Place now. Computers,rapid transportation and modernized shipping as well as a modern communication system have the whole world in the market, Rather than bemoan it , it would do us good as a nation to figure out how to be the major player in it. It is happening whether we like it or not, we all better get used to it and learn how to work it to our advantage.
Spot on!!!!!!
It seems that all of a sudden we are concerned about buying American.
The "outsourcing" started long before many on here were born.
Most of the electronic manufacturing departed this country decades ago.
Shoes? The same thing. Brockton, the home of Rocky Marciano, was once the shoe capital of the world. Today, it is a shell of what it once was.
Fall River, New Bedford, Haverhill, Lowell, Lawrence, once major textile centers turned from boom towns to ghost towns when the textile mills moved to the South, beginning in the early 1900s, or early middle of the 1900s.
My maternal grandfather was a mill superintendent in a Fall River mill. The mill moved to Georgia in the '30s. He could have kept his job, but it would have necessitated him moving to Georgia.
He agreed to go to Georgia to help get the mill up and running, but once operational, he would retire to his home in Mass.
He was a widower, and took one of his daughters with him. She met, and married a good ol' Georgia boy. A year later, I was born.
Furniture sold in the Hickory, NC area used to be made there. Most of those factories are now closed, and the furniture is being made outside of the country, a lot of it in China. Our Drexel House dining room set came from China.
These and other businesses were outsourced long before there was even a mention of Gatt, NAFTA and all the other trade agreements.
Heck, my 2007 GMC pickup was assembled in Mexico.
What provides more jobs for Americans? Me buying an "American product" made in Mexico, or buying a "foreign product" made in the states?
While I do not like these events, it is reality.
It is easier for an American company to move its operations overseas today than it was for the textile mills of the Northeast to move to the South decades ago.
Consider, those mills moved to the South for the exact same reasons companies move their manufacturing overseas today, to remain competitive in the marketplace.
First & foremost I must like the rod. I try hard to buy U.S.A. made products when the quality is good & the price is reasonable. My newest rod is a U.S.A. made St. Croix, which I really like. The standard of living in the U.S. is bound to fall when so many of the new jobs being created today are at fast food restaurants & large chain retail stores.