I've noticed a lot of people on here either don't like Quantum reels or just prefer another brand, from what I see mostly shimano. If you don't like Quantum I'd like to know why, I've just always wondered because I personally love quantum reels. All the reels I own are quantum except for one and I've never had a problem. I fished a buddy's curado once and I didn't think it felt, cast, or handled any better than my energy. Even my Accurist isn't far behind the curado, at least in smoothness and casting distance.
Once again I'm not bashing anyone's opinions I was just wondering why some people don't like their stuff.
Bought a Quantum KVD reel and half the time the thumbar won't engage. Their cheaper model seem to be crap. I do like their Smoke series though.
Nothing.........I wear Shimano underware when it comes to casting reels, but have and use Quantum, Abu, and Daiwa products. I have 2 Quantum Accurist PT casting reels, that I will not replace with ANY other reels, except for maybe a newer Accurist with the 7:1 ratio. I will take Quantums over Revo's any day. I have never owned there rods, or spinning reels, so I can't comment on those, but the new Accurist PT spinning reel looks mighty tempting to me.
The main problem I see with Quantums in the shop is a poor quality finish. A high percentage have corosion, blisters and blemishes. The AR sleeves corrode too often as well. I see minor QC issues like holes not lining up perfectly. This is not to bash the brand, each has their own issues. The issues I see in the Quantums are not all that major but pop up too frequently. The designs are good except for the gawd awful side plate release setup. It makes them unnecessarily difficult to service. THe smoothness, feespool and drag are all pretty good for the most part. If the QC and finish were up to par with the rest of the reel I think a lot of the nay sayers would come around. With reels around like the Curado and Ambassadeuer that you just can't kill if you tried, It's hard to look past even slight but apparent quality issues.
I've never had a problem with my Quantum reels either and have both spinning and casting models that have held up well for years without a problem. I have other reels in the Cabelas Prodigy, a newly purchased Plfueger Supreme XT and a Shimano Sahara. The Sahara has given me the most trouble and gets the least or no use and not a knock just my personal experience with the brand. All my Quantums are PT reels and I have one of the new Accurist PT 7.0:1 reels waiting to be spooled up with 50# braid this weekend for a flipping stick.
Their finish comes off even with kit gloves! Their customer service is fast, some say excellent, but all they do is send you a new reel and usually the same problem pops up again. Every spinning reel I bought ended up with cracked ceramic drag disks. On my Accurist Inshore and an Energy baistcaster, just palming it discolored the sideplate and wore off the decals. Every baitcaster also lost its line guide eye from a uni to uni knot going through it.
Being using nothing but Quantum reels for the past 20 years now and the only issue I have ever had was on some, not all but some, of the old MG reels anti reverse giving out. Other then that I have not had any issues with Quantum reels nor there rods for that matter, although I do prefer G.Loomis rods. I use to be a Shimano nut up until Quantum came out with the EX series many years ago. Once i tried those I was hooked and never went back, in fact I still have two EX series reels that are still working as good as the day I bought them. I use them for deep diving crankbait fishing to this day. I also still have one MG reel that has a bait clicker that I still use for cat fishing, that is also working as good as new. The rest of my reels are all PT Energy or Tour reels and I have not had one issue with any of them.
With that said I think a lot of the hate comes from some of Quantum’s cheaper reels like the code reels of which are junk, but the PT series flat out rock in my book.
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Had a Quantum once for about 6 months and the anti-reverse went out. It was a lower end reel but i've had less expensive reels that still work fine after 3 years. It seems that the lower end products they make are the troublemakers with quality where as the higher end stuff (exo, smoke, pt's) are quality reels but some feel they can get more bang for there buck with other companies.
I use all quantum reels as well, had a problem with one right out of the box, but it was replaced within two weeks with a brand new one. I'd say quantums are great reel, although the finish is the not best and usually blistering and chips do occur, I have not had too many problems with the mechanical aspect of the reels. You get a lot of reel for your money, and a company that stands behind their product 100%!
i got a quantum escalade in spinning and in casting models( both a dicks sports only ) reel and ive had no problems with them so far used them all last season but i do like my shimano caenan better
Every brand has its flaws, I like Quantum reels and Pfluegers and Abu Garcia. Shimano left a bad taste in my mouth with 2 bad Symetre spinning reels in one season, the first one the bearings went bad, the second one had bad bearings and the bail spring broke and I was told my Shimano to buy a better reel in their line up...That was my last one but their upper tier offerings are great reels but I have a bad taste in my mouth over the problem with the Symetres that I refuse to buy Shimano. What kills me is how a brand loyal customer will bash a reel for being rough during the retreive or if it is heavy but they defend their brand to the hilt if they happen to make a reel just like they hate about another reel. A perfect example of this is Diawa fans, I love Diawa reels but most of their reels under 270 with a few exceptions like the Tierra or Advantage, aren't very good. The problem is I've heard a few of those people really hammer Quantum for having heavy reels and then what do you know, Diawa comes out with a $600 Z2020 that weighs 10oz by itself and that is ok, it is great or how about the complaints on the "geary" feeling of the $400 T3, I have heard Quantum getting bashed for this on a $150 dollar reel but it seem exceptable on a much higher priced reel. And then we have the " made in Japan" crowd, I swear you could put a turd in a box and have "made in japan" printed on it and charge $350 dollars for it and it would be the greatest thing on the market. Every brand has its problems and successes, it is why I use multiple brands, and the part of Quantum that appeals to me is I can get a high performance, all aluminum light weight reel for a reasonable price in what is called the Smoke, I like the Revo Premier also but it was $80 dollars more retail when it came out. I tell everyone about my mistake symetres but I also tell them about the good reels they make but I had a bad experience so I shy away from them, I try hard not to bash.
I have a fair amount of quantum reels and have never had an issue with any of them. Not a single one. I have some older ones, iron c, 1310s, old accurists... and I have an assortment of the 'newer' models~ from the bps kvd reel all the way up to the tour pro. Spinning reels as well. Out of the 26 combos I have, 18 are quantum reels. They all perform everytime.
That being said...I can understand why someone would question quantum when pricing their high end gear. The older 'blue' tourpro and energy 'rainbow' finish had a habit of flaking or bubbling after a while. Not all of them (mine is perfect) but it was a known issue. Why buy a 260 dollar reel that may be ugly in two years when you can get a revo or curado that has a more durable finish? I totally understand that.
But in the 50~ 150 dollar range, quantum is the best bang for the buck, period. The only things that come close are the bps pro qualifier, and the shimano citica.
But hey, everyone has their oppinion and who cares if others hate on quantum~ keeps the prices down on ebay.
I've got two Quantum bait casters, a 7:0:1 Accurist, and a Shaw Grigsby (believe it's an Accurist) model from DSG. I consider myself a Shimano guy when it comes to spinning gear which I use more than my BC gear.
My Quantum BCs have served me well, with regular oiling and such. Exception being, as mentioned above, the finish. They ding/scratch easily. Also noticing, after 4 years of the Grigsby model, occasional slippage in gears. Because these are my only BCs, I can't compare them to Shimanos, Daiwas, BPS, etc., other than in-store comparisons. So I'll only give opinion on the Q's.
My own experience has not been bad. Would I opt for Quantums again? Not likely. Only one I might consider, having played with it, is the Smoke which is pretty sweet (looking). I almost went for a new Curado with the reel trade in, but couldn't justify it to the CFO. Was able to justify a replacement spinning reel though because the kids can fish that.
If I were a big bait casting guy, I might feel otherwise....
I try not to bash, but....One reel in a long list of "anecdotal" blemishes that adds up to poor quality:
I like some of Quantums higher end stuff, but I've had too many bad experiences with the mid to lower end of their lineup. Abu and shimano just make a better overall lineup of casting reels, IMO.
i had two of the older accurists and the newer catalyst PT. the accurists were okay...just kinda heavy and not particularly smooth so i got rid of them. on the newer quantums, the bugaboo to me is the ergonomics. all of them have a hump on their palm sideplates were the ACS dial is that just feels awful in my hands...bugs me to no end as i like to palm my reels while fishing. the other thing that bugs me is how low the spool release button sits when depressed...it is the lowest of any reel i've ever fished with (which is a lot) and forces me to "thumb" the spool with only the tip of my thumb instead of the pad of my thumb like with other reels which gives me better feel and control.
I have a few Quantum outfits,But i starting to use alot of Pinnacle.Seems more bang for your buck and more dependable.JMO.
I have had several Quantum spinning reels and one baitcaster over the years.
The finishes were horrible quickly; something I have never seen on Daiwa nor Shimanos.
The handles on all three of the spinning reels virtually melted, and became useless. I called customer service, and yes, they sent new ones gratis, but then they too melted over time.
I have learned...no more Quantums for me..I am DONE with them.
Can everyone on this forum say they have NEVER ever had a problem with a Shimano product? I dont care how good they are, you can get a dud in anything.
I haven't had a problem with the Quantum finishes but I fish from the shore so no boat rash issues and other than a nick or two here or there they have been pretty durable.
To the OP - you wanted to know what people were basing their negative opinions on regarding Quantum reels, and the members have responded.
I believe you get what you pay for. If you purchase an entry level reel, you'll get an entry level product.
If you purchase the higher end gear and take reasonable care in maintaining it, it should last and perform accordingly. That's my opinion -
I have up wards of 20 Quantum Casting / Spinning reels.
I have not seen any of the problems listed here but have been satisfied with the performance of these reels from day one.
And then there's this ~
In general, an opinion is a subjective belief, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. Opinions rarely change without new arguments being presented. However, it can be reasoned that one opinion is better supported by the facts than another by analyzing the supporting arguments. In casual use, the term opinion may be the result of a person's perspective, understanding, particular feelings, beliefs and desires. It may refer to unsubstantiated information, in contrast to knowledge and fact-based beliefs.
A-Jay
On 3/3/2012 at 12:45 AM, LilJakeC1 said:Wow I have never had any problems with my Quantum reels. I use the Energy PT and Tour Edition PT (new and old model). They have never given me any problems. I don't know how a reel can have cosmetic issues as bad as the one pictured above??
I would like to know too. Is that your reel John? The damage on the spool almost looks like something corrosive got on the metal and ate it away.
On 3/3/2012 at 5:13 AM, A-Jay said:To the OP - you wanted to know what people were basing their negative opinions on regarding Quantum reels, and the members have responded.
I believe you get what you pay for. If you purchase an entry level reel, you'll get an entry level product.
If you purchase the higher end gear and take reasonable care in maintaining it, it should last and perform accordingly. That's my opinion -
I have up wards of 20 Quantum Casting / Spinning reels.
I have not seen any of the problems listed here but have been satisfied with the performance of these reels from day one.
And then there's this ~
In general, an opinion is a subjective belief, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. Opinions rarely change without new arguments being presented. However, it can be reasoned that one opinion is better supported by the facts than another by analyzing the supporting arguments. In casual use, the term opinion may be the result of a person's perspective, understanding, particular feelings, beliefs and desires. It may refer to unsubstantiated information, in contrast to knowledge and fact-based beliefs.
A-Jay
A-Jay, well said. I always enjoy your perspective.
On 3/2/2012 at 11:46 PM, J Francho said:I try not to bash, but....One reel in a long list of "anecdotal" blemishes that adds up to poor quality:
Wow! Was that spool fished in saltwater?
Shouldn't matter, that's a saltwater safe finish, according to Quantum. Even if you don't rinse it right away it shouldn't have that sort of damage.
The things that I most often see with Quantum is not just superficial, they've got very weak worm gears, the bearing surfaces are very often not aligned properly and the clutch is somewhat lacking. I've had numerous instances in which a brand new reel's AR has gone out in a matter of days of fishing it. That said, the Tour KVD is likely one of the best mass market reels I've ever owned. I've had few issues with it in comparison to every other Q reel I've owned.
On 3/3/2012 at 6:27 AM, Hooligan said:Shouldn't matter, that's a saltwater safe finish, according to Quantum. Even if you don't rinse it right away it shouldn't have that sort of damage.
The things that I most often see with Quantum is not just superficial, they've got very weak worm gears, the bearing surfaces are very often not aligned properly and the clutch is somewhat lacking. I've had numerous instances in which a brand new reel's AR has gone out in a matter of days of fishing it. That said, the Tour KVD is likely one of the best mass market reels I've ever owned. I've had few issues with it in comparison to every other Q reel I've owned.
Understood. I just cant think of anything else that would cause that corrosive-like sore. The only other thing that comes to mind is a caustic solvent.
I fish Quantum Bait casters exclusively. I have fished Shimano, Pflueger, Diawa and ABU as well. My personal preferance is the Quantum. Have I ever had a problem with Quantums? Yes. I had/have a Kinetic which is my lowest priced model that I had a drag problem with. Quantums customer service replaced and I was happy with the service. I have Energy Pt's, Tour Editions and my favorite model which was discontinued is the Catlyst. Looking at my reels the Tour's do seem to fade and have boat rash, but they are also my oldest models. I use Pflueger spinning reels, because for the price I don't beleive there is a better reel out there.
That quantum was fished in fresh only and from a kayak - no corrosive chemicals.
I've fished Quantums exclusively for over 20yrs now. I have NEVER had a problem with them. I have about 20 reels right now ranging from Catalyst PT's to Tour Edition PT's and they have all performed flawlessly. No finish blemishes either. I love Quantum reels and will always fish them. I also use Quantum Tour Edition PT rods and they have been great as well.
On 3/2/2012 at 11:20 PM, smalljaw67 said:I was told my Shimano to buy a better reel in their line up...
I believe it, some of their customer support staff are retards. I had one of their guys tell me to buy another brand rod since mine broke, and I did with St Croix, best advice I got
On 3/3/2012 at 4:46 AM, hootiebenji said:Can everyone on this forum say they have NEVER ever had a problem with a Shimano product? I dont care how good they are, you can get a dud in anything.
I had quite a few problems with the Curados. The first three I got had problems. I have one Curado now and it has worked great for over a year now. However, I have NEVER had a problem with any of my Calcutta reels. Including the DC I bought at the pawn shop. If you can kill a Calcutta i'll be impressed. Never tried any of Shimanos other series though. Im perfectly content with my tried and true Calcuttas.
As for the OP. I have had nothing but good luck with quantum reels. Especially the Smoke reels. They are a bit too light for my tastes, but they are still amazing reels.
IOn 3/3/2012 at 6:17 AM, Gone_Phishin said:Wow! Was that spool fished in saltwater?
First of all I'm going to apologize if I offend anyone as I don't mean too. I saw a spool on one of my reels that looked EXACTLY like that, and it wasn't caused by any corrosive. What happed to mine ( Which was a Pflueger Patriarch for those interested) was after I trailered the boat I was putting my tackle away and I dropped my rod and reel and the reel smashed off the side of the trailer and when I say it looked exactly like that I mean if that reel in the pic didn't have the rainbow deposition coating on it you would not be able to tell the difference. I have reels from 3 different brands and they all have some boat rash but that isn't wear or boat rash or even saltwater use, that reel was dropped on something hard like a trailer or perhaps a concrete ramp, it is chipped, wear doesn't make aluminum chip.
On 3/3/2012 at 1:05 PM, Raider Nation Fisher said:I had quite a few problems with the Curados. The first three I got had problems. I have one Curado now and it has worked great for over a year now. However, I have NEVER had a problem with any of my Calcutta reels. Including the DC I bought at the pawn shop. If you can kill a Calcutta i'll be impressed. Never tried any of Shimanos other series though. Im perfectly content with my tried and true Calcuttas.
As for the OP. I have had nothing but good luck with quantum reels. Especially the Smoke reels. They are a bit too light for my tastes, but they are still amazing reels.
Same here, I had an Curado B back in the late 90's, it was the first LP baitcaster I ever had, up to that point I had only used round Abu Garcia reels. It gave me fits, was rough from about the 2nd time I used it, the store took it back, but the new one was just as bad and was sent back to Shimano 2 other times the first season. I gave up on it......and Shimano untill the D series came out. In that time I used just about every thing else, never had problems with anything made by Quantum, Daiwa, Pflueger, or Abu. The only other reels that have been BPS branded reels.............and......another Shimano, my Citica E got a little rough last year, but they fixed it.
I only have one Quantum reel, it is a Kinetic PT. I haven't had it very long but it has been great so far. I bought it because it was on sale at TW, for a good price. It keeps up just fine with my Revos, however I would trade it in a second for another Revo, I just love my Revos!!! The one reel I have that I don't particularly care for is a Curado 51E. It is just too small for me I think, dosen't feel right in my hands. Trade anyone?
Cliff
On 3/4/2012 at 12:40 AM, Red said:I only have one Quantum reel, it is a Kinetic PT. I haven't had it very long but it has been great so far. I bought it because it was on sale at TW, for a good price. It keeps up just fine with my Revos, however I would trade it in a second for another Revo, I just love my Revos!!! The one reel I have that I don't particularly care for is a Curado 51E. It is just too small for me I think, dosen't feel right in my hands. Trade anyone?
Cliff
What do you want for it? I have a Revo S-L I would be willing to part with, plus some cash to make up the diff.
I prefer a reel with a selective anti-reverse because I like to back-reel or thumb the spool when playing a fish. I had a Quantam Pro Lite with a defective anti-reverse that I sent to the factory for repair. Parts were not available so the kept my old reel and sent a replacement--not selective ant-reverse--at the going rate. I was not upset about the new reel but was because they kept the old. I own at least a bakers dozen Shimano Bantam 150 and 250 reels with selective anti-reverse and fish more with them than my new reels. They aren't quite and smooth and don't cast quite as far as the newer reels, but hey, I'm an old dog.
On 3/4/2012 at 12:56 AM, ww2farmer said:What do you want for it? I have a Revo S-L I would be willing to part with, plus some cash to make up the diff.
PM returned.
I've been a loyal Shimano user for years and I'll be the first to tell you that I've fished with junk that had their name on it. Over time life got better and I could afford to pull the trigger on a Calcutta and it was then I discovered that the more you spend on a Shimano, the more you get. That reel works like a fine Swiss-made watch. I eventually purchased another and along the way I picked up 3 Calais reels. I can't speak for other brands, but when you are willing and able to fork over the bucks for Shimano's higher end reels you do get what you pay for.
I have never had any problems with my Quantum. It casts wonderfully with a wide range of baits. With that said I love my Calcutta's even more. They are so SMOOTH. I thought it was frowned upon to use round reels (ha ha).
Mike
I also own over 20 Quantum reels, combination of spinning and casting, various models. Some, but not all, have some sort of finish blemishes, boat rash etc...and frankly I don't care. I'm incredibly tough on my equipment and despite that, they continue to work. The fish can't see my reels......until they hit the boat that is.
I strayed last year and bought an Abu casting reel that was on sale at Tackle Warehouse, didn't like it one bit and had fits with it working properly.
I'll stay with Quantum!
I have 7 Quantum bait casters and 2 spinning reels and absolutely love them! Never had any issues with a single one! The plan is to buy more before bass season opens up here in Michigan. A Smoke or Exo is next on the list!
Good here. No problems in over a year of steady use.
My only experience was with the KVD BPS version around 3 years ago. The reel is in a class of its own compared to the other 8 BC's I've picked up since then (Shimanos, Lews, and BPS PQ's), and I don't mean that in a good way. There is so much play in the spool that 12# mono gets caught/kinked and needs to be replaced far too frequently... that's just one of the recurring problems. I am sure that their higher end reels are much better, but one reel was enough for me.
On 3/4/2012 at 3:51 PM, NorcalBassin said:My only experience was with the KVD BPS version around 3 years ago. The reel is in a class of its own compared to the other 8 BC's I've picked up since then (Shimanos, Lews, and BPS PQ's), and I don't mean that in a good way. There is so much play in the spool that 12# mono gets caught/kinked and needs to be replaced far too frequently... that's just one of the recurring problems. I am sure that their higher end reels are much better, but one reel was enough for me.
Yup.
A-Jay
On 3/4/2012 at 3:51 PM, NorcalBassin said:My only experience was with the KVD BPS version around 3 years ago. The reel is in a class of its own compared to the other 8 BC's I've picked up since then (Shimanos, Lews, and BPS PQ's), and I don't mean that in a good way. There is so much play in the spool that 12# mono gets caught/kinked and needs to be replaced far too frequently... that's just one of the recurring problems. I am sure that their higher end reels are much better, but one reel was enough for me.
Those I lump in the Abu silver max, Diawa strike force and laguna, Shiman Caius, Corvalus,and th Pflueger Criterion, these are all reels that will put a bad taste in the mouth of anyone unfortunate to use one after owning a good reel.
I have a Abu Silver Max and I love it...On 3/4/2012 at 11:37 PM, smalljaw67 said:Those I lump in the Abu silver max, Diawa strike force and laguna, Shiman Caius, Corvalus,and th Pflueger Criterion, these are all reels that will put a bad taste in the mouth of anyone unfortunate to use one after owning a good reel.
I bought the Tour edition PT VI when it went on sale for 150 during TW 12 days of christmas sale. Just tried it out in my canal and it seems really nice. Didn't catch anything haha, but casted very well with a 1/2oz spinnerbait. and 3/8oz bullet sinker. It will get put through it's paces come Guntersville.
On 3/5/2012 at 4:26 AM, Missouribassman95 said:I have a Abu Silver Max and I love it...
There are also anglers that love their BPS KVD and Strike force and Caius, the point I was making is that those reels are in the same catagory, they are value priced reels, and while most perform well enough to fish the internal parts aren't the best which leads to a higher amount of failure compared to higher priced reels. While it is true that you can get a bad expensive reel or a great value reel, the odds of that happening are rare, and I don't mean that the value reel is doomed to failure, it is just they are designed to get 1 or 2 seasons due to the use of cheaper bearings and gears. Do you think an 8 ball bearing $200+ reel has the same bearings as a 10 ball bearing $79.99 reel? If they did the manufacturers would never be able to sell an expensive reel.
I saw the smoke spinning reel in the display case and had to give it a few turns. I thought the look was awesome, love the blacked out paint, but when i started reeling it i realized how cheap it felt. My $80 sahara is a smoother reel, my Ci4 is in a whole other world...
For baitcasters, i was shopping between quantum pt's, curado's, and revos. I thought the finish and smoothness totally went to the curado, ended up getting the 201e7, absolutely love it. Ive tried to like quantums but if im putting the money out its going to be a shimano with pflueger and abu at a close second...
I bought a KVD model and got 3 casts out of it before it locked up. Took it back for a refund and never looked back since. There are too many proven reels out there for me to experiment for myself. I now listen to the guys that have been doing this for longer than I've been alive. They have never been wrong yet!
On 3/5/2012 at 2:13 PM, thehooligan said:I saw the smoke spinning reel in the display case and had to give it a few turns. I thought the look was awesome, love the blacked out paint, but when i started reeling it i realized how cheap it felt. My $80 sahara is a smoother reel, my Ci4 is in a whole other world...
For baitcasters, i was shopping between quantum pt's, curado's, and revos. I thought the finish and smoothness totally went to the curado, ended up getting the 201e7, absolutely love it. Ive tried to like quantums but if im putting the money out its going to be a shimano with pflueger and abu at a close second...
Display case models are not usually as smooth as the display models that have had some turns on them.
I have an older Quantum EX200 baitcaster that I have had since the 90's. It was on a crankbait rod for a long time, then I switched it over to a 7'6" striper rod, just because it has more capacity. As you can imagine, both of those roles have sorely mistreated it, yet it still casts and retrieves well, and the drag is silky smooth. I'm thinking maybe stuff used to be made better, because I'm also still using a Shimano B100 from the 80's and a Shakespeare Alpha 1982 (my first baitcaster). Neither looks new, but they both still work like new.
I still run a couple of 40 dollar quantums that I bought at walmart back in like 04/05. They have been tanks for me, still cast like a dream and work great. I use them mostly for flipping so I dont know if that has anything to do with them still working so good or not.
I made the choice today to buy a Quantum Smoke spinning reel I got it for $127 from TW on a price match. I have already made one mistake just hope this isn't another. I bought a Powell Diesel rod and a Abu Orra S reel. Love the rod but Im sorry to anyone that has one the reel felt cheap and was defective had to send it back(didn't have threads in it to screw in handle). This is why I ordered the smoke, I have had the chance to try one out and fell in love with it. My point is all I use are Shimano's and just cant say anything bad about them but the ones I have and tried on the rod just dont feel right with it. So that meant trying another brand and so far it hasn't worked out.
They just got a great review from TT about the new Exo... they're pretty influentual with their reviews, so I imagine Quantum is pretty happy right now.
ive got a couple quantum energy reels that i bought in 99 and with a cleaning and lube job at the beginning of every season they still work as well as the day i bought them even have a 40.00 cx 200 combo from wal mart from around 2000 that i still use every year for my buzzbaits and its a little champ so you never know until you get it on the water i love my quantums and am loyal to the brand as i grew up fishing zebco 33 reels that my grand dad passed down to my dad just my 2 cents
My first baitcasting reel I've ever bought was Quantum Energy PT and the finish was awful. After a couple of weeks from leisure fishing, it started to flake. I was not impressed to say the least.
After that, I purchased my first Curado D and was extremely happy with the reel that I hopped on the Shimano bandwagon. Shimano isn't perfect either because I've had many problems with my Curados and Citicas, but they are usually minor. I love the value and performance of these reels. I feel that they will last me forever as long as I clean them and don't abuse them. All I can say is I feel comfortable with a Shimano in my hand.
I had a chance to play with the Smoke and it looks like a great reel. Quantum has really stepped up recently. On the other hand, I was really disappointed in the new G series launched by Shimano.
Made in China. Enough said. Rather send my money to Japanese reels and American rods. Shimano and St.Croix can't get much better than that.
On 3/9/2012 at 9:32 AM, The Next KVD said:Made in China. Enough said. Rather send my money to Japanese reels and American rods. Shimano and St.Croix can't get much better than that.
My stradics are made in Malaysia, not Japan. My Penns are made in China and every bit as good as my stradics. My Quantum Cabo is on a par with both Penn and my Shimanos and they aren't made in Japan. My Sorons are the smoothest of the entire bunch and they are made in China. I like my Shimano equipment, but I like the other brands equally as well. I have an American made Avet, is it better than it's Chinese counterpart, I doubt it.
I'm guessing TNK was making a point about not sending his money to a communist country, and quality. Just a guess - and remember, let's keep the politics out of it, and leave it at that.
"My Brand is better than Your Brand" threads are perhaps my least favorite topics on the entire BR fishing forum. Rarely if ever, do these threads add anything constructive to what is otherwise such an excellent site. I can't even call them entertaining as they routinely cause disharmony.
Questions regarding certain brands / models are routinely answered with adequate information provided by members who have experience using the equipment. Posts offering the opportunity to debate brand quality, performance and dependability, elicit responses that appear defensive, misrepresented and hard to interpret; completely different from so many of the high quality responses elsewhere on the forum.
Opinions regarding tackle inferiority are a waste of time. It doesn’t matter. This site is loaded with photos of amazing fish landed with every brand imaginable, How is that possible . . . . . . . . . . . .
A-Jay
On 3/9/2012 at 3:47 PM, SirSnookalot said:My stradics are made in Malaysia, not Japan. My Penns are made in China and every bit as good as my stradics. My Quantum Cabo is on a par with both Penn and my Shimanos and they aren't made in Japan. My Sorons are the smoothest of the entire bunch and they are made in China. I like my Shimano equipment, but I like the other brands equally as well. I have an American made Avet, is it better than it's Chinese counterpart, I doubt it.
I have nothing against Chinese made products, but if given the choice I would choose an American product over a Chinese version everyday. If you like them and they work great for you thats cool. Look at KVD, the guy is my idol but he uses alot of non american products and I'm cool with that. As far as the Shimano products, I only buy the ones made in Japan with the exception of the 2 spinning reels due to all them in my price range being made in Malaysia . Sadley I will not be buying the new curados or citicas anytime soon which is okay because I love the chronachs more and have quite a few of the older versions along with th older citica e's. Too me, I'd much rather put my money towards as many American products to help produce/substain jobs for my fellow citizens. I know I can't always buy American because there is no American version but if the choice is there I'll almost always take the American product even if it cost me more. I say almost because I don't think I'll switch over to Ardent reels but than again I haven't seen or get a hold of one yet. If your not into that thats cool with me, use what you like.
On 3/9/2012 at 9:46 PM, J Francho said:I'm guessing TNK was making a point about not sending his money to a communist country, and quality. Just a guess - and remember, let's keep the politics out of it, and leave it at that.
Sorry, didn't mean to make this about politics. But your right about not sending money to a communist country. I will say some products out of China have excellent quality but those are far and few between that meet my standards of "quality".
I don't disagree with anything said about buying foreign products. The reality is this, a good portion of American Companies don't care about putting people to work, their priority is profits and making money for their investors. Just approaching this from a business standpoint, if companies can produce products cheaper in another country, then that's what they are going to do.
Consumers want the best product at the best price, whether it's fishing gear, a screwdriver or, a no.2 leaded pencil, that's human nature.
The point is buying products from companies outside the United States, communist or not reduces American manufacturing jobs. Being true to the conviction of supporting American labor, Shimano and other foreign products would be eliminated from many people's arsenal, doesn't seem to be the case. I'd love to see my stradics made here, but I doubt that will happen. It's a good product and that's why I own it.
I would like to see the charter of any company change from, "how do we make it just as good cheaper" to "how do we improve it". When the front office is separated from the manufacturing facilities by thousands of miles and different languages quick mods or improvements are not going to happen. Just a sign of the times I suppose......................Al