Line!!?!?!? 2024
collegefishing12 reply :
It seems that every year I find myself making a big fuss about line prices (and, from my opinion, rightfully so). My goal, as with other areas of my fishing disease, is to achieve good quality without breaking the bank. I also acknowledge that, out of all the other gadgets and components, fishing line is without a doubt the most important. Okay, so what to use?
Here are the setups that I am looking to spool:
Casting rigs:
Crank rod (smaller cranks, 1/4oz - 3/8oz)
Jig rod (bigger jigs 7/16oz - 3/4oz)
Smaller jig rod/ Swim jig rod (1/8oz - 5/16)
Worm/pitching rod (1/8oz-5/16oz)
C-rig rod (3/8-1/2oz)
Topwater (mostly, buzzbaits 3/8 oz)
i have left a few out, but that is because I already picked out the line that I want for them (ex., frog rod)
Spinning rigs:
Shakey head/drop shot rod
Senko rod
Any advice as to brand/test would be greatly appreciated, as would some suggestions of economically efficient line 
Hooligan reply :
12lb Seaguar Red label or Yo-Zuri Hybrid on casting except topwater and jerkbait rods, on which I'd put Suffix Siege.
6lb Siege or Elite on spinning if you want mono/copoly or Ultra-Soft if you want fluoro.
BassThumb reply :
Casting rigs:
Crank rod (smaller cranks, 1/4oz - 3/8oz) 8-10# CXX
Jig rod (bigger jigs 7/16oz - 3/4oz) 50# braid, with or without a leader
Smaller jig rod/ Swim jig rod (1/8oz - 5/16) Trilene 100% 15# fluorocarbon or 12# Yo Zuri Hybrid or Ultra Soft
Worm/pitching rod (1/8oz-5/16oz) Trilene 100% 15# fluorocarbon or 12# Yo Zuri Hybrid or Ultra Soft
C-rig rod (3/8-1/2oz)
Topwater (mostly, buzzbaits 3/8 oz) 14-17# soft mono, Sufix Elite
Spinning rigs:
Shakey head/drop shot rod 6# Ultra Soft or CXX, or 6-8# Invizx fluorocarbon
Senko rod 6-8# YZ Ultra Soft, 6-8# Invizx, or 6# CXX
Fish Chris reply :
Well, if your looking for economically efficient then I wouldn't even consider anything but braid. I fish darn near a whole season on one spool of braid, whereas I use to change my mono every second or third trip !
I use TUF-Line XP, but if it's true braided Spectra, it's going to be good stuff.
Fish
Mattyvac reply :
YoZuri hybrid can be had on amazon or ebay for $8 a spool of 600yds in any #, and powerpro is 10.99 for 150yds at dick's sporting goods right now.
Hyrule Bass reply :
On 4/11/2011 at 8:37 PM, Fish Chris said:Well, if your looking for economically efficient then I wouldn't even consider anything but braid. I fish darn near a whole season on one spool of braid, whereas I use to change my mono every second or third trip !
I use TUF-Line XP, but if it's true braided Spectra, it's going to be good stuff.
Fish
i dont get the every second or third trip, overkill? provided i have no major snags and such, a reel spooled with mono lasts me 2-3 years...
WanderLust reply :
For baitcasters
Mono - Berkley Big Game 12# / 15#
Co-poly - Yo-Zuri Hybrid 12# / 15#
Braid - Fireline 30# / 5x#
Flouro - Triline 100% or BPS XPS in 12# / 15#
You could get away with Big Game and Yo-Zuri for everything except drop shot and heavy salad though. 900 and 600 spools are dirt cheap.
SirSnookalot reply :
If you are looking to be economical use fewer set-ups, less line would be required and you will probably catch as many fish. Now I know that isn't the way you will go, but if it were me I'd using nothing but braid with backing, much less line will be needed, my freshwater braid hasn't been changed in 2 years, for me mono is ancient history.
NBR reply :
You really don't need to respool every year so long as the line and/or reel has not been in the sun light a lot or exposed to really high temperatures. I have spools that approach 10 years old that are just fine. My spools are kept in a closed carton in my boat garage that has no windows. I do check them occasionally with a hand scale for break strength.
A-Rob reply :
Buy some cheap line and back all your reels so your new line is about 1.25-1.5 casts long.
That will save a bunch of money and line.
Fish braid when you can (ie jigs, frogs, whatever else) b/c as mentioned above it can last all season. I like Power Pro.
Try the Stren Flourocast, it's like $10 for 200 yards. I'm sure you get what you pay for...but I know it works b/c I've used it and the price is right.
BASSclary reply :
Casting rigs:
Crank rod (smaller cranks, 1/4oz - 3/8oz) 12# Sufix Seige
Jig rod (bigger jigs 7/16oz - 3/4oz) 65# Sufix Performance braid or Sufix 832
Smaller jig rod/ Swim jig rod (1/8oz - 5/16) 40-50# Braid ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Worm/pitching rod (1/8oz-5/16oz) 40# braid
C-rig rod (3/8-1/2oz) 15# Seagaur Abrazx Fluorocarbon
Topwater (mostly, buzzbaits 3/8 oz) 17# Sufix Elite. (Although, if you want to try something new try a lighter fluorocarbon line. I like 8# Seaguar InvizX for tops)
i have left a few out, but that is because I already picked out the line that I want for them (ex., frog rod)
Spinning rigs:
Shakey head/drop shot rod 8# Seagaur Invizx Fluorocarbon
Senko rod 8# Seaguar InvizX Fluorocarbon
With all the braids I answered, It will last you a long time and IMO give you the best bang for your buck, plus it's extremely sensitive. If you're worried about it's visibility, just add a fluoro leader about the length of your rod. I get the best results if my leader is the same diameter as my braid.
detroit1 reply :
Or go with this: XL and XT.
BassThumb reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 4:09 AM, BASSclary said:Spinning rigs:
Senko rod 12# Seaguar Abrazx Fluorocarbon
Using stiff, abrasion resistant 12# fluorocarbon on a spinning reel is just asking for a giant birdsnest that needs to be cut out.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 4:09 AM, BASSclary said:Casting rigs:
Crank rod (smaller cranks, 1/4oz - 3/8oz) 12# Sufix Seige
Jig rod (bigger jigs 7/16oz - 3/4oz) 65# Sufix Performance braid or Sufix 832
Smaller jig rod/ Swim jig rod (1/8oz - 5/16) 40-50# Braid ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Worm/pitching rod (1/8oz-5/16oz) 40# braid
C-rig rod (3/8-1/2oz) 15# Seagaur Abrazx Fluorocarbon
Topwater (mostly, buzzbaits 3/8 oz) 17# Sufix Elite. (Although, if you want to try something new try a lighter fluorocarbon line. I like 8# Seaguar InvizX for tops)
i have left a few out, but that is because I already picked out the line that I want for them (ex., frog rod)
Spinning rigs:
Shakey head/drop shot rod 8# Seagaur Invizx Fluorocarbon
Senko rod 12# Seaguar Abrazx Fluorocarbon
With all the braids I answered, It will last you a long time and IMO give you the best bang for your buck, plus it's extremely sensitive. If you're worried about it's visibility, just add a fluoro leader about the length of your rod. I get the best results if my leader is the same diameter as my braid.
The whole purpose of knots like Alberto is so the angler doesn't have to match diameters. In doing so, you'd have 2different diameters of line to purchase in addition to what is being spooled, by your advice. You'd have him with 8lb, 12lb, 15lb, 20lb and if you go with 50lb braid 25lb. Learn to tie the Alberto or Albright and peel some off a reel that has fluoro or mono and use that as leader.
collegefishing12 reply :
First and foremost, thanks to everyone who took time to contribute and give some GREAT advise. Sorry I haven't been on since my original post, but I was not in town until this morning. But as I am looking over everything and making plans for each setup I am sure I will have some more questions.
On a side note, has anyone tried the new Lake Fork flurocarbon? It seems to be relatively inexpensive compared to most others. Also, I am glad to see so many firm believers in Yozuri Hybrid line, as this has been one of my favorites over the years. Does the Yozuri "soft" make a good difference for spinning combos? I have read that it does and given the feedback above I am assuming this is pretty accurate.
Thanks again everyone!!
BobP reply :
If you're concerned about price, BassPro fluorocarbon line is good stuff. I've used it for years with no complaints. Also, Izorline Platinum is an excellent nylon copolymer line. It sells at a very good price for 1/4 lb spools. Izor comes in 2 formulations. Izor Platinum has a hard surface finish, low stretch, and outstanding knot strength, like Trilene XT. Izor XXX is designed for spinning, with a softer surface finish and a little more stretch, like Trilene XL. Both have very consistent diameters. Like all hard finish copolymer lines, the Premium will develop more spool memory in cold weather than the XXX.
If you really want to save on line, find one you like and buy it in bulk spools.
collegefishing12 reply :
On 4/13/2011 at 12:19 AM, BobP said:If you're concerned about price, BassPro fluorocarbon line is good stuff.
Dunno if I wasn't using the right knot or just got the right batch, but I purchased the BPS fluoro 2 years ago and spooled my flipping and pitching rods. My first tournament with the line I broke the first 6 fish off, directly at the knot and upon hookset. I am a bit of a "power" setter, but I have never had near this problem with other fluro's, e.g., seagur (either kind), yozuri hybrid, or yozuri H20.
While I am on the topic, has Yozuri H20 quadrupled in price since last year? I seem to recall buying a spool for 8-9 (similar to what you would pay for that of hybrid), and now tackle warehouse is asking nearly $18. ?!?!
philsoreel reply :
I'm still undecided on a lot of favorites. There's a few different lines I trust for certain techniques but one I am totally sold on is Toray Solaroam Superhard Upgrade. I use it for my jigs/t-rigs/c-rigs. One 16# 164yd. spool gives me two full spools on a Shimano Core 50MG7. I have been using that line since October of last year and it shows no sign of needing replacement anytime soon. Yes, it's really expensive but if it lasts a year it will be alot more economical than spooling up ten or more times this summer with a cheaper line.
I fish, on average, about 5 times a week including the winter. I have put many many miles on this line, even caught my PB 10.73lb. on it last month and it's still in excellent condition and have only used half of the spool. When this spool finally gives out, whenever that may be, I still have another brand new full spool left. Hypothetically, let's say each spool lasts me 9 months. That's a year and a half of line for $37. That's a really good bargain to me.
As far as other applications I would go with PowerPro or Sufix 832 with or without a good leader material when braid is feasible. P-Line CX Premium is an outstanding, affordable line for most applications other than topwater. When mono is needed Sunline Super Natural Mono is my top choice. Nothing wrong with Sufix Elite Camo mono I just prefer the smaller diameter of the Sunline.
Just my two cents...
WanderLust reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 12:53 PM, BassThumb said:Using stiff, abrasion resistant 12# fluorocarbon on a spinning reel is just asking for a giant birdsnest that needs to be cut out.
Strongly agreed. Besides 6-8# CXX about as tough as I ever need. I use 6# 100% on my dropshot rig.
Fat-G reply :
Yeah, I don't see why you would ever put stiff 12# flouro on a spinning rig...
6# CXX would work much better.
Fat-G reply :
On 4/13/2011 at 1:48 AM, collegefishing12 said:Dunno if I wasn't using the right knot or just got the right batch, but I purchased the BPS fluoro 2 years ago and spooled my flipping and pitching rods. My first tournament with the line I broke the first 6 fish off, directly at the knot and upon hookset. I am a bit of a "power" setter, but I have never had near this problem with other fluro's, e.g., seagur (either kind), yozuri hybrid, or yozuri H20.
While I am on the topic, has Yozuri H20 quadrupled in price since last year? I seem to recall buying a spool for 8-9 (similar to what you would pay for that of hybrid), and now tackle warehouse is asking nearly $18. ?!?!
That would be double the price.
collegefishing12 reply :
On 4/13/2011 at 4:10 AM, Fat-G said:That would be double the price.
Lol... I was being dramatic, but thanks for the good math 
BASSclary reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 1:50 PM, Hooligan said:The whole purpose of knots like Alberto is so the angler doesn't have to match diameters. In doing so, you'd have 2different diameters of line to purchase in addition to what is being spooled, by your advice. You'd have him with 8lb, 12lb, 15lb, 20lb and if you go with 50lb braid 25lb. Learn to tie the Alberto or Albright and peel some off a reel that has fluoro or mono and use that as leader.
50 lb Power Pro has a 12 lb diameter. Definitely not 25. And I don't purchase two different diameter line spools, I use left over from spools with like only 30 yrds on them. And I do use an Alberto knot.
I may be mis-reading you though
BASSclary reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 12:53 PM, BassThumb said:Using stiff, abrasion resistant 12# fluorocarbon on a spinning reel is just asking for a giant birdsnest that needs to be cut out.
Whoops. Forgot it was a spinning rig in my reply. 
I take it back, and say 8 # InvizX
Fat-G reply :
On 4/13/2011 at 4:51 AM, BASSclary said:50 lb Power Pro has a 12 lb diameter. Definitely not 25. And I don't purchase two different diameter line spools, I use left over from spools with like only 30 yrds on them. And I do use an Alberto knot.
I may be mis-reading you though
He's saying go with a 25# leader for 50# braid.
Fat-G reply :
On 4/13/2011 at 4:43 AM, collegefishing12 said:Lol... I was being dramatic, but thanks for the good math
I just felt like being a smartass. 
Fish Chris reply :
Quotei dont get the every second or third trip, overkill?
A lot of the time, yes. It is simply overkill. But the thing is, with mono, you can have a whole spool of perfectly great, like new line, but have 1 tiny nick, that reduces the lbs of pull you can put on a fish without breakage, from like 20 lbs, to 5 lbs (just throwing out numbers for an example).
The reason is because mono suffers from the "tear factor"... or in other words, once their is a tiny nick, it can go on and tear all the way through from that point.
With braid, on the other hand (again, just using random numbers to explain the point) lets say you have 50 lb test, which is made up of 50 individual fibers. You could have a nick, which cuts through 10 of those fibers, but you still have 40 lb test to work with. Zero tear factor.
So in a nutshell, even worn out, beat up braid, is a safer bet, than mono which is anything but brand spanking new !
But again, like SirSnook said, mono is ancient history for me.
Peace,
fish
SirSnookalot reply :
I'm gonna be real fair about this, braid blows mono away especially when it comes to strength. I have found only 2 negatives to braid, most here will not encounter either of them. Very bad line twist while trolling with spoons(ball bearing swivels don't really help)or using lures like my barracuda tubes which spin really fast. Getting line tangled with other lines like on a drift boat, mono is the only way to go for that kind of fishing.
bilgerat reply :
I too went braid several years back, but for a different reason than most. Being I use ultra light for most of my fishing, the small diameter spools found on ul size reels would magnify mono problems. With braid that's all in the past. I liked braid so much on my ul it's on everything I have now.
I still fill my spools halfway with old mono and then top off with braid. I run mono leaders for two reasons - for a little bit of shock absortion on reaction type baits like cranks and the fact that with a 6' leader I can tie numerous baits all day and never lose any braid.
Let's say a 150 yd spool of braid is $15. Spool two reels (using mono backing) and you're set for a few years for $7.50 per reel.
I will add that where I fish there are no rocks to deal with, which I understand to be braid's weakness. You have to consider where you are fishing.
trevor reply :
On 4/12/2011 at 5:48 AM, detroit1 said:Or go with this: XL and XT.
I wonder why more people don't use original Trilene. I've never had a bad experience with them and they're very cheap and available.
grimlin reply :
On 4/18/2011 at 2:53 AM, trevor said:I wonder why more people don't use original Trilene. I've never had a bad experience with them and they're very cheap and available.
My go to mono is Trilene. Like you I never had a bad experience either.If it failed it was because of me not checking the line like I should have. Trilene XT is my first choice.
I'm experimenting with braid again now.Just got some Sufix 832 and will be buying izorline braid as well soon here. One is going my a frog set up the other on a jig set up.
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