Ikes ganna be an abu guy!! 2024
shimanogloomis man reply :
http://tackletog.com/news/2010/01/07/iaconelli-now-with-abu-garcia-spiderwire-and-berkley/
Looks like Ikes ganna be fishing abu reels and maybe berkley rods. I dont even think abu comes close to diawa as far as reel imo but hey i guess money talks :
Pantera61 reply :
Quotehttp://tackletog.com/news/2010/01/07/iaconelli-now-with-abu-garcia-spiderwire-and-berkley/Looks like Ikes ganna be fishing abu reels and maybe berkley rods. I dont even think abu comes close to diawa as far as reel imo but hey i guess money talks :
At least Mike's getting paid to advertise. I could never understand why someone would give it away for nothing.
auburn bass man reply :
I would rather take less money from Daiwa and fish with a better product than take more money and fish ABU. Money does talk though. And Im sure he has his own reasons.
shimanogloomis man reply :
i bet hes ganna be saying in his head what a piece of crap this revo is to my steez
brushhoggin reply :
whats everybodys problem with abu? the stx is so money
MtCarmelTriton20x reply :
This maybe good for Abu and Berkley. The Skeet Reese Revo is the best reel they have had to date IMO so maybe by listening to Ike and Skeet they can com up with a even better reel. This goes for Berkley also. Let's face it they need some serious help in the rod department. The way I see it the only real loser is Ike but I'm sure for enough money he could fish a tourney with a Zebco 33.
shimanogloomis man reply :
I wonder what rods he"ll be fishing with ? or maybe he' ll come out with his own berkley line which im sure will be high end
Big Bait Fishing reply :
high end ??? , Ike fishes the ''light and tough'' rods alot more than the steez and zillion rods !!! ....
ChiCityBasser reply :
Guess his signature series rods will be on clearance at alot of places and especially on ebay.
He's a good guy and maybe a little crazy at times but seems to be a big boost for Abu
Dan: reply :
Quotehigh end ??? , Ike fishes the ''light and tough'' rods alot more than the steez and zillion rods !!! ....
but what reels does he have on them? most of the setups I've seen him fish with have Steez reels on them.
bmadd reply :
My bet is you will see him fishing Vendetta rods and eventually he will have a signature series reel out as well. My guess is his take on the Premiere.
Micro reply :
He went from the best reel maker to the second best. If he keeps working his way down, say through Pflueger, Bass Pro house brand, Pinnacle, Shakespeare, Quantum, he may eventually become a Shimano man.
Dan: reply :
he'll never become a "Shimano man" because they don't need to get endorsements from pros to sell reels. ;D
Big Bait Fishing reply :
QuoteQuotehigh end ??? , Ike fishes the ''light and tough'' rods alot more than the steez and zillion rods !!! ....but what reels does he have on them? most of the setups I've seen him fish with have Steez reels on them.
i was refering to his rod selection , but yeah , he uses steez reels and probably zillions also ..
Pantera61 reply :
Quotehe'll never become a "Shimano man" because they don't need to get endorsements from pros to sell reels. ;D
Kota Kirayama, Morizo Shimizu and Bernie Shultz quickly come to mind.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteQuoteQuotehigh end ??? , Ike fishes the ''light and tough'' rods alot more than the steez and zillion rods !!! ....but what reels does he have on them? most of the setups I've seen him fish with have Steez reels on them.
i was refering to his rod selection , but yeah , he uses steez reels and probably zillions also ..
He uses the Luna 103M quite often and the Sol spinning reel and baitcaster.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteHe went from the best reel maker to the second best. If he keeps working his way down, say through Pflueger, Bass Pro house brand, Pinnacle, Shakespeare, Quantum, he may eventually become a Shimano man.
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5bass reply :
QuoteHe went from the best reel maker to the second best. If he keeps working his way down, say through Pflueger, Bass Pro house brand, Pinnacle, Shakespeare, Quantum, he may eventually become a Shimano man.
Thank you! You got the #1 and #2 mixed up but the rest of the list looks accurate.
nubasser reply :
All of these big name reel companies have nice products and I bet he will have some input on product development.Maybe we could even see a magnesium Revo thats around 5 oz.on an even lighter vendetta.
Or better yet he fishes $120-$180 combos and wins angler of the year.Either way he'll certainly catch more big fish on his Abu's than I will,(but i hope to someday be able to get better at that anyway).heck i've not had alot of faith in Quantum but some guy named Kevin does pretty well with them.If I ever got to that level I'd see if i could get a custom Rhino rod and Zebco reel because I started out with them.
David P reply :
Although I haven't fished Steez reels, I prefer my STXs to my Zillions, Fuegos, and SOL any day. I don't think he's "Down" grading much at all. Although I'm sure the Steez is in a league of it's own, given the price difference.
b.Lee reply :
I don't see why it matters what company any pro goes to, catching fish has nothing to do with the equipment really. Every company makes a quality product and everyone has a preference.
Bigs reply :
even tho Abu doesnt make anything in the same league as a steez, I still think he will catch just as many fish. I know guys with 50 dollar reels that will outfish most people. Rod's probably have a lil more to do with catchin fish but even still, look at skeet reese, his rods are junk and he outfishes everyone. And to even imply that Abu is above shimano is just flat out ignorant. Daiwa and shimano make all their 170 dollar plus reels in Japan for the most part, Abu charges you 200 bux for a heavy revo that is made in Korea ? Umm ya. Bass pro shops has 100 dollar reels that are made in korea. I am a daiwa man but I know shimano and daiwa are pretty much equal, it's like comparing bmw and mercedes. Different strokes for different folks but plz dont even mention abu in the same breath as daiwa and shimano. Oh and if you really think for a second that KVD's reels are stock then you're crazy, those reels have to be tweaked big time. No reel of that qaulity could stand up to 300+ days of fishing a year like KVD does. Im sure he goes thru new reels all the time but they couldnt be stock.
rubba bubba reply :
Steve - the reel wars are a source of entertainment on here; don't take everyone so seriously as they are having a lot of fun with it in this thread.
0119 reply :
I think KVD uses stock reels along with stock rods and strike king lures. He's just afforded cases and cases of all of them and uses them like we use disposable razors. Probably the same with his nitro boat, he must have a storage yard at his mansion with extras ready to go.
Sherlock 60 reply :
QuoteI would rather take less money from Daiwa and fish with a better product than take more money and fish ABU.
Yeah...right...
Sherlock 60 reply :
The press release said he will be fishing both ABU rods and reels.
By the way, the "reel wars" discussions here are a hoot. Everybody has their favorites, but most folks understand much of the back and forth is tongue in cheek.
Pantera61 reply :
Quoteeven tho Abu doesnt make anything in the same league as a steez, I still think he will catch just as many fish. I know guys with 50 dollar reels that will outfish most people. Rod's probably have a lil more to do with catchin fish but even still, look at skeet reese, his rods are junk and he outfishes everyone. And to even imply that Abu is above shimano is just flat out ignorant. Daiwa and shimano make all their 170 dollar plus reels in Japan for the most part, Abu charges you 200 bux for a heavy revo that is made in Korea ? Umm ya. Bass pro shops has 100 dollar reels that are made in korea. I am a daiwa man but I know shimano and daiwa are pretty much equal, it's like comparing bmw and mercedes. Different strokes for different folks but plz dont even mention abu in the same breath as daiwa and shimano. Oh and if you really think for a second that KVD's reels are stock then you're crazy, those reels have to be tweaked big time. No reel of that qaulity could stand up to 300+ days of fishing a year like KVD does. Im sure he goes thru new reels all the time but they couldnt be stock.
You may want to check out the new Abu Morrum ZX1600/16001 IVCB-4
roadwarrior reply :
As Fred Flintstone would say,
ABBA-dabba-do!
;D ;D ;D
SWMIBASSER reply :
QuoteI think KVD uses stock reels along with stock rods and strike king lures. He's just afforded cases and cases of all of them and uses them like we use disposable razors. Probably the same with his nitro boat, he must have a storage yard at his mansion with extras ready to go.
As someone who has been in the boating industry for 10 years now, I feel fine telling you you are dead wrong about Nitro.
I don't own, or have ever owned a Nitro.
But I do know quality construction, fit and finish, and features and Nitro is as good a boat as anyone.
Tracker group has the money to risk making decisions that has done nothing but help them further their business, and I assume they will continue to do so.
Fat-G reply :
QuoteQuoteI would rather take less money from Daiwa and fish with a better product than take more money and fish ABU.Yeah...right...
No kidding
bilgerat reply :
I can't believe a pro changing sponsers yet again pokes a stick into the Abu vs. Shimano vs. Daiwa vs. whoever bees nest. It means nothing.
If KVD signed on with Pocket Fisherman today, by tomorrow they would be the best thing in the world in some people's eyes.
Do you REALLY factor in what a pro uses when you make an equipment purchase ?
shootermcbob reply :
No. Not what, but HOW is important to me for learning purposes. For example, if I watch on TV. how some pro is fishing a fluke,lipless crankbait, etc. I will make a note of type of equipment, line specs, reel ratio, etc. I could care less what brand it is. I myself am a big Cabelas baitcaster fan. I am waiting for them to sign me up ;D
bmadd reply :
Actually I do factor what pros really use and not what they say they use. I think it says a lot for the baits the pros use that aren't sponsored by or rods that aren't their signature series.
Bassnajr reply :
I would bet that a big part of this deal is that Abu is going to allow Ike to help design/make/sell and profit $$$$ from a QUALITY line of rods/reels. I looked at the Iaconelli rods and reels made FOR him by Daiwa that they tried to make look like the Steez set-up for the blue collar fisherman. They are now on the way to the bargin bin if they are not there already. I have not fished the Reese rods/reels but the price is good, I just wonder about the quality?? I fish the Light and Tough rods...they are great for the price. I also fish Cumaras and the Odd Carrot Stix. I don't fish them because Ike or anyone else fishes them, nor will I fish solely Abu or Berkley products because he is the new sponsor. I think most of the members here are above that. They test products, what they like...they buy and use.
JMHO
AJR
Bassnajr reply :
QuoteI can't believe a pro changing sponsers yet again pokes a stick into the Abu vs. Shimano vs. Daiwa vs. whoever bees nest. It means nothing.If KVD signed on with Pocket Fisherman today, by tomorrow they would be the best thing in the world in some people's eyes.
Do you REALLY factor in what a pro uses when you make an equipment purchase ?
Hey....lay off the pocket fisherman!! I am pretty sure the guy who made and marketed that is from Rhode Island. We don't have much so give us a break!!!!! ;D
central.PA.bass reply :
I bet Abu is gonna come out with an Ike rod series.. I bet it will be based off of the Vendetta... You might even see Ike fishing with a Vendetta
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteI would bet that a big part of this deal is that Abu is going to allow Ike to help design/make/sell and profit $$$$ from a QUALITY line of rods/reels. I looked at the Iaconelli rods and reels made FOR him by Daiwa that they tried to make look like the Steez set-up for the blue collar fisherman. They are now on the way to the bargin bin if they are not there already. I have not fished the Reese rods/reels but the price is good, I just wonder about the quality?? I fish the Light and Tough rods...they are great for the price. I also fish Cumaras and the Odd Carrot Stix. I don't fish them because Ike or anyone else fishes them, nor will I fish solely Abu or Berkley products because he is the new sponsor. I think most of the members here are above that. They test products, what they like...they buy and use.JMHO
AJR
There is a reason these companies sign deals with the pro's.
You'd be surprised how many people buy equipment endorsed by these guys. So many people are just star struck and they'll all line up to buy a particular pro's items.
Copen1822 reply :
Ike and all other pro fishermen are business men. Period. If you think that they fish a certain brand because they think it's the best then you are sadly mistaken. All the major company's make trail worthy equipment. All pro fishermen need to be business men even more then they need to be the best fishermen if they want to support themselves.
Bassnajr reply :
Money is one thing for sure, but to have your name on something you truly believe in as well, I am sure thats important to these guys egos as well.
And then of course there's ..um....the money!!!
angler1 reply :
If someone was paying me to endorse a product, i would do it even if it was a stick, rope, and bone for the hook. The man's gotta make money right?
Bassnajr reply :
QuoteIf someone was paying me to endorse a product, i would do it even if it was a stick, rope, and bone for the hook. The man's gotta make money right?
That is a good question. I guess it depends on what type of person you are. To me, telling other people to buy a "great item" that I think is crap just for the money is not something I would do. That's just me. :-
BTW any of you guys want to dump those crappy Light and Tough rods now that Ike has gone to Abu, just PM me!!!!!
Boogey Man reply :
The new Ike Revo will be black with red flames, the bearings will scream "never give up!" during the cast. It will be loud, controversial, and unpredictable on the water but people will say "it's totally different off the water". And included in the box along with the manual and oil will be a newly designed reel takedown tool that now features a handy built-in mute button
Dan: reply :
QuoteQuotehe'll never become a "Shimano man" because they don't need to get endorsements from pros to sell reels. ;DKota Kirayama, Morizo Shimizu and Bernie Shultz quickly come to mind.
fair enough, but also consider that those guys have no where near the status as Abu's guys and Pure fishing surely outspends Shimano or Daiwa on endorsement deals. I bet Abu spends at least twice as much on endorsements as either Shimano or Daiwa. I don't blame them or hold it against them, I'm just sayin'
bilgerat reply :
QuoteMoney is one thing for sure, but to have your name on something you truly believe in as well, I am sure thats important to these guys egos as well.And then of course there's ..um....the money!!!
One example is Boyd Duckett leaving E-21 ALLEDGEDLY because they were not building the rods to his liking and he did not want to be associated with the poorer quality rods being sold. I say allegedly because unless you work for E-21 or are Mr. Duckett himself, you don't know the whole story.
The other extreme is KVD who has his name on who knows how many products. I'll bet even he doesn't know. I'm not criticizing him at all, you don't get to his position being a lousy fisherman. When you see KVD Barbeque Sauce in the supermarket, then you know they've gone too far.
roadwarrior reply :
Well, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorses
EVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
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Bassnajr reply :
QuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
Yeah RW..I agree but ya just gotta love that Bill Dance!!!
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
:
Did he ever endorse the Helicopter Lure or the Power Cast rod?
South FLA reply :
Good for Ike! Go tear them up Ike with "Abu" this year Quantum three years from now, and Ardent after that. He'll eventually go the path of Bill Dance and Roland Martin and endorse just about any company that is willing to give him $$$. Isn't marketing great?!
My objective rankings below
1.Daiwa/Shimano (You pick)
2. Abu
3. Pflueger/Quantum
4. Ardent/Okuma/US Reel, etc
Hammer 4 reply :
QuoteQuoteMoney is one thing for sure, but to have your name on something you truly believe in as well, I am sure thats important to these guys egos as well.And then of course there's ..um....the money!!!
One example is Boyd Duckett leaving E-21 ALLEDGEDLY because they were not building the rods to his liking and he did not want to be associated with the poorer quality rods being sold. I say allegedly because unless you work for E-21 or are Mr. Duckett himself, you don't know the whole story.
The other extreme is KVD who has his name on who knows how many products. I'll bet even he doesn't know. I'm not criticizing him at all, you don't get to his position being a lousy fisherman. When you see KVD Barbeque Sauce in the supermarket, then you know they've gone too far.
Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me.
Bassnajr reply :
"Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me."
One BIG difference......all of the profits from Mr. Newman's products went to charity ALL OF IT!!!
fathom reply :
jeez, folks.
he cut a better deal...wouldn't read into it anymore than that...does kvd fish quantum because he likes it or because he gets paid for it?
it ain't like a fisherman never lied.
Hammer 4 reply :
Quote"Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me."
One BIG difference......all of the profits from Mr. Newman's products went to charity ALL OF IT!!!
Just pointing out that, there's really no limits on what a person can market.
Curious, how do Know all profits went to charity.?
Bassnajr reply :
I saw a show on it when he passed away. I watch to much TV...no doubt!!!!
Hammer 4 reply :
Oh..I thought you were his accountant or something.. ;D
QuoteI saw a show on it when he passed away. I watch to much TV...no doubt!!!!
Bassnajr reply :
QuoteOh..I thought you were his accountant or something.. ;DNow that's funny right there!!!!!! ;D
QuoteI saw a show on it when he passed away. I watch to much TV...no doubt!!!!
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteGood for Ike! Go tear them up Ike with "Abu" this year Quantum three years from now, and Ardent after that. He'll eventually go the path of Bill Dance and Roland Martin and endorse just about any company that is willing to give him $$$. Isn't marketing great?!My objective rankings below
1.Daiwa/Shimano (You pick)
2. Abu
3. Pflueger/Quantum
4. Ardent/Okuma/US Reel, etc
Yup, he can walk down that path with Skeet Reese who dumped his rod contract to go with a real no-name rod company or Greg Hackney who dumped his boat company to go with a less known boat company.
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
I don't see why this is a big deal. From what I understand, he was let go from daiwa, if that's true, why not sign with Abu, he already is sponsored by Berkley. It's kinda like he's a free agent that signed with another team.
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteQuoteGood for Ike! Go tear them up Ike with "Abu" this year Quantum three years from now, and Ardent after that. He'll eventually go the path of Bill Dance and Roland Martin and endorse just about any company that is willing to give him $$$. Isn't marketing great?!My objective rankings below
1.Daiwa/Shimano (You pick)
2. Abu
3. Pflueger/Quantum
4. Ardent/Okuma/US Reel, etc
Yup, he can walk down that path with Skeet Reese who dumped his rod contract to go with a real no-name rod company or Greg Hackney who dumped his boat company to go with a less known boat company.
Wright & McGill are a no name company? :
5bass reply :
QuoteI don't see why this is a big deal. From what I understand, he was let go from daiwa, if that's true, why not sign with Abu, he already is sponsored by Berkley. It's kinda like he's a free agent that signed with another team.
I agree. He's just on a different team now. No big deal.
rubba bubba reply :
QuoteIf KVD signed on with Pocket Fisherman today, by tomorrow they would be the best thing in the world in some people's eyes.
Are you implying the Pocket Fisherman is *not* all that? If so, I think you and I are going to have to take it outside...
Simp reply :
QuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
:
Ya I mean seriously what's with all those horrible Tennessee hats he wears.
tkite16 reply :
QuoteI would rather take less money from Daiwa and fish with a better product than take more money and fish ABU. Money does talk though. And Im sure he has his own reasons.
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MtCarmelTriton20x reply :
QuoteQuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
:
Ya I mean seriously what's with all those horrible Tennessee hats he wears.
Hey easy on the TN hat....That is probably the most valuable item in his boat. ;D
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteGood for Ike! Go tear them up Ike with "Abu" this year Quantum three years from now, and Ardent after that. He'll eventually go the path of Bill Dance and Roland Martin and endorse just about any company that is willing to give him $$$. Isn't marketing great?!My objective rankings below
1.Daiwa/Shimano (You pick)
2. Abu
3. Pflueger/Quantum
4. Ardent/Okuma/US Reel, etc
Yup, he can walk down that path with Skeet Reese who dumped his rod contract to go with a real no-name rod company or Greg Hackney who dumped his boat company to go with a less known boat company.
Wright & McGill are a no name company? :
Rod wise? C'mon, now. Compared to Lamiglas? Prior to Skeet signing with them, how many people were running around with Wright and McGill bass rods? Skeet put them on the map. I believe Ike will give a boost, a little "street cred" to Abu rods.
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGood for Ike! Go tear them up Ike with "Abu" this year Quantum three years from now, and Ardent after that. He'll eventually go the path of Bill Dance and Roland Martin and endorse just about any company that is willing to give him $$$. Isn't marketing great?!My objective rankings below
1.Daiwa/Shimano (You pick)
2. Abu
3. Pflueger/Quantum
4. Ardent/Okuma/US Reel, etc
Yup, he can walk down that path with Skeet Reese who dumped his rod contract to go with a real no-name rod company or Greg Hackney who dumped his boat company to go with a less known boat company.
Wright & McGill are a no name company? :
Rod wise? C'mon, now. Compared to Lamiglas? Prior to Skeet signing with them, how many people were running around with Wright and McGill bass rods? Skeet put them on the map. I believe Ike will give a boost, a little "street cred" to Abu rods.
ok....I'll give ya that, I've heard they make a darn good fly rod though. They really weren't associoated with bass fishing, as far as I know, other than Eagle Claw.
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
:
Ya I mean seriously what's with all those horrible Tennessee hats he wears.
Hey easy on the TN hat....That is probably the most valuable item in his boat. ;D
Hold on now....it maybe up there but he always has a bottle of KVD L&L and BTS
cart7t reply :
QuoteQuote"Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me."
One BIG difference......all of the profits from Mr. Newman's products went to charity ALL OF IT!!!
Just pointing out that, there's really no limits on what a person can market.
Curious, how do Know all profits went to charity.?
If you're not aware of Paul Newmans history of giving to charitable causes I suggest you look it up.
Mr. Newman has a long history of selfless giving that goes beyond his salad dressing, popcorn or any of the other products that bore his name.
SWMIBASSER reply :
QuoteQuoteQuote"Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me."
One BIG difference......all of the profits from Mr. Newman's products went to charity ALL OF IT!!!
Just pointing out that, there's really no limits on what a person can market.
Curious, how do Know all profits went to charity.?
If you're not aware of Paul Newmans history of giving to charitable causes I suggest you look it up.
Mr. Newman has a long history of selfless giving that goes beyond his salad dressing, popcorn or any of the other products that bore his name.
And that is besides the fact that his salsa and salad dressing is GREAT!
Newmans own Pineapple Salsa is the best ever!
chasiubao73 reply :
QuoteWell, I'm a big fan of Mr. Bill Dance, but he endorsesEVERYTHING! It's really past the point of being
meaningful.
:
I remember the zebco episode of Bill Dance when he was fishing with one of the heads of zebco and he said: "let us switch and fish these bass with our zebcos for the rest of the show." It was a hoot to watch.
As for Ike, this is a clear example of his mantra: "Never Give Up."
Bassnajr reply :
Forget about ike...I hear those vendetta rods are well worth the $$$$.
Any response???
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteForget about ike...I hear those vendetta rods are well worth the $$$$.Any response???
I got 4 of them. Nice rods but my baits keep bouncing off the surface now! I'll have to wait for softer water conditions to continue my research.
Stasher1 reply :
QuoteQuoteForget about ike...I hear those vendetta rods are well worth the $$$$.Any response???
I got 4 of them. Nice rods but my baits keep bouncing off the surface now! I'll have to wait for softer water conditions to continue my research.
Sounds like you need to add more weight.
Sherlock 60 reply :
QuoteQuoteQuote"Remember Paul Newman the actor/racecar driver...well, he came out with BBQ sauce, and salad dressing..In todays world, Nothing would surprise me."
One BIG difference......all of the profits from Mr. Newman's products went to charity ALL OF IT!!!
Just pointing out that, there's really no limits on what a person can market.
Curious, how do Know all profits went to charity.?
If you're not aware of Paul Newmans history of giving to charitable causes I suggest you look it up.
Mr. Newman has a long history of selfless giving that goes beyond his salad dressing, popcorn or any of the other products that bore his name.
It has been common knowledge for 20 years that his food company profits went to charity. There were a number of news stories documenting the charitable donations.
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