ICAST 2017 rumors/news? 2024
Megastink reply :
It's that time of year!!! Post about the new baits, rods, reels, whatever you hear about. I'll go first:
-Strike King Mini Menace
-Strike King 2.5" Rage Swimmer
-Rapala Ripstop
-Shimano Curado K
-*** *** reel
-Lews Superduty
Thats all I've got. Post what you see out there!
Montanaro reply :
Sunline cranking fc
Not sure how it differs from reaction
Megastink reply :
On 6/30/2017 at 9:41 AM, Montanaro said:Sunline cranking fc
Not sure how it differs from reaction
New box?
IndianaFinesse reply :
Megastrike clacker cavitron.
fishwizzard reply :
A 2.5" Rage Swimmer will be nice to have. The tiny Fat Impacts are great for small streams but get distroyed so quickly.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Heres the ultimate-surprise at ICAST 2017-
Glenns taking me and my buddies to dinner at Delmonicos Steak House and hes buying
Lets hear it for Glenn
Horaaaaaayyy !!!!
I might have a few more surprises -there as well
John Loughlin reply :
On 6/30/2017 at 11:08 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:Heres the ultimate-surprise at ICAST 2017-
Glenns taking me and my buddies to dinner at Delmonicos Steak House and hes buying
Lets hear it for Glenn
Horaaaaaayyy !!!!
I might have a few more surprises -there as well
Delmonico's?!? Glenn's taking me to TGI Fridays! 
Looking forward to seeing you out there Bobby!
onetime reply :
I'd like to hear info on the new NRX/Conquest.
Megastink reply :
I know Duckett is working on a new high-end rod, the Black Ice. Not sure if it'll be at ICAST this year or not.
j bab reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 12:01 AM, onetime said:I'd like to hear info on the new NRX/Conquest.
I wonder if they'll bring the BFS Conquest over here... I doubt it
j bab reply :
Oh and don't forget about the savage gear 3d bat!
fishballer06 reply :
Bill Lewis is supposed to be releasing something "Ground Breaking".
Ike and Palaniuk have both stated that VMC is releasing a weedless Neko hook. Brandon used it to help him win the Sam Rayburn tournament.
Megastink reply :
I'm guessing Abu is releasing a Gen4 Revo line, seeing as everything is on sale right now and it's been a few years since a Revo revamp.
J Francho reply :
I want to see what is at the Bonafide/Yakattack booths.
New boat and transducer arm to debut.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Ive gone to ICAST 15 years in a row now- Last year I walked around and its turning into an apparel store- Same old stuff with someone else having their name on it. Nothing said i had to have it. What happened to people thinking and having innovation. Time for me to return from my one year off and get it done
kylek reply :
https://www.bassmaster.com/gear/slideshow/199-new-products-icast-2017
this was on bassmaster.com
fishwizzard reply :
I work in the trade show industry and am already scheming on how to get myself down there. I have never done a show where I have had the slightest interests in the industry it's for, but man, getting paid to wander the floor at ICAST would be a real treat.
j bab reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 2:01 AM, Bunnielab said:I work in the trade show industry and am already scheming on how to get myself down there. I have never done a show where I have had the slightest interests in the industry it's for, but man, getting paid to wander the floor at ICAST would be a real treat.
That's how I felt when I worked the cabelas booth at the 2016 classic 
On 7/1/2017 at 1:39 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:Ive gone to ICAST 15 years in a row now- Last year I walked around and its turning into an apparel store- Same old stuff with someone else having their name on it. Nothing said i had to have it. What happened to people thinking and having innovation. Time for me to return from my one year off and get it done
Let's see it!
On 7/1/2017 at 12:48 AM, fishballer06 said:Bill Lewis is supposed to be releasing something "Ground Breaking".
they said that about the stutterstep and i wasn't impressed!
moguy1973 reply :
16" fishfinder. 
fishballer06 reply :
Just flipped through that Bassmaster article and a few things caught my eye.
1. A Curado branded rod line from Shimano.
2. A $650-675 rod line from Loomis/Shimano. Yikes!
3. A new Veritas.
4. A new line of Smoke reels from Quantum.
RichF reply :
I'm wondering if the St. Croix Legend X is replacing the Legend Xtreme...
RMax reply :
I can guarantee its going to be overloaded with new topwater baits.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 12:25 AM, j bab said:
Oh and don't forget about the savage gear 3d bat!
Pretty excited about it personally. Couple of Zman soft baits I'm excited for too.
For the guys to the north, They're coming out with an awesome looking new line thru perch bait.
MittenMouth reply :
I wish it wasn't in Orlando. If it was anywhere else I would go this year.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 6:05 PM, MittenMouth said:I wish it wasn't in Orlando. If it was anywhere else I would go this year.
Unless it's changed this year, it's invitation only.
MittenMouth reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 6:16 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Unless it's changed this year, it's invitation only.
So even if you are affiliated with the industry you can't register and request a pass?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 6:27 PM, MittenMouth said:So even if you are affiliated with the industry you can't register and request a pass?
I'm not sure exactly how that would work, but I know it's not open to the public.
dsqui reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 6:38 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm not sure exactly how that would work, but I know it's not open to the public.
Wow I cast isn't open to the public kinda messed up
Glenn reply :
This is NOT a consumer event. Nobody is selling products anyway. It's NOT a sportsman's show. If you're not there to work, then stay at home.
It's not invite only, but they do check your credentials before allowing you to register, and the price tag starts at $100.
Honestly, I wish they would be much more strict about this. They've been letting in too many gawkers, vloggers, and fans the past few years. The industry and media people are there to work and get things done, and the amateurs get in the way of that. At best, they're distracting. At worst, they prevent you from getting work done, and/or steal your work.
Last year, I was interviewing KVD, and there was a crowd of about 25 fans and vloggers standing right behind the camera (that's a HUGE no-no at this event). One of them had his little home movie sonycam and was standing inches away from my camera. The rest were either recording MY interview with their phones, or snapping flash pictures during it. Extremely unprofessional. I later discovered several had posted videos of MY interview on their vlogs.
There's many, many other examples (pushing and crowding out media and buyers, getting in way of your shots, asking for autographs of people while you're trying to interview them, taking items from exhibitor booths, interfering/interrupting meetings, and more unprofessional behavior). I've heard the complaints from my colleagues increase dramatically over the past few years as well, both exhibitors and media.
ICAST used to throw out people who didn't belong there. But it seems they've gone lax on it. That said, I think the industry folks had enough of it last year, and complained loudly to ICAST.
Guys, I understand your excitement, but unless you're working a booth, a wholesaler, or credentialed media from an established company (a personal blog doesn't count), then please stay away from the event and let people do their jobs.
Thanks!
Bobby Uhrig reply :
It's a freakn dog and pony show. Over priced everything, booth,set up,carpet,lights, cost me 10000 to go every year. So look at the bassmasters link and as you see ,same cranks jerbaits,frogs,reels,rods,jigs. Oh I'm done ,the innovation is gone. Time for me to come out of retirement as start playing again.
fissure_man reply :
Maybe I’m the only one, but the last two posts leave a sour taste for me.
@Glenn the tone of your post comes across as pretty elitist. Why shouldn’t anyone who qualifies to buy a ticket be allowed to participate? The rules are on ICAST’s site, and ultimately ICAST gets to decide who is allowed in.
“Pirating” interviews and other unprofessional behaviour is not cool, and so there are written and unwritten rules against it. Otherwise, attending a show like ICAST is probably a great place for the ‘distracting amateurs’ to make some connections and grow. Like it or not, vloggers are an increasingly important part of sport fishing media, and I’m sure the exhibitors are happy to have their interest and support. If it’s crowded, that means there’s a lot of interest, and that’s a good thing for you.
@Bobby Uhrig You make some great products, but come on 
There are plenty of other innovators out there. Stick to wowing us with your creations and you won’t have to toot your own horn, your customers will do it for you.
Glenn reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 3:36 AM, fissure_man said:@Glenn the tone of your post comes across as pretty elitist.
Not elitist at all - nothing further from the truth. How would you like it if you were trying to do your job, and a bunch of people who know nothing about your job jumped in your way and interfered with your work - preventing you from doing your job, and then stole your work and called it their own?
Please tell me how being upset about that is "elitist".
Now if you're there to legitimately work instead of gawk, then learn the ropes and professional etiquette before barging on the scene without respect for the other professionals around you. We all work together and help each other out. It's mutual respect and professionalism.
Again, it's not a sportsman's show. It's a professional trade show. Big difference.
cgolf reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 4:10 AM, Glenn said:
Not elitist at all - nothing further from the truth. How would you like it if you were trying to do your job, and a bunch of people who know nothing about your job jumped in your way and interfered with your work - preventing you from doing your job, and then stole your work and called it their own?
Please tell me how being upset about that is "elitist".
Now if you're there to legitimately work instead of gawk, then learn the ropes and professional etiquette before barging on the scene without respect for the other professionals around you. We all work together and help each other out. It's mutual respect and professionalism.
Again, it's not a sportsman's show. It's a professional trade show. Big difference.
Curious if you mentioned this to the ones closest to you? Helping educate some of the newbies on the do's and donts of covering the show might be appreciated by some. Heck they all gotta start somewhere and with proper mentoring they can become respectful journalists. Heck if it gets too bad it could impact even you by them banning all net based sites from the show, time will tell.
Ktho reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 6:39 AM, cgolf said:Curious if you mentioned this to the ones closest to you? Helping educate some of the newbies on the do's and donts of covering the show might be appreciated by some. Heck they all gotta start somewhere and with proper mentoring they can become respectful journalists. Heck if it gets too bad it could impact even you by them banning all net based sites from the show, time will tell.
DO: work for a retailer, manufacturer, distributor, or publication in their media/marketing dept.
DON'T: Decide Icast is a good time to decide start a freelance career
cgolf reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 6:48 AM, Ktho said:
DO: work for a retailer, manufacturer, distributor, or publication in their media/marketing dept.
DON'T: Decide Icast is a good time to decide start a freelance career
Agreed, but @Glenn as far as I know is only there based on the Bass Resource site. What I am talking about is the folks there from other sites like this for the first time that aren't showing the proper etiquette. I was just tossing out throwing some words of advice to these folks could help them out, since they don't realize what they are doing is wrong. Complaining about them to iCast won't change their behaviors, but with time they too could be a good information resource like Glenn.
Does a website = a publication nowadays?
Ktho reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 6:56 AM, cgolf said:
Agreed, but @Glenn as far as I know is only there based on the Bass Resource site. What I am talking about is the folks there from other sites like this for the first time that aren't showing the proper etiquette. I was just tossing out throwing some words of advice to these folks could help them out, since they don't realize what they are doing is wrong. Complaining about them to iCast won't change their behaviors, but with time they too could be a good information resource like Glenn.
Does a website = a publication nowadays?
Digital media is much a real and large player. Owning/running the largest largemouth bass focused website would garner some interest. What really would get their interest though whether it's Glenn or someone else is the impact that their site has. It's business, numbers rule, clicks and views baby. I have no doubt this website does a lot better than other digital, print or other sources.
cgolf reply :
For products looking forward to the Fireline ultra 8, use the original on all my spinning reels. The 3" TRD Hogz looks interesting, perhaps a good Helgie imitation. Also want to pick up the baby menace, see lots of applications for that.
As as for the innovation factor, there are still some possibilities out there, but now it is mostly tweaks to other baits. Heck even the Whopper plopper is a tweak on a Musky bait. The Prank popper/crank thing comes to mind, I may have to try one of those, kind of a cool idea.
fissure_man reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 4:10 AM, Glenn said:
Please tell me how being upset about that is "elitist".
I can understand the frustration, but it’s the organizers of ICAST that choose who gets to attend. If ICAST deems someone sufficiently qualified and they buy a ticket, then it’s fair game for them to show up.
The elitist part comes from suggesting that “vloggers”, “distracting amateurs”, and “people who know nothing about your job” (all of whom ICAST deemed qualified to attend) should bow out of participating to thin the crowds and make life easier for the likes of bassresource.com. Why would they?
I’m not advocating for unprofessionalism or theft, but to an extent I’d say dealing with trade show crowds is PART of the job, not something that prevents the job from being done. ICAST has clear rules about filming and photography, if you’re unhappy with the enforcement then that’s something to take up with ICAST (or confront the offender directly).
Being annoyed at inappropriate behavior is different than requesting that the “little fish” politely stay home while the “big kids” get their work done. The latter is how the first post came across to me, maybe I got it wrong.
Megastink reply :
Can we get back on track and post new products?
Glenn reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 8:23 AM, fissure_man said:Being annoyed at inappropriate behavior is different than requesting that the “little fish” politely stay home while the “big kids” get their work done. The latter is how the first post came across to me, maybe I got it wrong
That's not how I meant it at all. Apologies if it came across that way. I'm speaking specifically of the " Wow Icast isn't open to the public kinda messed up" comment, and stating WHY it's not open to the public. Plus the fact that ICAST seems to be letting more and more of the public in - people who have no business being there. Those are the folks causing the problems, not the "little fish".
Every year, there's a group of people that are like "Oh hey, there's a fishing show...I think I'll go sneak in." and then cause many of the problems I outlined.
Yes, many of the attendees do report those people, and they get escorted off the premises. But the issue is that A) ICAST is doing a poor job of screening those people out in the first place, and B ) Too many people think it's ok to sneak in "just to look around". Again ICAST needs to make their rules clear, upfront.
On 7/2/2017 at 8:49 AM, Megastink said:Can we get back on track and post new products?
Agreed. Too much has already been overblown and said. So, back to topic at hand.
Booyah just introduced the Flex II Squarebill. It's a foam-filled squarebill that acts like a balsa crankbait. I've been fortunate to try it out the past month. Here's my review: https://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/flex-II-squarebill-review.html
cgolf reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 9:20 AM, Glenn said:
Booyah just introduced the Flex II Squarebill. It's a foam-filled squarebill that acts like a balsa crankbait. I've been fortunate to try it out the past month. Here's my review: https://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/flex-II-squarebill-review.html
Any word if they bring the old X cal squarebill back? That was an awesome bait, liked that better than the lipless they brought forward in the Booyah line. That would be a very pleasent surprise.
Montanaro reply :
Sunlines cranking fc is exactly the same as their reaction fc....except colorless....are you kidding?!
Their siglon pe.x8 looks interesting. Wonder how it differs from their bx/fx
Glenn reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 9:28 AM, cgolf said:liked that better than the lipless they brought forward in the Booyah line.
The One Knocker is the same lure as the Xcalibur XR50 and XR75. Many people don't know that.
rboat reply :
Icast is a huge event, in a giant venue. I don't see why they could not add a day at the end and sell tickets to the general public. It would allow consumers a chance to come in and see all of the new stuff to get excited about and drive sales once the new items hit retail shelves. Lets face it, there would not even be an Icast without the consumers buying the products in the end game. They could save the last day for a public preview day. After Glenn and all of the companies have completed their work. General public could enter and view the new offerings that will enter the market. They would probably make enough on tickets that last day to pay for the entire event.
PS. Is Bill Lewis going to have the smaller size stutterstep out by then?
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Not trying to toot just if you go to icast you will see what I mean. I've talked to so many people that say the same thing . Believe me I use plenty of other companies lures. If it's catching fish I'm using it. It's just that I want to see new and innovative products. Again same frog with different paint jobs with someone else's name on it. I believe that the #1 issue with frogs is hook up ratios so move the freaknhook .crank baits ,do the death roll. Swim baits all swim good but dummy Bucca s probably impressed me the most but don't tell him. His head is bigger than mine . Cmon find the triggering qualities and apply them to new creations. Functionality is key.
And for the record I'm scoping out where Glenn is filming and going to all of the sudden get a case of whooping cough.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Ok here's my thought. I think that the most important piece of equipment or item to the fishing industry every year is the technology of fish finders. These things are a huge part of anglers arsenals now. Without them fishing off shore is a waste of time. 16 inch screens and unbelievable detailed imaging, gps it's like playing video games. It's probably the weakest part of my fishing skills. The younger anglers brought up in the computer age have this stuff down pat. Make them so old men like me can play.
And l forgot. In closing happy 4th and I would protect all of you with my life .
roadwarrior reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 11:15 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:Make them so old men like me can play.
BassWhole! reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 6:16 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Unless it's changed this year, it's invitation only.
Its a trade show, so technically you have to be in the business, but give them $150, and you are in. I'm registered, but I'm skipping it, I am going to Korea instead.
cgolf reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 11:15 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:Ok here's my thought. I think that the most important piece of equipment or item to the fishing industry every year is the technology of fish finders. These things are a huge part of anglers arsenals now. Without them fishing off shore is a waste of time. 16 inch screens and unbelievable detailed imaging, gps it's like playing video games. It's probably the weakest part of my fishing skills. The younger anglers brought up in the computer age have this stuff down pat. Make them so old men like me can play.
And l forgot. In closing happy 4th and I would protect all of you with my life .
Not a waste of time, all I use my finder for is a depth reading. Not buying into the new flashy technology, with it I might have never hooked up last week with the Smallie of a lifetime that we lost inches from the net. Take your pick, do you spend the time casting, maybe hooking up with a solitary giant or finding a school, or spend the time motoring around eyes glued to a screen. For me I would rather be fishing:)
I do see the plus sides of if for tourney anglers though during pre fishing to find fish and not disturbing them until it is go time.
Montanaro reply :
Icast is usually disappointing yes.
But you gotta realize that its not easy for companies to constantly come up with new lure designs or concepts every single year and stay profitable.
Everyone is usually reinventing the wheel.
BassWhole! reply :
On 7/3/2017 at 7:33 AM, Montanaro said:Icast is usually disappointing yes.
But you gotta realize that its not easy for companies to constantly come up with new lure designs or concepts every single year and stay profitable.
Everyone is usually reinventing the wheel.
You see this in most sporting goods hard goods. The equipment is better than required, and in no way the limiting factor to success. This leaves the industry with having to emphasize or even imagine miniscule or dubious "advantages" and "innovations". Having attended several different trade shows in sporting goods I'll leave ya'll with this:
Just because you like sausage and hot dogs doesn't mean it's a good idea to tour a slaughter house, and if you do, don't be "shocked" when they sweep the bits into the grinder
CybrSlydr reply :
Anyone heard anything about new kayaks available later this year? Looking at tax season 2018.
hoosierbass07 reply :
I'm interested in kayaks too. I'm wondering how many will be peddle or motorized this year if they will be really pushing those things hard.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Greatest fish catching device ever made. The senko. Period the end .
Megastink reply :
On 7/4/2017 at 2:00 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:Greatest fish catching device ever made. The senko. Period the end .
You mean it isn't the MEGASTICK??????????
??????
TxHawgs reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 12:11 AM, j bab said:I wonder if they'll bring the BFS Conquest over here... I doubt it
I very much doubt it as they would of already. Wouldn't u rather buy it much cheaper from Japan. He was talking about the new Shiloomis Conquest 700 dollar rod.
BassWhole! reply :
On 7/4/2017 at 2:00 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:Greatest fish catching device ever made. The senko. Period the end .
if by Senko you mean gill net, then, yeah.
TxHawgs reply :
On 7/1/2017 at 12:01 AM, onetime said:I'd like to hear info on the new NRX/Conquest.
I didn't hear or c anything about a new NRX did u? As for the Conquest I will have to own one...or several. Can't imagine or think it's possible to have built a stronger rod that is as light and sensitive as the NRX. But if it's really close in sensitivity and weight with Torzite guides and new color scheme (thank god) then I'm all in. Don't care about the strength have no problems with the NRX's. Looks like the added price would mostly be the expensive Torzites (which should be on the NRX) and there spiral X wrap or whatever they call it. And as far as weight and sensitivity we won't know till they come out. But I'm positive if they were more or the same in weight and sensitivity it would have been mentioned in their discription which talked about strength and the Torzites as they would make for a huge selling point.
Well I already pre ordered the Huk flip flops and sportsmans energy drink as they are clearly innovations ahead of there time!
Jon G reply :
Im interested in the St. Croix Legend X rods. They look pretty nice and I'm wondering how they compare to the Legend Elites
Tim Kelly reply :
On 7/4/2017 at 2:59 AM, Jon G said:Im interested in the St. Croix Legend X rods. They look pretty nice and I'm wondering how they compare to the Legend Elites
I imagine they are the same blanks, just a different build, and yet another hideous colour scheme! LOL
Glenn reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 11:01 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:And for the record I'm scoping out where Glenn is filming and going to all of the sudden get a case of whooping cough.
Oh like you didn't do that last time!
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Thats nothing watch and learn- Going to get a stripper
BassWhole! reply :
On 7/5/2017 at 10:42 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:Thats nothing watch and learn- Going to get a stripper
If only cosmetic companies and soft plastic companies could use the same glitter (I'm thinking orange and gold)...
MichiganBass80 reply :
I'm a KVD Squarebill fan, so I'm looking forward to the 4.0 Magnum.
Megastink reply :
Duckett will be unveiling the Black Ice Rods and Series 400 casting reels.
Both will be their top top of the line ($350-$400).
ISuckAtBassFishingBoise reply :
Abu Garcia announced the new Revo Gen 4 Line up live on Facebook today. 7 new reals all aluminum frames with oversize handles.
Revo X - $99 Sounds like its a re-badge of the Gen 3 Revo S. replacing the Orra lineup?
Revo S - $129.95 Sounds like its a re-badge of the Gen 3 revo SX.
Revo SX - $159.95 Sounds like its a re-badge of the Gen 3 Revo STX.
Revo STX - $199.95
Revo Premier - $299.95
Revo Winch - $199.95
Revo Inshore - $249.95
Almost all models offered in left hand.
Revo X - 6 models. 3 right, 3 left.
Revo S - 4 models. 2 right, 2 left.
Revo SX - 4 models. 2 right, 2 left.
Revo STX - 7 models, 3 right, 2 left. The 8.1 is only offered in right.
Revo Premier - 3 models, 2 right, 1 left. No left on the 7 gear ratio.
Revo Winch - 5.4 both left and right hand.
Revo Inshore - 7.3.1 both left and right hand
September release date.
Im looking at picking up a Revo S.
Turkey sandwich reply :
On 7/4/2017 at 1:09 AM, hoosierbass07 said:I'm interested in kayaks too. I'm wondering how many will be peddle or motorized this year if they will be really pushing those things hard.
Feelfree is finally releasing their motor/pedal drive for around $2500 on it's own and are offering a new kayak - even bigger than the Lures designed around it. I'm expecting the new boat to be in the Hobie price range. That being said, I've been trying to deal with their customer service for months over a rudder kit with missing pieces and it's been extremely frustrating to the point where I posted about it in their Facebook owners group asking if anyone has had similar bad experiences. Their response? Blocking me from the group. I generally like my boat, but the customer service (despite their continued insistence it's the best in the industry) will likely have me looking at the new Coosa w/pedal drive if/when I decide to upgrade.
Sam reply :
Good updates. Keep 'em coming.
imagine29028 reply :
the Tackle Warehouse videos on YouTube have been awesome! I'm really interested in the stuff from Lew's, Quantum, Zman, and Strike King.
I might get flack for this...but the Savage Gear stuff I can't even take seriously. A FRUCK? C'mon
J Francho reply :
On 7/13/2017 at 9:20 PM, imagine29028 said:I might get flack for this...but the Savage Gear stuff I can't even take seriously.
It's just your opinion, but keep in mind they keep this site afloat.
d-camarena reply :
Id feel a lot better throwing a suicide frog than a duck
imagine29028 reply :
On 7/13/2017 at 11:52 PM, J Francho said:
It's just your opinion, but keep in mind they keep this site afloat.
And that's fair...I didn't say anything bad about them. Its just different strokes for different folks.
Choporoz reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 11:15 PM, Bobby Uhrig said:....I think that the most important piece of equipment or item to the fishing industry every year is the technology of fish finders. These things are a huge part of anglers arsenals now. Without them fishing off shore is a waste of time. 16 inch screens and unbelievable detailed imaging, gps it's like playing video games. It's probably the weakest part of my fishing skills. The younger anglers brought up in the computer age have this stuff down pat. Make them so old men like me can play.
I think this is a great point. Ever tried to read a sonar manual? I mean, really. And don't even get me started on side scan....even one of the manufacturer's web sites use to say something like... if you don't get it...fold up a paper contour map like a Mad Magazine Fold-In...and just maybe...you'll sort of get it for five minutes....really? Just watch what happens when this 55 year old accidentally changes from having DS on a split to a single screen....takes me a week to get it back
Brett's_daddy reply :
Just out of curiosity @Glenn do they have a trade show/sportsman's show for the general public (i.e. Joe Q. Fisherman) that have all the new goodies and the professional personalities a la KVD etc.? If so then I totally agree with you that ICAST should be off limits to those who have no business being there but if not, that is ICAST's fault/oversight for not having one and if I was a vendor I would welcome the opportunity to show off my new wares to the public and generate even more interest in my products. After all if it weren't for the regular Joe fishermen nothing like ICAST would exist, even the tourney pro's that make millions of dollars from tournaments and advertising started out as just a regular guy who was most likely taught to fish by his father, grandfather, uncle or friend of the family...the fishing industry is driven by the general public's interest in the sport and not the hot shot tournament guys. If the general public's interest in fishing waned and/or they started turning a blind eye to fishing in general ICAST and all of these pro circuit tournaments would eventually dry up and disappear! I know when I was into saltwater reefkeeping they would have a HUGE national vendor show once a year called MACNA where all of the top vendors and new vendors to the industry would gather in a sportsman show style atmosphere to display all of their new products and to network with other vendors and this show was completely open to the public, all they had to do was buy a ticket as these vendors knew that the public was their meal ticket so they welcomed them with open arms. I may be off base here and if I am i apologize and like I said, if there IS a show similar to ICAST that is open to the general public then I agree 100% with you about keeping ICAST privatized and asking the general public to attend the vendor show made for their benefit!
J Francho reply :
Every industry has exclusive shows like iCast.
I know around here there are three or four outdoor/sportsman/hunting/fishing shows through the winter that are open to the public.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 2:52 AM, J Francho said:Every industry has exclusive shows like iCast.
Maybe if they just advertised ICAST through vendor channels and not post advertisements where the public can see and be notified that would cut down on the unwanted intrusions?
J Francho reply :
What unwanted intrusions? All I see are forum posts from people complaining that they can't get in. The show is for industry insiders. And where is being advertised? Again, from what I can tell, forums, like ours are promoting and sharing what is there, as are popular online retailers. What is also happening is retailers conducting business with manufacturers. It is a way to bring many makers together with many sellers, all at once. This can't happen in an environment where 10,000 Joe Fishermans are asking about the new 122.75 size Whopper Plopper.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 3:15 AM, J Francho said:This can't happen in an environment where 10,000 Joe Fishermans are asking about the new 122.75 size Whopper Plopper.
Like I said, as long as there is a large national show that IS open to the average Joe which has all the major vendors with their new products and the Pro personalities that many regular fishermen are a fan of then I don't have any problem with ICAST being exclusive. This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth :).
J Francho reply :
Bassmaster Classic, anyone?
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 3:31 AM, J Francho said:Bassmaster Classic, anyone?
Cool, now i know. I don't follow the professional tournaments much so I wouldn't know that but I'm glad there is an opportunity for the public to meet and greet the Pros and see all of the big name vendors and their new wares. Since that is the case I would side with Glenn on keeping ICAST geared towards a place for vendors to network with people on the inside of the fishing industry!
12poundbass reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 2:52 AM, J Francho said:Every industry has exclusive shows like iCast.
I know around here there are three or four outdoor/sportsman/hunting/fishing shows through the winter that are open to the public.
I'm my area we have outdoor/fishing/hunting/boat shows. There's about 4-5 different ones from winter thru March. All of them unfortunately have turned into a flea market with nothing but junk and crap unrelated to what the show is all about. When I was a kid they were a ton better. Oh well. If you look at Bassmaster you can see a lot of the new products at ICAST. Saves me the money to travel and dealing with a ton of people.
david in va reply :
Well this is what I have learned; about 25 % of guys here buy 95% of the reels, rods and tackle, the other 75% catch all the fish 
12poundbass reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 3:38 AM, Brett's_daddy said:Cool, now i know. I don't follow the professional tournaments much so I wouldn't know that but I'm glad there is an opportunity for the public to meet and greet the Pros and see all of the big name vendors and their new wares. Since that is the case I would side with Glenn on keeping ICAST geared towards a place for vendors to network with people on the inside of the fishing industry!
A lot of the big named vendors in the bass fishing and I'd say freshwater fishing world have 2 big shows every year. ICAST and the Bassmaster Classic. There are only 52 ish? Guys that fish the classic so there are a ton of pros that do work for their sponsors and companies at the expo. The expo keeps getting bigger and bigger every year, and I'm pretty sure it's free.
Scarborough817 reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 10:15 AM, Montanaro said:Sunlines cranking fc is exactly the same as their reaction fc....except colorless....are you kidding?!
Their siglon pe.x8 looks interesting. Wonder how it differs from their bx/fx
it's not the same at all look at the line diameter
Oklahoma Mike reply :
On 7/13/2017 at 11:52 PM, J Francho said:
It's just your opinion, but keep in mind they keep this site afloat.
And here I was thinking that it was Glenn's big wheeling amongst all the lowlife V-loggers at icast keeping this place up and running!
As for Savage Gear, yes, they do come out with some flops, but they do have a solid lineup of quality baits.
Montanaro reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 4:48 AM, Scarborough817 said:it's not the same at all look at the line diameter
I had looked at the time and they were the same. Wouldn't be first time TW published incorrect info and changed it.
NYWayfarer reply :
I have been watching some YouTube live vids from the event and am very excited about some of the products I have seen.
i am usually in Orlando at this time of year for vacation but my family and I decided to take a break from Disney this year. Just as well as I would not have been able to get into Icast as a fishing fanboy.
Scarborough817 reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 10:00 AM, Montanaro said:
I had looked at the time and they were the same. Wouldn't be first time TW published incorrect info and changed it.
12 lb test is .006"
bh91 reply :
Isn't the Fred hall show essentially the general public'S. Version ? Wish they would have those type of trade shows throughout the country
bowhunter63 reply :
That baby Menace will be great on a 1/4 ounce Swim jig.
Chance_Taker4 reply :
What I'm excited for
Gen 4 Revos
New Improved Yum Finesse Worm
Savage Gear 3D Bluegill
Rapala RipStop
Strike King 4.0 Squarebill
Rapala BX Brat Crank
d-camarena reply :
Im dissapointed in this years icast. Improbably. I was expecting-
1. Lews ledge heavy spinning rod
2. Yum to bring back the 7 inch senko
3. Huddleston magnum bluegill
4. Teckel magnum frog
5. Keitech swing impact fat in 6 or 7 inch
None of those were brought.
Only thing im interested is the livetarget bluegill swimbait. But i really dislike livetarget lures so i might not even get it
HeavyDluxe reply :
On 7/2/2017 at 3:36 AM, fissure_man said:
@Glenn the tone of your post comes across as pretty elitist. Why shouldn’t anyone who qualifies to buy a ticket be allowed to participate? The rules are on ICAST’s site, and ultimately ICAST gets to decide who is allowed in.
I think the issue is, sadly, that ICAST became such a phenomenon in the press and among the youtube anglers (who most of like to think are 'just guys' like us) that we no longer understand its purpose. That's what Glenn's getting at.
There are TONS of outdoors shows where vendors will display and sell their wares to us (the consumers). However, ICAST is intended to be a time of vendors to make contacts, build relationships, and sell product to THEIR DEALERS. The whole purpose here is about the BUSINESS of angling which, of course, most of us aren't really a part of that.
Glenn's point is that the more people are there just to gawk (like I would), the less space/time/resources the people running businesses that cater to fisherman - like Glenn's website, the rod/reel manufacturers, bait companies - have to make contacts that build their business.
Again, this is a monster of their own creation, but that's what it is. As a person who works in the tech industry, I always want to go to CES to see new gadgets but that's not really the purpose of that event. I went one year (because I work for someplace that gives me an entry) and I quickly realized that, while I loved seeing all the toys, I was in the way of the business that was supposed to be happening there. I paid my dime, so I wasn't too upset and didn't stop... But, I also didn't go back.
Yeajray231 reply :
On 7/14/2017 at 10:05 PM, bowhunter63 said:That baby Menace will be great on a 1/4 ounce Swim jig.
The regular menace is killer on a 1/4oz swim jig ! Lol..
They should have made a Magnum menace instead.
Glenn reply :
@HeavyDluxe
cgolf reply :
On 7/16/2017 at 3:16 AM, HeavyDluxe said:
I think the issue is, sadly, that ICAST became such a phenomenon in the press and among the youtube anglers (who most of like to think are 'just guys' like us) that we no longer understand its purpose. That's what Glenn's getting at.
There are TONS of outdoors shows where vendors will display and sell their wares to us (the consumers). However, ICAST is intended to be a time of vendors to make contacts, build relationships, and sell product to THEIR DEALERS. The whole purpose here is about the BUSINESS of angling which, of course, most of us aren't really a part of that.
Glenn's point is that the more people are there just to gawk (like I would), the less space/time/resources the people running businesses that cater to fisherman - like Glenn's website, the rod/reel manufacturers, bait companies - have to make contacts that build their business.
Again, this is a monster of their own creation, but that's what it is. As a person who works in the tech industry, I always want to go to CES to see new gadgets but that's not really the purpose of that event. I went one year (because I work for someplace that gives me an entry) and I quickly realized that, while I loved seeing all the toys, I was in the way of the business that was supposed to be happening there. I paid my dime, so I wasn't too upset and didn't stop... But, I also didn't go back.
Here is my two cents.
If this show were truly a dealer show, they should not be allowing the media, or just handle their own media through social media. The media is also their just gawking and potentially getting in the way of dealers that want to get in and make contacts with existing or new companies and place orders.
My guess if they did just that they might not get enough people to the show, so at some point they started to open it up. Have they opened it up too far, who knows, and probably depends on who you ask.
As as for the local regional shows, I have been to a couple and as some have stated, most big companies aren't there and obviously no new products aren't there, as somebody said it is like a flea market with some nice boats thrown in, a waste of time and I no longer go.
My background is the RC Plane/car world where their big show is open to the public, but they don't allow the companies to sell products directly at the show. The only buying and selling goes on in the swap meet and auction. I would guess the fishing tackle industry is bigger in number of anglers, not sure on the money part though. It could be done.
as some has said the real problem is how they market the thing and how all the new products hit the web. How do people that go not expect us bait monkey bit people not to want to go, we want to see all the new stuff too and maybe do a side trip to Disney World;)
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