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fishing user avatarfin reply : 

I think the eye is a pretty important part of a crankbait, but some lure makers don’t seem to give it much consideration, some even treat it like a joke. Obviously it’s not the most important thing, I mean you could leave the eyes off altogether and still get bit, but I think a realistic eye can help in creating an illusion that can make a difference in that split second decision a fish makes.

 

Lure makers seem to be very concerned about getting that shad dot on almost every lure made, which is not quite as important as the eye.

 

The high-end lure makers seem to take the eyes more serious, but not all of them do, and some of the low-end lure makers have very realistic eyes. It’s not like it’s very expensive to make realistic eyes.

 

Anyway, rain delay here, just bored and killing time, but it’s something that bugs me.

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fishing user avatarCrestliner2008 reply : 

I believe depth & speed control is far more important than whether or not a shad dot is on the bait. Same with eyes. If it were a suspending jerkbait, maybe, but I'll still rely on the basic patterns fished at the correct speed and depth every time. Some of the modern pattern are pretty realistic though. Bet they catch a lot of fishermen. :)


fishing user avatarBassWhole! reply : 

realistic finishes and detail, including eyes are meant to catch fishermen, not fish. Some of my best cranks are over 20 years old and barely have eyes (or paint in some cases).


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

I have a one eyed Sammy that outfishes all other walking spook baits.  I always wondered why bother with eyes on a topwater.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

I dont know how big of a role eyes have in getting bites with crankbaits  but I'm convinced  when    slowly fishing a jig and grub combo in a nearby river during cold water periods ,   eyes make a   difference . 


fishing user avatarBassWhole! reply : 
  On 4/19/2019 at 10:24 PM, J Francho said:

I have a one eyed Sammy that outfishes all other walking spook baits.  I always wondered why bother with eyes on a topwater.

Duh!, he's got more trouble seeing the predators coming hence can't get away as fast... :) 


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/19/2019 at 9:54 PM, Crestliner2008 said:

I believe depth & speed control is far more important than whether or not a shad dot is on the bait. Same with eyes. If it were a suspending jerkbait, maybe, but I'll still rely on the basic patterns fished at the correct speed and depth every time. Some of the modern pattern are pretty realistic though. Bet they catch a lot of fishermen. :)

I agree with all that, and I think even with a suspending jerkbait, if it doesn't move right, it's not going to get bit. And in most situations, the fish won't be able to even see the eyes on the bait.

 

The way I see it, you don't want anything on your bait that tells the fish NOT to bite it. It's not so important that a lure be totally realistic, but it's very important that the lure doesn't send a bad signal to the fish. If that makes any sense. So I don't see why the luremakers wouldn't make the eyes right.

 

And yeah, the eyes, like on the SPRO, are totally for the fishermen.


fishing user avatarThe Bassman reply : 
  On 4/19/2019 at 10:24 PM, J Francho said:

I have a one eyed Sammy that outfishes all other walking spook baits.  

You gotta wonder what someone who isn't familiar with bass fishing jargon would think of this.


fishing user avatarNorthernBasser reply : 

Megabass has the best eyes. They have the "oh crap, I think he saw me" look. 


fishing user avatarCrestliner2008 reply : 

If "realism" is important, please tell me why a bass would hit a fluorescent pink jerkbait? That pattern Rapala has caught me a lot of smallies in clear water. I'm most confident that there are no pink baitfish roaming around. :)


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/20/2019 at 11:01 PM, Crestliner2008 said:

If "realism" is important, please tell me why a bass would hit a fluorescent pink jerkbait? That pattern Rapala has caught me a lot of smallies in clear water. I'm most confident that there are no pink baitfish roaming around. :)

Same could be said about a lot of baits, red lipless is the first that comes to mind. Very productive, and it's supposed to symbolize a crawfish, but it doesn't really look or act like a crawfish unless you bounce it off the bottom, and even then, it still doesn't look much like a crawfish. Then there's that video of some guy catching a bass on a wrench. And the beer can lure. You can go on and on with the exceptions.

 

I don't know what goes on in a fish's head. I know I have more luck with baits that more closely resemble things in their environment, but they'll still bite the craziest things sometimes.

 

Underwater, in the right lighting and conditions, that pink jerkbait might look like something familiar, or the color might not be visible at all.


fishing user avatarIgotWood reply : 

For bass fishing I think the eye is pretty important. Bass typically attack larger prey at the head. The eyes are good for them to key in on when deciding to attack. 


fishing user avatarVilas15 reply : 
  On 4/20/2019 at 7:19 AM, fin said:

The way I see it, you don't want anything on your bait that tells the fish NOT to bite it.

All mine got hooks on them ????


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/20/2019 at 11:41 PM, Vilas15 said:

All mine got hooks on them ????

If fish were smart enough to know what hooks are we'd all be screwed. They don't know what eyes are either, not like we do, but eyes mean more to them than a hook.

 

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fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

No one is ever going to catch 100 per cent of the bass that see their lure . Can eyes up the percentage a few points ?  Maybe .


fishing user avatar928JLH reply : 

I reckon the red eye shad has been partaking in 4/20 festivities.spacer.png


fishing user avatarScott F reply : 
  On 4/21/2019 at 1:58 AM, 928JLH said:

I reckon the red eye shad has been partaking in 4/20 festivities.spacer.png

No, they just stay up all night. 


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/21/2019 at 6:23 AM, Scott F said:

No, they just stay up all night. 

Probably staying up all night worrying cause they know they're gonna get bit.


fishing user avatarBluebasser86 reply : 

No eyes on either side of this guy, hasn't been for over a year now, still my best fish producing rattle bait. Supposedly bass eat craw type baits with small or no claws better because they're defenseless. What's more defenseless than a blind baitfish?

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fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/21/2019 at 12:46 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

No eyes on either side of this guy, hasn't been for over a year now, still my best fish producing rattle bait. Supposedly bass eat craw type baits with small or no claws better because they're defenseless. What's more defenseless than a blind baitfish?

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Call me crazy, but I like that better than the red eyes for a gizzard shad.


fishing user avatarItsHardwick reply : 

Seems that all the custom balsa crankbaits that people are paying $20-$100 for these days have the big circle cartoon eyes on them. I know people that swear by these balsa cranks and say they get bit better than anything else. I can’t afford to lose a $40 crankbait so I wouldn’t know just an observation. 


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/22/2019 at 12:20 AM, ItsHardwick said:

Seems that all the custom balsa crankbaits that people are paying $20-$100 for these days have the big circle cartoon eyes on them. I know people that swear by these balsa cranks and say they get bit better than anything else. I can’t afford to lose a $40 crankbait so I wouldn’t know just an observation. 

There seems to be a style where the eyes are on the front, close together on top of the head, like the green Bagley Balsa B in the picture above. That looks to be totally for the fisherman, more for style and tradition than for the fish. Probably not even visible to the fish from their angle.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

About 30 years ago I went through a time period where eyes were critical, the color had to yellow on shad color lures and red on brown or green lures. I even glued eyes on my jigs. Then I stopped worrying about eyes and nothing changed, still caught the same number if bass regardless if the eyes were holograms, yellow or red it makes no difference. 

Tom


fishing user avatarVilas15 reply : 
  On 4/22/2019 at 3:55 AM, fin said:

There seems to be a style where the eyes are on the front, close together on top of the head, like the green Bagley Balsa B in the picture above. That looks to be totally for the fisherman, more for style and tradition than for the fish. Probably not even visible to the fish from their angle.

The fish's "angle" is different in every encounter. They don't look at baits from a perfect side view every time like the photo. Crankbaits especially roll and wiggle so that even eyes on top of the head are probably visible from the side.


fishing user avatarfin reply : 
  On 4/22/2019 at 5:09 AM, Vilas15 said:

The fish's "angle" is different in every encounter. They don't look at baits from a perfect side view every time like the photo. Crankbaits especially roll and wiggle so that even eyes on top of the head are probably visible from the side.

Of course, but that spot is probably the least visible spot on the lure to the fish.

  On 4/22/2019 at 4:58 AM, WRB said:

About 30 years ago I went through a time period where eyes were critical, the color had to yellow on shad color lures and red on brown or green lures. I even glued eyes on my jigs. Then I stopped worrying about eyes and nothing changed, still caught the same number if bass regardless if the eyes were holograms, yellow or red it makes no difference. 

Tom

I honestly never paid much attention to eyes myself, and I certainly don’t disqualify a lure because I don’t like the eyes. I’m just a little surprised with how most lure makers, who go through so much trouble to make perfect paint jobs put so little effort into the eyes.


fishing user avatarpapajoe222 reply : 

IMO, eyes on a bait are as important as the color of the bait. ????

Both are at the bottom of my list when choosing a bait.  Are there instances when the right color or the presence of eyes on a bait make the difference in catching or not? Ask the lure manufactures.




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