Good replacement for Gary Yamamoto senkos 2024

bbbking reply :

I am trying to find a comparable soft bait to gary yamamoto senkos. Something less expensive but just as good. Any recommendations?

Nick_Barr reply :

A Ghost Baits G-Stick

It is VERY Soft and LOADED with Salt and a secret Scented Ingredient.

It has a very similar. almost exact fall rate of the Senko and has an awesome wiggle on the way down.

Only $3.75 for 10

Gorgebassman reply :

Theres a good discussion in one of the senko forums that is kind of on that order but i personally use wave tiki sticks there more durable than a senko and cost alot less and I catch as man fish on a tiki as i do a senko.

The_Natural reply :

Tiki sticks and Yum Dingers are both good, but don't quite have the fall rate of a Senko.

roadwarrior reply :

Nope.

senko_77 reply :

the best replica of a real senko would be a hand pour

Brad_Coovert reply :

The best replica of a Senko is the Kinami Flash.

Brad

bass ackwards reply :

kinami baits have yamamoto enterprises on the bag and their only a 7 ct. bag. i agree on the wave worms. and they have some awsome colors.(yum yum)i eat 2 and i fish with the other 8.

Glenn reply :

This is answered in the Senko FAQ's

Bassassasin12 reply :

YUM dingers would be the only thing I would really use if I am gonna use a senko knockoff. But most of the time, I'll take the original.

guest reply :

Hey Im surprised Road Warrior didnt delete this whole thread. This is like sacraligious in his book

roadwarrior reply :

No, no, no.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, even when they're wrong!

I told LBH that I would NEVER get into this debate again, but heck, it's just too much fun...

I'm sure the knockoffs catch lots of fish, but I have had too much success with GYCB products to switch.

I fish a few other soft plastics: Slug-Go, Roboworms, Micro Munch Tackle El Gordo tubes and Mizmo tubes.

So there!

BTW, Brad_Coovert,

That was a clever reply...

Bankbeater reply :

I like the stik-o from BPS. I haven't really tried any other brand.

flyphisher # reply :

Cold Steel's Walking Stick is a great handpour. They are a GA company but I think they may have started selling though a distributor. You may be able to find them online now.

guest reply :

Hey b/c of my recent sucess using senko knock ooff I bought a bag of senkos and 2 other knock offs to compare them I also went to Senko FAQ( RW keeps you from bein lazy!) and realized I need to use wider hooks or at least larger? What brand hooks offer the lighest wire vs hook strength?

roadwarrior reply :

ITT XPoints.

These are the lightess, strongest and sharpest hooks made. Although there might be a couple of considerations for a slight adjustment in hook size to have the "perfect" size for a Senko/ knockoff, a 4/0 EWG generally fits the bill.

Marty reply :

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Tiki sticks and Yum Dingers are both good, but don't quite have the fall rate of a Senko.

Undoubtedly that statement is correct, but that's not necessarily a negative, as the Senko fall rate is not always going to be the best rate. I've caught numerous fish on the Yums, others swear by the Tiki Sticks. Although I use mostly Senkos, a couple of weeks ago I caught my best of the year on a Zoom Z-Nail. Just because Senko was the first doesn't mean it's the only game in town.

senko_77 reply :

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Cold Steel's Walking Stick is a great handpour. They are a GA company but I think they may have started selling though a distributor. You may be able to find them online now.

have you really had success with those things!?!? I am about to start selling my hand pours in a local tackle shop that carries them. I wasnt sure if I was holding a senko or a metal rod. Those things were stiff as a board.

roadwarrior reply :

Russ,

You have been MIA. I told you I would NOT do this again...Oh well...

I like your camera and I was never questioning your suggestions or sincerity. I just wish you were fishing the "right bait" so you could show us more tape and bigger bass...

Here is a simple formula for calculating the cost or value of your bait:

$1.00 for any bass caught

$100.00 for bass over 5 lbs

$1000.00 for bass over 10 lbs

Now, add up the dollar value of the number of bass caught, adjusting for the value assigned to size. Then subtract the cost of your baits from the total sum. Using this formula, you too will become a GYCB fan.

Fish Chris reply :

The Hud !

......so you can replace those 3 lb bass, with 13's ! ;-)

Peace,

Fish

Hightekrednek reply :

Man, fishermen are more opinionated than politicians! Use 'em all, sometimes it seems like one works better than the other, I have had days where the senko caught double the amount of the tiki-stick, and vice-versa. Besides, everyone who swears that the senko is the only stickbait that's worth the money is selling themselves short. What would you do if the bass were biting the sweet potatoe pie tiki-stick like crazy and you were only doing alright with your senkos(they don't come in that color scheme). By the sound of it, some of you would rather go fishless all day than even thinking of touching anything but the original senko :-?

guest reply :

Thanks RW Im going to look to pick some of those hooks up

Fish Chris reply :

Opinionated ? I resemble that statement ! :-) LOL

BTW, what wrong with going fishless all day ? Okay, sure I could throw a Senko, or a Tiki-stik, or any other "numbers" kind of bass lure..... and then I would certainly stand a better chance of sticking a few, or even a bunch, of small to medium sized fish. Only problem with that is, I'd have all but forgotten about those fish, by the time I pulled my boat off of the water.

On the other hand, if I get skunked five trips in a row, then on the 6th trip I stick a 10 to 13 lb'er, or maybe even bigger, not only will I remember that fish at the end of the day, but I'm liable to remember it next year.... heck, maybe even 10 years from now !

King of skunks :-)

Fish Chris

Captain Cali reply :

The Senko is the only stick bait I currently throw. Tried a few others but none catch fish, for me, as consistantly as the GYCB Senko does.

Fish Chris...I hope to one day have the same mindset you have. Big bass only!! 8-) That first 10 will probably do it. Gotta keep those hooks on the hudd sharp!

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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Russ,
You have been MIA. I told you I would NOT do this again...Oh well...

I like your camera and I was never questioning your suggestions or sincerity. I just wish you were fishing the "right bait" so you could show us more tape and bigger bass...

Everyone reading-FYI- Rw and I are great friends on different sides of a debate. We rib each other constantly on the subject but have full respect in order on both sides at all times, please don't confuse our poking as punching. I will say this though,...If RW and I were ever on the same team in a debate, the other side wouldn't stand a chance!

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RW- No that's just not fair, we don't have 10 lb bass up here.

If I did break down your formula to apply to RI however, then you just solidified my point for me.

I catch the largest class fish we have here, consistently, with the baits I use. Sure the Yamamoto bait would most likely do the same but that's my point. Why spend $.70/worm to catch the same fish that is attracted to a $.10 worm?

Money grow on trees down in Tennessee?

We have been knocking on the state records door lately and with our lake returning to it's former prime (Sizes are rising again, each yr.) (7's and 8's were around a few yrs back before draining for dam repair) Are you suggesting that there is a whole nuther size class in our lake that we won't find unless we are throwing GYCB's???

Now, I'm at least being fair, I threw GYCB's for a few years. How long did you throw a knock-off before you judged it inferior and which one? The ones I use are the exact same as a yum dinger.

If all you throw is one thing,...don't be surprised if that's what your fish are caught on. Kinda common sense.

If I send you a 10-pack,...will you give them an honest try?

roadwarrior reply :

LBH.

No, money does not grow on trees.

Yes,

I will fish your bait the rest of the summer. If your are offering Yum Dingers or any other specific brand that is readily available, I'll pick them up myself. If you are using someone's hand pour, I guess you'll need to send them.

This will be interesting. I will fish what ever you recommend EXCLUSIVELY for largemouth bass from now until the end of September and report results. Gosh, maybe even a picture.

You da man. Great idea...Game on!

Two qualifiers:

#1 I will fish these baits to prove you are RIGHT, not wrong. I will fish these baits exactly the way I would fish a Senko or I will fish them any way you recommend.

#2 I will fish the colors you select or the same basic colors I always fish, you make that call.

The point is that I don't want to change any other variable, just the lure. If you have some other ideas to make this more like a "blind" test, I'm up for that, too.

BTW,

The hot, bluebird days of summer have always produced my best largemouth bass. This is the best time of year to try this little experiment.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

See what I'm sayin folks? All good stuff here!!

RW-I'm on it. Need address again.

Go here and pick a couple colors that make you tingle.

sodaksker reply :

RW,

Thanks for taking the challenge and Russ thanks for offering it. I have to lean on RW's side as I tend to fish mainly Yamamoto products. I have always wanted to give others a try but, since my time on the water is so valuable I just stick with what I know works and more importantly what I have confidence in. Thanks for taking the time to try something different. I'm sure I am not the only one wanting to know the outcome, and best of all, with you guys running the study, we can be assured that no variables were compromised.

jomatty reply :

kinami arent cheaper there are less in the pack. they are garys sons company but the plastics are identical. i could be wrong but im pretty sure that is accurate.

matt

flyphisher # reply :

SENKO77,

I dont think they are stiff, They are more durable. The worm lizards have caught me alot of fish so far too.

Won $800 bucks in one tournament this spring dragging them over beds with a t-rigged with a tungsten wt.in really Heavy cover. I also fished them c-rigged and did well in clear water in cover, where a regular senko would be destryed quickly. Just my experience so far.

guest reply :

Hey LBH and or RW Im trying to get my schedule changed at work would iether of you like to be my agent? By the time you guys are done Ill be the Boss

Siebert Outdoors reply :

Those two but heads quite a bit.

I enjoy reading their posts when the are battling it out. Quite entertaining. I thank you guys. LOL

Their are so many brands and custom pours out now that are identical or extremely close its hard to chose one over the other. To me it depends on what you are looking for. Some are more durable and others like the senko have more action.

It mostly depends on how I am fishing them. If I'm fishing the honey hole or a smaller pond I wont waste my senkos I will throw the cheaper ones. But if I fish a tourney or the bite gets tough I will usually fall back to the senko. (Roadwarrior you can fuel the fire with that paragraph).

timmyswetarded reply :

dont forget the beloved zoom trick worm

guest reply :

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The best replica of a Senko is the Kinami Flash.
Brad

LOL

guest reply :

I personally buy the GY senkos and the Kinami Flash when I have the money. But I have found in my opinion a pretty good replacement to those baits when money is tight. You can find them at www.staminaInc.com They call them salty sink worms. The only down fall to this bait is that the company only offers 5 different colors, but luckly for me they have the two colors that I fish with. LOL

The cost is $12.80 per 50 or $1.60 per 5.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Yea,..there's a fact,lol.

Well guys, the baits are in the mail. This experiment has been sponsored by ***. Nothing like putting your money where your mouth is.

RW-I believe he sent Pumpkinseed (light colored, very nice), watermelon seed and watermelon/purple swirl. These are the colors I have been using in very clear, reservoir water. Please fish themexactly as you would if it were a GYCB on the hook, and that includes the hook.

I personally fish them wacky with a 3/0 circle or octopus 100% of the time but I have a weed friendly lake. Hydrilla on the bottom with floating pods. Very rarely gets weeds.

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The Hud !
......so you can replace those 3 lb bass, with 13's ! ;-)

Peace,

Fish

That would be 3 lbs over our state record,...Probably not gonna happen even if what I'm throwing is a net!

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#1 I will fish these baits to prove you are RIGHT, not wrong. I will fish these baits exactly the way I would fish a Senko or I will fish them any way you recommend.

How cool is that?!? You're not going to get a fairer, more non biased opinion on this one folks.

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BTW,

The hot, bluebird days of summer have always produced my best largemouth bass. This is the best time of year to try this little experiment.

That's just toooo funny. The last 2 days have been 98 degrees with not a cloud in the sky. No wind.

I have been out both days in the heat of the day and have been WHACKING them deadsticking these and the creature tubes filled with Yamamoto paste (megastrike) in the deep grass. No monsters yesterday but constant fish between 2.5 and 4 lbs. A great avg here when you're talking about numbers.

I made some video yesterday and wanted to get enough footage to finish it today. LONG STORY with short video here

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

In a PM from RW-

This is going to be fun. The only downside is always sticking with the same profile. I have already agreed to use these lures exclusively, but you know sometimes a Fat Ika, tube or Kreature is a better choice.

Anyhow, I'm focused to prove you right!

I'll send Brent a thank you note when I receive the baits.

I think it would be best represented if you fish it when and how you would fish a Gary senko. Keep it as real as possible,..if you would normally switch to a fat ika in a given situation, by all means do so because that keeps it equal. Otherwise you will be fishing the knock off more often than you would have been fishing a gycb senko, thusly tipping the scales. You dig?

oh yea,...bring the camera!! (and check the battery,lol!)

CATCH "EM UP!!

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

This is going to be great. MR. GYCB himself.

One thing though ....... I believe you only throw 6" Senkos ...... Right?? Me too (6 or 7 inch Dingers).

The only time I throw 5" Senkos are when wacky rigging. So I might suggest going to pick yourself up some Dingers in 6 or 7 inch vareity. That's where it seems to be a little more difficult to get some with the smaller on-line companies.

Another thing you will find with the knockoffs is they don't fly off your hook like the GYCB Senkos (VERY frustrating). At one of my lakes, the bass are gorging themselves with some big shad right now. Lots of the fish I am catching have tails sticking out of their throats, so I have been throwing a lot of the GYCB Senko (7" in the 239 color) that I bought in the bargain bin at Cabela's last year for about $2 a pack. Lots of them end up flying off the hook during a cast. I have NEVER had that happen with a Dinger or any other knockoff.

Glenn reply :

Bury the eye of the hook in the body, then stick a piece of cheap 40lb mono through the eye. It won't fly off ever again.

BassKing813 reply :

Tiki Sticks.

mudcatwilly reply :

Yum Dingers and dare I say...Berkeley Gulp, though not exactly a stick bait.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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Bury the eye of the hook in the body, then stick a piece of cheap 40lb mono through the eye. It won't fly off ever again.

Are you talking about T-rigging? It's "wacky" rigged when they come off. I cast hard,..long cast gets the bass in our clear water. I do send a couple off into the wild blue yonder but I've usually gotten a few fish on it first. Do the GYCB's come off when T-rigged??

With wacky, the hook is in a much better position to tear a bait.

jomatty reply :

some plastic o rings will help that problem immensly and will help you get more fish off of one worm.

matt

roadwarrior reply :

Fresh Senkos rarely fly off a T-rig, especially if you fish spinning tackle. When the top tears, I bite it off and fish a 5 3/4" bait. Although you sometimes lose the Senko after just one fish, I think the average is something closer to three. On rare occasion, I can fish the same bait for most of an outing, 8- 10 bass is possible. Also, if the bait is not torn up in the middle, I'll bite off the narrow end and continue fishing. They work just fine this way, too.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Now THAT can't taste good! lol

Not a big fan of the "o" ring. It's a great idea for those extra salty, soft baits buty really not needed the way I fish. Plus, it turns the hook sideways on the bait. I like the "exposed tip" of the hook sticking out. (personal opinion)

roadwarrior reply :

Actually, they are tasty!

Here is a revelation which I suspect will surprise any Senko aficionado: I never fish the bait "wacky".

Nope, never.

senile1 reply :

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Now THAT can't taste good! lol
Not a big fan of the "o" ring. It's a great idea for those extra salty, soft baits buty really not needed the way I fish. Plus, it turns the hook sideways on the bait. I like the "exposed tip" of the hook sticking out. (personal opinion)

I agree. The o-ring does turn the hook sideways. A couple of years ago I started taking the tiny plastic sleeves that I use with trailer hooks and punching the hook through them, sliding them down against my wacky rigged senko type worms. This keeps the worm from flying off the hook when I cast and the tip of my hook is sticking out.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

That's the only way I fish them but I hadn't realized till I fished with Redtail in Mass that many lakes just wion't let you fish it wacky because of the vegetation type and amount.

My lake is very condusive to the wacky rigged senko. That double ended wiggle and the straight down fall, as opposed to the slider fall of a T-rig have just been plain deadly for me.

Plus....if the name fits.....

(rw-sry about that post mess up. All fixed)

galv reply :

i've been using the yum dingers and tiki sticks recently just to cut down on expense. i haven't noticed a huge difference. the two biggest fish i've caught this year were on the same green pumpkin black flake senko half an hour apart. didn't have the scale, i'd estimate 6.5lbs and 6lbs. caught a 5lb13oz on a bumblebee yum dinger and a 5lb5oz from shore on a watermelon/chartreuse tiki stick. fished a pack of mann's hardnose worms and caught some nice fish with those too.

if i was fishing with money on the line, i'd use a senko, but i can't justify the price difference for just casual fishing at this point. when i stock up i'll usually buy a pack of senkos and a couple packs of something else.

Keithscatch reply :

Wish I had been in on this thread sooner. Some of the points I would have made are already made.

BTW, I am not a one trick pony. It always amazes me how people can say that the Senko catches more fish then other baits that are the same thing. I think that insults my intelligence. It is all called marketing folks. But good for Gary he seems to have people in a spell of sorts thinking his expensive baits are the only ones capable of catching quality fish. NOT!!!! BTW, I am an equal expensive bait basher. I feel this way about all overpriced lures. Don't get me started on the Lucky Craft baits...

Isn't it funny that the folks who defend Senkos are the ones who always bash the other knockoffs. The guys who defend the knockoffs never say anything negative about the Senko except the price. We would all use the GYCB if they were cheaper. They are fine baits and no one says they are not. We just know that bass will hit other lesser expensive baits just as well. So why not use a bait that costs half the price? Seems like a Homer Simpson cartoon here makes sense. Doh!!

And yes sir RW Senko's do fly off the hook that are brand new never have caught a fish new. I have done it numerous times. But then I am a big boy and make long casts. I don't use whimpy spinning gear either ;D

How I see it when I hear folks defending Senko's only is that if in say the BPS tank with all of those huge bass in it. You drop 5 senko type baits into the water 4 knockoffs and 1 Senko all hanging off of the same stick and all at the same depth and all right next to each other. I think some people would actually believe that the Bass would swim right to the senko and eat that bait while ignoring all the others that look just like it.

Do people really believe that? You know Bass are not as smart as some people make them out to be. They don't sit there and rationalize baits saying you know that bait only wiggled 30 times on the fall so I am not going to bite it. Or hey that bait wiggled 35 times on the way down so I will bite that one...C'mon folks.

But that is ok if someone prefers to buy a bait that is twice as expensive. I am not going to get worked up anymore if someone wants to spend more money then they should. That is fine by me. Just don't insult me for saving money and still catching more fish then you on my cheaper baits

roadwarrior reply :

We'll see.

I fish some ponds that are very productive and this is the very best time of year to fish soft plastics. One fisherman's experiment doesn't qualify as being very scientific, but it should be interesting none the less. I admit to being a die hard GYCB fan, but I will not be throwing one at all for the next ten weks or so.

Keithscatch reply :

Hey RW, I respect your willingness to think outside of GYCB's box . Not all will do that. Regardless of your outcome I am glad to see that you are willing to give them a fair shake.

Valascus reply :

This oughta be interesting. I don't really have an opinion on which stickbait is better. I have Senkos, Tiki Stiks, YUM Dingers, and plan on buying some *** in the near future. I am with LBH in this friendly debate though. If I can get a bait that similar to a more expensive bait and get the same or better results with it, then I am obviously going to go after the cheaper baits. Gives me more money to put towards bolstering lacking areas of my tackle bag. I cannot wait to see the results of this experiment. Kudos to you RW for being big enough to take on the challenge with an open mind . This should be both educational and entertaining which is what this site is all about.

On a side note, I think the results of this experiment should be posted on a new thread and that thread should be made a sticky so anyone who has questions regarding which stick bait is "better" or "more effective" can just see the results for themselves.

jomatty reply :

i surprised you guys dont like the o rings. i think i prefer the way the hook runs when using o rings, but have not really been able to tell the difference as far catching fish goes. i guess its just a matter of personal opinion (and i admit i may not bother with it if i was paying ten cents a bait).

matt

Bud reply :

I was not going to post on this subject for RW and others are having fun with a challenge. I use GY baits for the simple fact is they work. I feel this way if you thing they are to expensive don't buy them that simple. GY has put a lot of time and money in his product and he can sell sell then for whatevery he wants.

I am sure if some of the one that are hollowing about the price had the chance to come up with something like the Senkos they would charge what every the market place would stand.

The majority of the people on this form thinks nothing of spending a couple of hundred for a new rod and a couple for a new reel so why skinp on the bait?????

roadwarrior reply :

Bud,

You know I feel the same way, but I don't mind backing off a little and spending some time on this experiment. Something I can tell you for sure is that I'm going to fish these other baits HARD. My mindset is to demonstrate that LBH is correct and Brent's baits are just as good as the GYCB Senko. The test period is what I consider to be the very best time of year to fish soft plastics.

I can assure you and everyone else on the forum, I'll make a good faith effort and report the results however the cards fall.

senile1 reply :

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I was not going to post on this subject for RW and others are having fun with a challenge. I use GY baits for the simple fact is they work. I feel this way if you thing they are to expensive don't buy them that simple. GY has put a lot of time and money in his product and he can sell sell then for whatevery he wants.
I am sure if some of the one that are hollowing about the price had the chance to come up with something like the Senkos they would charge what every the market place would stand.

The majority of the people on this form thinks nothing of spending a couple of hundred for a new rod and a couple for a new reel so why skinp on the bait?????

If other people are catching just as large, and as many fish, on less expensive Yum Dingers, Tiki sticks, etc. as they would catch on Senkos I wouldn't call that skimping. I would call that an intelligent decision. I've had luck with Senkos, Yum Dingers, and the Strike King Zeroes (which seem to be despised by some on this forum). I can't say that one has out-performed the others overall. We all have our favorites due to the minute differences in the way we each fish a lure. For RW, Senkos may be the best for him and the way he fishes. For someone else, that may not be the case.

Bankbeater reply :

This forum is getting to hip for me. We got people sniffing bags of plastic baits and RW biting senkos.

Zel... reply :

Senko Re-Treads

1. Get a 5 1/4" 4 cavity Stik mold from Del-Mart http://www.del-mart.com/shop/product.php?productid=16143&cat=306&page=1

2. Save all your torn/worn out Senkos

3. Melt old Senkos and pour plastic into molds

4. Save $$$ (if you can stand the mess)

PW reply :

Jighead FishStix!

Poured by hand by a guy in CT. Much more durable than senkos. A great bait at about 2/3 the price. He has them in 4, 5 and 10" sizes.

Walt

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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The majority of the people on this form thinks nothing of spending a couple of hundred for a new rod and a couple for a new reel so why skinp on the bait?????

Skimp? That's the point. When you're catch ratio either stays the same or increases but it costs less, I see it as a value,not a skimp.

And yes, I like nice reels and rods too and since switching, I can afford more set-ups.

Time will tell

PW reply :

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The majority of the people on this form thinks nothing of spending a couple of hundred for a new rod and a couple for a new reel so why skinp on the bait?????

How do you think we can afford those hundreds of dollars on reels and rods?

Jighead FishStix are more durable and catch just as many fish. That makes them a better value and I can put the pennies saved towards other baits, rods, reels, tackle, etc.

Bud reply :

LBH

GY Senkos work better than any thing I have used so that is the reason iI use them. I doubt the penney you save by using a knock off will every buy a cheap rod much less a good one. If it does you will be old and gray.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Last week I used 11 bags of 10. At a savings of roughly $.50/worm, that's over $50. With $200, I can get a decent set up. Hopefully I won't be old and grey by the middle of August.

You are entitled to your opinion but the term "best" is relevant.

I am catching the largest size class fish in the lake and as many as I did back when GYCB's was the only game in town.

The savings last month gave me the combined pleasure of breaking my PB for the year twice in 2 weeks and a new 55lb Minn Kota.

That's not an opinion. That's a fact.

Bud- GYCB's work great, no doubt. My point is so do many others. Not all but many.

Hamlet reply :

Even if the knock off lures work just as good as Yamamoto's, there's still all the reason in the world to stay with the Yamamoto lures. The main thing is that it's a great company with great customer service, everything is top of the line, the magazine is great, the man himself is as nice a human can be, they offer so much knowledge not just lures, and they have make you feel like its all one big family. I have been infinitely impressed with this company and I reward them with my purchases.

I ordered some lures online and I didn't get a confirmation email and so I emailed them, well before I could even get a chance to check my email they called me and told me about a small problem that they were having and then sent a thank you note with my lures in the mail. good stuff. I have like 4 or 5 more stories just like this about GYCB and thats why I continue to fish with them even though I do use the knock off lures as well. In fact it has been a while since I made a GYCB purchase (I only buy them over the internet), I have been buying the tiki sticks lately.

I had to edit this post to say that if I fished ALL THE TIME and I was using bags and bags of soft plastics, I would switch to cheaper versions in a heartbeat. But thats not what i do, so i fish yamamoto style biatch.

roadwarrior reply :

LBH,

Man, what are you doing that I'm not? I fish soft plastics a lot, I mean most of the time if I'm fishing artificial lures. My "bags" are just five 6" baits and I haven't gone through five bags this year! If I include ALL soft plastics, I'm sure I haven't used fifty baits in 2006.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Sorry Brent,...too selfish to worry about the folks that want junebug/chart.....

[move] B L A C K [/move]

But that's what you would want too,.....................If you were me

RW- Maybe you're throwing the wrong ones?? J/K

I've ben fortunate (if you consider migraines fortunate) to have the time this year to quadruple my time on water. I've been fishing a consistent 5 days/ week for 4-8 hrs/day.

Funny thing is that I have been throwing a variety of baits this year, trying to break from my Jigging ways. I have also been giving samples away tosome folks I fish with who want to try them. Brent gave me a few extra to pass out as samples. Many people I invite on the water are at beginner/intermediate levels and I like to tell them to leave everything of theirs at home and come learn my way for the day. More baits used again. Money well spent in my book.

Still,...not uncommon to blow through 3-5 bags of 10 in one outting when the bite is on and there are two of you. Now if that 2nd person also knows what they are doing..............

I have pillaged Dirks tackle box for years. I told him this year, I'll cover your plastics in a good faith effort to restore his stocks. He never complains. Well, he just ordered his first batch last week and has been using mostly mine this year, I would say maybe 1/2 the time, he has used mine so there is reason why that number is so high but regardless of why, If I had to buy all that bait at $7 for 10,...I would'nt have the money for gas to get to the lake!

Keithscatch reply :

Actually Brent I woulkd order Junebug w/blue tail now that is a color that tears them up here in Florida. I could throw some business your way with those. But Black would be cool too. Could use those at night ;D

Zel... reply :

Brent,

Good business question. Since I don't have industry information regarding percentage of color sales in soft plastics, I personally would have to make a business decision based on my limited experience and observations. I throw black Senko's over 50% of the time. When on a lake I observe other anglers who utilize Senkos, and by far I see black as the primary color utilized, followed by watermelon and pumpkinseed. In addition, when I go to local tackle shops that cater to bass anglers and go to the Senko area, I look at the color selections. Most seem to allocate the greatest amount of available space to black, watermelon and pumpkinseed. And by far the color that they seem to always be lacking in availability, or picked out is in fact black.

So if I were a soft plastic businessman and wanted to add a new color to my offerings, I would pick BLACK, as it represents the lowest risk component, due to its proven historical success factor.

I believe the draw to your company is primarily PRICE, not cool offerings. And "cool" doesn't always cover the bills, but would BLACK with BLACK FLAKE qualify?.

nboucher reply :

You could call them Zorro sticks, Brent.

Zel... reply :

Brent,

Interesting info. I guess I stand corrected.

But I still think that not offering a proven staple color makes no sence.

Personally, when I ordered from you, I would have ordered 4 bags of worms instead of 3. Also, of that order I would have gotten 2 bags of 50 in Black instead of 1 bag of 25 Black Blue Laminate. But as you pointed out, that is just me and my personal preference, which might not represent the masses.

Guess which color I picked on the poll you created?

Siebert Outdoors reply :

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LBH loves watermelon purple (sorry LBH if i'm giving away your secrets)

Well I guess that is 2 people in this world that love that color. Since we are announcing great colors how about Green pumpkin purple, smoke purple, and white with silver/gold/blk flk. There my secret is out.

Good thing no one reads my posts.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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The other problem is, that for every color I get, I sell less of all of the other ones. And, the number of colors you can think of is unlimited. When do you stop and say, "Enough Colors."???
Brent

As soon as BLACK is on the list!! lol

Seriously though, Black has always been considered a staple color by most anglers. It's Pumpkin and watermelons partner. The green, the black and the brown. Naturals.

When you did that questionaire about colors, was it multiple choice? I ask because if you asked me that question, I would not answer black because I would assume the "staples" are already covered.

roadwarrior reply :

"The Experiment" was suppose to run through September, but I think today will be the end. I will have a detailed report this weekend.

Siebert Outdoors reply :

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"The Experiment" was suppose to run through September, but I think today will be the end. I will have a detailed report this weekend.

I am interested to see your detailed report. I will be keeping an eye out

KYbass1276 reply :

I use Gycb as well and like them very much hard to beat. But with that I have other brands that I use too so really I don't have a stance on this topic for each brand I have used has been a good producer. For me and this sounds stupid I like trying different baits all the time it's a hobby I guess I always look for something I haven't ever tried weather it be a different technique or bait or a bait that works good for me but just trying different companys version of the same bait.

Rattlinrogue reply :

I'd have to say the Kinami Flash since it's the same thing.I've used tiki stiks with some success,but I'm now using the Strike King 3X Zero.

broncoboxer reply :

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"The Experiment" was suppose to run through September, but I think today will be the end. I will have a detailed report this weekend.

So let's hear the report.

Pond-Pro reply :

So, It is 2007 now, what happened to your expierement RW? Maybe you posted it somewhere else and I missed it. (quite posssible)

As far as good replacements for the senko, I like the YUM Dinger. I am currently trying the BPS sticko worm because I like their 4 1/4 inch size.

cajun1977. reply :

d**n dude are you bored ;Dthis thread was a year old

Triton21 reply :

My PB came on a 5 3/8 watermelon Sticko wacky rig.

Pond-Pro reply :

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d**n dude are you bored Grinthis thread was a year old

Yeah, I was just reading up on senkos and came acrossed it....

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

And 57 the day before that, 35 the day before that, 31 the day before that, 40 the day before that...etc etc etc

Thanks Brent

guest reply :

Has anyone else noticed that this thread is a year old?

It started in July of '06 and died in September, then got resurrected in May of '07.

Isn't this why we have sticky's?

armesjr reply :

A guy i was fishing with the other day was crushing fish on the a green with black speckled yum dinger, and they werent touching my senko

Rattlinrogue reply :

A Kinami Flash would be the best because it's basically the same bait.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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Has anyone else noticed that this thread is a year old?
It started in July of '06 and died in September, then got resurrected in May of '07.

Isn't this why we have sticky's?

It has been added to the "got a question about senkos" thread which is "stickied"

Simp reply :

Ok I just read 11pages of a two year old thread to see the results. What did RW have to say??????????

roadwarrior reply :

I say, try some other brands (*) and see how they work for you. We have had way too many heated discussions to go through this again. Somewhere in this thread I posted the results of my experiment, but your results may be different. The concensus of the members of this Forum overwhelming support Brent and the soft plastics available through his company, http://*.com/

I suggest you give them a shot.

8-)

Redsyn reply :

Hey RW can you post a link to your report. I dont see it in this thread. Thanks

BirdNestBen reply :

Strike King Zeros $2.99 in Watermelon.... they work just as good and very durable........

Raul reply :

Could any of the moderators please give this thread the last rites ?

roadwarrior reply :

** MODERATOR NOTE **

Old and still kickin'...Let's move on.

Goodnight Irene.

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