UPDATE* E7 let down 2024

lightsout reply :

After being given my choice for a reel for christmas by my fiance, I decided to chose the curado based on internet chatter, reviews, and how it felt in my hand.

After using it 3 or 4 times now I have to say I'm very disapointed. The reel is lacking in casting distance (only one brake on and cast control fairly loose), and it feels like it's "laboring" on the retreive. I don't think its a major mechanical issue, but if I were to reel up a 1/2oz bait from the ground to the tip it just isnt the least bit smooth and almost feels strained. In fact If I closed my eyes while reeling I would think it's a very cheap reel.

I have bookmarked burley's post about cleaning the spool bearings, and will do that soon. I suspect that will help in the casting dept., but what can be done to smooth out the retrieve? I suppose take it apart and clean the main gear, handle bearings, etc.

Obviously it was a gift, and I will keep it. I'm curious if anyone else has dealt with this? If so did the cleaning make THAT much of a diffrence? Sorry for getting off on a rant but with all the hype I expected it to perform better.

Respectfully

Josh

jc450r reply :

Two words my friend "Abu Garcia"

Hope you get the problem worked out.....maybe just a bad reel? Most people on here swear by their E7's

bilgerat reply :

May be over lubed from the factory. All reel makers guilty of it. Have a thorough cleaning/lube done and see how it goes from there.

SWMIBASSER reply :

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Two words my friend "Abu Garcia"
Hope you get the problem worked out.....maybe just a bad reel? Most people on here swear by their E7's

I had the same impressions from a quick in store inspection.

lightsout reply :

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Two words my friend "Abu Garcia"
Hope you get the problem worked out.....maybe just a bad reel? Most people on here swear by their E7's

4 words buddy, "you got that right".

Lol I love my ambassaduers, revos, and cardinals!

Anyone know any specifics on what exactly should be cleaned?

Pantera61 reply :

You may want to consider setting another brake. A single brake can cause the spool to become a little bit unbalanced.

Dan: reply :

return it and get a new one to try. Curados are great casters.

Dan: reply :

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You may want to consider setting another brake. A single brake can cause the spool to become a little bit unbalanced.

that too. If one is on, set the opposite brake on as well.

roadwarrior reply :

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return it and get a new one to try. Curados are great casters.

Something is defective on that particular reel.

The Curado 200E7 is comparable in every way

to the highest priced Shimanos. At the pricing

point, I thnk it is the best reel on the market.

Unfortunately, you have a dud.

Ern reply :

The brakes need to be balanced. Make sure you have the correct brakes in to. I got a set of Pinks in. I also did the clean on the Shimano maint. video. for the spool and spool bearings.

What line do you have on the reel and what distance are you casting?

I'd imagine you should get some distance with the 1/2oz lure. I get a cast better with the Curado with the same 10lb mono vs. a 2000 or 4000 spinning set up. All casting a weightless fluke.

koulaid reply :

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return it and get a new one to try. Curados are great casters.

Something is defective on that particular reel.

The Curado 200E7 is comparable in every way

to the highest priced Shimanos. At the pricing

point, I thnk it is the best reel on the market.

Unfortunately, you have a dud.

It is comparable to my core100mg. almost the same casting distance and smoothness.You there must have a dud.

rubba bubba reply :

Something is seriously wrong; there's no way a Curado is *that* bad. Clean/relube and see, but if you can exchange it, I would go that route. I'm not sure if it's possible to buy a crappy baitcaster in that price range these days.

J Francho reply :

I've recently done yearly cleanings on about a dozen E7 and five E5 reels, and I can tell you without a doubt your impression of these reels leads me to think something's not right, even with just one brake on. Exchange it for a new one, or call Shimano 1-877-577-0600.

lightsout reply :

I started with two brakes on and just tried one to see if that helped with distance.

As far as actual feet I don't know, but in my pond there is an island in the middle that I use as a benchmark for casting distance, I have to step into it to get close to it, where as virtually every other reel I own can accurately cast to it.

The line is my old stanby #12 Yo-hybrid.

I suppose I'll try to return it, do any of you know if bps will do a return if a receipt cant be found?

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

Any reel can benefit form a thorough cleaning and proper lubrication. Many are over lubed from the factory. If evening out the brakes and cleaning don't do it, definitely get a replacement. A Curado that's working up to potential is a quality reel.

fathom reply :

return it.

the e's i have owned cast 1/2 oz. almost as well as the calais 100a.

jb7725 reply :

get it professionally cleaned and lubed i have an E7 and it casts very well

barroncooper reply :

mine got smoother and smoother especially after a clean and re lube. as far as i'm concerned there is no better reel and I have some revos and I like them. as far as the casting, I'd work with the weights. do you have the green or pink ones installed. I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine. one drop of hotsauce is all the bearings need. like someone said earlier, you might be over lubed

bcody reply :

That sounds crazy.. I own 2 and love the smoothness of the retrieve and the casting ability.

I would bring it to BPS and tell them to exchange it, They should be able to do that.

The Rooster reply :

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mine got smoother and smoother especially after a clean and re lube. as far as i'm concerned there is no better reel and I have some revos and I like them. as far as the casting, I'd work with the weights. do you have the green or pink ones installed. I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine. one drop of hotsauce is all the bearings need. like someone said earlier, you might be over lubed

Hot Sauce in a Shimano?? :-? That's a Quantum thing and might void the warranty. I'd definitely check first before I did this.

I'd return that reel for an exchange first thing, before you try to do anything else to it at all. Then when you get the next one, send it to Reel Mechanic right off the bat and have him strip it down, clean and relube it to remove the factory packed grease. I have no personal experience with this since I have BPS reels which he doesn't work on and I don't own Shimanos (except rods) but I hear he's a master at doing this and they come back feeling better than new when finished. He might could fix the one you have too but it's not worth tampering with since it's so new. Return for exchange on that before it's too late. Even if BPS won't exchange it, you always have Shimano's warranty....but not if you put Hot Sauce in it.

JacobK reply :

take a picture of how your brakes are set up and post it.down is off and up is on fyi.

also theres a "break in" period for these reels it usually takes a solid day of fishing to break it in.

midnighthrasher reply :

Trade it. i have a e7 and a e5. My brothers got 2 e7's and these are very good reeels. I think you got a lemon. That why you buy shimano for its warranty and peace of mind. Send it back or bring it to bps and get a new one.

lightsout reply :

UPDATE*

Last night I took the reel apart and have to say, you were right about the over lubing of these reels. The spool bearing by the cast control knob was absolutely covered in grease (yes grease not oil). I was shocked at how much came out of the bearings in the acetone baths, especially that paticular one. I dont know if it's even possible for grease to find it's way into the race of a bearing, but none the less this one was FULL of something.

With the exception of the (for lack of the proper term) horizontal track under the line guide, nothing else looked overlubed to my untrained eye. I was kind of getting into it so I kept going using ardent's reel cleaning kit along with some canned air to clean the rest of the reel.

Long story short, I think I'm in good shape now. I havent got to cast the reel yet, but pitching in the living room seems to take less effort. I dont know exactly what smoothed out the retrieve, but it's better. I highly reccomend the ardent kit to anyone interested.

I must point out that I am frustrated that a nearly $200 reel has to be dissasembled and "fixed" when it's brand new. But at least I now am comfortable taking a reel apart and getting it back together and the lesson will save me money in the future.

Pantera61 reply :

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UPDATE*
Last night I took the reel apart and have to say, you were right about the over lubing of these reels. The spool bearing by the cast control knob was absolutely covered in grease (yes grease not oil). I was shocked at how much came out of the bearings in the acetone baths, especially that paticular one. I dont know if it's even possible for grease to find it's way into the race of a bearing, but none the less this one was FULL of something.

With the exception of the (for lack of the proper term) horizontal track under the line guide, nothing else looked overlubed to my untrained eye. I was kind of getting into it so I kept going using ardent's reel cleaning kit along with some canned air to clean the rest of the reel.

Long story short, I think I'm in good shape now. I havent got to cast the reel yet, but pitching in the living room seems to take less effort. I dont know exactly what smoothed out the retrieve, but it's better. I highly reccomend the ardent kit to anyone interested.

I must point out that I am frustrated that a nearly $200 reel has to be dissasembled and "fixed" when it's brand new. But at least I now am comfortable taking a reel apart and getting it back together and the lesson will save me money in the future.

Some Japanese manufacturers over grease their reels because American anglers don't maintain their reels well.

VAfishin4me reply :

I had the same problem and went to Daiwa

Dan: reply :

You should have just sent it back. If you used any of Ardent's grease/oil you may have just voided the warranty.

fishfordollars reply :

Well if you just can't live with it and BPS will not exchange it shoot me a pm with a price and I'll try to take it off your hands.

Jack

ArcticCat500 reply :

I will say this, Daiwa's are incredible reels, I went from Curado's, to Revo STX's and to Daiwa, Zillions and Fuegos, and in the market for an Sol.

My NIB Zillion had a whirling sound to it, instead of sending it back I went one step further and sent it to JFrancho owner of Reel Smooth Reels, he tore into her, cleaned her up and polished the gears. This thing SCREEEMS performance. If you have any questions, look him up, you'll be satisfied

I really did like my Curados over the Revos but the Daiwa for me is a different breed.

jb7725 reply :

glad to hear you got it fixed

roadwarrior reply :

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I must point out that I am frustrated that a nearly $200 reel has to be dissasembled and "fixed" when it's brand new.

Several of us told you to have the reel replaced.

"Frustrated" or just stubborn?

J Francho reply :

Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

lightsout reply :

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I must point out that I am frustrated that a nearly $200 reel has to be dissasembled and "fixed" when it's brand new.

Several of us told you to have the reel replaced.

"Frustrated" or just stubborn?

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After searching the web, I see people are repeatedly doing this time after time to the curado E. While I understand any reel will benifit from having a qualified person service it, apparently these have a reputation for needing it in many cases out of the box. (I'm aware many don't).

I was told by Bass Pro a return would be tough without the receipt and the 60 mile drive hopeing "to speak to a manager" is not a sure thing.

At any rate I think I'm okay and look forward to putting her to use this year

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I must point out that I am frustrated that a nearly $200 reel has to be dissasembled and "fixed" when it's brand new.

Several of us told you to have the reel replaced.

"Frustrated" or just stubborn?

:

After searching the web, I see people are repeatedly doing this time after time to the curado E. While I understand any reel will benifit from having a qualified person service it, apparently these have a reputation for needing it in many cases out of the box. (I'm aware many don't).

I was told by Bass Pro a return would be tough without the receipt and the 60 mile drive hopeing "to speak to a manager" is not a sure thing.

At any rate I think I'm okay and look forward to putting her to use this year

People do it to get better performance, not to get the reel to perform at all.

I get not wanting to go the whole way to BPS to take a chance but by doing it with Ardent's stuff by yourself you may have voided your warranty with Shimano. With a reel that new, the best bet is always to either exchange it at the store or send it to the manufacturer.

roadwarrior reply :

Back to stubborn...

Curados DO NOT have a reputation for any

adjustment out of the box. I have never heard

this before. More importantly, Shimano will repair

or replace the reel at no charge. They are as far

away as your post office.

dodgeguy reply :

kent,do you like pulling teeth?ROFLMAO!!! ;D

roadwarrior reply :

Hey Buddy!

My New Year's resolution is to stay out of these

"best" threads and let everyone else play as long

as they like.

I'm still "trying"...

:-[

lightsout reply :

Look around, the info's out there. I've tried to move on, but you just won't let this go? If anyone has anything remotely negative to say about shimano it's a lock you will post within minutes arguing with them.

And I think you'd give anyone a run in the stubborn dept. Your reputation is well deserved...My part in this discussion is over.

0119 reply :

Geez man just put some rubbing alcohol on a swab and wipe the excess oil you put on the spools shaft and the race the brakes touch as the spool rotates. Get the oil off the brakes too while your at it, it'll cast fine. If you hate it so much just go buy a Revo/BPS/Phoolger real from the mongo conglomerate.

Tin reply :

I'm now Shimano casting fan (I'm an Abu guy) and I never agree with RW but seriously this is the first I have heard of an issue with an E7's casting ability.

Not trying to be an arse or infer anything but how much experience do you have with casting reels? It seems like 98% of issues with casting reels are the operator and not the reel. Tuning brakes and spool tentions take some time to learn. What is the drag set at? (I know this will effect how an Abu will cast, maybe a Shimano as well?)

.ghoti. reply :

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Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

Not to get too far off topic, but....

John, I've been using Reel Butter oil and grease for a couple of years with no problems. Certainly nothing like what you've experienced.

What you've described has to be a contamination issue. Please do not take offence. I am not questioning your competence. If I didn't service my own reels , I'd trust you to do "em for me. But, if your lube turned into black goo, it got contaminated.

Back on topic: It's been my policy to take a new reel out for a spin. Do a couple of days on the water to make sure everything is OK. If not take it back for a swap or refund. If it checks out OK, I'll tear it down completely, clean, re-lube and pronounce it good to go.

I used to tear a new reel down before ever using it. After a refused warranty claim, I was forced to alter my process.

A lot of reels come with way too much grease. I've heard it said that many of the parts are coated with grease to hold them in place during the assembly process. Makes some sense to me.

I bought a new E7 last spring, and it was excellent right out of the box. Even better after a complete clean and lube. I would not hesitate to buy another, and probably will when I next decide that I need another reel.

barroncooper reply :

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Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

I don't understand what you're saying. do they not work well together?

barroncooper reply :

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mine got smoother and smoother especially after a clean and re lube. as far as i'm concerned there is no better reel and I have some revos and I like them. as far as the casting, I'd work with the weights. do you have the green or pink ones installed. I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine. one drop of hotsauce is all the bearings need. like someone said earlier, you might be over lubed

Hot Sauce in a Shimano?? :-? That's a Quantum thing and might void the warranty. I'd definitely check first before I did this.

I'd return that reel for an exchange first thing, before you try to do anything else to it at all. Then when you get the next one, send it to Reel Mechanic right off the bat and have him strip it down, clean and relube it to remove the factory packed grease. I have no personal experience with this since I have BPS reels which he doesn't work on and I don't own Shimanos (except rods) but I hear he's a master at doing this and they come back feeling better than new when finished. He might could fix the one you have too but it's not worth tampering with since it's so new. Return for exchange on that before it's too late. Even if BPS won't exchange it, you always have Shimano's warranty....but not if you put Hot Sauce in it.

yes hot sauce in a shimano... I said it. works well for me. kind of like at the drag track just about every pro-mod mustang has a chevy small block in it. it's just a low viscosity oil that's it. if it voids the warranty.. oh well. it shouldn't by any means

bilgerat reply :

Lots of people use hot sauce in their Shimano's, Daiwa's, Abu's, etc. without problem. I use Reel Mechanic's house brand lubes, it comes down to personal preference.

The key to lubing a reel is that all traces of the original oil and grease MUST be gone before proceeding with new lubes. Not a quick wipedown "close enough" deal, it's got to be surgical.

Regarding warranty - As much as automakers want you to buy their lube fluids and filters, they CANNOT deny you warranty coverage as long as what you used was equal to or exceeding their specifications and was done at the proper intervals. In the auto world, for example, oil is classified within a uniform conformity code, which means as long as the brand of oil you choose meets the manufacturer's minimum requirements, you are covered.

That being said, reel lubes are NOT classified the same way, so basically anyone can package what they want and make any number of claims about it. The point is Shimano, Abu, whoever should have the right to determine which lubes go into their reels during the warranty period, because there is no uniformity in the reel lube universe.

J Francho reply :

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Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

I don't understand what you're saying. do they not work well together?

Meaning you'd be better off putting either on a hot dog than in your reel.

And its true, it is preference. I've used Hot Sauce and Reel Butter, and I prefer NOT to use an oil or grease that turns to black skudge in a week.

J Francho reply :

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Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

Not to get too far off topic, but....

John, I've been using Reel Butter oil and grease for a couple of years with no problems. Certainly nothing like what you've experienced.

What you've described has to be a contamination issue. Please do not take offence. I am not questioning your competence. If I didn't service my own reels , I'd trust you to do "em for me. But, if your lube turned into black goo, it got contaminated.

Back on topic: It's been my policy to take a new reel out for a spin. Do a couple of days on the water to make sure everything is OK. If not take it back for a swap or refund. If it checks out OK, I'll tear it down completely, clean, re-lube and pronounce it good to go.

I used to tear a new reel down before ever using it. After a refused warranty claim, I was forced to alter my process.

A lot of reels come with way too much grease. I've heard it said that many of the parts are coated with grease to hold them in place during the assembly process. Makes some sense to me.

I bought a new E7 last spring, and it was excellent right out of the box. Even better after a complete clean and lube. I would not hesitate to buy another, and probably will when I next decide that I need another reel.

Sorry, man I totally disagree, and will add Abu Garcia Silicote to the Wall of Shame.

Its not a contamination issue, its a heat issue. The grease doesn't stand up to heavy use. It breaks down after a week or so. This is what the parts look BEFORE they go into the US cleaner:

Ineedanewscreenname20170204 reply :

I love my curados and would buy a couple more if I had the money...

Micro reply :

If Curados perform just as well as Shimano's highest end reels, why does Shimano charge hundreds more for their highest end reels? Is that the price of "fancy?"

roadwarrior reply :

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If Curados perform just as well as Shimano's highest end reels, why does Shimano charge hundreds more for their highest end reels? Is that the price of "fancy?"

Yep..

It's the price of "cool". The Law of Diminishing Returns

applies to reels, too!

More technically, as you know, the "features"

and components are more than we mere

mortals can appreciate. This is another reason

why people should fish brand names with a

reputation for quality. Personally, I depend

on expertise to guide me towards the better

equipment. I really don't know why one worm

gear is better than another. I rely on Shimano

professionals to know the difference.

8-)

J Francho reply :

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If Curados perform just as well as Shimano's highest end reels, why does Shimano charge hundreds more for their highest end reels? Is that the price of "fancy?"

Lighter, smaller, nicer components. Look at this way, the difference between a Citica and a Curado is in the spool, some gearing options, and two knob bearings. Its always been that way. I love it when guys say the Curado is "smoother" because it has more bearings. Toss in an aluminum main gear, magnesium body, and cost of materials starts to creep up. Add in margins at each step to the retail shelf, and you start to see the where the disparity in MSRP comes from, with seemingly little gains ion performance.

My question is, why ISN'T a lower end reel from some other makers close to their higher end models? Ahem.......Zeb-COUGH-Co!

Micro reply :

The Curado may not be all there is, but it's all you need.

J Francho reply :

Maybe, Micro. Its a little "big feeling" in my hands. Though, I've really become accustom to smaller reels. Even a Fuego or Revo feels somewhat big in my hands...too many Sols and Aphas.

Some reels just work for some, and others just don't. As to the original post, its ridiculous what this guy had to do to get a useful tool to work.

My advice, fish a brand new reel like you stole it. Any issues, take them up with the maker. After the warranty is expired, have it cleaned by a pro. You'll get a reel back that is better than when it was new.

K_Mac reply :

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If you hate it so much just go buy a Revo/BPS/Phoolger real from the mongo conglomerate.

That's funny ;D ;D I am fairly sure that the Shimano world wide machine would qualify as a "mongo conglomerate." Not that there's anything wrong with that...

jl18630 reply :

The e7 is pretty smooth for me. With 2 brakes on opposite side, it takes about 50 some turns to reel back a 1/4oz small crankbait using 20lb Sufix braided line and 6'6 M Shimano Crucial crankbait rod.

Taylor Fishin 4 life reply :

lol i still have the older green curado still works likes a champ

barroncooper reply :

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Ardent Reel Butter is the mustard for Quantum's Hot Sauce. Turns to black goo in a week.

Not to get too far off topic, but....

John, I've been using Reel Butter oil and grease for a couple of years with no problems. Certainly nothing like what you've experienced.

What you've described has to be a contamination issue. Please do not take offence. I am not questioning your competence. If I didn't service my own reels , I'd trust you to do "em for me. But, if your lube turned into black goo, it got contaminated.

Back on topic: It's been my policy to take a new reel out for a spin. Do a couple of days on the water to make sure everything is OK. If not take it back for a swap or refund. If it checks out OK, I'll tear it down completely, clean, re-lube and pronounce it good to go.

I used to tear a new reel down before ever using it. After a refused warranty claim, I was forced to alter my process.

A lot of reels come with way too much grease. I've heard it said that many of the parts are coated with grease to hold them in place during the assembly process. Makes some sense to me.

I bought a new E7 last spring, and it was excellent right out of the box. Even better after a complete clean and lube. I would not hesitate to buy another, and probably will when I next decide that I need another reel.

Sorry, man I totally disagree, and will add Abu Garcia Silicote to the Wall of Shame.

Its not a contamination issue, its a heat issue. The grease doesn't stand up to heavy use. It breaks down after a week or so. This is what the parts look BEFORE they go into the US cleaner:

I don't use reel butter i use the shimano ace grease and its clearish white even after a month. what are some better bearing oils to use. i'm open to suggestion

J Francho reply :

Shimano Ace Grease - the bike stuff? Never tried it. Their Star Drag Grease is fine for Baitcasters, their Permalub fine for spinners. Reel Mechanic's Lithium Gold Grease is one of the best, as is his oil. Bantam Oil, TG Rocket Fuel Yellow Label, TD-Z oil, are a few of various grades that work well. Reel Mech and Bantam Oil are probably the best all purpose oils.

barroncooper reply :

yeah the ace grease is the drag star grease i think. it came in a refresh kit for my old calcutta 200a

NorCalFishinguru reply :

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mine got smoother and smoother especially after a clean and re lube. as far as i'm concerned there is no better reel and I have some revos and I like them. as far as the casting, I'd work with the weights. do you have the green or pink ones installed. I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine. one drop of hotsauce is all the bearings need. like someone said earlier, you might be over lubed

And you could flip the same distance with line wrapped around a tin can...

christopherjake reply :

Never had any problems w/ my Curados. I'd send it to Shimano to have it looked at.

barroncooper reply :

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mine got smoother and smoother especially after a clean and re lube. as far as i'm concerned there is no better reel and I have some revos and I like them. as far as the casting, I'd work with the weights. do you have the green or pink ones installed. I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine. one drop of hotsauce is all the bearings need. like someone said earlier, you might be over lubed

And you could flip the same distance with line wrapped around a tin can...

what exactly are you saying?

J Francho reply :

I don't know anyone with arms long enough to flip 35 feet. Pitch, well that's another story.

-HAWK- reply :

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return it and get a new one to try. Curados are great casters.

Something is defective on that particular reel.

The Curado 200E7 is comparable in every way

to the highest priced Shimanos. At the pricing

point, I thnk it is the best reel on the market.

Unfortunately, you have a dud.

I used to feel the same way. Until I purcahsed a Shimano Core 50mg. I own 3 Shimano Curado E7s and 1 Curado E5. While I will agree for the price point they are the best reel on the market. They are by far NOT comparable in every way to the highest priced Shimanos. ;D ;D

roadwarrior reply :

Well, I think the performance is comparable.

That doesn't make the Curado my favorite reel,

but it is "strong, smooth, silent and reliant".

8-)

Bronzefly reply :

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I don't know anyone with arms long enough to flip 35 feet. Pitch, well that's another story.

Ahhh... the old flip v pitch... don't know why it's so confusing for people ;D

uicdent11 reply :

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Hey Buddy!
My New Year's resolution is to stay out of these

"best" threads and let everyone else play as long

as they like.

I'm still "trying"...

:-[

I think they make a patch for that RW. It might help you keep to your new years resolution. ;D

ArcticCat500 reply :

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Hey Buddy!
My New Year's resolution is to stay out of these

"best" threads and let everyone else play as long

as they like.

I'm still "trying"...

:-[

I think they make a patch for that RW. It might help you keep to your new years resolution. ;D

They make a patch for alcohol? Were can I get one? ;D

rubba bubba reply :

The Reel Wars are the best threads on BR, hands down.

I was sure RW was going to go all Bruce Banner when it was suggested there are problems with the Curado. ;D

Bronzefly reply :

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I was sure RW was going to go all Bruce Banner when it was suggested there are problems with the Curado. ;D

Now that was funny...

21farms reply :

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I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine.

And you could flip the same distance with line wrapped around a tin can...

what exactly are you saying?

when you said flip, he took it to mean that you used the flippin' technique whereby the reel doesn't do much except hold the line as the lure is swung by the rod and dropped into the target, usually only 7-10 feet away.

OnthePotomac reply :

I could not agree more on the excellent quality of the Curado E7. It will sling a weightless worm a mile.

barroncooper reply :

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I can flip a 3/8 jig over 35' with mine.

And you could flip the same distance with line wrapped around a tin can...

what exactly are you saying?

when you said flip, he took it to mean that you used the flippin' technique whereby the reel doesn't do much except hold the line as the lure is swung by the rod and dropped into the target, usually only 7-10 feet away.

well pitch then

barroncooper reply :

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I don't know anyone with arms long enough to flip 35 feet. Pitch, well that's another story.

sorry to confuse i meant pitch

Choke Canyon Boy reply :

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return it and get a new one to try. Curados are great casters.

Something is defective on that particular reel.

The Curado 200E7 is comparable in every way

to the highest priced Shimanos. At the pricing

point, I thnk it is the best reel on the market.

Unfortunately, you have a dud.

Roadwarrior I have to call your bluff on this issue again. This is in no way an attack on you as a person etc. and you are surely entitled to your opionion. However, in another post you said the new C14 was comparable in every way to a stella and now a curado to a calias ,core etc. This information is very misleading and simply not true. These higher end products are made of much better material and mechanically and functionally are totally different than the reels you compare them to. The curado and C14 are tremendous reels in their price range and I would recommend them to anyone, however the reels you try to compare them to are enthuiast class reels meaning cost is not a factor to the market they are trying to attract with these higher end reels. Enthuiast reels are made of the highest quality materials available for people who simply won't compromise on refinement even if it cost 500-1000$ And they DO GET the best available product. What you are doing is trying to compare a 40,000$ Corvette to a 90,000 Lingenfelter twin turbo Corvette. Sure both cars are really fast and will both do over 150 however the lingenfelter will smoke the base Corvette in every way possible and you expect this because the owners of the Lingenfelter payed 50,000$ more for that exact reason. These reels are not comparable to the highest end Shimano reels PERIOD........

roadwarrior reply :

The higher priced Shimanos have higher quality

components, are lighter in some cases, may be

a bit smoother and in the right hands, cast further.

My point is that "fishing" both the Curado and CI4

is comparable to "fishing" the higher priced reels.

In my hands the Curado 200E7 is not noticeably

different than the Core 100. The Core 50 is probably

my favorite baitcaster, but the CH50MG feels and

works well for me, too! I probably fish a Calais 200

more than any other baitcaster, but I like the

CTE200GT just as well.

As an enthusiast, I'm very happy with a number

of Shimanio reels, including my most favorite, the

Stella 2500FD. As a fisherman, I could be completely

satisfied with the Curado as my baitcaster and the

Stradic CI4 as my spinning reel.

8-)

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