Kistler Helium 73LMH 2025
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
Saw a youtube video of trey saying this was his favorite helium model. Anyone have expereince wit it? Can it handle keitechs and smaller jigs?
Zibass reply :
It feels more like a medium power rod to me.
MBR 872.5 if it exists
kschultz76 reply :
I have the 7’0” LMH and throw 3/8oz swim jig plus trailer on it in sparse pads no problem. It’s got more power then my M power St Croix rods. I’m a fan of this stick.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Ive had the Helium3 7'3" LMH for about a week now. It has more power than other medium powered rods I have like 13 Omen Black 7'1" M/F or Quantum Smoke 7' M/F or Okuma Helios 7' M/F. Its also a tad bit tip heavy not quite as light feeling in the hand as the others
and thats with a Tatula SV on it. If had a choice would give up a bit of power for better balance. 3.8" fat paddle tails with 1/8-1/4 jig heads work just fine. Was throwing fat ikas .0834oz easily with it as well. The sensitivity is up there for sure very pleased with that.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 11:51 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Ive had the Helium3 7'3" LMH for about a week now. It has more power than other medium powered rods I have like 13 Omen Black 7'1" M/F or Quantum Smoke 7' M/F or Okuma Helios 7' M/F. Its also a tad bit tip heavy not quite as light feeling in the hand as the others
For better balance you may need to go up to the Zbone, lol.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 11:51 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Ive had the Helium3 7'3" LMH for about a week now. It has more power than other medium powered rods I have like 13 Omen Black 7'1" M/F or Quantum Smoke 7' M/F or Okuma Helios 7' M/F. Its also a tad bit tip heavy not quite as light feeling in the hand as the others
Pretty sure you can't buy a Fat Ika that light. 
Just picking on you.
Zibass reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 11:54 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:For better balance you may need to go up to the Zbone, lol.
Even the zbone is little bit tip heavy.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 7:00 PM, new2BC4bass said:Pretty sure you can't buy a Fat Ika that light.
yeah messed that up should be .3840oz. dont want a person thinking its good for BFS, TT members would be salivating.
I do have Tiny Ikas that weigh .0493oz
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 8:01 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:yeah messed that up should be .3840oz. dont want a person thinking its good for BFS, TT members would be salivating.
I do have Tiny Ikas that weigh .0493oz
Wow. That is tiny. I've only seen the big ones.
fishwizzard reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 8:25 PM, new2BC4bass said:Wow. That is tiny. I've only seen the big ones.
The tiny ones are good little panfish plastics and also work great as trailers for small spinnerbaits. They add a good bit of weight without adding a lot of bulk.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 8:46 PM, fishwizzard said:The tiny ones are good little panfish plastics and also work great as trailers for small spinnerbaits. They add a good bit of weight without adding a lot of bulk.
Thanks
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 11:51 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Ive had the Helium3 7'3" LMH for about a week now. It has more power than other medium powered rods I have like 13 Omen Black 7'1" M/F or Quantum Smoke 7' M/F or Okuma Helios 7' M/F. Its also a tad bit tip heavy not quite as light feeling in the hand as the others
I will probably pass on this model, in that case.
CrankFate reply :
I’m not sure I understand tip heaviness. It is simple to add a more robust butt section or foregrip to improve balance. Which most major manufacturers do. I get the whole lowest weight possible stat for marketing, but hardly any rods are marketed that way. A balanced rod with a full length butt Grip or longer butt section is usually worth the extra weight IMO. Especially if it’s only another half an ounce or so.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 10:41 PM, newyorktoiowa57 said:I will probably pass on this model, in that case.
On another forum there is a thread for overrated rods I posted this rod in that thread. I wouldnt recommend this rod to you based on my use out if it. While fishing today with a lull in bites I looked over the rod more carefully. I now see that the first guide is not aligned all that well. There are 2 other guides while not bad they arent perfect or what a $300 rod should come with. One other issue is the reel lockdown is flexible and feels rather cheap not sure it will last.
Ill say if I could return it get my money back I would. I looked on their site and shipping would be on me plus 10% for that $$ not worth the hassle.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/26/2019 at 8:19 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:On another forum there is a thread for overrated rods I posted this rod in that thread. I wouldnt recommend this rod to you based on my use out if it. While fishing today with a lull in bites I looked over the rod more carefully. I now see that the first guide is not aligned all that well. There are 2 other guides while not bad they arent perfect or what a $300 rod should come with. One other issue is the reel lockdown is flexible and feels rather cheap not sure it will last.
Ill say if I could return it get my money back I would. I looked on their site and shipping would be on me plus 10% for that $$ not worth the hassle.
What sticks do you find underrated?
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/26/2019 at 8:22 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:What sticks do you find underrated?
Not too many Im more apt to find faults with hyped products. Current production rod Okuma Helios has impressed me for the price they are at walmart often $120 or so and can only say this for the 7' M/F and 7' MH/F models. I also feel the basic SC Avid though long in the tooth still hold their own but have fallen out of favor for more current releases.
A rod not made any more(at least not the same build got downgraded) that impressed me the most got no love yet became my favorite rod is the original Quantum Smoke rod 7' M/F. And this is the rod I base my new purchases against. No doubt in my mind at all that I would take another gen 1 Smoke rod over the Helium 3.
Stephen B reply :
On 4/26/2019 at 8:19 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:On another forum there is a thread for overrated rods I posted this rod in that thread. I wouldnt recommend this rod to you based on my use out if it. While fishing today with a lull in bites I looked over the rod more carefully. I now see that the first guide is not aligned all that well. There are 2 other guides while not bad they arent perfect or what a $300 rod should come with. One other issue is the reel lockdown is flexible and feels rather cheap not sure it will last.
Ill say if I could return it get my money back I would. I looked on their site and shipping would be on me plus 10% for that $$ not worth the hassle.
I was never a big fan of Kistler. Sold all of them and won't look back. I wouldn't accept a subpar rod. I could understand something small but not multiple issues. I'd get that taken care of.
GReb reply :
I have a few Kistlers that I love. None have any imperfections.
basseditor reply :
I have the LMH in 7’, 7-3, and 7-6 in ZBones and 6-9 (something near it anyway) in the Helium 3.
some were ordered custom with the balance kit. Those don’t feel tip heavy; the others do a little, but I don’t mind.
I like them all. No blemishes, no problems, etc.
I use Steez on the ZBones and Tatula SV on Helium. I’m still moving reels around looking for the perfect weight combo. Just got the new Steez CT SV to try.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/26/2019 at 11:04 AM, basseditor said:I have the LMH in 7’, 7-3, and 7-6 in ZBones and 6-9 (something near it anyway) in the Helium 3.
some were ordered custom with the balance kit. Those don’t feel tip heavy; the others do a little, but I don’t mind.
I like them all. No blemishes, no problems, etc.
I use Steez on the ZBones and Tatula SV on Helium. I’m still moving reels around looking for the perfect weight combo. Just got the new Steez CT SV to try.
How do they fish in terms of power?
LonnieP reply :
My MH Helium 3 doesnt feel tip heavy to me. Balances real well with a Chronarch MGL. Guides are perfect. A lot better than some of the Loomis NRX rods I've seen pictures of.
I'd return it for another one. Every manufacturer has a defect every now and then.
dave reply :
I have a 6' 9'' and the 7' 3'', with a big smile on my face!
i have a ML caster as well that I can't wait to fish this year.
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newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/27/2019 at 12:34 AM, LonnieP said:My MH Helium 3 doesnt feel tip heavy to me. Balances real well with a Chronarch MGL. Guides are perfect. A lot better than some of the Loomis NRX rods I've seen pictures of.
I'd return it for another one. Every manufacturer has a defect every now and then.
How long?
LonnieP reply :
On 4/27/2019 at 8:32 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:How long?
7’ 1”
basseditor reply :
On 4/26/2019 at 11:57 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:How do they fish in terms of power?
Definitely not a medium heavy. I like to think in terms of the number power rating. The Kistlers 2 powers are light. The 4 power, to me, is pretty heavy for a 4.
to keep the number of rods to buy, I only have two 4 powers.
therefore I use the 3 and 5 powers the most. The new 2019 Zbone 5 power, 7-10” is a great rod for half ounce. I like the 3 power for up to quarter ounce, but preferably less than that. Even weightless the 3 power fishes great. I prefer the 5 over the 4 power.
sorry, for delayed response. I was out of cell range for a few days.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Took my rod to work put it on the scale in the lab weighed 4.02oz.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 4/28/2019 at 12:41 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Took my rod to work put it on the scale in the lab weighed 4.02oz.
Which model?
DogBone_384 reply :
I own 7' LMH/MF spinning and a 6'8" LMH/MF casting Magnesium 2's. I see them as a MH bottom end with a light tip. I use them as all purpose rods. I've thrown 3/4 oz crankbaits with them as well as Neds on a 1/10 oz jig head on both with good distance and without issue.
I hang a Pflueger Supreme XT on the spinning rod and a 6.6:1 Concept A with Concept Zero bearings in it.
I really like both rods.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/29/2019 at 12:16 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:Which model?
Helium3 7'3" LMH
Westcoast reply :
Bought a h3 71mhxf over the winter and finally fished it today. Gotta say, it’s a great little rod. Nice crisp fast action, feels light in the hand and has great sensitivity. I bought it to fish single hook reaction baits but I had no qualms doing some light pitching and casting a t-rig.
Scrapiron reply :
On 4/29/2019 at 1:40 AM, DogBone_384 said:I own 7' LMH/MF spinning and a 6'8" LMH/MF casting Magnesium 2's. I see them as a MH bottom end with a light tip. I use them as all purpose rods. I've thrown 3/4 oz crankbaits with them as well as Neds on a 1/10 oz jig head on both with good distance and without issue.
I hang a Pflueger Supreme XT on the spinning rod and a 6.6:1 Concept A with Concept Zero bearings in it.
I really like both rods.
I have both the same rods/models and would agree- great multi purpose sticks. I’ve thrown just about everything on them. They aren’t in the rotation since I got Megabass Destroyers however. I’ll need to compare them again. Current multi purpose rod is a Javelin.
smr913 reply :
I just mentioned this in a different thread, but I have the 7' LMH and it feels like a jack of all trades type rod. I wouldn't use it for jigs or t-rigs in heavy cover, but it'd do well in open water with a football jig or big shakeyhead. I'd also use it for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and squarebills. Hopefully I can put it to a better test this weekend. So far I've just had it on small water.
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
Update: got a birthday check from my parents, so I ended up ordering the 73LMH. It may be a little tip heavy but truthfully when I am dialed in on my fishing I don't really notice a little tip heaviness. I Will likely throw a chronarch MGL or JM platinum signature on it for now.
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