G.loomis Tfo Rods ($100) Vs. Similar Priced Rods (St. Croix Triumph Etc. $100) 2024
Wammiee reply :
How does the G. Loomis TFO $100.00 Stack against similar priced rods?
I see alot saying its moreso TFO and hardly GLoomis quality..Anyone have firsthand experience?
Alot of mixed reviews on the quality of this rod and if its worth the price or better off with something like a St Croix
Chris at Tech reply :
Just so you're clear, the TFO rods are NOT under the "G Loomis" brand. Yes, Gary Loomis is supposedly involved with TFO. I haven't fished them myself, but I haven't seen terribly glowing reviews either.
webertime reply :
At the $100 price point I'd look at the Abu Veritas, St. Croix Mojo or Premier, Lamiglas Excel, Shimano Compre, and BPS Carbonlite. The TFO's are made in Korea with a blank that was designed with the help of Gary Loomis.
hookingem reply :
Those TFO rods feel NOTHING like a Loomis. Now granted I haven't fished one. I'd say consider a Veritas or If you can spend a little more a Crucial.
johnD. reply :
Temple Fork Outfitters paid to have his name associated with these rods , in hopes of pulling the wool over a few people eye's....Apparently it has worked pretty well.
0119 reply :
Well, I on the other hand actually have and use one. No its not a Loomis, thank God. The wonder boy enthusiasts at that other site say its only so so no Steez. Its not supposed to be. What it is, is tough and strong. Lightweight for a $99 rod. Lighter than my Vendetta's. Lighter by far than my Mojo's. Better, they are available in a wide range of lengths being that there are 6ft and 6'6" models. Something rare these days. Better still, the rear grips arent ridiculously long like so popular now. Since not everyone fishes standing at the bow of a million dollar boat, its nice to have a grip length that works well from sitting in a canoe or kayak. So far mine has fought and landed tarpon to 15lbs. snook over 30" and a 18lb redfish. I'll happily keep my no loomis tough rod. Loomis is famous for customer service, the series of rods has been named by Field & Stream as their top pick. TFO has rod series that feature famous anglers names like Kreh and Clouser.
Hooligan reply :
I thought the exact opposite, with their rods weighing between 4 and 5.3 ounces, the lighter weight rods are heavier relative to the specific rod. The difference in weights, however is close all the way through, not usually varying much more than one tenth of an ounce. For argument's sake both makers have a 7' Med Fast that weighs in at 4.2 ounces. A good portion of the Mojo lineup is under or at the weight of the TFO rods by comparison.
What I didn't get out of the TFO is a "feel" for the rod. It just seems...well...dead. It's takes a smack of a hit to make the rod come to life. They have very long recovery time, and they really aren't finished that well.
Lastly, when it comes to weight, it isn't so much the weight that is the question. The question of weight is more properly addressed by where that weight is. If the weight isn't positioned so that the rod is in balance, it could weigh an ounce and it wouldn't feel right.
grampa1114 reply :
On the other hand...I've been using 2 St.Croix Triumphs with 2000GT Okuma reels for my main rods for 4 years...trouble free and very light with enough backbone to catch 3 20# carp.
0119 reply :
I dont care what the specs say, in the hand they're lighter. Its all about balance and tip heaviness. Oh I forgot, Im speaking well of a product not made for a technique specific app by a worshipped manufacturer. Careful you'll become a troll like me if you speak highly of something cheaper than Shimano and never......never speak of carp. That'll make you a troll for sure, unless your fishchris.
grampa1114 reply :
I think I've been mistaken for someone who cares what other people think...
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
On 4/7/2011 at 11:32 AM, 119 said:Well, I on the other hand actually have and use one. No its not a Loomis, thank God. The wonder boy enthusiasts at that other site say its only so so no Steez. Its not supposed to be. What it is, is tough and strong. Lightweight for a $99 rod. Lighter than my Vendetta's. Lighter by far than my Mojo's. Better, they are available in a wide range of lengths being that there are 6ft and 6'6" models. Something rare these days. Better still, the rear grips arent ridiculously long like so popular now. Since not everyone fishes standing at the bow of a million dollar boat, So far mine has fought and landed tarpon to 15lbs. snook over 30" and a 18lb redfish. I'll happily keep my no loomis tough rod. Loomis is famous for customer service, the series of rods has been named by Field & Stream as their top pick. TFO has rod series that feature famous anglers names like Kreh and Clouser.
I think the price of some boats are directly proportional to grip length
Hooligan reply :
For the record, I wasn't going by just the actual weight of the rod. I've actually fished the TFO and was not impressed with it for the reasons I listed above. They felt heavy, heavier by comparison to most of the other rods in that class. The Premier, the Compre, the Veritas, and Vendetta are all rods in the same class that fish better, have better components and fish lighter than the TFO. I maintain that there are better rod selections in that class. I'm glad that you're happy with yours, but there are other options that, when choosing a rod in the class, people should be advised of before making a final decision based on one opinion.
QuoteI think the price of some boats are directly proportional to grip length
Now that's comedy gold.
traindog71 reply :
I have the TFO Loomis in Spinning ML Fast 6'6", it is lightweight in the hand and very well balanced and sensitive enough for my purposes, I use it strictly for wade fishing for smallies. For its purpose it is a good rod, it is correct in its price range, you pay for $100 rod, you get a $100 rod. It is not a St Croix Legend Elite, but I didnt pay for one either.
smalljaw67 reply :
Lets start from the beginning, Gary Loomis had nothibg to do with designing or building the blank, what he did was allow Temple Fork Outfitters or TFO to use tapers he designed, the blank material and building process is TFOs own. The first rods are 100 worthy but the difference is there are more and more manufacturers showing up in this price range so the price is staying the same but the rods are improving which is why some similarly priced rods may be better, remember, these came out around the same time as the Vendetta and were given good marks based on what was available at that price range but from what is offered now it seems these rods are far from being the best in their respective price range. The blank does feel "dead", but I think the reason for it is the series is using a good taper with a lower modulus graphite in order to keep costs down and still have a durable rod with at least some degree of sensitivity without it weighing as much as an ugly stick. I just used my friend's TFO Tactical series rod and it is head and shoulders above their first offering, in fact it is light weight, and the blank has a lively feel to it, if it wasn't for me liking the new Fenwick rods so much I would have got one of the tactical series rods but the Loomis signature rods, I don't care for those.
SirSnookalot reply :
If 0119 says it's a good rod, that's good enough for me, anyone catching tarpon, snook and redfish knows what I would like in a rod...........I may look at one the next time I'm in the market.
mikebone reply :
i have all st croix rods and never have had a problem with them. if the rod breaks or has a problem you can send back to st croix and theyll fix it or send you a new one for free you just gotta pay for shipping. but overall i love st croix and have never had any problems with there rods
smr913 reply :
I have a 6' Light Spinning Rod from TFO. It's pretty well balanced with a Sahara 1000 and serves as my small water setup. I have a 7' Medium Spinning Triumph that I do not care for at all. It sits in the garage and doesn't see the light of day. Off the topic a little, my dad has some TFO fly rods that he enjoys and actually got to talk with an executive from TFO at an expo. The guy took the time to go over to an empty parking lot and give him some pointers on fixing the tailing loop in his cast.
Capt.Bob reply :
In that price range its pretty hard to beat or top a St. Croix Premier, $99.00-$120.00 for fairly light, crisp, sesative and decently balanced rod, WITH A 5 YEAR WARRANTY! and a company known to extend excellent cutomer service. Unless you worry about looking stylish!
rangerjockey reply :
I bought one of the TFO spinning rods a few years back for one of the kids, it's not a bad rod but there is a lot of competion in that price range. I really like the Denali's or the st.croix for the money.
SirSnookalot reply :
This thread is starting to resemble the hardcore shimano one about reels, again it's preference. In the $100 range I like my Redbones and my Star's. Star has an over the counter lifetime warranty, Redbone discontinued their over the counter(still lifetime) in 5+years never had one break and I'm catching some mean hard fighting fish with.
I fish with a guy sometimes that owns a 42' yellowfin with 3 300 motors, has an array of offshore combo that most people could retire on, he can afford anything. I was on the beach one day and he happened to be there we swapped outfits. I fished his St Croix and he fished my Redbone, 2 days later I see him again with a Redbone in hand, didn't take him long to be convinced. I have caught 1# fish and felt every vibration of my bait, have also caught fish well over 30# and with the same rod. Just boils down to whatever you are comfortable with. Only thing I recommend is having an open mind and not to be a lemming.
tomustang reply :
On 4/7/2011 at 8:51 PM, 119 said:Shimano
For someone that hates shimano so much your sure like to drag their name into every conversation.
Capt.Bob reply :
I think the question was TFO, compared to a Triumph, or another St. Croix in that price range. I will take the Premier if given those options every time. Just my opinion.
I wont deviate from the OP's question, and make this another Shimano hardcore testosterone whatever, by bringing in a Veritas,Lamiglass, Crucial, Compre, Carbonlite, Denalis, or Redbone and Star. 
where did that come from?? But yes the kettle is black.
My answer to your question was Premier would be a better rod in that price range of the rods you ask about.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 4/7/2011 at 4:22 AM, Wammiee said:How does the G. Loomis TFO $100.00 Stack against similar priced rods?
I see alot saying its moreso TFO and hardly GLoomis quality..Anyone have firsthand experience?
Alot of mixed reviews on the quality of this rod and if its worth the price or better off with something like a St Croix
^^This is the question.^^ My answer is I don't know, but I do know there are some very good rods in that price range, whether they are St Croix or not. For me, if I can have a rod that performs at my expected level has a lifetime warranty( over the counter is a big plus) and is durable, I don't care who makes it. For the most part I don't look at recommendations, except from a select few. As previously stated one of the members catches similar fish as me, I value that opinion, I'm always open minded.
georgeyew reply :
The rods are on sale for $50, what would you all say at that price?
NWI-Bassin' reply :
On 2/5/2013 at 4:15 AM, georgeyew said:The rods are on sale for $50, what would you all say at that price?
Where ?
georgeyew reply :
On Wide Open Spaces....
NWI-Bassin' reply :
On 2/5/2013 at 4:37 AM, georgeyew said:On Wide Open Spaces....
No need to be a smart a#* . I didn't know if it was a legitimate question .
J Francho reply :
Just type it into Google.....
NWI-Bassin' reply :
On 2/5/2013 at 5:06 AM, J Francho said:Just type it into Google.....
i looked it up . Sorry about that , some smart a#* said that to me once . so i thought it was the same ******-ness . sorry bud
webertime reply :
Reed's has had them on sale (buy one for $100 get one of your choice free and get a hat).
0119 reply :
At $50 its a steal to me. They have become my favorite rod. They have a more traditional length rear grip and are well suited for kayak or canoe.
J Francho reply :
No sweat NWI! 
Bluebasser86 reply :
The BPS Carbonlite is a very nice rod in the $100 range also. The hard thing about getting an answer to this question is not everyone likes the same feel as others do. I'm apparently less sensitive to the weight of my rod as I have a few Mojos that have a bad rep for being extremely tip heavy and have no problem feeling or catching fish on them. Best thing is if you can get to a tackle shop and see what one feels best in your hand. Some stores will even let you put a reel on them so you can really see how they'll feel in your hand.
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