I am getting more serious in bass fishing an I think I am going to get a baitcasting combo. I love frog fishing and it is my favorite type of bass fishing. I am thinking about getting the Daiwa Light and Tough Frog Rod. I found one very cheap. I was thinking to pair it with a Abu Garcia Revo Sx-Hs. I'm not 100% sure and I am open to many suggestions. Rods? Reels? Anything that might help me get better? I have had some luck but with better equipment and more knowledge I think I will be able to catch a lot more. I want to know what you think about this combo though? I posted this in general bass forums also on accident (sorry I'm new) reply to this one instead if you see it on both.
I don't know anyone who doesn't love topwater frog fishing.
I have the Revo SX and love it. However it's 6:4:1 which is too slow in IMHO. So I just got two Revo rockets for topwater and topwater frogs. The Revo SX fars a good deal farther than my Plueger Patriach and that's a great reel.
I'd definitely go with a 7:1 or faster.
I've never used a L&T rod but I do know they were favored by many of the Daiwa pro staffers when they were available. The SX should be a good reel to pair with it. I have a Daiwa Tatula Type R in 8.1 on my frog rod and I like it a lot.
Do you think this combo could be good with other fishing? I love frog fishing but it won't be the only thing I will do. So do you think this combo could double as an every day rod? I have researched both the reel and rod and I like the combo. But do you think it could be good with everything else? At least until I could get a second baitcaster? That is if I fall in love with baitcasters. Or do you think my spinning combo would work better for other fishing rather than this combo?
Normally a frog rod can double as a jig rod, heavy t-rigs, c-rigs, small swimbaits, pitching and flipping, really anything that requires a heavier rod. It probably won't be good for everything but you can definitely do more than just fish frogs with it.
Thanks for all the replies! Keep them coming!
I have a light and tough Crankbait rod, wish they still had them so I could get another. I think that rod will probably serve you very well. As for the Reel, I did really well with frogs the past few years with a Citica that has a 6.1 gear ratio. But I understand the need for higher gear ratio. I ended up getting a Curado for cheap. I have 2 Revo S reels and a Revo Winch and LOVE them all. I dont see how you can go wrong with a Revo, and the Revo SX has a 7.1 gear ratio. Sounds like a pretty great combo to me. Wish I had one.
I have the Revo SX-HS (7:1) and Revp STX (7:1) and I love em both, I use my SX for frogs because it has braid and my STX for other applications. I reiderate I ABSOLUTLY LOVE MY SX!!!
There are tons of options on rods and a lot of that is going to come down to personal preference. Me personally, I am a big abu garcia guy. So maybe trying one of their rods in a heavy action. Like the veritas. However I am also a fan of the wright& McGill rods. Their lure specific rods usually meet my needs and style of fishing flawlessly. As far as reels I would say that the sx is a good one. I have one myself but do not use it a ton because I usually throw my revo premiers as my revo winch. IMO if it says revo, it's golden
Thanks again for more replies they are very helpful.
Do you think this would work throwing Rapla's or throwing out a spinner or spoon? Do you think it would even work jigging for walleyes off the bottom? Or would my spinning combo work better for those things?
spinnerbaits yea, cranks no. I have yet to catch a walleye so can't help you thereOn 5/30/2014 at 8:58 AM, Tyler B said:Do you think this would work throwing Rapla's or throwing out a spinner or spoon? Do you think it would even work jigging for walleyes off the bottom? Or would my spinning combo work better for those things?
Anyone else?
Frog fishing is one of the most exciting and exhilarating applications of our sport. It happens to be my favorite as well. I used to have a 2nd Gen Revo SX as my frogging reel until I gifted it away. If you are leaning towards a SX, get it in the 7.1:1 ratio. In my case, curiosity got the best of me and I went with another reel for my frogging applications. I went with a Curado I. This reel suits me well. As far as rod? I am not familiar with rod you speak of. All I can tell you is make sure the rod is rated as a minimum a MH. H would be ideal. Pair off the reel and rod you intend to use and see how it feels and balances out for you. Best of luck.
If you've never really used baitcasters I would suggest just getting a cheap one for now and seeing what you think about them first. I would suggest either the Black Max or the Pflueger Templar.
Ive got a fever! And the only presciption is more froggin!
It is certainly one of the most fun ways to fish. BC or spinning gear it doesnt matter, just have enough rod and line to get em out of the slop and pads!
I know I love it! There are no Lillie's in MN yet so I have to wait and it is driving me nuts! I want to fish with them but can't. Can't wait until I get this combo though it sounds great!
On 6/1/2014 at 10:11 PM, ForrestByTheStream said:If you've never really used baitcasters I would suggest just getting a cheap one for now and seeing what you think about them first. I would suggest either the Black Max or the Pflueger Templar.
I find It is a lot easier for people to learn using a baitcaster if you purchase a high quaility reel. My friend started with a Black Max and struggled til he tried my Chronarch. There was still a learnig curve, but the higher end reel helps. IMO If you don't take to baitcasting you can always sell the reel.
On 5/27/2014 at 8:09 AM, Jrob78 said:I've never used a L&T rod but I do know they were favored by many of the Daiwa pro staffers when they were available. The SX should be a good reel to pair with it. I have a Daiwa Tatula Type R in 8.1 on my frog rod and I like it a lot.
I posted about that reel after learning more about it. Do you think it would be better than the Sx for frogging?
On 6/5/2014 at 5:30 AM, Tyler B said:I posted about that reel after learning more about it. Do you think it would be better than the Sx for frogging?
I'm not a fan of Abu reels so I don't own a SX and can't make a comparison. I know AG makes good reels, they just aren't for me.
I agree using the best gear you can.... A good deal on a rod is a big drive and nice... Skimping on a baitcaster may prove to hurt more in the long run... Really good reels perform much better... Make learning fun and easier... Plus holding their value longer in the event you resell... That's my opinion. The rod you picked out should be fine for some other applications too... Play around and find out... Learning the rod and reel will really make you a better fisherman and allow you to make you're presentations nicely !
Good luck!
I usually have 4 frog rods rigged on the deck the daiwa light and tough has been my favorite since it came out - it is a very versatile rod that can do lots of other duties.
On 6/5/2014 at 8:45 PM, frogflogger said:I usually have 4 frog rods rigged on the deck the daiwa light and tough has been my favorite since it came out - it is a very versatile rod that can do lots of other duties.
Do you have any of the reels I mentioned? Tatula type r or revo sx
No, I use an Ardent 1000, an old calcutta 250 (my favorite frog reel) - I'm sure the tatula would work as would the revo - they just have to be able to stand up to the grinding big fish festooned with veggies into the boat.On 6/5/2014 at 11:59 PM, Tyler B said:Do you have any of the reels I mentioned? Tatula type r or revo sx
Does anyone have an idea about how old those L&T rods are? Aren't they pretty old?
7'3 hvy Powell inferno w/ a 7:4.1 lews speed spool and 65lb spider wire braid. Then you'll be cooking. Lews reels are much better made than abu's. Really just get a rod that feels right. I woundnt spend more than 150$ on my first rod and no more than 150$ for the reel as well. But don't buy an Abu, for a lews and make sire it's a high gear ratio. Best of luck
On 6/13/2014 at 9:24 AM, NorthFloBassin said:7'3 hvy Powell inferno w/ a 7:4.1 lews speed spool and 65lb spider wire braid. Then you'll be cooking. Lews reels are much better made than abu's. Really just get a rod that feels right. I woundnt spend more than 150$ on my first rod and no more than 150$ for the reel as well. But don't buy an Abu, for a lews and make sire it's a high gear ratio. Best of luck
I found the rod for $65 and I was thinking about the daiwa tatula type r more than the abu now!
Cabelas sells a Cabelas Tournament ZX rod and Daiwa Tatula reel combo for $199.99
I'm sure it has been and will go on sale again.
I have G. Loomis, St. Croix Rage and Mojo Bass and my Cabelas Tournament ZX are my favorite rods.
I looked it up and I was looking more for the tatula type r (the one in 8.1:1) the normal one doesn't have that gear ratio
Does anybody know why the guides on the LT frog rod are backwards (like a spinning rod)? What do you think about it? Does it make it better or worse? What was the point of that?
Walleye on a frog rod? Yea right... I'll stick to my 66ml and 66m spinning rods.
On 6/30/2014 at 12:12 AM, Tyler B said:Does anybody know why the guides on the LT frog rod are backwards (like a spinning rod)? What do you think about it? Does it make it better or worse? What was the point of that?
Never mind this post. I probably had one of the worst brain farts of my life.
On 6/5/2014 at 5:30 AM, Tyler B said:I posted about that reel after learning more about it. Do you think it would be better than the Sx for frogging?
i have a Gen 3 SX the gear box is huge i would go with lews or daiwa.