Update incase you haven't heard:
BATSON ENTERPRISES PARTNERS WITH NORTH FORK COMPOSITES, A GARY LOOMIS COMPANY.
New Catalog: http://batsonenterprises.com/batson-catalogs-online/
Press Release: http://batsonenterprises.com/news/
Sequim, WA, January 1, 2015 - North Fork Composites, a Gary Loomis founded USA rod blank manufacturing company, announced today that they have entered into an exclusive partnership for an indefinite strategic deal with Batson Enterprises. The new, innovative partnership leverages the respective strengths of Batson Enterprises and North Fork Composites to create a compelling value for both companies.
Batson Enterprises is a leading rod blank and rod components manufacturer/wholesaler, distributing their products and services worldwide. The company serves a large range of customers from OEM, Private Labels, Retailers, and rod builders.
"The Batson family and Gary Loomis have been friends for over 20+ years. It gives me great honor and respect to partner with Gary Loomis and his USA rod blank company, North Fork Composites. Our team has been blessed with this opportunity and collectively both Batson Enterprises and North Fork Composites look to grow this industry/craft/art." says Bill Batson, CEO of Batson Enterprises "We are very excited to not only add a USA made blank to our lineup but help our current distribution avenues with a RainShadow USA made product as well. We look forward to this exclusive partnership and look to evolve the industry." Bill Batson adds.
Gary Loomis the founder of "GLoomis" has been involved with graphite composites for fishing rods from the beginning. Some say that he is the "Grandfather" of composites for fishing rods. After selling the company to Shimano in 1995 Gary Loomis focused all energy entirely on fish conservation (Fishfirst.org, JoinCCA.org.) In 2010 Gary Loomis makes a comeback! He has armed his new company, North Fork Composites, with "Generation2" materials and technology built entirely in the USA. North Fork Composites distributes its label to OEM/Private labels and to the custom rod builder market, as well as managing its complete line of finished rod products with Edge Rods.
"After nearly five years of research and development I am proud to introduce my next generation of American made line of blanks. Our agreement with Batson Enterprises allows us the opportunity to focus on our core; "Generation2" materials and technologies, manufacturing, and design while leveraging the strength of Batson's distribution. I couldn't be more excited to bring these new products to the US and the World driving the American manufacturing back home." - Gary Loomis, Owner, Designer, Founder
"North Fork Composites engineers and staff are thrilled to be able to offer handcrafted blanks, handles, and reel seats built with over 80 years of composites experience through wider distribution. Quality and performance that the industry has grown to appreciate and love, re-envisioned with the best technology and materials available today." - Aleks Maslov, CEO, North Fork Composites
The distribution agreement between Batson Enterprises and North Fork Composites takes effect on December 1st, 2014 and will be fulfilled, January 1, 2015.
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About Batson Enterprises:
Batson Enterprises is one of the leading innovators of fishing-related products. Our diverse product portfolio is full of quality-trusted brands that are respected worldwide. Our products are distributed globally through a number of our well-recognized brands, including:
RainShadow • North Fork Composites • ALPS • ForeCast • ToughStick • Guidespacing • Jaguar Designs • Team RainShadow
Batson Enterprises is committed to enhancing fishing experiences. With our vast array of product lines, there are many combinations available to customize any rod build.
http://www.batsonenterprises.com
About North Fork Composites:
North Fork Composites is Gary Loomis's next generation of rod blanks and finished rods. The quality and craftsmanship that people know today combined with future enhancements is what makes North Fork Composites the leading visionary of “Made in the USA” fishing rod products Focusing on the demands of the sporting goods industry where the balance of performance, durability, and weight are crucial to, and often the deciding factor of success has enabled NFC to become a trusted partner in composites manufacturing.
http://www.northforkcomposites.com
Welcome aboard!
I read that end of year last year. Sounds like good news!
Thanks for sponsoring the best forums online!
Best of luck to all involved!
tight lines,
Bob
Has Anyone tried the new Norfolk rods yet?
I have had only one experience with Batson and it was excellent. I was looking for a short powerful 4wt fly rod blank for high mountain streams. I spoke with a number of folks, including Jason Borger at North Fork. (He said they didn't carry such a beast but were "batting" around ideas for some short rods lol). I then found in Batson's wide range of blank offerings a 7-1/2ft XF 4wt blank! I hadn't heard of Batson at the time but the person on the phone I spoke with was very knowledgeable and I took a shot. The blank was perfect. Thank you Batson!
So Gary, does this mean that you are going to cut the prices of your NRX line in half?????
Seriously, sounds like a great marriage.
Hope this will allow Gary and his team to expand the NRX line and to continue to improve his blanks.
Welcome to the Forum.
Gary Loomis has zero affiliation with the company that sells the NRX.On 1/7/2015 at 7:21 PM, Sam said:So Gary, does this mean that you are going to cut the prices of your NRX line in half?????
Seriously, sounds like a great marriage.
Hope this will allow Gary and his team to expand the NRX line and to continue to improve his blanks.
Welcome to the Forum.
On 1/7/2015 at 12:36 PM, AVIDBF2015 said:Has Anyone tried the new Norfolk rods yet?
AVIDBF2015, They are the GEN2 of Gary Loomis! GEN 2 Designs, GEN2 Materials, GEN2 Processing. So if you had or heard about any of the previous companies rods, you can expect the GEN2 of all of that!!
Remember that his previous company stop selling the blanks and only offered them in complete rods. Now you can build your rod how ever you want it utilizing the new NFC blanks by Gary Loomis exclusively through us. You can either buy them from any one of our distributors or you can buy them directly from their website.
On 1/7/2015 at 2:12 PM, Paul Roberts said:I have had only one experience with Batson and it was excellent. I was looking for a short powerful 4wt fly rod blank for high mountain streams. I spoke with a number of folks, including Jason Borger at North Fork. (He said they didn't carry such a beast but were "batting" around ideas for some short rods lol). I then found in Batson's wide range of blank offerings a 7-1/2ft XF 4wt blank! I hadn't heard of Batson at the time but the person on the phone I spoke with was very knowledgeable and I took a shot. The blank was perfect. Thank you Batson!
Paul Roberts, thank you so much. Our RainShadow line is always available. www.rainshadowrodblanks.com Also check out the new blanks that came out Eternity2, Immortal and Revelation lines!
We also have a website dedicated to rod components as well: www.alpsforecast.com
We want people to build their ultimate rod! Not limiting to what rod manufacturers put on a rod!!
On 1/7/2015 at 7:21 PM, Sam said:So Gary, does this mean that you are going to cut the prices of your NRX line in half?????
Seriously, sounds like a great marriage.
Hope this will allow Gary and his team to expand the NRX line and to continue to improve his blanks.
Welcome to the Forum.
Well lets see. GEN2 revisions and refinements do come at a cost. I think originally his rods blanks were $400+ now they have different price points for different levels. So in a way, they are reduced!!
Our distribution and his building allows customers from all levels to get into GARY LOOMIS's new brands! These are one of the finest USA made blanks around!
Thank you, Please ask any questions if you have any!!
On 1/7/2015 at 8:55 PM, Tywithay said:Gary Loomis has zero affiliation with the company that sells the NRX.
That is correct. This is his new GEN2 line of everything. Rods, Rod Blanks, and Handles!
I really love Batson rod blanks ( Rainshadow) but hope they are not merging with Loomis as Loomis rod blanks are seriously overrated and definitely way overpriced ....
On 1/8/2015 at 2:48 AM, pgersumky said:I really love Batson rod blanks ( Rainshadow) but hope they are not merging with Loomis as Loomis rod blanks are seriously overrated and definitely way overpriced ....
Thank you so much for your support!! RainShadow brand is going to take off!! Anthony Gagliardi FLW Forrest wood cup champion and Keith Combs BASS elites is fishing them all this year!!!
Our partnership is very close partnership. The Batson's and GARY LOOMIS have been personal friends for decades! The new GEN2 North Fork Composites blanks are probably one of the finest USA made blanks on the market. But everyone has their own take.
Thank you again for your support, we hope to help out in anyway!
They're merging with North Fork Composites, Gary Loomis' company. G.Loomis is owned by Shimano and has no current ties to Gary Loomis in any fashion, aside from name.On 1/8/2015 at 2:48 AM, pgersumky said:I really love Batson rod blanks ( Rainshadow) but hope they are not merging with Loomis as Loomis rod blanks are seriously overrated and definitely way overpriced ....
I know that , I was referring to NFC . NFC blanks are way over pricedOn 1/8/2015 at 4:36 AM, Tywithay said:They're merging with North Fork Composites, Gary Loomis' company. G.Loomis is owned by Shimano and has no current ties to Gary Loomis in any fashion, aside from name.
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Welcome aboard!
On 1/8/2015 at 5:19 AM, pgersumky said:I know that , I was referring to NFC . NFC blanks are way over priced
NFC Blanks are some of the best on the market, even for the money.
I'll stick with Rainshadow and Phenix rod blanks ...
On 1/8/2015 at 5:45 AM, Tywithay said:NFC Blanks are some of the best on the market, even for the money.
I'll stick with Rainshadow and Phenix rod blanks , I like longer blanks
Curious, does anyone know how Gary's NFC blank compares to the NRX blank? Anyone have a chance to fish them both? Any comparison would be appreciated.
On 1/8/2015 at 7:09 AM, ChicagoEd said:Curious, does anyone know how Gary's NFC blank compares to the NRX blank? Anyone have a chance to fish them both? Any comparison would be appreciated.
The HM blanks are on the same playing field with the NRX blanks. There's no real test to show sensitivity between rods, but having fished them both, I don't know that I could tell a difference with my eyes closed. NFC also has an IM and SM blank, which are excellent as well.
On 1/8/2015 at 7:12 AM, Tywithay said:The HM blanks are on the same playing field with the NRX blanks. There's no real test to show sensitivity between rods, but having fished them both, I don't know that I could tell a difference with my eyes closed. NFC also has an IM and SM blank, which are excellent as well.
On 1/8/2015 at 7:09 AM, ChicagoEd said:Curious, does anyone know how Gary's NFC blank compares to the NRX blank? Anyone have a chance to fish them both? Any comparison would be appreciated.
Yes.. From what we can tell its the GEN2 of his previous endeavor. That being said, they will either "fish" identical or better than before. As Tywithay said, no way to really compare unless you did charted information. From what we can tell the charted information shows an improvement in all areas! But really matters on how it feels in your hands.
On 1/8/2015 at 7:12 AM, Tywithay said:The HM blanks are on the same playing field with the NRX blanks. There's no real test to show sensitivity between rods, but having fished them both, I don't know that I could tell a difference with my eyes closed. NFC also has an IM and SM blank, which are excellent as well.
Great answer! You should feel a slight difference in NFC's products, but it is very hard to tell. Data on our end again shows improvement coming directly from NFC.
I'm confused. Is Nfc manufacturing a blank for Rainshadow that will have the Rainshadow name on it, or is Rainshadow just distributing current Nfc blanks? One thing I don't really care for is Nfc is making specific blanks for other companies such as Kistler, as well as his own. Hard to know which blanks are better than others. Gary has his own standard mod, intermediate and high, then makes the same only different for Kistler. Good for business and consumer, confusing none the less.
On 1/8/2015 at 7:50 PM, Hogsticker said:I'm confused. Is Nfc manufacturing a blank for Rainshadow that will have the Rainshadow name on it, or is Rainshadow just distributing current Nfc blanks? One thing I don't really care for is Nfc is making specific blanks for other companies such as Kistler, as well as his own. Hard to know which blanks are better than others. Gary has his own standard mod, intermediate and high, then makes the same only different for Kistler. Good for business and consumer, confusing none the less.
Hogsticker,
I completely understand.. Let me clarify. RainShadow is a completely separate brand from NFC. Batson Enterprises partnered with NFC to be the sole distributor of branded NFC blanks. That being said, who knows what Batson Enterprises will do for the future.
We understand about private label blanks from NFC. We honestly do not know which models private labels choose to build their rods with.
We can understand the confusion. This being said, you can guaranty on the blank side of NFC, your getting the best. You can't hide anything when its just the raw blank that comes to your door step!
I'm still confused. So I can no longer purchase nfc blanks from the nfc Web site? Sole distributor? Your statement throws me a bit. When you comment nfc is the best, are you telling me to purchase there product as it is better than your Rainshadow blanks? Why not just offer a high end blank that can compete with a high mod nfc blank? I would love to see a raw carbon high end blank from Rainshadow that can compete with the likes of nfc or Phenix K2. Competition is a good thing.
What's the time frame for NFC blanks to be in stock at Rainshadow dealer locations? Are you positioning NFC blanks as "Top of the Line" over say, Rainshadow's Hi-mod? Or just another option?
On 1/9/2015 at 12:22 AM, Hogsticker said:I'm still confused. So I can no longer purchase nfc blanks from the nfc Web site? Sole distributor? Your statement throws me a bit. When you comment nfc is the best, are you telling me to purchase there product as it is better than your Rainshadow blanks? Why not just offer a high end blank that can compete with a high mod nfc blank? I would love to see a raw carbon high end blank from Rainshadow that can compete with the likes of nfc or Phenix K2. Competition is a good thing.
From what I can gather nfc blanks are still available from the nfc website. NFC just falls under batson enterprises now.
Welcome aboard, and thank you for both supporting the forum and answering questions personally.
Too me it seems like Batson has a wider distribution network and nfc will be leveraging that.
Personally I have had a hard time finding a place to buy these blanks from and didn't want to pay $30+ to have one shipped clear across the country.
On 1/9/2015 at 12:22 AM, Hogsticker said:I'm still confused. So I can no longer purchase nfc blanks from the nfc Web site? Sole distributor? Your statement throws me a bit. When you comment nfc is the best, are you telling me to purchase there product as it is better than your Rainshadow blanks? Why not just offer a high end blank that can compete with a high mod nfc blank? I would love to see a raw carbon high end blank from Rainshadow that can compete with the likes of nfc or Phenix K2. Competition is a good thing.
Hogsticker,
A: Yes you can buy directly from NFC's website as well as any one of Batson Enterprises dealers.
A: NFC is the one of the finest "USA" made rod blanks. As in terms of is it better than our RainShadow Blanks, there isn't really a comparison since we have completely different models. We don't have any models that are similar since NFC designs differently than Jaguar Designs for RainShadow.
A: We are partners because we can both benefit from each others strengths.
A: We may come out with a raw carbon Eternity2 possibly as a Limited Run. But everyone has their own opinion of painted vs non painted.
A: We believe the current Immortal line competes with everyone's "HM". The Eternity2 is above and beyond!
On 1/9/2015 at 12:25 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:What's the time frame for NFC blanks to be in stock at Rainshadow dealer locations? Are you positioning NFC blanks as "Top of the Line" over say, Rainshadow's Hi-mod? Or just another option?
Delaware, very soon! They have been slowly getting out to our distributors and should be available in the next few weeks. The NFC is another option for customers to purchase. NFC is 100% USA made in Woodland, WA. NFC is a top of the line rod blank. The RainShadow Eternity2, Immortal, and the Revelation are also top of the line rod blanks as well. I hope this helps..
On 1/9/2015 at 12:30 AM, Mike2841 said:From what I can gather nfc blanks are still available from the nfc website. NFC just falls under batson enterprises now.
Yes this is true..
On 1/9/2015 at 12:36 AM, J Francho said:Welcome aboard, and thank you for both supporting the forum and answering questions personally.
Thank you so much J Francho, we want to be as informative as we can. We want to help spread the word!
On 1/9/2015 at 12:50 AM, EvanT123 said:Too me it seems like Batson has a wider distribution network and nfc will be leveraging that.
Personally I have had a hard time finding a place to buy these blanks from and didn't want to pay $30+ to have one shipped clear across the country.
Thank you so much EvanT123! Yes we have a wide distribution and you should be able to purchase these from your local and online retailers. Of course if you want to buy it now, you still have the option to purchase online directly.
On 1/9/2015 at 12:57 AM, Batson said:Hogsticker,
A: Yes you can buy directly from NFC's website as well as any one of Batson Enterprises dealers.
A: NFC is the one of the finest "USA" made rod blanks. As in terms of is it better than our RainShadow Blanks, there isn't really a comparison since we have completely different models. We don't have any models that are similar since NFC designs differently than Jaguar Designs for RainShadow.
A: We are partners because we can both benefit from each others strengths.
A: We may come out with a raw carbon Eternity2 possibly as a Limited Run. But everyone has their own opinion of painted vs non painted.
A: We believe the current Immortal line competes with everyone's "HM". The Eternity2 is above and beyond!
Delaware, very soon! They have been slowly getting out to our distributors and should be available in the next few weeks. The NFC is another option for customers to purchase. NFC is 100% USA made in Woodland, WA. NFC is a top of the line rod blank. The RainShadow Eternity2, Immortal, and the Revelation are also top of the line rod blanks as well. I hope this helps..
Yes this is true..
Thank you so much J Francho, we want to be as informative as we can. We want to help spread the word!
Got it! Please let me know if and when that limited run becomes available!
Its not set in stone But several people have asked for it.