Rage Tail. Epic Fail. 2024
NewAngler reply :
I know I am going to take a beating from this, but I'm wondering if anyone else is struggling with this line of baits.
Let me preface with saying that this is MY (hope you guys caught that) opinion on the baits, but I think they are horrbile. great concept, great marketing, great water displacement but I have gotten the big ole' skunk everytime I toss one. I feel I have given them a fair shot, and I think I might be donating them.
My Dislikes;
1.) Price. $6 for 5 or 6 baits that aren't the easiest to make true. (shad, eeliminator)
2.) Castability. Great weight, but feel like I'm trying to heave a frisbee in a vertical manner.
3.) The Hype. oooo the hype. "thanks to my rage tail product I caught the LUNKER OF A LIFETIME!" Which could be true, but maybe I could have caught the same lunker with my horny toad, buzzbait or culprit curl tail. Who knows?
I don't claim to be an elite angler, nor do I even claim to be an average angler. I have caught a few fish, and I have given them a fair shot. I know there is a pretty big RAGE following and Big-O is a great guy that offers great advise on his product and other products. I just PERSONALLY (hope you guys saw that one, too) hate the line, and am pretty sure I'm directing my rage to dumpster.
Let me have it.
roadwarrior reply :
Rage Tail products have eclipsed GYCB as
MY FAVORITE BAITS! For the most part
they have unique design and available color
combinations personally designed by Steve
Parks (Big O). The action of the baits is incredible
and the packaging designed to protect the appendages
that produce this action. I am totally impressed with
Rage Tail baits.
More importantly than appearance is effectiveness.
I have been VERY successful with these baits.
Everyone (else) I know says the same, both
publicly and privately.
Rage Tail rocks!
Siebert Outdoors reply :
Hey man, not all baits are for every fishermen. That's why there are thousands of different brands and types.
They are pretty cool, I haven't fished them much. So I really don't have an opinion on them. They do have some good concepts though.
Which ones are you fishing?
fishfordollars reply :
I am doing quite well with them. Maybe it's where you are fishing them.
I catch a lot of large fish on them. Could it be there is a lack of quality fish where you are trying to use them? Or maybe you are fishing them incorrectly. Let us know where, how, and what type of water you are fishing. Which lures are you fishing and what size? If you are trying to force feed a bunch of smaller fish a larger lure that may be a problem. Just thinking out loud. Let us know.
SoFlaBassAddict reply :
Yep, horrible baits. Send them to me, I'll make sure they're disposed of properly. 
Blame the angler, not the bait.
tyrius. reply :
The rage tail lineup is excellent. I've had success on everything I've fished. Now, they aren't the end all be all of soft plastics. They have a TON of action. More so than other soft plastics of the same design. The Rage chunk has more action than a regular chunk, but this isn't always a good thing. It's up to you to know when it is and when it isn't.
Don't direct your rage to the dumpster, direct it to me. I'll make use of them
NewAngler reply :
Blame the angler all you want. Hell, I do it all the time. I have used the Anaconda, Elliminator, Shad, Toad and Space monkey.
My usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these;
Shad- Top water, obviously. low light, over weeds, early am, late evening. On the Potomac River. A pretty good fishery. But what do I know?
Anaconda- As I would any worm. Around lay downs, in between grass pockets.
Eeliminator- I was most anxious to use this one, tried the topwater, couldnt get it to run true easily. Finally got it, nothing. Used it.. jiminy crickets, I used the baits where I felt like they would be a good fit, and off of some advice from other anglers. They don't work for me. Plain and simple. There has to be another person in the world that they don't work for. They're pricey, too.
Dixon reply :
Im sorry but it bugs me to just throw a line of baits under the bus. If you cant catch a fish on a rage products then something is wrong.
I would take a rage toad over any soft plastic frogs on the market. Those things are awesome. Rage lizards are to me better then zoom lizards which is the standard on the market.
Ragetail line of products is flat out awesome.
rondef reply :
We were fishing a trophy lake in Virginia and tearing it up with craws, baby craws, shad lizard and a few other Rage Tail baits. One of the guys in my boat tossed a Rage Craw and caught this big ole hawg by slowly dragging the craw off a drop off and into a deep hole. Needless to say this fish was a true trophy 8lbs 6ozs. This person had only been bass fishing for a couple of weeks peior to catching this hawg. I have many other stories and pictures but this is one of the recent ones. I have thrown all of my other plastics away and I only use Rage Tail baits because they catch fish and most times better quality fish.
kikstand454 reply :
i like the rage craw and the rage shad is awesome.
however.... i tend to agree with everything you said.
they are overpriced for the amount that you get. and add on top of that they arent very durable (esp the shad) and the bang for the buck is low.
as much as i love the craw... i cant say that it has produced any more fish for me than the zoom speed craw... which is cheaper and more durable. so ive kinda just switched to those.
i will continue to buy the shads just because they are such a different action than other plastic topwaters, but i have found myself only throwing them when i am very confident that im on a spot that has good sized fish. i dont want to waste my rage shads as search baits.... thats not a good way to feel about a bait. its how i feel about some of my bigger nicer crankbaits and it drives me crazy. lol.
jmho
bweave09 reply :
QuoteWe were fishing a trophy lake in Virginia and tearing it up with craws, babay craws, shad lizard and a few other Rage Tail baits. One of the guys in my boat tossed a Rage Craw and caught this big ole hawg by slowly dragging the craw off a drop off and into a deep hole. Needless to say this fish was a true trophy 8lbs 6ozs. I have many other stories and pictures but this is one of the recent ones. I have thrown all of my other plastics away and I only use Rage Tail baits because they catch fish and most times better quality fish.
Why would you do such a thing? Do you never throw a straight tailed worm, stick bait, or jerkbait? Rage Tail baits are nice, but you cannot use them for every application.
ab8aac reply :
Since the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind.
So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog?
Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy.
You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general.
salute
Frank Williams
Uncle Leo reply :
If a bait will produce a fish like this. 5 lb 11oz I would say they are worth what I paid, it is my money, until the wife gets ahold of it that is. By the way it was caught on a Rage Tail Craw, Summer Craw color. This trip we averaged 43 keepers a day. Other were caught on cranks but a vast majority on Rage Tail Craws and Space Monkeys. Way to go Big O on designing fine baits!
NewAngler reply :
If RT was the only thing I threw I'm sure I would eventually catch fish on them. I'm not too convinced that they will catch bigger fish than any baits I use on a consistant basis. As Kikstand stated, I don't see the bang for the buck. I have only experience the lack of durability through re-rigging, not from catching bass.
IMO, there are more cost effective plastics out there. "Better value", if you will.
rondef reply :
Here is another Rage Tail big ole hawg caught by my future son in-law when we taught him how to fish. This was his first day bass fishing and he caught this pig 5lbs 6ozs on a Rage Tail lizard.
New Angler, if you want some help with the baits let me know, we are practically neighbors.
Siebert Outdoors reply :
Nope, not putting any blame on anyone. There are alot of lures out there that are great. I don't use them. Bomber is one of them. I don't own a single one. Anyway,
I guess what I'm trying to say is if its not working for you, you will need to change something. Technique, style, presentation, lure.
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteIf RT was the only thing I threw I'm sure I would eventually catch fish on them. I'm not too convinced that they will catch bigger fish than any baits I use on a consistant basis. As Kikstand stated, I don't see the bang for the buck. I have only experience the lack of durability through re-rigging, not from catching bass.IMO, there are more cost effective plastics out there. "Better value", if you will.
Yep that is why you have your rite to spend your own money
kikstand454 reply :
yeah....
before i get jumped on too....
im just stating that there is a better value out there with other lures.
not that the rage tails are in anyway inferior or cant catch fish... ive caught a fair share on them. just that im not in anyway ready to give my other plastics away and buy only rage tails any time soon.
or ever for that matter.
tyrius. reply :
QuoteMy usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these;
Did you have success with other lures/soft plastics in those locations at the same time?
You didn't mention if you were having luck with something else at the same time. The fish may have not been where you were, when you were there.
But, I also agree in that all lures are not for everyone. I hate lipless cranks. Never really have any luck with them at all!
To each their own.
NewAngler reply :
QuoteSince the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind.So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog?
Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy.
You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general.salute
Frank Williams
Frankster,
Who is trying to start an arguement? Not me. Isn't a forum a place to discus their opinions, and give advice and feedback? Is my post an opinion of mine? Good, glad we're on the same page. And AS I STATED, I know they catch fish. I do. Just not for me. And Leo, that is a hog, bro, I just can't seem to find the fish with these little buggers.
As far as throwing a company under the bus? I haven't. They obviously have a HUGE following, and their marketing and product placement is ridiculously flawless (IMO). This is also part of the hype I was talking about. I give an opinion, and its not one that you guys agree with, so somehow my opinion is incorrect. Which is cool, because thats your opinion.
Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. I don't know about you guys, but I leave other people opininions (and butt holes) to them selves.
And enough of the "send them to me"'s. IMO, they aren't worth the postage. I have a few buddies locally that might get Rage Tail tattoos that would love them.
NewAngler reply :
QuoteQuoteMy usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these;Did you have success with other lures/soft plastics in those locations at the same time?
You didn't mention if you were having luck with something else at the same time. The fish may have not been where you were, when you were there.
But, I also agree in that all lures are not for everyone. I hate lipless cranks. Never really have any luck with them at all!
To each their own.
Oh yea, my mistake. Ha, a huge part my discussion was left out. Yes, I was having luck with other topwaters, creatures, and worm style baits in the same day. Albeit, they weren't in the EXACT spot at the EXACT time
rondef reply :
Here is a 5lb 8oz caught locally in Northern Virginia on a Rage Tail Lobster. I have many more I can post but it is the same thing, hawgs being caught on Rage Tail baits right here in Northern Virginia.
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteQuoteSince the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind.So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog?
Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy.
You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general.salute
Frank Williams
Frankster,
Who is trying to start an arguement? Not me. Isn't a forum a place to discus their opinions, and give advice and feedback? Is my post an opinion of mine? Good, glad we're on the same page. And AS I STATED, I know they catch fish. I do. Just not for me. And Leo, that is a hog, bro, I just can't seem to find the fish with these little buggers.
As far as throwing a company under the bus? I haven't. They obviously have a HUGE following, and their marketing and product placement is ridiculously flawless (IMO). This is also part of the hype I was talking about. I give an opinion, and its not one that you guys agree with, so somehow my opinion is incorrect. Which is cool, because thats your opinion.
Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. I don't know about you guys, but I leave other people opininions (and butt holes) to them selves.
And enough of the "send them to me"'s. IMO, they aren't worth the postage. I have a few buddies locally that might get Rage Tail tattoos that would love them.
Any plastic presentation takes patience. I threw crankbaits for years. About 5 years ago I dedicated myself to nothing but plastics in every presentation know. My catch rate went up. I finally learned patience which made me a better angler and person. I also use Zoom Brush Hogs, and Tiki Senkos. After having a couple of hundred pounds of plastics I finally figured out what to use. Any presentation requires patience, give it a try and do not blame the bait.
Glenn reply :
Ok folks, just because somebody doesn't like them doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.
I personally cannot catch a fish on a swimbait for the life of me, but that doesn't mean they're bad. It just means they're not my cup of tea. No big deal, right?
So let's keep that concept in mind.
Blue Streak reply :
The Rage Tails are no better or worse than any other plastic bait I have used. I certainly have not given up on them, but they are not magic either. And they are pricey and a little too big for this area. But, Big O has some neat ideas.
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteOk folks, just because somebody doesn't like them doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.I personally cannot catch a fish on a swimbait for the life of me, but that doesn't mean they're bad. It just means they're not my cup of tea. No big deal, right?
So let's keep that concept in mind.
I know what you mean Glenn, the only Bass I ever caught on a swimbait are Stripers. They are a fresh water tuna ;D
Give it a try when they are busting on shad.
Let's talk some swimbaits!!!!!!!
senile1 reply :
New Angler stated:
QuoteI have used the Anaconda, Elliminator, Shad, Toad and Space monkey.
I agree with those who have stated that some baits don't work for some individuals. However, before you give up on Rage Tail completely I would suggest you try the Craws and the Chunks. You don't mention that you have tried them yet. I use these as jig trailers and the action really does attract nice bass more often than not.
Captain Obvious reply :
QuoteAny presentation requires patience, give it a try and do not blame the bait
True but if you don't have confidence in a certain brand don't fish it. NewAngler isn't giving up on soft plastics, rage tail baits just haven't gained his confidence. He hasn't said that the baits are bad, they just don't work for him. Don't give up you'll find the brand that fits you and then your set.
mudkart reply :
I'm with New Angler on many of his points regarding hype, etc. IMO, I don't see an application for the RT craw/frog type baits you cannot duplicate w/ baits from competitors (paca craw, horny toad come to mind). On the other hand, I've done well w/ the space monkey in the past, and the rooster caught me a keeper bass (and a snakehead) in a Potomac tx just this Tuesday.
shootermcbob reply :
I like the rage tail baits, and have caught fish with them. I also use some zoom flukes, trick worms, and some GYCB senkos and swim senkos. I also really like the yum houdini shad. I have also caught a few fish on strike king 3X plastics finesse worm.
My point is there are several soft plastics companies out there, experiment until you find the ones that you have confidence in and throw those.
I am not sure comparing them to other plastics fished in "not exactly" the same places at "not exactly" the same times is fair.
Dixon reply :
I think you have to have confidence in what you throw. Very important
Swimbaits are for Cali and Texas lakes it seems like.
To me the rage toads just make more noise then the horny toad.
rondef reply :
I agree, if you don't have confidence in a bait then don't use them.
buzzcatcher reply :
Since you have some friends that use the RT line, see if you can trade the ones you don't like for some RT lizards in GP or JB depending on water clarity and maybe some craws in Black/Blue. Just a few to try, you WILL catch fish on the lizard. It is by far the best lizard out there, I have caught up to 5 fish before biting the head off and rerigging to catch 2-3 more on the same bait. Try that with a Zoom.
Also, the RT toad is second to none and even more durable than the rest. It WILL catch fish.
Buzz
A.Do? reply :
It takes patience and confidence to learn a new technique or lure.
I had the same issues with jigs till i started nailling them left and right.
IMO All lure will catch fish. posting pix of a fish caught on lure xxx won't prove anything to anyone with any common sense.
You just have to go out there and use the lure, if you don't like it then stay away or put it aside till you're fishing with someone who has worked that bait with success. Watch them work the lure and maybe pick up on what you're doin wrong with it.
I enjoy rage products but i don't fish them exclusively and sure as heck don't tell people that they will work any better than any other similar lure.
Hammer 4 reply :
First, swimbaits work in waters from N.Y. to Cali..make no mistake about it..
Even in the high pressured city park lakes, I've managed to catch a few nice bass on the RT baits. The craw chunk on my jigs, their lizards work great weightless over the tops of weeds..
I also have the annie, the craw, and the toads. I have fished other toads, None of them comes close to creating the wake/bubbles the RT toad does, that dosen't mean that will work for you, but I certainly would give em a try.
N.A...I would only suggest that maybe you look at your presentations on these baits, and also the manner in which you rig them..Not sayin it's your fault for not gettin fish, but just see if there's something that may not be clicking.
Then again, we can always toss our swimbaits.. ;D
rboat reply :
I have mixed outcomes on the RT products. I like the rage shad because it is a great buzzer that goes anywhere. I also like the anacondas, a different type of worm that works well in certain areas. I think the rage toad is ok, but I prefer others. I am trying some of the other RT products now so I cannot comment. Like most companies some of their products I like and some I have found others that I like better. Lures are tools and all will work under the right conditions. Keep some of your RTs you never know when it may work out to be the best thing you throw. The RT products went through alot of research, development, and field testing. They are good baits.
Bassin_Fin@tic reply :
I havent read this whole thread but just to throw my .02 in:
1) They have to be rigged PERFECTLY.If not then they don't perform.
2) They are about the most durable baits on the market and also take to mend it and lighter treatmets extremely well,thus making them well worth the extra money IMO. On a craw I can get between 8-10 bites or fish normally.
burleytog reply :
Durability isn't an adjective I'd use to describe Rage Tail baits. It is just the nature of the bait. To achieve the desired action, the plastic is going to have to be thinner.
I use them, haven't noticed that they have increased my catch rate. I still have better luck using Yamamoto plastics.
senko_77 reply :
NewAngler, I didn't even bother reading many of the replies because I figured almost all of them would be people taking it way farther than they should.....
Here's my take on the whole thing.
Ragetail baits are just another tool for an angler to use. There are going to be days when they wild action triggers bites better than any other tool in your tacklebox, and there are days when that action probably turns those fish off. I like trying the Ragetails and other brands on my trips. There are days when the Zoom Horny Toad whacks em and then others when The Rage Toad kills them and the Zoom doesn't get bit.
I'm a huge believer in RageTail on days that are tough and days that are on fire. I think the crazy action triggers reaction strikes in lethargic fish, and also gets active fish even more active. On just the so-so days that are the norm for me, I seem to do better on other baits.
I really think that you should hang on to your RageTails a bit longer. Don't go buy anymore, but don't go giving them away. Keep throwing them every once in awhile and see if you can't gain some confidence in them. We both know how important confidence in. I tell you, I know when I put a Space Monkey behind a pegged quarter ounce weight, I KNOW I will get bit at some point during that trip.
Message me next time you see me on FB, and we can try to figure out some solutions for your E-Ragetail Dysfunction
David P reply :
QuoteIm sorry but it bugs me to just throw a line of baits under the bus. If you cant catch a fish on a rage products then something is wrong.I would take a rage toad over any soft plastic frogs on the market. Those things are awesome. Rage lizards are to me better then zoom lizards which is the standard on the market.
Ragetail line of products is flat out awesome.
If it's ok to praise the hell out of products, posting several threads about how great a product is, I can't see how posting a negative thread about a product is any different. He just gave his honest opinions.
I have purchased 2 packages of RT, caught 0 fish, and haven't tried them again. I'm sure they work, for many people, but whether they work any better then other products in similar categories would be tough to prove. They give anglers confidence, and that truly does help, so to all the people that love RT baits, keep on catching great fish!
Negative threads like this aren't bad, in fact, I love to see them. So many guys think there's only ONE answer to certain situations and bait companies, the fact is, there's hundreds of baits out there. In many cases, 10 different baits will all catch the same fish. It's your choice.
Big O Tires Angler reply :
I want to start off by saying that NewAngler in his first post stated multiple times that this thread was his OPINION. He never went on to say anything negative about the Rage Tail products, but shared his experience and dissatisfaction with the product.
I really like these types of threads because it brings everything back into reality. Everyone talks about how Rage Tail makes products that seem to always magically put 10 pounders into the boat.
I'd like to add that I've purchased multiple packs in several different colors of the Anaconda, Chunk, Craw, and Shad. I have NEVER caught a fish on either of these baits, and I have NEVER even gotten a bump. I've probably invested a good $100 into these baits and I've tried to give them a fair chance, but I just can never get the darn things to work.
Now, I know a lot of you are going to tell me that there is a certain way to work the bait...of course there is. That's how all baits work. There is no such thing as a lure that dives into the water and throws a 30 pound limit into your boat. And don't tell me to slow down or work it differently...I've tried. I think everyone on this forum knows that you have to slow down or speed up depending on what the fish want. This is all pretty common knowledge to all of us.
But, I'll continue to throw the Rage Tails from time to time hoping to catch something. Perhaps someday I'll catch a nice hog like you guys seem to do even with the baits still in the packaging.
paul. reply :
i like 'em. and i like the guy behind 'em. both the man and the baits are cool in my opinion. i've caught a bunch of fish on ragetails and some good ones too. and i've never seen a guy that goes to the lengths that Steve does to try to make sure folks succeed with his baits.
but i don't reckon there's a fishing product out there that everyone unanimously loves. and i don't reckon there's one that everyone unanimously hates either. even the helicopter lure and the pocket fisherman have their fans i guess. ;D ;D ;D
Blue Streak reply :
I think if we look at the topic about worst baits you ever used you will see that everybody doesn't like something. Some of the best baits I ever used were useless to some in that thread.
DINK WHISPERER reply :
The ONLY RT i have had success with is the Toad. But it is not a miracle lure by any means. Like stated above, they have there days like anything else. I bought every pack of RT toads at Wal-Mart when they put them on sale for $3 a pack! I ended up with like 37 packs! I agree on them being overpriced though. As soon as my inventory runs out its back to the Horny Toad........................................
iceintheveins reply :
So far I've only used the shad, but could not be more pleased. It casts well and has a fantastic action, even at slow speeds. Yes they are somewhat expensive, but I caught four bass on one lure before needing to change. Using a parasite clip with them help. They come through weeds slicker than snot and the hookup percentage is very good, only missed one strike. Seems they take them and hold onto them.
Catt reply :
I think everyone has a brand of lures they don't like or have had no luck with but the beauty of fishing is so many types of lures work.
I've caught bass half way across America with a Gene Larew 7 ½ Salty Ring Worm Cinnamon Pepper Neon/June Bug Laminated (Camouflage); yet I know a couple dozen people who can't catch a single fish on one.
I've had very limited success with GYCB Senkos while absolutely killing em with a Wave Tiki Stick.
Years ago Gene Larew came out with the HooDaddys and for several months we slayed the bass on Toledo Bend with them, the as suddenly as it started it died. The same thing happened with the Stanley TubaTube it went from hero to zero.
RageTail is here to stay
Captain Obvious reply :
QuoteI think everyone has a brand of lures they don't like or have had no luck with but the beauty of fishing is so many types of lures work.
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Dan: reply :
QuoteIMO All lure will catch fish. posting pix of a fish caught on lure xxx won't prove anything to anyone with any common sense.
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There's absolutely NO WAY to tell that a fish was caught solely because the right brand of bait was being used or if another brand or even style of bait couldn't have caught the same fish.
grimlin reply :
QuoteNewAngler, I didn't even bother reading many of the replies because I figured almost all of them would be people taking it way farther than they should.....Here's my take on the whole thing.
Ragetail baits are just another tool for an angler to use. There are going to be days when they wild action triggers bites better than any other tool in your tacklebox, and there are days when that action probably turns those fish off. I like trying the Ragetails and other brands on my trips. There are days when the Zoom Horny Toad whacks em and then others when The Rage Toad kills them and the Zoom doesn't get bit.
I'm a huge believer in RageTail on days that are tough and days that are on fire. I think the crazy action triggers reaction strikes in lethargic fish, and also gets active fish even more active. On just the so-so days that are the norm for me, I seem to do better on other baits.
I really think that you should hang on to your RageTails a bit longer. Don't go buy anymore, but don't go giving them away. Keep throwing them every once in awhile and see if you can't gain some confidence in them. We both know how important confidence in. I tell you, I know when I put a Space Monkey behind a pegged quarter ounce weight, I KNOW I will get bit at some point during that trip.
Message me next time you see me on FB, and we can try to figure out some solutions for your E-Ragetail Dysfunction
Best answer yet....I don't have much luck on my rage tail baits either.
So far it's mostly bluegills ripping off the legs and tails on these baits. ;D
Big Bait Fishing reply :
i also don't care to much for the rage tail baits i have tried (shad , anaconda , and the toad) they rip way to easily and i have found cheaper products that in my opinion work better . the bait i found i like the best out of them is the toad , jsut wish it was twice as big , that would be a winner . i even Pm'ed Big O about if there was any chance of them making a bigger size but he never even bothered to reply to me , so now i will not ever bother to buy these baits even if they did , nothing like being ignored to make you a negative fan of said products ...........
brushhoggin reply :
so when you can't get bit on a RT, what do you switch to that does get you bit? and are you fishing them in the same place?
T-rig reply :
QuoteNegative threads like this aren't bad, in fact, I love to see them. So many guys think there's only ONE answer to certain situations and bait companies, the fact is, there's hundreds of baits out there. In many cases, 10 different baits will all catch the same fish. It's your choice.
Exactly! Rage Tail baits catch fish but so do other baits.....
QuoteSwimbaits are for Cali and Texas lakes it seems like.
Wrong! Swimbaits will catch fish anywhere......
Captain Obvious reply :
QuoteNegative threads like this aren't bad, in fact, I love to see them.
I love to see them too but the weird thing is that this one is a negative review about one of BassResource.com four sacred things. ;D
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D4u2s0t reply :
Like said, it comes down to preference. I have NEVER caught a fish on a fat ika, lipless crank, or a lizard.... so I don't use them. Doesn't mean the bait is not good, just means they're not good for me.
I love the rage lineup, never have issues with them running true, and find them to be very durable. I catch many fish on the same bait without them tearing or not having the same action they have out of the box. If they're not running true, you need to hook them properly. But, the same can be said about majority of baits... if you don't hook a bait properly, it will spin in the water.
As far as castability?? I'm a lil confused... I have the space monkeys, roosters, craws, chunks, lobster, and shad. And they all cast a mile and a half.
I almost always have a rage bait rigged up on one of my poles, and probably use them more than any soft plastic these days. But again, like the op said, it comes down to preference, there is no right or wrong here.
Big-O reply :
There is no magic wand for fishing....Each RT is designed to be the best in it's class for specific styles. Like the Rage Shad, to create more noise, action and water movement than others and in the thickest of slop.... The Rage Craw for maximum action at slow fall rates and minimal movement..and so on.
The designs are different from the norm and this is the reason for the available instructions that are provided at every turn via inside packages, websites etc. Also RT has a discussion board or information center to cover any questions and comments on rigging and fishing techniques etc.
http://www.ragetail.com/ragetalk/index.php?board=1.0
In your info you mentioned that you are not a great angler but if you're actually interested or want assistance on learning how to improve, I know several people in the Va. area that are catching loads of quality fish and setting new PB's on RT's, they could possibly help you.
Also there are alot of great folks right here on BR that will be happy to give you advice on a variety fishing techniques that might give you some help or a head start for gaining valuable experience.
I understand your frustration and wishing that the fish could find you instead of you having to find them but this is one of the real challenges and ultimately "The Lure of Fishing".
Are they indestructable, No...A "New Driver" not knowing how to drive a Race Car is going to have a bad day if he or she wants to win the race....they're probably gonna have a wreck for their own lack of experience or knowledge.
I have always tried to be very accessible to everyone here at BR because this is my Home Forum and also the only one where I am a Sponsor.....In fact up until awhile back when this Forum had a hiccup losing all of my PM's, I'm positive that I was 100% for answering all correspondence I had received (and this is no easy feat). This is not intended to be an excuse, but I welcome PM's.
It's obvious that you have a real interest in becoming a better angler or you wouldn't be on this forum or have taken the time and effort to purchase what many believe to be the top products to assist you.
All of this to say, I'm sorry for your lack of success with any products you have tried (whether mine or others)
My first peice of advice to you is start with a T rigged Rage Craw and a 1/4 oz weight....The only time I can't catch fish with it is when I casted it up on the bank ;D
Hope this helps
Big O
www.ragetail.com
lightsout reply :
I honestly gave the anaconda, craw, and shad a chance. I have never got bit. One day was slaying them on the banks on a yum ribbontail, tried an ananconda in a similar color and never got a nibble. switched back to the ribbontail, started getting bit. I went on to throw senkos and flukes that day on the same stretch of bank, the bass were just plain eating whatever for me and my partner, except that anaconda.
Im sure they have their time and place, but I'm happy with other more economical plastics.
A-Jay reply :
Last week I realized that I needed a "new Bait". Something (soft plastic) different just to throw a little spark into the day. I decided to try several of the Rage Tail baits. So I put together a solid selection from TW and was just about to place the order. Then, I happened to open up this thread ~ I read the whole thing and now I don't know WHAT to do ! And the bait Monkey is bumming.
A-Jay
Red reply :
I have only used the RT Craw. It is responsible for my PB, in the avatar pic to the left. I used that whole pack up and caught alot of fish on them. Then I bought Pacas instead only because of the price. I caught alot of fish on them as well. I bought another pack of RT Craws last night and caught a nice bass today(see outing section). I think the RT craws, for me, catch bigger fish than the Pacas. I may try some other RT products in the future, the main thing holding me back is the price. FYI I haven't caught a bass on a senko type bait in at least two years! And yes I use them! ;D
rondef reply :
Big O, you can count on me and the other members of TEAM RAGETAIL to help out New Angler. All he has to do is ask and we will be glad to help him out with the baits.
Micro reply :
The Space Monkey is the most productive bait I've ever used. It casts as well as any plastic its size. It swims at the right depth for my favorite areas and conditions. It has a sweet 3D movement - the legs kick up and down and it has a subtle side to side motion at the hips.
It hasn't produced my personal best. That honor goes to the lowly pre-rigged Creme Worm and Culprit Worm. But I'll give it time. For me, the Space Monkey consistently produces many, and big, bass.
Big-O reply :
QuoteBig O, you can count on me and the other members of TEAM RAGETAIL to help out New Angler. All he has to do is ask and we will be glad to help him out with the baits.
Thanks Ron, I understand that he lives close to many of you and he likes the Potomac where I'll be next year for the National Wounded Warriors event....Maybe he can make that event with us.
Big O
www.ragetail.com
Dan: reply :
NewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?
NateFollmer reply :
I must say, I have only used the Rage Shad and I think it performs great. I cannot speak for any of the other plastics in the Rage line, but I do know that Strike King makes great jigs and hard baits also, so I doubt they would put their name on anything THAT bad.
I did have issues with the Rage Shad flipping through the water, but I went to a 5/0 hook (or if you still want to try a 4/0 get a weighted one, it will still float) and the flipping stopped.
The Rage Shad has all but replaced my buzzbaits. The Smokey Shad makes the smallmouth go crazy in the summertime!
Raul reply :
Not every bait works for everybody all the time, I would call buzzbaits of any brand as junk, no matter how much I try I just can 't catch fish on them, but are buzzbaits "junk" ? well, given the fact that a very large amount of anglers catch fish on buzzbaits I don 't think they are junk. So if it isn 't the bait then it must be me.
The problem is when you think of a bait as a do it all magic wand.
Personally, those Rage craws are great.
NewAngler reply :
QuoteNewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?
Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success.
Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right.
"I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!"
Nothing.
Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot.
Swimbait, please.
Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Quotei even Pm'ed Big O about if there was any chance of them making a bigger size but he never even bothered to reply to me , so now i will not ever bother to buy these baits even if they did , nothing like being ignored to make you a negative fan of said products ...........
Jeez...
IIRC, you did this same BS with Conway Custom Rods on SBN because they didn't get back to you.
Let me be the first to tell you this: People have lives that don't necessarily revolve around you.
One PM? That is very kind of you to take time out of your day to send one single PM. How about re-sending it or making a thread with your suggestion.
I have talked to Steve on a few occasions, both on the computer and in person. In my experience, he makes every effort to accomodate as many people as possible. Not everyone will be happy and not everyone will get a reply. It is not because he is ignoring you, it may simply be that your PM got lost in the shuffle.
Having issues with the baits is one thing. Making statements such as "didn't even bother to respond" is another issue entirely.
The funny thing is, even with you saying something like this, Steve would be more than likely to help you if you ever asked him a question.
Not that you would "bother." :
fishfordollars reply :
Quotei also don't care to much for the rage tail baits i have tried (shad , anaconda , and the toad) they rip way to easily and i have found cheaper products that in my opinion work better . the bait i found i like the best out of them is the toad , jsut wish it was twice as big , that would be a winner . i even Pm'ed Big O about if there was any chance of them making a bigger size but he never even bothered to reply to me , so now i will not ever bother to buy these baits even if they did , nothing like being ignored to make you a negative fan of said products ...........
What a ridiculous statement.
roadwarrior reply :
Hmm...
Anyone who has met Big O walks away with
a smile. He represents the finest aspects of
the sport. A gentleman in every way as well
as a very successful businessman.
8-)
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteQuoteNewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success.
Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right.
"I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!"
Nothing.
Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot.
Swimbait, please.
Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.
Josh,
You just have to try a Craw T-Rigged with 1/4 oz tungsten and 4/0 Gammie EWG. I telling you my friend it is the bomb when the bite is tough.
Good job with the swimbaits.
.dsaavedra. reply :
i can't stand the hype about them and i don't use them for that reason alone.
tyrius. reply :
In summary:
Not every bait/line of baits will perform for everyone. The saying "You can't please all of the people all the time." seems rather fitting here.
Some people have a strong tendency to use one bait/style of bait, Topwater Charlie comes to mind. He only fishes one lure. So basically, why does it matter if one random guy on a message board says that he doesn't have success with a particular bait that you like? Another saying "To each their own." is another one that fits.
Rage Tail baits perform well for many people, as evidenced by pictures and their many fans.
Rage Tail baits are a bit more expensive than other soft plastics, but come specially packaged in a clamshell to ensure the integrity of the bait.
Big-O is an invaluable resource here regarding Rage Tail baits and fishing in general.
Can we move on to bigger and better things now? Like maybe, which brand of senko is the softest/wiggliest/slowest fall/most salt/best color?
Big-O reply :
QuoteQuoteNewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success.
Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right.
"I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!"
Nothing.
Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot.
Swimbait, please.
Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.
NewAngler, I am familiar with you and your circle of friends, as I have kept up with many of your posts regarding fishing trips etc. And I can tell that each of you love to fish as much as the rest of us...But I am also aware that you are familiar with several other folks in your area that fish Rage Tail products and they are catching loads of fish and setting new PB's on a regular basis...hopefully this thread topic was not targeted to create controversy due to that groups good fortunes....lifes too short to intentionally initiate strife, enough of that comes our way by accident.
If I am wrong about the controversy factor and I hope that I am, as that seems rediculous and immature...we can focus on becoming the best angler we can be regardless of the baits we choose. If this is your interest, my offer is still open to assist you...
Because I am old and have fished extensively (my wife says excessively ;D) most of my life, I've had the opportunity to teach hundreds of young people like yourself, and many have become top notch tournament anglers as well as guides on a variety of lakes...
Also, the offer for you to be involved with me at the National Wounded Warrior Event on the Potomac next Spring is still open to you and all your friends as well....We all have something valuable to learn from these folks, and something valuable to offer them as well
We can discuss this further via PM's if you like, or we can continue on here
Big O
www.ragetail.com
rodnreel11 reply :
QuoteNewAngler, I am familiar with you and your circle of friends, as I have kept up with many of your posts regarding fishing trips etc. And I can tell that each of you love to fish as much as the rest of us...But I am also aware that you are familiar with several other folks in your area that fish Rage Tail products and they are catching loads of fish and setting new PB's on a regular basis...hopefully this thread topic was not targeted to create controversy due to that groups good fortunes....lifes too short to intentionally initiate strife, enough of that comes our way by accident.If I am wrong about the controversy factor and I hope that I am, as that seems rediculous and immature...we can focus on becoming the best angler we can be regardless of the baits we choose. If this is your interest, my offer is still open to assist you...
Because I am old and have fished extensively (my wife says excessively ;D) most of my life, I've had the opportunity to teach hundreds of young people like yourself, and many have become top notch tournament anglers as well as guides on a variety of lakes...
Also, the offer for you to be involved with me at the National Wounded Warrior Event on the Potomac next Spring is still open to you and all your friends as well....We all have something valuable to learn from these folks, and something valuable to offer them as well
We can discuss this further via PM's if you like, or we can continue on here
Big O
www.ragetail.com
That's a class act right there. If I were you NewAngler, I wouldn't even think twice about taking him up on that offer...
SoFlaBassAddict reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteNewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success.
Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right.
"I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!"
Nothing.
Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot.
Swimbait, please.
Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.
Josh,
You just have to try a Craw T-Rigged with 1/4 oz tungsten and 4/0 Gammie EWG. I telling you my friend it is the bomb when the bite is tough.
Good job with the swimbaits.
Same basic way I rig mine. Works great.
SoFlaBassAddict reply :
QuoteBecause I am old and have fished extensively (my wife says excessively ;D) most of my life, I've had the opportunity to teach hundreds of young people like yourself, and many have become top notch tournament anglers as well as guides on a variety of lakes...
Big O
www.ragetail.com
So um, yeah. How's about you come down to southern Florida and teach me a trick or six? HMMMMMM?
Keep at it NewAngler. Eventually you'll get bit with a Rage product. Like other people said, it's not a replacement for other plastics. They flat out work if they're presented in the right place and right time. Apparently shoestrings do also though......
NewAngler reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteNewAngler, you're probably rigging them wrong. Have you read the manual?Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success.
Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right.
"I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!"
Nothing.
Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot.
Swimbait, please.
Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.
NewAngler, I am familiar with you and your circle of friends, as I have kept up with many of your posts regarding fishing trips etc. And I can tell that each of you love to fish as much as the rest of us...But I am also aware that you are familiar with several other folks in your area that fish Rage Tail products and they are catching loads of fish and setting new PB's on a regular basis...hopefully this thread topic was not targeted to create controversy due to that groups good fortunes....lifes too short to intentionally initiate strife, enough of that comes our way by accident.
If I am wrong about the controversy factor and I hope that I am, as that seems rediculous and immature...we can focus on becoming the best angler we can be regardless of the baits we choose. If this is your interest, my offer is still open to assist you...
Because I am old and have fished extensively (my wife says excessively ;D) most of my life, I've had the opportunity to teach hundreds of young people like yourself, and many have become top notch tournament anglers as well as guides on a variety of lakes...
Also, the offer for you to be involved with me at the National Wounded Warrior Event on the Potomac next Spring is still open to you and all your friends as well....We all have something valuable to learn from these folks, and something valuable to offer them as well
We can discuss this further via PM's if you like, or we can continue on here
Big O
www.ragetail.com
Thanks, Big O. You just might see me out there next year.
In no way shape or form did I start this thread directed at any one individual, nor did I start it directed at a group of individuals. I didn't start this thread to start any controversy, but would be lying if I told you I didn't know it was going to happen. Like everything else in life, there are some people for certain thing, and there are people against certain things.
I am not, by any means, against Rage Tail products. I don't tie them on my line and say, "Ooo, I hope this doesn't work so I can log on to my fishing forum and stir the pot. I bet I could get 5 pages!" I just have no sucess stories stemming from my use. Its kind of like (a great anology coming, take a seat) a couple trying to conceve a child. It may not work, but it SURE IS FUN trying.
After recomendations I will pick up the craw and the fancy weight to boot. Hook that suminagun on a 4/0 EWG hook and pitch the little bugger at some laydowns this weekend. I truly hope a success story can be conceived from my months of planning.
Again, Big-O, you've never done anything less than impressive on this thread or any other response I've read.
Mrs. Matstone reply :
That is a great choice New, the rage craw is the bomb. In fact over the last 2 years my husband and I have caught many quality fish and most of them have been caught on any and all of the rage tail line up. Here is a couple of photo's from our latest outings and we were in fact using the rage craw. My husband was using his as a jig trailer. I hope you catch a new pb regardless of which bait you choose.
My husbands fish. Caught on the craw as a jig trailer
Mine on the craw
This is one that I got the other night. I caught this on the shad. The shad and the eeliminator are my favorites.
I hope you catch a new pb regardless of what bait or brand you choose.
Dan: reply :
Quoteur posts regarding fishing trips etc. And I can tell that each of you love to fish as much as the rest of us...But I am also aware that you are familiar with several other folks in your area that fish Rage Tail products and they are catching loads of fish and setting new PB's on a regular basis...hopefully this thread topic was not targeted to create controversy due to that groups good fortunes....lifes too short to intentionally initiate strife, enough of that comes our way by accident.
You should also be aware that there are many of us that are not members of "Team RageTail" that use RT baits with great success. It definitely is NOT about "our bait vs. your bait" or anything of that nature.
Diablos reply :
Ragetails are awesome but like every other bait they aren't magic.
I always have luck catching fish with the shads when the topwater bite is on. The fish wouldn't touch them the other day but inhaled my Lucky Craft sammy. Go figure.
bassinsergeant reply :
Well I had no problem this past weekend in Georgia with the Rage Tail product. I love the Eel and have loved it ever since i was introduced to it. Not only did we catch alot of fish but my son and i both caught our new PB's with it this weekend. We were dragging it carolina rigged over muddy bottom with scattered rock. We also caught several fish with a T-Rigged craw and carolina rigged anaconda. Here are a few pic's.
bassinsergeant reply :
Here's the one's that wouldn't fit.
=Matt 5.0= reply :
I switched all my jig trailers over to Rage Craws... my catch ratio went in the toilet... Considering that more than 70% of my fish caught in '09 were on a jig, that's not very reassuring so far.
senko_77 reply :
Quotei can't stand the hype about them and i don't use them for that reason alone.
Yo Dave, I hope that's a sarcastic comment. If it isn't, then I gotta ask why you would put yourself in a position to potentially miss out on a great fish catching bait just because other people are into them? I don't care if it's Rage, Rapala, Spro, or whatever else, why in the world would you rather not catch fish?
And for the rest of this thread, this is amazing. This place has turned into Republicans and Democrats. I have really enjoyed watching all the little cliques forming and feuding back and forth on the FISHING FORUM.....it's cute
Matt - Is it possible that this year is a little different for the fish? I know in 07' and 08' I destroyed them with a LC Sammy and a wacky rigged Trick Stick, but ever since then the bite has plummeted. Sometimes the fish change. They might not position on cover or structure the same as the year before therefore making your jig presentation not as effective. Just a thought.
burleytog reply :
QuoteI switched all my jig trailers over to Rage Craws... my catch ratio went in the toilet...
I had a similar experience in one night. Ran out of Flappin' Hogs (was getting bit like crazy), switched to a Rage Craw. Couldn't get bit to save my life. Tore the boat apart, found a package of Flappin' Hogs hidden in a compartment. Bite magically started again.
Captain Obvious reply :
I'm shocked how long this thing a gone on I mean six pages! I bet we couldn't get that if someone said they couldn't catch fish on a senko.
Here is what I've gotten out of it.
1. A lot of BassResource.com members fish RT baits and love them for the way they catch fish.
2. Big-O is a first class guy who is willing to help anyone catch fish, I think we should be thankful that he is a member here
3. Some guys just can't seem to catch fish on RT will others hate the amount of love they get here.
So what does all this information do for me. NOTHING!!!!!(Other than I'll start to pay more attention when Big-O post something)
QuoteThis place has turned into Republicans and Democrats.
Then consider me an independent.
grimlin reply :
I think my main problem is the size of some of those rage tail baits.They are quite large and beefy compared to some of the other baits i fish.From judging the quality of the fish caught with it in some of the pictures on here it's definitely seems like a big fish bait.I have enough problems trying to locate anything over 3# right now.
tyrius. reply :
QuoteI had a similar experience in one night. Ran out of Flappin' Hogs (was getting bit like crazy), switched to a Rage Craw. Couldn't get bit to save my life. Tore the boat apart, found a package of Flappin' Hogs hidden in a compartment. Bite magically started again.
So this
and this
should be considered equal? I guess I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to prove by saying that one type of trailer worked one night (hog) while another didn't (craw), especially when they aren't all that similar. Single night experiences don't really mean anything when it comes to judging a bait's effectiveness.
bweave09 reply :
QuoteQuoteI had a similar experience in one night. Ran out of Flappin' Hogs (was getting bit like crazy), switched to a Rage Craw. Couldn't get bit to save my life. Tore the boat apart, found a package of Flappin' Hogs hidden in a compartment. Bite magically started again.So this
and this
should be considered equal? I guess I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to prove by saying that one type of trailer worked one night (hog) while another didn't (craw), especially when they aren't all that similar. Single night experiences don't really mean anything when it comes to judging a bait's effectiveness.
To me, it didn't seem like he was trying to prove anything. He was just sharing an experience he had.
SoFl-native reply :
You guys should give yourselves more credit. It isnt the bait, it is you that makes the difference.
Those of you that catch fish on RT have confidence in them and fish them with confidence. This gets you bit. Whether you realize it or not....you fish slower, paying more attention, working the bait as if you know you are going to get bit....... and as a result you are a more effective angler.
When you fish a bait you do not like you fish poorly. Its only natural because you already know you wont get bit.....and you dont.
95% of the time confidence is the difference. Not the bait.
Primus reply :
QuoteI think my main problem is the size of some of those rage tail baits.They are quite large and beefy compared to some of the other baits i fish.From judging the quality of the fish caught with it in some of the pictures on here it's definitely seems like a big fish bait.I have enough problems trying to locate anything over 3# right now.
Grimlin I also live in Michigan and I can tell you that Rage baits are not too big for the bass in our waters. That said there is a time to downsize etc. but there are times when big sinkers and big baits will put plenty of fish in the boat and usually a better grade of bass. There are also plenty of 5# plus bass in our waters as I'm fortunate to land a few every season, stay patient the big ones will come.
Regarding the topic at hand I'm slowly getting around to using the Rage baits, like any product line they have some I like and some not so much but admitedly my expierence with these baits is limited as I have a ton of other soft plastics that I also do well with that I need to use up before I will start buying more. I can say that the Anaconda worm has made a favorable impression on me and I 'm going to start throwing the Smokin' Rooster and Space Monkey because they are different enough from my other plastics and even though I'm limiting my purchases of soft baits right now I couldn't resist these 2 offerings
fourbizz reply :
This entire thread is full of fail.
paul. reply :
3679 views. 90 responses. over a brand of baits and a simple matter of opinion. unbelievable. if the old saying that "there's no such thing as bad publicity" is true, then strike king and ragetail are sitting pretty right now. i hope this thread helps Steve get a new truck. ;D
roadwarrior reply :
Quote3679 views. 90 responses. over a brand of baits and a simple matter of opinion. unbelievable.
It will...
Anyone who hasn't fished Rage Tail Baits
will have to try them now!
8-)
Blue Streak reply :
Why do we go on so about Rage Tail products?
Shane J reply :
Cuz they rock!!!
BassThumb reply :
Rage Tail products are unique and create a lot of disturbance. They will continue to have a place in my tackle boxes. I just wish they were a little cheaper, but there's a lot of tackle I could say that about.
J Francho reply :
I think NewAngler should try something simple. Replace a t-rigged Paca Craw with a Rage Craw, or a jig and Paca Chunk with a Rage Chunk. If you fish a 10" Power Worm with a 1/2 oz. weight, try an Anaconda in the same situation.
There are some unique baits in the line, and I think sometimes this uniqueness could be your downfall. You're fishing an unproductive spot, heard all the hype, and try a new bait, thinkin its the magic bullet. Problem is, you're already in "retie frequently" mode, and have little confidence that what's tied on will get bit, and really, there is no magic bullet. All this results in lack of focus, impatience, and fickle bait choices.
When you get to this point, your bait isn't in the water as much,and when it is, you don't give it a chance, often zipping it back in and retying or casting back to a new spot. I'd say pick a day when fishing is decent. Not great, and not poor. Decent. Rig up two rods, and fish some bread and butter designs side by side, slowly.
I think results will be different.
moby bass reply :
After all this, I'll add my .02. I have had MIXED success with RT baits. I, too, balk at the price some because I have found if a fish destroys the nose, it's pretty well shot. I have tried gluing and heating but it seems to make the bait too hard. So, new bait x fish slamming it = $1.00 lost. Now, I was fishing a frog the other day, being sure to rig it as straight as possible and I just couldn't keep that thing from turning over, unless I fished it real slow. I have no idea why I couldn't keep it right side up. I have yet to get even a bite on an anaconda. My most successful RT bait has been the space monkey, but only in green pumpkin.
The other colors have not worked for me.
I've been wanting to try the rooster but cannot find any in my local stores. I tried the shad and had some success with that after I boiled the baits to soften the tail. Initially he tail flopped to one side,causing it to spin like a corkscrew. This was before the clamshell packaging to keep the action correct. I just picked up another color of the anacondas, on sale, to try, figuring that may be why I haven't gotten a bite.
Anyway, like I said, mixed success. I know you have to be where the fish are, and being shore bound, that ain't always the case. I don't get out a lot and I'm sure not in areas where some of the fish shown in this thread are. I don't consider myself an experienced angler when compared to some of the guys on this forum. That may be part of my limited success as well. I'll keep some Rage Tails around, probably just the space monkey, since that's been my best producer. I'll try the Rooster, if I can ever find any.
Nice_Bass reply :
Bought 8 packs of them three days ago,...going to try a few different riggings tonight. By the look of them, they do seem like big fish baits, and i will be fishing big fish waters.
Cheers,
RT Virgin
SimonSays reply :
I have mixed success also. I enjoy using the Rage shad wherever I would have used a buzzbait, the frog works well also.
The Anaconda I can't get a bite on. The spacemonkey rips if a bluegill nips at it.
I honestly do believe that they are overhyped and over priced, especially on these boards [of course the maker of these baits does frequent here so that might have something to do with it :] .
They're just another bait in the arsenal not better, not worse than anything else I have. Some situations call for them some don't.
Captain Obvious reply :
QuoteThey're just another bait in the arsenal not better, not worse than anything else I have. Some situations call for them some don't.
Final someone with some sense. Newangler we have found your problem you have yet to meet a situation that calls for RT baits
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