Posted Today, 11:13 AM
Thanks again these carbonlite rods are very light I love it but you guys know ,when you buy something get home and after the fishing trip we always see that guy..... You know ...he has everything he's got the 2014 shimano president with Abu Garcia brakes,gold boca bearings,and to top that off Loomis closed the factory down just to make a rod just for him with KVD's help of coarse, then he tells you about the new Fluor- braid line he has on it,now I'm looking at my set-up ..really ..I'm home telling my wife I need another million dollars of fishing equipment and she's looking at me like she made the wrong choice ( marriage) wise the poor kids are like mommy don't let me grow up to be like him,is there a chance the cable guy can be my daddy..PLEASE!! Yea! I hate that GUY... GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!'
You need a visit from the Bait Monkey. He will make your pain disappear.
Never play leap frog with a unicorn
That's okay, the fish don't know what brands you're using
That guy got where he was by not hating! haters got to hate!
Someone will always have something better,you can't go through life looking to see what others have because you eill never be a happy dude! You have a wife and kids be happy for having them. You can fish,like the other post said bass don't look to see what kind of boat,rod,reel you have! You may have more than he does already!
On 5/13/2013 at 8:33 AM, eyedabassman said:Someone will always have something better,you can't go through life looking to see what others have because you eill never be a happy dude! You have a wife and kids be happy for having them. You can fish,like the other post said bass don't look to see what kind of boat,rod,reel you have! You may have more than he does already!
Exactly, and besides I take great satisfaction and even a little pride in knowing I do what I do, as good as, if not better than a lot of guys on a WAY tighter, and smaller budget. I am not jealous of guys with more, it's there money, they earned it, they can spend it anyway they want. But I do dislike the d-bag who "thinks" he's better than you because he's spent more money on stuff in a season that you might in a lifetime. But that's not isolated to bass fishing, it's in every walk of life, but it is becoming far too common and getting worse in fishing by the year. It's one of the reasons I started a low entry fee, aluminum boat only tournament trail, to get away from the KVD weekend warrior/action figures, who marvel you with the specs of there NRX rods, and can recite the TW website to you by memory, yet, go "ike" when they actually catch a 12" keeper. And believe me, there are plenty of guys around here who will take your lunch and eat it too, out of a tin boat. In fact I would say a HIGHER % of the field in my past tin boat tournaments have been threats to win. Where in many of the true "opens" I have fished in the past, you get a lot of donations to the purse.
On 5/13/2013 at 9:26 AM, ww2farmer said:Exactly, and besides I take great satisfaction and even a little pride in knowing I do what I do, as good as, if not better than a lot of guys on a WAY tighter, and smaller budget. I am not jealous of guys with more, it's there money, they earned it, they can spend it anyway they want. But I do dislike the d-bag who "thinks" he's better than you because he's spent more money on stuff in a season that you might in a lifetime. But that's not isolated to bass fishing, it's in every walk of life, but it is becoming far too common and getting worse in fishing by the year. It's one of the reasons I started a low entry fee, aluminum boat only tournament trail, to get away from the KVD weekend warrior/action figures, who marvel you with the specs of there NRX rods, and can recite the TW website to you by memory, yet, go "ike" when they actually catch a 12" keeper. And believe me, there are plenty of guys around here who will take your lunch and eat it too, out of a tin boat. In fact I would say a HIGHER % of the field in my past tin boat tournaments have been threats to win. Where in many of the true "opens" I have fished in the past, you get a lot of donations to the purse.
Preach it brother....lol
Great post!!
Hootie
We have a guy in our club like that. Big new triton. The best of everything. Practices with his trophy wife in the boat ( which doesn't bother me... she is HOT!) But heres come this dude in a ratty old Ranger that screams by him on the take off. Then cleans his clock every time we get to the scales. You can tell our freindship is forced...I love every second of our relationship.
Yeah I should feel bad for owning nice gear. I'll think about that while I work 14 hour days. What a stupid post.
On 5/13/2013 at 8:43 PM, mod479 said:Yeah I should feel bad for owning nice gear. I'll think about that while I work 14 hour days. What a stupid post.
I have a guy at my work that always tries to make me feel bad for having nice stuff too. Just seems like jealousy on his part, or makes him feel like he's some how inadequate when it comes to fishing. It's not my fault his wife has him by the cajones and the wallet and won't let him buy better gear.
Awwwwww...... Did we strike a nerve with you? Well go rub some ointment on it. That is if you even have time to in your 14 hour days. The only stupid post in this thread is yours. This is not a bash the guy who works hard, and has nice things thread, this is a discussion of "that " guy who thinks money buys him success. Looks like you need to spend some of those 14 hour grinds polishing up your reading comprehension skills.
Nice gear doesn't catch you fish, that's for certain. I remember as a kid I had a friend that had every pair of Air Jordan's ever made. And every time we played basketball he dribbled off his foot lol. Having nice gear is great, but in this sport/hobby it's not required to be successful.
I look at those guys and laugh, spending their whole fortune just to stay on top. I have a 1947 Shaksphere Wonder Rod and a Mitchel Avocate, seems to me I catch just as many if not more fish than that guy.
On 5/13/2013 at 9:38 PM, TNBassin said:Nice gear doesn't catch you fish, that's for certain. I remember as a kid I had a friend that had every pair of Air Jordan's ever made. And every time we played basketball he dribbled off his foot lol. Having nice gear is great, but in this sport/hobby it's not required to be successful.
I knew a kid like this growing up and he wouldn't even play in the Jordan's... he was too worried about creasing the toe
I'd never want to feel that way about my fishing gear. It's there for one purpose, and that's to get used and catch fish. I worry that if I had some mega buck rods/reels that I'd be afraid to use them, and that wouldn't be any fun. I buy the best value gear I can afford. But then again all of my gear is paid for, boat and all.
@Coopdog72 You just need to outfish these guys. Problem solved.
I will say quality gear helps keep down mechanical problems but that's about it. I love bass pro shops brand gear because of cost verse use equation .They last about two or three season the way I use them but there cheap enuff I can replace them as needed. My friend is a high dollar man he has the best of the best and I still out fish him.
I've seen it in competitive shooting and I see it in fishing. Experience is far more valuable than having the latest, greatest gear.
I do think bass care about gear. especially boats.
I usually hammer fish in my dads stratos, but I cant do very well in my friends alumnacraft. now odly enough the bass in my local lake really seem to cater to trackers especially red ones...wierd lol
the last open I fished was wone by a red skeeter, 2nd was a red nitro and third was a red tracker...red! lol
yes ive been drinking
I guess what I'm getting from this topic, is, there is plenty of room for ALL of us in this sport.
Hootie
I seem to notice people who take care of their stuff in a top-notch manner than those who simply have all of the nicest stuff purely from it being the newest. It goes both ways. I've seen guys with the oldest stuff look the most capable and guys who look like they just won a $20,000 shopping spree to Bass Pro Shops look like they couldn't catch a cold. It's all in how you carry yourself and what kind of person you are.
Funny, it's not something I really pay any attention to. I guess I've met enough people from all walks of life to know that skill level and knowledge has nothing to do with what equipment one owns. I also know better than to make assumptions about somebody's ego based upon what gear they have. I've had my butt kicked from guys fishing out of leaky tin boats and 2nd hand store gear all the way up to people with shiny new boats loaded to the gills with expensive equipment.
And with few exceptions, every one of them were a joy to meet and talk to.
So to assume a person has their nose in the air because they own fancy equipment, or that they know nothing because they own beat up tattered gear, is a huge mistake, and a missed opportunity to meet a great person.
Don't worry the next day I came to my senses and my lovely wife points out that I still had the biggest bass caught in Florida for about 7 years 17lbs in my backyard. I mean 50 ft.from my back porch. On a helicopter lure ya'll remember that junk lol.
The fish don't know what brand of gear your using. As long as your bringing in quality fish at weigh-in nobody remembers what rod, reel, or boat your driving. They only (really) want to know where you've been and what your throwing....(lol).
My old fishing partner became one of those guys.....(sad to say).
He thought a $35,000 Ranger would make a huge difference in his catch ratio. He went out and bought Shimano Cores, St. Croix Legend rods, boxes upon boxes of high end tackle....
The problem? He had to work even harder and longer to pay for all the stuff. SO, pre-fishing became secondary. What happens when you stop doing any real pre-fishing? Guys (like me), with a crummy old boat, 10" worms, Pflueger Asaro reels and Vendetta rods beat you! (Lol)
Some guys I don't like much, I'll grant you that, but it's not because they have nicer equipment than I do. Heck, by SOMEBODIES standard (real or imagined), most of us probably have nicer equipement than them. I do tease my friend, sometimes, because he attempts to use gear that is not matched to a technique (such as fishing a frog in thick slop with an ultralight and 6 lb line) but even then it's ultimately his business and not mine.
I have experienced times when someone in a boat approximating the cost of my house will come roaring into the cove where I am fishing, send waves at my boat to the point where I have to sit down to avoid falling overboard, and then they go roaring off again after a half a dozen casts. It's difficult, sometimes, to not assume they didn't feel "entitled" with their fancy boat. But even then, it's their actions and not their property that defines them.
Hey, I'll admit I'd like to have more and better equipment and though sometimes I get that nagging envious feeling ...I have to take my hat off to the guys who make it happen for themselves. I definitely need more discipline! I've had two bass boats, one was a used Champion(paid for) that I wish I still had...and one was a new Triton that I should have never bought (financially....nothing wrong with the boat...I loved the boat) I've made some stupid decisions and have to live with it! That being said, I still get to fish with nice stuff though not as often as I'd like. I hope to get another boat someday soon....we shall see!
On the other side of the coin, I don't need a $500 Loomis that lets me know when one of the claws is crooked on my rage craw at 30 feet.....overkill for me...but if you got the bank, go to town! Nothing wrong with that at all!
I can fish with a stick and a string. I have had the cheap $20 combos and stuff. But if I choose to buy the nice gear, then I choose to. I don't have the top of the line, or the best. But I have good gear. It makes me more confident, and I worked for it. As long as my kids or wife don't go without, it is my decision and my life. I won't feel bad or feel superior. I will just be me, fishing with what I want to fish with.
Remember the saying "to each his own"?
It's just like anything in life... Some people drive a Ferrari, some a rusty old Honda. Some people eat filet mignon others eat hot dogs.
In the last tournament I fished I beat a lot of guys using trackers that are worth over 8k$ with a $1500 12 foot tin boat, ugly sticks and cheap shimano combos. The only fancy combo I have(its not that much either) its a baitcasting abu veritas with a $60 daiwa reel.
I spend my money on LINE and LURE/BAITS. The expensive stuff goes underwater.
On 5/14/2013 at 1:12 AM, BradH said:I've seen it in competitive shooting and I see it in fishing. Experience is far more valuable than having the latest, greatest gear.
you mean like those d-bags with tricked out 2011's, drilled slides and frames, 0.0001lbs triggers and holo sights where the rear sight should be, who can't hit a barn from 10 yards away? yeaaaaaaa, i loved it when i clocked in 1st with my stock xdm-9 :-D
Just do what you do best and do it to the best of your abilities, be with the ones you love and love the ones your with, all great quotes and certainly words we can choose to live by.
We need to be more aware of our own surroundings, be thankful for what you have and soak up every minute of it, don't let your focus be on material things that others may or may not have, you have your own creations to be much more involved with and they should be your point of focus, your success and failures are not measured by them, rather they are shared by them, what you teach is what they will learn.
Enjoy what has been given to you and work for what you enjoy to share with them.
Yuup ...momoney no brains. A lot of these kind round here
I had a conversation like this with some friends who I play music with recently. They thought I was nuts to spend $400 on a rod/reel combo. They said they can catch fish with an old crappy rod/reel. I said sure and we can play music with old crappy equipment but isn't it more fun when you don't have to worry about your equipment failing or when your equipment actually enhances your performance. Well, that got them thinking. I mean these guys have Harleys and they spend a ton of money on accessories. The thing is, if you work hard your time for enjoyment is so precious, I say get what you can afford and enjoy the crap out of yourself.
I spend my nights worrying about where the fish are, not what the other guy is using.
How does the fish know if I'm using a loomis or ugly stick... I think it's more about timing, place, and presentation than rod and reel. I get outfished by Walmart stuff a lot. I'm no master angler though...
I never really cared what others have, especially when it involves fishing. I have few rules when I fish but the one I tend to live by Is simply have fun. I suppose there are folks out on the lake that look down their noses at others equipment but as Glen said there are many great people with various stages of equipment that are great to talk to at the ramp after a day of fishing and those are the folks I will be associated with.
In the end If you're having fun, catching a few fish, and generally enjoying your time on the water then you are far more blessed than you know.
If that kind of stuff bothers you so much, i suggest staying far away from golf.
On 5/13/2013 at 3:34 AM, Coopdog72 said:Posted Today, 11:13 AM
Thanks again these carbonlite rods are very light I love it but you guys know ,when you buy something get home and after the fishing trip we always see that guy..... You know ...he has everything he's got the 2014 shimano president with Abu Garcia brakes,gold boca bearings,and to top that off Loomis closed the factory down just to make a rod just for him with KVD's help of coarse, then he tells you about the new Fluor- braid line he has on it,now I'm looking at my set-up ..really ..I'm home telling my wife I need another million dollars of fishing equipment and she's looking at me like she made the wrong choice ( marriage) wise the poor kids are like mommy don't let me grow up to be like him,is there a chance the cable guy can be my daddy..PLEASE!! Yea! I hate that GUY... GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!'
I LOVE THAT GUY!!! That guy always makes my day, especially when he gets his arse handed to him by somebody that looks like he just stepped off the set of the Beverly Hillbillies and jumped into a worn out boat with "inferior" equipment.
Now I like nice equipment, have my expensive toys and will spend what some consider "good money" on what I like, but what I purchase and how much I spend is not discussed with others and I will NEVER make others feel insecure about the gear that they use or can afford. Anybody worth a grain of salt and eating high on the hog has at one point known what it was like to crap in low cotton without two pennies to rub together. The insecure db's showing off their gear are the ones who never had it rough or have forgotten.
Those guys dont bother me, they are easy pickens usually. What really gets me nervous at the tournament launch is the older guy running a mid 90's boat with worn out front-deck carpeting and an antiquated, but well used sounder. Thats the guy that impresses me, thats the guy I want to talk to, thats the guy I want to go fishing with.
You get diminishing returns from your gear at some point. The rods may be lighter, stronger, better, but I keep telling myself that Brent Chapman won AOY last year with Wright and McGill gear (Skeet Reese and Rick Clunn rods $79-$99/rod) against all of the highest cost gear going (Ish's 40 Daiwa Steez combos, etc).
However, sometimes you "gotta look good to play good", so the expensive tackle is paying for confidence as much as it is paying for quality gear. If fishing means a lot to you and you want to buy a Champion rod or MGX reel, or ask for that high dollar G Loomis rod from your wife for Christmas, I say go for it. No hating here. I own gear across the spectrum and my money rods are in the $100 range (mojo, irod I got on sale) vs the $250 g loomis's I have.
I have a 500-600$ rig and a 45$ rig guess which one has caught more fish 45$ rig wins. once on a guided trip I had my expensive rig and the guide was impressed and wanted to use all day I let him for a few minutes but guess who caught the most fish and the biggest fish that day ( that I paid for) my girlfriend at the time who never fished before and the guide let her use his old zebco thumb caster
I bet I have ten grand in my boat, but you wouldnt know it to look.
I want a better boat but its not to look cool. Its being last regardless of what number you draw at the start gets old. You get to the top of the lake and someone has three in the box already.
On 5/13/2013 at 8:43 PM, mod479 said:Yeah I should feel bad for owning nice gear. I'll think about that while I work 14 hour days. What a stupid post.
AMEN
I try not to talk about equipment with other people if at all possible. I just stick to talking about the baits. But coming on this forum doesn't count
On 7/20/2013 at 2:56 AM, jhoffman said:I bet I have ten grand in my boat, but you wouldnt know it to look.
I know where bellefonte is...