Saw this video for the Natural Motion Lures Snake and it seems really cool. It says ESPN's the "Bass Professor" helped make it and he has over 800 10lbs+ fish. Not saying he caught them all with this lure.
But the lure looks interesting and worth a try when the topwater bite is on. However, they don't seem to be sold at regular stores like Cabelas or BassPro which would make someone skeptical. I can't believe one of the big box stores hasn't picked up some brand of snake yet, they even sell the Banjo Minnow. I checked and neither Cabelas or Bass Pro carries any type of snake lure.
http://store.bassprofessor.com/natural-motion-lures.html
A 12 inch worm texas rigged weightless can be deadly around weeds and lilly pads . Work it like a snake in the sense of laying it across sticks , halfway on a lilly pad the other half dangling off the edge etc . Watch for boils on the water , STOP AND HANG ON . Anything you can perch it on DO IT.
Surprising, I have never heard a positive comment on the snakes from anyone that wasn't sponsored.
I would think some of our Florida members might have something to say if they ever had any luck with
this bait.
On 8/18/2014 at 6:13 AM, roadwarrior said:Surprising, I have never heard a positive comment on the snakes from anyone that wasn't sponsored.
I would think some of our Florida members might have something to say if they ever had any luck with
this bait.
Yeah, I'd like to see if anyone else has tried them.
I have what appears to be the same ones in the video that I have yet to catch a bass on. My buddy on the other hand uses them when fishing for snakeheads and liked them enough to order a big box of them..
I bought this vary kit you have linked above and can comment from experience. First the snake baits are supposed to be refrigerated or kept cool due to the plastic they are made of it. Very odd, but nevertheless I have them in the basement fridge when not in use. Second, the snakes are very difficult to cast on a baitcaister for some reason. Sort of hard to explain but it is more of a weight issue and wind resistance issue. Don't expect to get respectable casting distance like you would on a standard topwater bait or weightless plastic. I fish them on a Medium or Medium heavy spinning rod with 12# mono in open shallow water areas.
The biggest selling point is the action and uniqueness of the bait. After moving them and then pausing them the snake will sort of coil around like a reel snake and then stop. It trigger some very good and explosive strikes.
However due to the refrigeration problem and casting distance issue It isn't something I would justify buying again.
I just use the "Big Worms" 10" and 12"- replicates the snake action.
I hate to be one to tell you this but that video is complete BS, they spliced 3 videos together. the strike is not the same shot, and after the strike their like "where did he go where did he go?" , you can hear the audio skip just before that. Also when he cast that snake he was around a bunch of cover and it was sunny but when he reels in the fish he is in open water adn its overcast. old tricks used to sell snakes to fisherman .
If a lure needs an infomercial its probably not amazing...
You'd think if this lure had any merit.. Strike King would have copied it by now
On 8/18/2014 at 10:25 AM, tcbass said:Yeah, I'd like to see if anyone else has tried them.
I have a bag of these. Don't remember how I got them, but I feel like it was a gift. I'll tell you what- I'll tie one on and fish it back-to-back with a frog the next time I'm working the weeds and see how they do. In any case- they float, they have good "alive" action and they seem to be decently thought out with hook keepers and such. I'll report back and let you know how it worked out.
I still wouldn't pay $50 for them though... Unless I nail a 10#er tonight that is haha
On 8/18/2014 at 11:22 AM, kickerfish1 said:
However due to the refrigeration problem and casting distance issue It isn't something I would justify buying again.
FWIW I've had a bag of them sitting in my tackle box for literally years and they still seem fine. Like I said, I'll do a back-to-back with these and a frog and I'll report back my full findings. Hopefully today if I can finish this darn paperwork!
On 8/18/2014 at 8:20 PM, Catch and Grease said:If a lure needs an infomercial its probably not amazing...
The Banjo Minnow actually works. lol
However, I have not bought a Ron Popeil Pocket Fisherman rod. lol
In my neck of the woods, if a bass sees a snake it swims the other way.
I have not tried it but years ago a few of the guys I fished with tried a wooden, jointed, kids, toy snake rigged with hooks. I thought it was crazy. It clicked and splashed but I saw a huge bass destroy it. It gave us a great big laugh and a good story.
It looked kind of like this but the tail was fatter.
In every neck of the woods I've been in any snake under 20" or so is bass food. Bass eat snakes pretty regularly Doug Hannon's snake works for some folks - I tried them once or twice but they were a bit more work than delongs and big mommas which are pretty snaky and at times they are deadly but the frog usually beats them.
I used to fish the Snatrix worms pretty often and did well with them along with the Mann's Augertail snake and Hardnose snake. They all work but I doubt the bass sees them and thinks they're going to eat a snake. Probably just looks like any other worm to them.
Lucky Craft makes a 10" snake swimbait that seems to have kind of a cult following.
On 8/19/2014 at 1:33 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I used to fish the Snatrix worms pretty often and did well with them along with the Mann's Augertail snake and Hardnose snake. They all work but I doubt the bass sees them and thinks they're going to eat a snake. Probably just looks like any other worm to them.
Lucky Craft makes a 10" snake swimbait that seems to have kind of a cult following.
Does the lucky craft one float?
Nm. Just saw that it's $60. lol. And if looks like a lure more than a snake.
if you;re gonna go the snake route then maybe id try using megabass
We have a pond in our yard and I've witnessed a water snake get smashed by a bass, so yes a lure imitating a snake will work.
I don't have it with me at the moment but I have a really old hook with a spoon looking thing on it and you retrieve it on top of the water and it makes your worm go side to side like a snake PERFECTLY it is great in shallow water when bass are active.
12" Mann's jelly worm Nuff' said
Yeah I couldn't get so much as a surly look with these last night. Tried a full size lunk3rhunt frog and nothing as well though so it could have been poor timing.
The action honestly looked really good but one thing strikes me as not such a good idea... Head shape of these snakes. There's two main shapes for snake heads profile-wise- there's a tiny head that's in line w body size ie corn snakes and garters which are harmless. Then there are the arrowhead shaped big headed snakes- vipers, rattlesnakes etc which are venomous.
Why these have big fat arrowhead viper-like head profile is beyond me. Common sense and natural risk assessment of a bass would almost absolutely dictate that to be a venomous snake if they see the profile. Not sure if it would make a difference but why?? So it floats? No idea really but just just seems counterproductive when designing something that's supposed to look like an easy meal IMO.
On 8/19/2014 at 7:55 PM, Catch and Grease said:We have a pond in our yard and I've witnessed a water snake get smashed by a bass, so yes a lure imitating a snake will work.
I don't have it with me at the moment but I have a really old hook with a spoon looking thing on it and you retrieve it on top of the water and it makes your worm go side to side like a snake PERFECTLY it is great in shallow water when bass are active.
12" Mann's jelly worm Nuff' said
Does the Manns float?
On 8/19/2014 at 10:07 PM, tcbass said:Does the Manns float?
Yes it sort of floats, but the weight of the hook will make it sink slowly when used weightless, it can be retrieved on top of the water pretty slow.
If you texas rig it weightless cast it out there and retrieve it with a walking the dog popping motion and it will dart and wiggle like a snake!
On 8/19/2014 at 7:55 PM, Catch and Grease said:We have a pond in our yard and I've witnessed a water snake get smashed by a bass, so yes a lure imitating a snake will work.
I don't have it with me at the moment but I have a really old hook with a spoon looking thing on it and you retrieve it on top of the water and it makes your worm go side to side like a snake PERFECTLY it is great in shallow water when bass are active.
12" Mann's jelly worm Nuff' said
Like the spoon on a jitterbug? That’d be awesome!. Could you upload a pic of that hook?
On 8/20/2014 at 12:17 AM, Catch and Grease said:Yes it sort of floats, but the weight of the hook will make it sink slowly when used weightless, it can be retrieved on top of the water pretty slow.
If you texas rig it weightless cast it out there and retrieve it with a walking the dog popping motion and it will dart and wiggle like a snake!
It “floats” only in that the tail stands up like a shakie head, but with just a nose hook/t-rig. It sinks like any other worm tho. Kinda dives and hops bottom really well.
I have the orginal "snake bait" but never tried it. There old but still look good. I have fished the 10" & 12" culprit worms weightless topwater. I have other floating worms too. I guess I need to get into more plastics?
On 10/14/2017 at 11:37 AM, bigbill said:I have the orginal "snake bait" but never tried it. There old but still look good. I have fished the 10" & 12" culprit worms weightless topwater. I have other floating worms too. I guess I need to get into more plastics?
Need is relative, but yes. Lol finesse plastics are cheap and work when power fishing might not be. Jelly worms are almost a secret these days, but they’ve been around forever. Still the best IMO Those culprits are great tho too.
Fyi for all, try folding up a 12” jelly worm wrap with a rubber band and boil 15-20 sec and let cool. It retains the kinks and resembles/moves as a snake much convincingly.
On 8/19/2014 at 10:07 PM, tcbass said:Does the Manns float?
To an extent yes they float. I have a pack of 12" Mann's Jelly Worms and weightless they will float, not necessarily topwater bait float, but they will float. Really depends on your retrieve in my experience.
To me those are just gimmicks.
Its the "new and different" that sucks folks in.
When I want to throw a large moving plastic through the grass, 'll use a Rage Recon, or Culprit Fat Max ribbon tail. But Certainly not because it looks like a snake so it has to be good.
Just my opinion
Mike
On 10/14/2017 at 10:27 AM, Jvanda1 said:Like the spoon on a jitterbug? That’d be awesome!. Could you upload a pic of that hook?
You've kinda resurrected an old thread here, so not so sure you'll get a reply to your question.
He may be talking about these Wobblehead lures. They used to sell these at our local Bass Pro, but no longer carry them. These create a great action with straight tail worms like a trick worm. I've caught some good fish with them. They don't have the sharpest hooks tho, unless they've upgraded them in the past few yrs. Looks like you can still order them thru their website.
http://www.wobbleheadlures.com/
I found these a few weeks ago on TW. They look interesting as well. The head kinda has a "jitterbug" shape. Looks like you just screw a straight tail worm onto it. Could potentially create a nice topwater action. Kind of expensive, so I'm reluctant to pull the trigger in case it's more gimmick than a true fish catcher. They're made by Lake Fork Tackle.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lake_Fork_Tackle_Hissy_Fit/descpage-LFTHF.html
Try not to get caught up in all this.
Anything that shakes, wiggles, wobbles or sashay's will catch a fish, be it plastic or hard bait.
There are hundreds of different artificial lures we could buy that are proven to work by anglers of every age and skill level.
My comment is to get proficient with what you know and works in your waters.
Good Luck
Mike
On 10/14/2017 at 7:05 PM, Mike L said:To me those are just gimmicks.
Its the "new and different" that sucks folks in.
When I want to throw a large moving plastic through the grass, 'll use a Rage Recon, or Culprit Fat Max ribbon tail. But Certainly not because it looks like a snake so it has to be good.
Just my opinion
Mike
What jelly worms? They’re one of the first worms ever made. Been around like 50 years.
On 10/14/2017 at 9:02 PM, wdp said:You've kinda resurrected an old thread here, so not so sure you'll get a reply to your question.
He may be talking about these Wobblehead lures. They used to sell these at our local Bass Pro, but no longer carry them. These create a great action with straight tail worms like a trick worm. I've caught some good fish with them. They don't have the sharpest hooks tho, unless they've upgraded them in the past few yrs. Looks like you can still order them thru their website.
http://www.wobbleheadlures.com/
I found these a few weeks ago on TW. They look interesting as well. The head kinda has a "jitterbug" shape. Looks like you just screw a straight tail worm onto it. Could potentially create a nice topwater action. Kind of expensive, so I'm reluctant to pull the trigger in case it's more gimmick than a true fish catcher. They're made by Lake Fork Tackle.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lake_Fork_Tackle_Hissy_Fit/descpage-LFTHF.html
Interesting. Thx.
The LFG one I saw before. Tempting but I had the same price concerns. You could just retrofit a jitterbug or by jitterbug blades and stick a hook through the eyelet for a cheaper alternative, I was thinking.
On 10/14/2017 at 9:40 PM, Mike L said:Try not to get caught up in all this.
Anything that shakes, wiggles, wobbles or sashay's will catch a fish, be it plastic or hard bait.
There are hundreds of different artificial lures we could buy that are proven to work by anglers of every age and skill level.
My comment is to get proficient with what you know and works in your waters.
Good Luck
Mike
Too late! Lol maybe good advice but if your a bass fisherman it’s pretty much forgone...your hooked.
Dont get carried away like this threat kinda does, but I’d comment that finesse fishing is something everyone should have in their arsonal. I’d say 1-2 types of worm, a craw and a tube covers it well enough really
On 10/14/2017 at 10:43 PM, Jvanda1 said:What jelly worms? They’re one of the first worms ever made. Been around like 50 years.
Interesting. Thx.
Yeah I know about Jelly worms.
My point was to me the 2 I mentioned more closely resemble a snake.
Mike
I have two of the old Doug Hannon floating snake heads . They are made out of soft plastic or foam .Just thread it on your line like a bullet weight and then Texas rig any worm you want . I dont know how good they work , I have never tried one .
My mom n pop local tackle shop has a section with new older baits on clearance. I try to buy anything that looks interesting, like the orange spook. The only problem is once I find it works I can't replace it.
i have some old floating plastics that have trapped air bubbles so they float.
i owe you guys lots of pics.
On 10/14/2017 at 9:40 PM, Mike L said:Try not to get caught up in all this.
Anything that shakes, wiggles, wobbles or sashay's will catch a fish, be it plastic or hard bait.
There are hundreds of different artificial lures we could buy that are proven to work by anglers of every age and skill level.
My comment is to get proficient with what you know and works in your waters.
Good Luck
Mike
I'm not sure the Wobbleheads make the trick worm look like a snake. I guess if you retrieved it fast enough on the surface they would. The blade def makes the worm have a very "S" shaped swimming action.
I dunno. I've always done well with them slow rolling a foot or so under the surface. They work great over submerged/sparse grass. I always thought of them kind of like a shallow squarebill or small chatterbait, just a diff look/profile.
On 10/15/2017 at 1:17 AM, wdp said:I'm not sure the Wobbleheads make the trick worm look like a snake. I guess if you retrieved it fast enough on the surface they would. The blade def makes the worm have a very "S" shaped swimming action.
I dunno. I've always done well with them slow rolling a foot or so under the surface. They work great over submerged/sparse grass. I always thought of them kind of like a shallow squarebill or small chatterbait, just a diff look/profile.
Sounds snakelike to me. Not that it really matters. 2 ppl now, have said it works...
unsharp hooks are kinda a deal breaker for me tho. Might try making my own. Looks simple enough.
On 10/15/2017 at 1:26 AM, Jvanda1 said:Sounds snakelike to me. Not that it really matters. 2 ppl now, have said it works...
unsharp hooks are kinda a deal breaker for me tho. Might try making my own. Looks simple enough.
Yeah, the hooks on them are my only complaint. But they def catch fish. I've been using some ZMan Elaztech worms on them recently. The Elaztech seems to stay on the bait keeper better & not wear out nearly as fast as a Zoom trick worm.
Guess I usually think of snake type lures as surface baits. Like I said, I always use em subsurface. Sometimes, they work well lifting em off bottom & letting em sink back down, almost like working a jig.
On 10/15/2017 at 1:41 AM, wdp said:Yeah, the hooks on them are my only complaint. But they def catch fish. I've been using some ZMan Elaztech worms on them recently. The Elaztech seems to stay on the bait keeper better & not wear out nearly as fast as a Zoom trick worm.
Guess I usually think of snake type lures as surface baits. Like I said, I always use em subsurface. Sometimes, they work well lifting em off bottom & letting em sink back down, almost like working a jig.
Have you checked our decoy cups? Seems like if you want subsurface S-action they’d do about the same thing, for much cheaper. Really easy to make from regular suction cups actually.
A little off topic but I thought of this before . I assume a person could take a foam earplug or two , thread a line through it and it should float a worm to make your own floating snakes .
On 10/15/2017 at 5:13 AM, scaleface said:A little off topic but I thought of this before . I assume a person could take a foam earplug or two , thread a line through it and it should float a worm to make your own floating snakes .
Yea could do. Works with tubes!
Back in the '60's Arbogast made a snake lure called a "Weedler" if memory serves. Looked like a snake, but the rubber body was stiffer back then. I was fishing a river once and saw a bass jumping out of the water to eat a snake hanging off a low limb over the water. One minute the snake was there, the next...
Once I seen a real snake swimming across a small pond and a dozen strikes happened as it swam. It was fun to watch. The lucky snake did make it across.
I bought into those exact ones many, many years ago! Never caught a thing and ended up giving them to a kid at a local pond. Like stated above, a 10-12" plastic work works better.
You know, I think this is all just snake oil... ?