what's so special about Keitech? 2024
avidone1 reply :
I've been fishing for so many years that I tend not to get excited about the newest lure to end all lures.
But that doesn't mean I don't pay attention when something seems to have 'legs'.
Keitech baits seem to have an excellent and enduring reputation.
Please tell me what makes them so special as opposed to Yamamoto plastics, or zooms to name a few of my favorites.
Nathan Burton reply :
As far as their swimbaits go, they have superior action and flat out catch fish. One of my favorite soft swim baits in my tackle bag.
Raul reply :
You'll never know until you try.
fishballer06 reply :
Great colors
Great action
Great sizes
Great scent
Great packaging to keep baits safe
And fish eat them up.
iabass8 reply :
Most swimbaits will kick and come through the water well at a faster retrieve making them all seem alike. Where a Keitech shines is at slow speeds. Where the majority of soft swimbaits on the market tend to have little to no action (i.e the bait will not roll side to side and/or the tail will not wiggle) when fished at a very slow pace, the Keitechs will continue to kick and the body will roll side to side even at the slowest of speeds. It takes very little to impart action on the bait. That is what sets them apart from pretty much everything on the market.
Mosster47 reply :
Nothing now, but they came up with a great design. The BPS Speed Shads and the knock offs Kicker Fish make all fish the same at the same speeds. I'm sure there are more companies that make great knock offs now too.
If you're not into the reality of one or two bites per thousand casts that comes with fishing the big swimbaits the Keitech style allows you to fish in a similar way with a lot more production as well as some other techniques.
One bait I think Keitech has done a great job with that doesn't have an equal to is the Noisy Flapper. That thing has a monster profile and a ton of action. I love fishing it.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
They are the mainstream now ,,as.was creme and.manns back in the day..lizards,all lures peak at some point its all about who is around 40 yrs later and still catching fish thtas not to say that lures that are no longer made aint any good either .ppl change businesses go bankrupt etc .
Ktho reply :
They are extremely thoughtfully crafted imo, much more so than the knockoffs or other brands. That's why I like Japanese product, they have a much more thoughtful and artful approach to everything they do. The baits have a channel on the bottom and top for EWG hooks and little spots for nail weights. The scent is strong and packaging is great, there's a lot to like about them. The body stays mostly still while the tail kicks even when being move slowly. Now none of that would matter if they didn't get bit, but they do they get bit really well. Keitech has quickly become my favorite new company that I've tried in the past 1+ year. The Crazy Flapper, Mad Wag and Live Impact are also really killer baits that don't get much attention.
Dye99 reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 5:29 AM, Nathan Burton said:As far as their swimbaits go, they have superior action and flat out catch fish. One of my favorite soft swim baits in my tackle bag.
Yup. Pretty much...Impact fat swim baits work well for me on their own, or as trailers. Great bait!
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 9:19 AM, Dye99 said:Yup. Pretty much...Impact fat swim baits work well for me on their own, or as trailers. Great bait!
No offense but i dont think fish care about superior food they focus on the weak injured food before they try to eat a cocky minnow,,i may be wrong but thats my 2 cents
Dye99 reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 9:31 AM, Maxximus Redneckus said:No offense but i dont think fish care about superior food they focus on the weak injured food before they try to eat a cocky minnow,,i may be wrong but thats my 2 cents
None taken. Seems to me it isn't the fish that is care about the plastic minnow different fishermen use as much as you.
So what does a person gain, by telling others that what they have found effective wrong?
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Not wrong by any means ..if your catching thats what counts. I have crankbaits that are over 15 yrs old they used to have superiorer colors finishes .the more beat up and inferior they got the more fish they caught
Dye99 reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 10:13 AM, Maxximus Redneckus said:Not wrong by any means ..if your catching thats what counts. I have crankbaits that are over 15 yrs old they used to have superiorer colors finishes .the more beat up and inferior they got the more fish they caught
I agree!
I think the reason why keitech is good, is because they have stayed around and have maintained a product that hasn't gotten worse with age, with so many great tackle companies that haven't!
Many of the new lures are just junk....Hence why I buy three at once to get the one that swims as advertised. They definitely don't make em like they used to.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 4:56 AM, avidone1 said:I've been fishing for so many years that I tend not to get excited about the newest lure to end all lures.
But that doesn't mean I don't pay attention when something seems to have 'legs'.
Keitech baits seem to have an excellent and enduring reputation.
Please tell me what makes them so special as opposed to Yamamoto plastics, or zooms to name a few of my favorites.
Over 10 years fishing yamamoto plastics(senko 3-4-5-6", ikas, swimkos, flappin hog) biggest fish 4#
3 months fishing Keitech Swing Impact Fat 6+#
Keitech has consistently caught me more fish in a day and they avg bigger size as well.
3 of the 5 main lakes I fish the SIF has my PB numbers wise in a days outing.
I still really really like fat ikas and go to them when the Keitechs arent working but the Keitechs have proven themselves to me.
hawgenvy reply :
Tons of bites x good hook up ratio + versatility/weedlessness = Keitech swimbait awesomeness
Gundog reply :
Pretty much all the reasons stated above are why I fish Keitech swimbaits as much as possible. They catch fish, period.
everythingthatswims reply :
I've tried lots of other brands, and keitechs really stand out. I used to not fish paddle tail style swimbaits much at all, now I almost always have a swing impact fat or swing impact tied on to one of my rods!
Completely different action than any other swimbait I have used, it's more subdued and natural, great at all speeds, and is one of the few swimbaits that fishes really well completely weightless.
SDSOONER reply :
How would you recommend someone that is new to this bait, fish it ?
everythingthatswims reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 11:25 AM, SDSOONER said:How would you recommend someone that is new to this bait, fish it ?
The 4" swing impacts are good on a 1/16-1/8oz head, fished on light line with a spinning rod. You can also rig them weightless on a 1/0 EWG hook and they will swim really well at a CRAWL, I do this when fish are extremely skittish and spooking off of the "plop" from a senko or wacky worm, you can cover a lot of water with it and cast way past the fish you are targeting.
The 3.8" Fat and 4.8" fat are the others I have used. I like a 3/0 weightless screw loc hook for the 3.8s and a 4/0 for the larger ones. I would recommend at least 15lb test so you have the power to collapse that bait and hook the fish. When you land them make sure you grab them so they stop shaking, this will make the baits last for a few bites rather than 1 or 2 since they are so soft.
BaitMonkey1984 reply :
EZ Shiners on a keel weighted hook are a must for clear water applications. Great bait. Scent is squid which is different than any other scents. Not durable whatsoever but I subscribe to the camp I want to catch fish, and can care less if I am catching fish but my bait is getting chewed up.
hawgenvy reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 11:25 AM, SDSOONER said:How would you recommend someone that is new to this bait, fish it ?
My fav is to use the 4-8 Swing Impact Fat on a 4-0 screw-on belly weighted swimbait hook, 1/16 or 1/8 oz, with the point texposed in the top groove. Fish it fast, fish it slow, fish it real slow, twitch it or bring it in steady, yo-yo it, pause it or not, bring it along the bottom or on or just below the surface. Skip under docks or wiggle it through grass, toss to structure, toss to the depths, drop it between lily pads or cast to shore. Whatever works.
BassThumb reply :
The swimbaits are ultra soft, which makes them swim at an extremely slow speed, but also gives them poor durability.
All in all, they're great baits with a lot of hype surrounding them. It's pretty much a double whammy!
Hogsticker reply :
The Japanese take bait crafting rather serious and generally produce precision, highest quality stuff. Keitech baits are hand poured, yet have a consistent product you generally don't see with hand pours. Most of the other paddle tails from big name companies are injection molds, including knock offs. The hand pour gives the Keitechs a softer, more supple plastic. This allows them to keep moving at the slowest of speeds and retain more action throughout the retrieve and on the drop. Injection molds are harder, yet generally more durable. All that aside, they get bit so who really cares! I've tried enough to know nothing really compares and produces like Keitech.
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 6:04 AM, iabass8 said:Most swimbaits will kick and come through the water well at a faster retrieve making them all seem alike. Where a Keitech shines is at slow speeds. Where the majority of soft swimbaits on the market tend to have little to no action (i.e the bait will not roll side to side and/or the tail will not wiggle) when fished at a very slow pace, the Keitechs will continue to kick and the body will roll side to side even at the slowest of speeds. It takes very little to impart action on the bait. That is what sets them apart from pretty much everything on the market.
Yes, but that's not always a good thing. They are certainly good baits, but nothing that can't be substituted for. If I remember correctly, in the LMB world, the lure de jeuer has been everything form basstrix, roboworm, Yamamoto, paca, RI, and this other one that escapes me, but it was all the Rage. JDM is where the sheep are grazing right now, that,s all.
Allen Der reply :
is anyone using their other plastics besides the swimbaits? their stick bait and finesse worms look interesting
Choporoz reply :
A lot of retailers were discounting the Salty Core sticks last year and I bought a few packs. I tried them off and on with no success. However, just the other day, I got to thinking about them and did a little reading up. I'd fished them T-rigged and belly weighted hook rigged. By design, their key is supposedly the straight fall shimmy. I probably didn't bring that into play the way I fished them. So, I'll try them wacky and weightless before I write them off again. I also tried the Flappers, on a shaky head IIRC, but didn't get any action so buried those in my bag, also. Maybe I'll try flipping them this spring.
Their swimbaits will always have a place in my bag, however. Aside from traditional swimming as described above (LOVE the slow speed action), I also fish the 3 inch Swing Impact on an Owner Finesse ball head much the same as I'd fish a Ned rig. That tail flaps even when its just sitting there on the bottom.
everythingthatswims reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 8:12 PM, reason said:Yes, but that's not always a good thing. They are certainly good baits, but nothing that can't be substituted for. If I remember correctly, in the LMB world, the lure de jeuer has been everything form basstrix, roboworm, Yamamoto, paca, RI, and this other one that escapes me, but it was all the Rage. JDM is where the sheep are grazing right now, that,s all.
All of those still have a ton of hype and still set themselves apart from the rest because they are quality bait. If you know a substitute for a keitech swing impact and/or swing impact fat I would love to know about it.
roadwarrior reply :
On 4/27/2016 at 1:26 AM, everythingthatswims said:All of those still have a ton of hype and still set themselves apart from the rest because they are quality bait. If you know a substitute for a keitech swing impact and/or swing impact fat I would love to know about it.
We will have an alternative from Rage Tail shortly.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 8:44 PM, Allen Der said:is anyone using their other plastics besides the swimbaits? their stick bait and finesse worms look interesting
I used their salty core tubes a couple years before trying the swimbaits. The tube is solid like a Fat Ika or Damiki Hydra but more firm not as squishy. I rig it backwards too like I do the others. Sticks Ive used 4.5" & 5.5"wacky with good results but if had to choose, a senko would be my 1st choice.
ibobpeb reply :
To be honest it's not that special. I think it catches fishermen more than fish. I own all the Keitech products and I have cheaper plastics that catch more and bigger fish.
That said, Keitech lure's design is superb and action is great but for some reason I still have more production using other brands.
Last summer I was sight fishing and there were a few hogs cruising around weeds. I drop shotted, swimmed, and t-rigged some fat impacts right in their face and none would take. Then I threw a cheap Luck-e-strike minnow, ($3 for a pack of 20) and bam caught 2 bass back to back in the same spot. I no longer buy into the hype.
I do like Keitech products but it's just not that special to me.
J Francho reply :
I stopped using them, shaved my beard, and let my fade grow out WAYYY before it was cool. I'm on to other things now - they'll be cool in a bit.
Kidding - I use them because they work. There was nothing as good when they came out. I use a few other baits from them - they are all quality. Still have a few boxes of old spiders that you can have - if you can pry them from my cold, dead hands!
Choporoz reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 9:17 PM, Choporoz said:A lot of retailers were discounting the Salty Core sticks last year and I bought a few packs. I tried them off and on with no success. However, just the other day, I got to thinking about them and did a little reading up. I'd fished them T-rigged and belly weighted hook rigged. By design, their key is supposedly the straight fall shimmy. I probably didn't bring that into play the way I fished them. So, I'll try them wacky and weightless before I write them off again.......
Makes you want to go out and throw one right now, doesn't it?
Nice_Bass reply :
eh...I think there are better brands out there based on action/design, durability, and price. (in that order) I just think the reason that you hear more about them now...is more people use them now.
jbrew73 reply :
On 4/26/2016 at 4:56 AM, avidone1 said:I've been fishing for so many years that I tend not to get excited about the newest lure to end all lures.
But that doesn't mean I don't pay attention when something seems to have 'legs'.
Keitech baits seem to have an excellent and enduring reputation.
Please tell me what makes them so special as opposed to Yamamoto plastics, or zooms to name a few of my favorites.
what makes them special?. nothing.. they are just another variation of a soft plastic lure.
iabass8 reply :
Mosster47 reply :
On 4/27/2016 at 1:26 AM, everythingthatswims said:All of those still have a ton of hype and still set themselves apart from the rest because they are quality bait. If you know a substitute for a keitech swing impact and/or swing impact fat I would love to know about it.
Kalin Seizmic Shad, Kicker Fish Tail Slapper, and BPS Speed Shads are the exact same bait as the Keitechs.
I fish the Speed Shads mainly now because they are the only one I have found that makes a 6" model. I have all four brand's 4.8" in a bag and I have no clue which one is which and neither do the fish. If you do your job they will do theirs regardless of packaging.
Hogsticker reply :
They aren't the same fellas. Same design, different plastic, different molding process. If you're catching more fish on a certain variation it's because you have it tied to the end of your line more often.
J Francho reply :
On 4/29/2016 at 1:46 PM, Hogsticker said:If you're catching more fish on a certain variation it's because you have it tied to the end of your line more often.
Oh, logic! This is a good point. And to add, what you use most frequently, you have the best "feel" for what the bait is and isn't doing.
primetime reply :
Marketing and threads like this make them special. Plus paddle tail grubs work really good.
J Francho reply :
Funny, because when they came out there was pretty much no marketing, and zero mention on the internet of them.
(No one wanted to say it on the web, lol)
FrogFreak reply :
They don't work and no one should use them.......just give your unused Keitechs to me and I'll dispose of them for you for no fee.
YoTone reply :
a few weeks ago i decided to try it out but put it on my chatterbait. next thing i know im reeling in what i think was a monster largemouth but turned out to be a striped bass.
primetime reply :
On 4/30/2016 at 2:11 AM, J Francho said:Funny, because when they came out there was pretty much no marketing, and zero mention on the internet of them.
(No one wanted to say it on the web, lol)
Great Point. Now that I think about it they never really advertised. I guess that is how you know it truly is a great bait..Plus every company has made a copy which proves it is a good bait. Nobody has been able to duplicate the consistency and texture of the Original's, yet all cost pretty much the same if not more.
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