I'm enjoying the recent "Ideal bladed-jig" thread. Love those nuances.
So not to muck up that thread, I thought I'd start a new one:
What trailers do you like on your B-J's? And why... What makes a difference?
I just have a skirt on mine.
My main 3 are magnum rage bug, Berkley grass pig, and yum dinger. In that order I fish them from the top of the water column to the bottom. They are also some of my favorite baits to fish not on a bladed jig so when the head gets torn up beyond repair its nice to be able to trim them down a bit and toss them on a bladed jig. Trick worm and yum craw chunk are honorable mention for 4 and 5
I think you’ll get a lot of suggestions for the Zako and Razor Shadz... both trailers were designed specifically for chatterbaits and I use them. However they have minimal action, so a lot of times I mix in an Ultravibe Speed Craw and get different results, sometimes better sometimes not. Have to experiment a little with how much tail kick the fish want...
If in doubt, start with the Razor Shadz... it’s Z-man product made with Elaz-Tech so one bag might last you all season.
I like something that will add some profile, bulk, and length, usually without much added action, but sometimes I'll throw a toad, creature or paddle tail on there. Depends on where I'm fishing, time of year, and conditions.
Fluke, Sk blade minnow, havoc subwoofer
So far I have only used a hand poured craw and a rage tail menace with one of the flappers missing. So basically I would guess I use whatever is laying on the floor of the boat
On 11/8/2018 at 12:38 AM, J Francho said:I just have a skirt on mine.
What??? I thought that I was the only one that ran them naked?
On 11/8/2018 at 12:38 AM, J Francho said:I just have a skirt on mine.
Back in the 80s, when the "Rubber-legged Jigs" hit the mainstream bass world, I found they worked great! And I didn't use any trailer at all. Blasphemy nowadays. It was a couple seasons before I added the "pig". (And I'm still nursing the last of the lot I've managed to collect up. )
I guess in a couple seasons I might just give the ol' naked jig a go again.
On 11/8/2018 at 12:38 AM, J Francho said:I just have a skirt on mine.
Great, now we gotta sit through another HR powerpoint training....
I recommend any ElazTech trailer. They hold up so much longer than anything else and pay for themselves. I've been using the Z-Man Diezel swim baits and love them. I use to use the Yamamoto Senko swim baits but I could barely catch two fish without having to replace the trailer. There are a lot of northern where I fish so I need it to hold up. I can go all day with one or two trailers with ElazTech.
im fond of the lake fork magic shad and the boot tail version of it.
they have that heavy garlic smell to them.
also like the reins rocket vibe. decent action but i like them more for their durability.
Berkley Havoc Pit Boss
Flukes and fluke style baits. That thin tail goes nuts from the vibration.
I have been catching them so well on the Razor Shad, I almost haven't used anything else in almost two years. I use the Zako once in a while.
I am not a fan of paddle tails on a chatterbait, but when I do want a paddle tail , I prefer a swim senko over a keitech. The swim senko (and less expensive swimming yum dinger) seem to want to "go with the flow" on the back of a chatterbait , where as a Keitech Fat impact almost tries to work against it.
I am also not a fan of kicking craw style trailers on chatterbaits either (but I DO like them on swim jigs)
My old "go-to" trailer was a simple curly tail grub, and it worked fine, but I have had better results since moving away from it.
The reason why the Razor Shad, and to a lesser extent, the Zako are my favorite types of trailers is they kind of DON'T do much. They just wiggle around back there as the blade dictates. I see them as adding bulk and a tiny bit of action, as that big vibrating blade in front is the main show, where as on a non bladed swim jig, it's almost ALWAYS about the trailer.
My chatterbait results went up when I STOPPED putting high action trailers on them.
The short answer, there is no wrong or right trailer for a bladed jig...
On 11/8/2018 at 7:06 AM, Mr Swim Jig said:The short answer, there is no wrong or right trailer for a bladed jig...
Yeah, that's what I'm gathering.
Thanks, all.
Pit boss or Menace rigged vertical instead of horizontal, a 3.8 or 4.8 keitech, Razor shad or Diesel minnow, or 2/3 of a 5" stick worm.
I like Zakos but the plain old Zoom Super Fluke has been my top producer. Pick something you like/have confidence in and roll with, probably can't go wrong.
Yum Christie Craw 90% of the time.....Razor Shad 10% or the time. Never found a need to experiment with other trailers, but next year I may look into those Zoom Flukes as a trailer I like the profile of that plastic in general .
On 11/8/2018 at 12:19 AM, Paul Roberts said:What trailers do you like on your B-J's? And why... What makes a difference?
Same thing I use on spinnerbaits & swim jigs!
Zoom's Fat Albert!
Why?
Everyone else aint! ????
95% of the time, White Rage Bug. On blue black chatterbait, Culprit Incrediclaw slim
On 11/8/2018 at 9:11 PM, Catt said:
Same thing I use on spinnerbaits & swim jigs!
Zoom's Fat Albert!
Why?
Everyone else aint! ????
Single or double tail?
On 11/8/2018 at 9:50 PM, FryDog62 said:Single or double tail?
Single ????
On 11/8/2018 at 9:11 PM, Catt said:
Same thing I use on spinnerbaits & swim jigs!
Zoom's Fat Albert!
Why?
Everyone else aint! ????
I use Zoom Fat Albert's and Flukes as my Bladed Jig trailers.
In warmer weather I like a Zoom Fat Albert. In the winter I use a Zoom Super Chunk, or a Super Chunk Jr.
This video from the Tactical Bassin' guys has some really good underwater clips of chatter baits with different trailers showing how they affect the bait movement. it's very informative even for the most experienced fisherman as it shows an angle we can't see while fishing. Enjoy...
https://www.tacticalbassin.com/blog/how-to-fish-a-chatterbait-beginner-tips-and-advanced-tricks
3.8" Keitech
Christie Craw
Double tail Fat Albert
I saw a video of an FLW pro recommend using a Zoom ultra vibe speed craw. I have not tried this yet as I don't throw bladed jigs very often. I normally use a super fluke when I do use them.
On 11/8/2018 at 6:48 AM, ww2farmer said:...my favorite types of trailers is they kind of DON'T do much. ... I see them as adding bulk and a tiny bit of action, as that big vibrating blade in front is the main show...
My chatterbait results went up when I STOPPED putting high action trailers on them.
OK... This is pretty much what I think I've been coming to too. Seems the blade's vibrations are mostly absorbed by the time it gets back to the trailer, and so I started cutting larger trailers back for shorter and shorter "tails", trying to maintain that "shimmy" or "tremor" all the way back. I haven't tried a curly-tail grub, which had been my standard SB trailer, since, forever. Doh!
"High action" trailers, esp the longer paddle-tails, appear to operate separately from, or even compete with, what's going on up front. I don't know what the fish think really, but I just haven't liked that look. I like the compactness of a bladed-jig: all that action packed into that compact space, if that makes any sense. Maybe my fish are just smaller than many others' are. Or... I'm just over-thinking this; That would not be new space for me.
So, I've been gravitating toward thinner, tapered-tailed trailers, like soft jerks and worms. I like that "tremor" going on back there. If the majority of the action is up front, I may just be happy leaving it at that.
I do hear you on the bulk that trailer's can add. This can be a big deal, at times, for the turbulent wake they throw, and to adjust buoyancy and speed. So... Hmmmm... maybe I'm looking for a trailer that's bulky and buoyant up front, with a slim tapered tail?? And that appears to describe the Razer Shad pretty well. Didn't someone... @FryDog62 ... say Zman designed them them for their Chatter? I actually have some, but I bought them just to see what they could do.
I sure love these nuances. Especially when its cold and snowy out there.
On 11/8/2018 at 12:38 AM, J Francho said:I just have a skirt on mine.
This is what I seemed to be trimming my way back to. The Chatters in my working boxes have either worm tails or just skirts.
I have been using the SK minnows that have segments like the Lake Fork shad.
Allen
I use Rage Swimmers, Rage Bugs, Rage Craws, Super Flukes and Razor Shadz. If one ain't working, I change them out til one does. ????
Surprised no one has said the swimming fluke or Strike King Swim n Shiner. Those are perfect on a bladed jig.
I used to use grubs and different craw trailers and I didn't catch as many big fish as I do today.
Thanks, all. I guess I'm going to keep playing around. Lotsa options out there.
I like all the baits people are recommending and am constantly switching it up. One bait that I received in the Mystery Tackle Box and actually like is the Bruiser Baits Evil Twin Trailer (https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Bruiser_Baits_Evil_Twin_Trailer_/descpage-BBET.html). It is a craw/grub style bait that has a unique action. Definitely something to check out.
Zoom makes a replacement chatterbait trailer with the short body and two long antinnas just like what comes standard on the z-man chatterbait
Lake Fork Live Magic Boot Tail Shad
On 11/13/2018 at 9:27 AM, RHuff said:Zoom makes a replacement chatterbait trailer with the short body and two long antinnas just like what comes standard on the z-man chatterbait
Thanks. Yeah, it's those long thin tails again. I think I see why Chatters come with them.
On 11/13/2018 at 10:02 AM, iceintheveins said:Lake Fork Live Magic Boot Tail Shad
Hey, ice! Guess it's been kinda dry out your way. Looks like that may change this winter with that El Nino setting up. Let's hope its not too much of a good thing. Stay warm, sir.
Zoom Finesse Worm cut down 1.25" OR cut a Zoom Trick Worm down 2.5" - multitude of colors ; inexpensive chatterbait trailer which works great as the chatterbait imparts all the action you need . The worm's bulbous tail catches water and twitches seductively back and forth at any speed - dip the tail in JJ's chartreuse for added effect . If you want to step up to a more expensive trailer then the Strike King KVD Blade Minnow is all you will ever need : http://www.strikeking.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=664:skltabs-hardbaits&Itemid=1063
I use two: a creature style (think Baby Brush Hawg) on my Greenpumpkin and Black jigs when bumping the bottom and a Fluke style on my White and Silver when fishing open water.
My all-time favorite is a simple twin tail Yamamoto grub. It doesn’t overpower the blade or take away from the vibration at slow or fast speeds. It works very well for super slow crawls. I’ve actually had fish pick them up when sitting on the bottom. Yet is also very effective when yo-yoing Aggressively. The dense Yamamoto plastic adds significant weight without grabbing much air on a cast like a minnow style plastic. This gives me a bait that I can throw a very long ways, but most importantly extremely accurately. When fishing a bluegill skirt I touch up the tales a little bit with a blue spike it As their tails usually have a light blue color in the water. Also use orange and red spike its but haven’t really noticed a big difference.
Honorable mention is the smallest zoom chunk. Don’t know if they even make a black twin tail Yamamoto- But I always have the zooms for jigs & theyve worked quite well paired w/a black skirt on the chatter bait.
Does anybody use something like a Net Baits Paca craw fixed vertically instead of horizontally?
On 11/16/2018 at 8:54 AM, HeyCoach said:Does anybody use something like a Net Baits Paca craw fixed vertically instead of horizontally?
I saw a video Gerald Swindle did. He used a Zoom Z Craw fixed vertically on a bladed jig. I haven't tried it but it should work.
SK Blade Minnow for me probably 95% of the time. Good profile, good action, good color choices to match any skirt color. The Bluegill color is like a chameleon, seems to match many different skirt colors perfectly. Comes through thick grass really well too since it's so streamlined. Lasts a long time too...I've gone multiple trips and dozens of fish on 1 trailer - It gets ripped up a little but it stays right on the hook without sliding down.
A Rage Bug rigged normally/horizontally is a good choice too, that probably accounts for all of the other 5% of the time for me. It really flaps like crazy behind a chatter and keeps it riding high in the water.
On 11/16/2018 at 8:54 AM, HeyCoach said:Does anybody use something like a Net Baits Paca craw fixed vertically instead of horizontally?
Yes. I have used "horizontal" baits "vertically' with decent results. Sky's the limit at times with rigging soft plastics. The only limit at times is the extent of ones imagination...
On 11/16/2018 at 10:15 AM, Logan S said:SK Blade Minnow for me probably 95% of the time. Good profile, good action, good color choices to match any skirt color. The Bluegill color is like a chameleon, seems to match many different skirt colors perfectly. Comes through thick grass really well too since it's so streamlined. Lasts a long time too...I've gone multiple trips and dozens of fish on 1 trailer - It gets ripped up a little but it stays right on the hook without sliding down.
A Rage Bug rigged normally/horizontally is a good choice too, that probably accounts for all of the other 5% of the time for me. It really flaps like crazy behind a chatter and keeps it riding high in the water.
What blade bait is that.
Allen
On 11/17/2018 at 6:22 AM, Munkin said:What blade bait is that.
Allen
It's a Jackall Break Blade
On 11/16/2018 at 8:54 AM, HeyCoach said:Does anybody use something like a Net Baits Paca craw fixed vertically instead of horizontally?
I use a Pitboss, Devil's Spear, and Menace like that a majority of the time.
On 11/17/2018 at 9:27 AM, Logan S said:It's a Jackall Break Blade
How is the action on those? I like the look of the blade attachment loop, it looks like it will allow a lot of movement but have little chance of binding.
On 11/17/2018 at 10:28 AM, fishwizzard said:How is the action on those? I like the look of the blade attachment loop, it looks like it will allow a lot of movement but have little chance of binding.
I like 'em enough to pay the insane prices and have them sent from Japan...If people think Jackhammers are expensive, don't go down the JDM bladed-jig rabbit hole! ????
I still use my own homemade replica of the old Phenix chatters the most, but variety is fun...They work well for me in specific situations. The action is essentially the same as OG ZMan chatters.
On 11/17/2018 at 10:35 AM, Logan S said:I like 'em enough to pay the insane prices and have them sent from Japan...If people think Jackhammers are expensive, don't go down the JDM bladed-jig rabbit hole! ????
Hah, I found the Brake Blades for like $10 before shipping, which is what got my interest up. I am mostly using Seibert Foggys (lot of thump, erratic at high speed) and Shock Blades (more of a tight wiggle) and they seem to work differently enough that I want to try a few more variations to see how they produce.
I use Zoom Supers as trailers on both as the tail has a nice wiggle and they basically last forever unless a pickerel takes a swipe at one. I
On 11/16/2018 at 10:15 AM, Logan S said:SK Blade Minnow for me probably 95% of the time. Good profile, good action, good color choices to match any skirt color. The Bluegill color is like a chameleon, seems to match many different skirt colors perfectly. Comes through thick grass really well too since it's so streamlined. Lasts a long time too...I've gone multiple trips and dozens of fish on 1 trailer - It gets ripped up a little but it stays right on the hook without sliding down.
A Rage Bug rigged normally/horizontally is a good choice too, that probably accounts for all of the other 5% of the time for me. It really flaps like crazy behind a chatter and keeps it riding high in the water.
Ooooh! I like that.
Rage Menace works great.