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roadwarrior reply :

My main pond has become a disaster zone. The region is more than 12" of rain below average. In addition to being low, the banks are a blanket of snot grass (spiragyra). Slug-Go and frogs are about the only lures that can be fished right now, or so I thought...

I rediscovered a bait today. Soft plastics have always been great producers on this pond, but right now it's nearly impossible to get through the gunk and if your lure makes it to the bottom, that's worse! I tried swimming a jig, but that was a mess. That's when the light went on and it dawned on me that I might have just the right bait: Something that can be worked through the weeds; can be fished with a steady retrieve and an occasional twitch; will not sink quickly to the bottom and has "presence."

My rediscovered Magic Lure is the Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits KREATURE.

I have always fished this bait with a bead and weight, sometimes in grass, but deep. Today I fished it on the edge of the scum, though the grass and maneuvered around clumps. I fish most soft plastics slow, very slow, but with the Kreature today I fished it like a swimming jig in the upper water column. I rigged it the same as a Fat Ika, tentacles forward on a X-Point #4/0 EWG Offset Worm Hook, weightless and weedless.

This is the BOMB!

However, the bite is not your normal tap-tap, it's WHAM-BAM-THANK-YOU-MAM! Today's bite was the most aggressive I have had on any lure. After an incredible morning session, I changed rods and went back for more this afternoon. This time I opted for a different rod with Moderate Action as opposed to my regular soft plastics rig (medium power/ fast action). I needed some cushion! 8-)

Give it a try, but pay attention so you don't have your rod ripped out of your hands or your arm broken.

Good luck!

Bud reply :

RW I have been fishing them for 3 weeks now like that. The fish I posted about a couple days ago were all caught on them.

GY color # 330

roadwarrior reply :

I started out with 021 (black with blue flakes) and finished with 208 (watermelon with black & red flakes), but I don't think color played much of a role on this outing. Whenever I put this lure on fish, they struck...hard! The Kreature weighs a little more than a Senko, but it seems to be made out of the same plastic. It surprised me that this bait seems to be a little more durable than some of the other GYCB products. Maybe that was just the luck of the draw.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

man,...if it ain't workin',...rig it backwards! (RW's new bumper sticker)

Way to adapt buddy!

(perhaps they are more durable due to a manufacturing necessity?? I'm thinking with the little appendages, they may have had to use a finer salt or more hardener? )

brian_82 reply :

I love them too, i fish them on a football head around rocks at the reservoir.

moby bass reply :

So your pond isn't the only one filled with all that guck? Our local pond is a mess as well and the only, and I mean ONLY thing that works is soft plastic between the bank and the weedline, fished carefully in and out of the pockets. But they aren't big, not like last year. I've trying throwing stuff out beyond the weed line and pulling it carefully back and then hopping it or jerking it over the weeds to avoid the clog. I don't know whether the bass can't get back out to the deep, I imagine they can, or if they are staying in the shallows

because there are are ton of bluegill there. But nary a hit in the deeper water.

roadwarrior reply :

Moby bass,

I think you should give the outer edge a little more attention. Big bass often come in shallow to feed on baitfish, but they tend to patrol and stage in deeper water. Some of the bass I caught yesterday seemed to be in the gunk, but the bigger bass were caught on the ouside.

guest reply :

I have fished the Kinami Nories Bug like that. Same results. They want to kill it!

islandbass reply :

That's it. I'm going to buy some today. Should I be thanking you or the bait monkey? ;D

wickyman reply :

I agree. These things sound good. I want to pick up a pack. I have had a lot of luck with baby bass colors in the last month or so, but they are leaning towards the watermelon/red color now... I hope one of our local shops has them! Today would be a fantastic day to try it! Mostly overcast!

mattm reply :

RW,

Who makes a knockoff of that particular bait you were using? I'll try it then we can argue back and forth which one works better. Sorry...........couldn't resist.

roadwarrior reply :

I think the texture of the bait is important which is why I prefer GYCB products, but if that's not important to you, just about every brand offers a creature bait. The other creatures are not identical, but they are very similar. Maybe those will trigger the reaction bite, but with the GYCB Kreature, bass hold on. Sunday I had a 100% hook-up and landing ratio. On my morning trip I caught nine bass on one bait, later six on two. So, on average I was able to catch five bass per bait. (Two of the Kreatures were torn up, the third was thrown when the bass jumped).

captaininsaneo reply :

before I buy any, does the Kreature fall backwards like a Fat Ika?

roadwarrior reply :

No.

I am not recommending that you fish it like other soft plastics, either. Fish the Kreature like a spinnerbait, slow rolled with an occasional twitch.

captaininsaneo reply :

I understood as much, but was hoping that it did indeed fall backwards, even though I doubted it would.

captaininsaneo reply :

One more question... why rig it backwards? it seems that this would mess up the action.

roadwarrior reply :

You don't have to, in fact, when the top of one side wears out, I continue fishing the Kreature the other way around. I just think the action is more interesting with the skirt up. It's pushed back when you move the bait forward and flutters up when the lure falls. Plus, with the tentacles in front the trailing legs look like a double-tail grub with lots of enticing movement.

FishTank reply :

The kreature is one my favorite baits as well. I have had good luck T-Rigging it and using a stand up type jig like a spot remover or a football head.

SneakySnook reply :

WTG on finding what the fish want.

kybassangler reply :

Thanks Rw I just got my kreatures and you just answered my question about hook size. Awsome post.

justfishin reply :

Good job RW, of thinking outside of the box. What is the old saying " When in doubt, improvise ". Something else I will have to give a whirl.

kybassangler reply :

Can't wait to try it myself. Brushogs have always been a top producer where I fish maybe this will give a new push to get them big fish.

Tokyo Tony reply :

Kreatures are also my favorite creature bait. One thing I love about them other than all previously mentioned traits is the fact that they're the best skipping baits I've ever used. So easy to skip, and when doing so, they're much more subtle (less skip-skip-pop-skip, more pppffssshhhhhh.. if you know what I mean ;D), and you can really skip them FAR.

Del from philly reply :

RW, these guys love you!!.....the minute you mention the Kreature it is all of a sudden the bait everybody wants to use!

I love the kreature bait.....LOVE THE SLOW FALL, LOVE THE ACTION WHEN ITS STILL, LOVE THE SKIPPING, VERY DURABLE COmPARED TO OTHER GYCB,,,,,except the top arms get pulled off by tiny bass and panfish often....

easily my favorite creature/grub, plastic spider ect

i always fish thenm weightless though, just rig em exposed like a plastic worm and lift em up and let them fall

lately iv gotta say, these kreatures arent drawing the strikes they were. i gotta slow down fishing them i guess

tore it up in a pond with these about a week ago

S I G M A reply :

that same thing happened where i live... texas rigged soft plastics did the trick for me

roadwarrior reply :

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RW, these guys love you!!.....the minute you mention the Kreature it is all of a sudden the bait everybody wants to use.

I deleted too much of your post.

I fish them like a spinnerbait, steady retrieve with an occasional twich. Weightless or not, this is "killer" for me!

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For those reading this thread for the first time, start on page 1.

McNasty reply :

Ive had alot of luck with the Kreature in the streams. I fish it really slow, T-rigged, bead, 1/8th oz bullet(I could probably go weightless). Ive found that any size LM wear it out but only the bigger SM will offer at it. Watermelon/red flake is my money color. I never thought of rigging it backwards, think I'll give it a try tommorrow. Later!

BirdNestBen reply :

Thanks RW so much for your post... this is a lure I've never fished with... look forward to trying it out....

There are a lot of perch in this pond and I've only caught small bass... but it just looks too fishy not to have a Lonestar Lunker in it....

I'll keep ya posted on my progress......

Micro reply :

I'm going to try that. The parts of my main lake I like the best have about 1-2 feet of relatively clear (if tea colored) water. Everything below that is thick algea. Getting anything into that algea results in a snot covered lure. I have to stay in that 1-2 foot strata or I won't catch fish. I fished GYCB swim senkos and Zoom 10" ribbon tailed worms (fished slowly like a swimbait) and was pretty successful. I had some creatures with me. I wish I had tried them now.

roadwarrior reply :

To stay in that narrow depth range, I would fish them weightless,

for sure. The action is similar, but the bait will float down rather

than sink quickly. You can definitely keep it out of the gunk most of the time.

8-)

rondef reply :

Good job Kent. I bought some of those creature baits and have yet to use them. I guess I now have a reason to break them out and use them to catch some lmbs.

By the way I am still looking at getting down to Tennessee sometime this year to visit my daughter in Memphis. I hope your offer to fish with you still stands when I finally make it down there.

fishfordollars reply :

Good job RW. The ability to adept has made a great day out of an awful day to the ones that have that ability.

congratulations!

roadwarrior reply :

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By the way I am still looking at getting down to Tennessee sometime this year to visit my daughter in Memphis. I hope your offer to fish with you still stands when I finally make it down there.

I'll take you the "secret pond".

8-)

MNGeorge reply :

Hey RW,

What is the minimum water temperature you would use this "swimming Kreature" presentation? Thanks.

Micro reply :

I tried this today. First I tried it weightless. I texposed rigged it with the frilly end forward so the arms and paddles trailed. No luck. Almost no action to speak of. The curly arms just lamely dragged along and didn't wave at all. If I reeled it fast enbough to get some arm action, it came to the surface. No surface hits.

Then I tried it with a pegged 1/8oz bullet weight. That kept the bait under, but still next to no arm action.

It looks to me that the body inhibits the arm action since they trail along side the body. The faster I reel, the harder they press against the side.

Not impressed with the kreature for this technique. Any advice on this, RW?

Next I tried a GYCB DT H Grub (root beer/green). Rigged frilly end forward with the 1/8 oz pegged bullet weight. MUCH better. The arms on this bait trail off the end and have action at any speed. I got one hit and one bass by a dock with this technique.

Good tip, RW. I just didn't have any luck with the Kreature, but the DT H Grub worked reasonably well. I'm looking forward to trying it again in the pads here shortly.

Big-O reply :

Look out for the Space Monkey!!!!!

Big O

www.ragetail.com

roadwarrior reply :

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I tried this today. First I tried it weightless. I texposed rigged it with the frilly end forward so the arms and paddles trailed. No luck. Almost no action to speak of. The curly arms just lamely dragged along and didn't wave at all. If I reeled it fast enbough to get some arm action, it came to the surface. No surface hits.
Then I tried it with a pegged 1/8oz bullet weight. That kept the bait under, but still next to no arm action.

It looks to me that the body inhibits the arm action since they trail along side the body. The faster I reel, the harder they press against the side.

Not impressed with the kreature for this technique. Any advice on this, RW?

Next I tried a GYCB DT H Grub (root beer/green). Rigged frilly end forward with the 1/8 oz pegged bullet weight. MUCH better. The arms on this bait trail off the end and have action at any speed. I got one hit and one bass by a dock with this technique.

Good tip, RW. I just didn't have any luck with the Kreature, but the DT H Grub worked reasonably well. I'm looking forward to trying it again in the pads here shortly.

Hmm...

You must be retrieving too fast. I had an average outing this morining on a pond that has been completely taken over by the snot grass. Six in three hours, four little tournament bass, 3-4 lbs, but two nice ones!

Davis reply :

Same thing with me Micro.

Almost like the arms were getting caught on the body.

Slow, fast, weightless....not a fan.

Like the Flappin Hog much more for a kreature type bait from GYCB.

roadwarrior reply :

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Same thing with me Micro.
Almost like the arms were getting caught on the body.

Slow, fast, weightless....not a fan.

Like the Flappin Hog much more for a kreature type bait from GYCB.

Pay attention:

Slow retrieve with an occasional twitch. The bait performs perfectly.

I fish the Flappin' Hog as a trailer or on a Shak-E2, but that is a completely different presentation.

8-)

wagn reply :

Been away at a cabin for a week, and on 2 of the 7 days i fished, the only action i got was on this kreature bait, or twin tailed grubs. I fished them weightless and twitched em in slowly. Neither the smallies or the bucketmouths could seem to resist it.

Another great bait to add to my arsenal

Micro reply :

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Pay attention:

Slow retrieve with an occasional twitch. The bait performs perfectly.

8-)

He said slow. So did I. I fished it the way you said. Perhaps I got a bum bag of creatures. But I got next to no action out of those arms. It was like dragging a wad of dark green toilet tissue though the water. The arms just trailed and did next to nothing. Only when I sped up the retrieve did they do anything, and then not by much.

I turned one around with the frilly end trailing and that was even worse - no action at all. The arms just seemed pinned to the sides and the ends seemed to be inhibited further by the paddles just below them.

The Hula did better. But even that didn't produce the action I had expected.

The_Natural reply :

Only RW can make a thread about a bait that becomes 5 pages...he's got some serious influence around these parts! I'd take that as a compliment

Btech reply :

It seemed to work for me Slowly the arms moved when jerked Vertically but not so much horizontal . Although rigt now is cold out so i am doing more Vertical work that Horizontal seems to get the best reaction ..

Still no fish this year though ... And 15 days in ... Im hurtin.

SuperNewbie reply :

... try flukes you cant really go wrong with flukes or the new gycb flappin hawg II

SkilletSizeBass. reply :

Roadwarrior, I followed a link to this previous post and have a question you might be able to help with. A local lake I fish has lots of bottom growing weeds, not the snot-grass type, but heavy in some areas. I've considered trying a floating worm with maybe a real small weight, to get the bait just under the surface, or in the upper part of the weeds, not in the thicker weeds on the bottom. Do you think this Kreature bait would work in this situation? This Kreature bait looks neat and nice and chunky.

roadwarrior reply :

Yes, that's the point: Texas-rigged and weedless. The Kreature is

a perfect substitute for a swimming jig and doesn't have an exposed

hook!

8-)

SkilletSizeBass. reply :

Thanks Roadwarrior, I'll order me a couple of them and try it out this spring.

catchnm reply :

Got a good deal a while back on Ebay for some of these GYCB Kreatures. Wound up with two bags each of the Black/Blue, Watermelon Seed, and the Pumpkin Seed colors. I always have fished them weightless, tentacles back, and slow rolled or really SLOOOOW hop and drop. Never even thought about rigging them backwards and weighting them a bit and then slow rolling. Will be doing this next time I'm out though. My honey hole has grass just like what has been described, up from the bottom and reaching to just under the surface. Good edges to this stuff too. Best bait has been the Baby Brush Hogs. Rage Tail Baby and full size Craws too. Thanks for a good tip guys.

BTW - On the Kreatures, I dip the bottom half of the tentacles on the Pumpkin Seed ones in the chartreuse Spike-It.........it's killer!

kikstand454 reply :

not to in anyway hijack this post....

but in that situation that alot of you are saying your in.... why arent you throwing a lightly weighted paddle tail? i mean... thats what i would do.

imma check out these creatures though... i think i have a little spot that they would work great at!

Tallent88 reply :

I love zoom baby brush hogs when they don't bite anything else its great! fish it slow, fast or with a shakey head great product last way longer than gyb, but they still seem to hold on too it until you set the hook I prefer baby over the regular brush hog becouse when they wont bite its just seems to be the perfect snack size!

brushhoggin reply : :stupid:

Fat-G reply :

If I could "plus 50" I would brushhoggin.

Nicely done.

ncbass reply :

On 6/6/2007 at 3:57 AM, roadwarrior said:

No.

I am not recommending that you fish it like other soft plastics, either. Fish the Kreature like a spinnerbait, slow rolled with an occasional twitch.

Buy you some Mend-It plastic glue and fix them. I use it all the time to repair senkos. It is a little pricey but will fix many a senko to be fished again. I use it on all my plastic baits expecially paddletail swimbaits. A very good product IMHO and the manufacturer has fixed the problem of shelf life by now packaging it in glass bottles with a brush applicator. I get mine from ***.

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