Knots For Braid... 2024

NEjitterbugger reply :

I am new to fishing with braid and heard you can't use some knots (clinch for example) that would be used or mono.. Is that true?

What knots do you guys use?

Scott F reply :

Palomar.

Darren. reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:03 AM, Scott F said:
Palomar.

When I tried straight braid to hook (wacky style), I tied a snell, and it worked great...but palomar works best, IMO.

OkeechobeeAngler reply :

Palomar. Wet it before you pull it tight,

ww2farmer reply :

Palomar when tied direct, alberto to join it to a leader. I have never used it with any other knots so I don't know if they will slip or not.

NEjitterbugger reply :

If it isn't wetted what will happen, I just tied it to a jig without wetting it should I re-tie???

Darren. reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:41 AM, NEjitterbugger said:
If it isn't wetted what will happen, I just tied it to a jig without wetting it should I re-tie???

Well, with braid, you don't *really* need to wet it, but the "wet" helps cinch the knot down.

Wetting a knot (imo) is more important with Fluro, copoly, etc. You can pull a braid knot slowly. Too fast there's plenty of friction which = heat.

So wetting a knot helps with lubrication, and friction.

Hanover_Yakker reply :

Regarding braid, if you use a Palomar knot, consider tying a double Palomar. I've had a single Palomar come undone under a heavy load. A double Palomar has never failed me.

NEjitterbugger reply :

Just out of curiosity why doesn't a clinch knot work for braid.. (that's wht I have been told)

flyfisher reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:53 AM, Hanover_Yakker said:
Regarding braid, if you use a Palomar knot, consider tying a double Palomar. I've had a single Palomar come undone under a heavy load. A double Palomar has never failed me.

How heavy of a load, were you pulling in a whale? I have lifted pretty good size logs with braid without a palomar slipping

kylek reply :

I use a palomar knot for just about everything. I will be using the snell knot when using the straight shank flipping hook this year too.

Darren. reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:55 AM, NEjitterbugger said:
Just out of curiosity why doesn't a clinch knot work for braid.. (that's wht I have been told)

Well, if this makes sense, you want a knot that turns on itself like a palomar. A cinch knot, this sounds wrong, but is more of a straight line knot. It's just wraps around straight line, putting tag end thru the bottom loop doesn't really turn on itself in the same way a palomar does.

So the slickness of braid, causes slippage of such knots. Whereas braid that loops over itself doesn't.

And a double-palomar, while a much larger profile, is an extremely secure knot.

NEjitterbugger reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 10:00 AM, DarrenM said:

Well, if this makes sense, you want a knot that turns on itself like a palomar. A cinch knot, this sounds wrong, but is more of a straight line knot. It's just wraps around straight line, putting tag end thru the bottom loop doesn't really turn on itself in the same way a palomar does.

So the slickness of braid, causes slippage of such knots. Whereas braid that loops over itself doesn't.

And a double-palomar, while a much larger profile, is an extremely secure knot.

Thanks!

The Rooster reply :

I tied palomar knots with line directly to lures or hooks. Albright or Alberto when joining braid to fluoro leaders, and then speed knots with leaders to lures. I really liked the albright knot for its super slim profile to pass through line guides with ease. Now, I don't use braid anymore though. No real need.

MrSwimJig reply :

Palomar

ColdSVT reply :

braid to terminal = palamar

braid to leader = albright

I have dealt with tarpon up to 150lbs on both combos so I doubt I a bass will beat it.

however, with light braid go with a double palamar knot to terminal tackle without a leader

Felix77 reply :

Another vote for the Palomar.

SirSnookalot reply :

I use the improved clinch, 20# braid is my max inshore size, never give knot failure a thought. For a bit of added security I'll double wrap the loop on the knot when I'm targeting some hard pulling fish like amberjack or cobia, still with the same 20# line.

Hanover_Yakker reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:55 AM, flyfisher said:
How heavy of a load, were you pulling in a whale? I have lifted pretty good size logs with braid without a palomar slipping

Actually, I was fishing a small retention pond testing out a new color of a Ribbit and had just spooled up a new batch of 65lb PP braid (ie: it still had its coating on it) and tied a single palomar. The frog got crushed, and the bass buried itself under a thick grass mat. As I was reeling it in, the line went slack. When I got it back to shore, the knot had simply come undone. I had been using a single Palomar knot up to that point for over three years and never had one come undone.

Hey, if Dean Rojas of frogging fame swares by it as the only knot he uses on his frogs, that's good enough for me .

BrettD reply :

Palomar knot for everything except for flipping then I tie a snell knot on a straight shank hook. When I tie the palomar I go through the eye twice before making the the overhand knot.

roadwarrior reply :

I like playing with different knots. Structurally, many or even most fishing knots have
many similarities. Someone else can tell me if this one is REALLY new, but I think it
is something you will find interesting.

The Big O Knot is designed for braided or heavy fluorocarbon line. A primary goal is to
provide 100% security when Big O sets the hook! I promise you this, if tied properly the
knot will not break.

This is a variation of the Pitzen Knot: http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

The Big O Knot requires putting the tag end back through the eye of the hook one more
time, just as you would do with a Palomar Knot. Bring the loop you created up next to
the main line. Then wrap the tag end four times around the outside of the main line and
the two lines of the loop. Start the wrapping from the bottom (nearest the hook) and
work up. Finish the knot by threading the tag through the newly created top loop, moisten
and tighten.

J Francho reply :

Uni, Palomar, Snell all work for terminal connections. Line to line, Alberto, Uni to Uni, Triple Surgeon's work well.

PondBoss reply :

Modified snell for plastics, San Diego jam or "Jimmy Houston knot" for anything else.

jignfule reply :

I use a palomar, never had a problem.

johnD. reply :

4 or 5 turn uni knot ,snap it real good to tighten it up.

Diggy reply :

I love the trilene knot..I hardly waste any line on the tag end and its so easy to tie and cinch down

Teal reply :

Double palomar, berkely braid knot. Im just starting to use the snell knot for straight hooks ... havent really had a chance to test it yet.

Alberto for line to line.

RoachDad reply :

Kind of a trick question, or at least a trick answer. I only use palomar for tying on lures. I don't know why anyone uses anything else. I watched some of the videos by Glenn ( I think?) and he demonstrates different knots and said he uses some form of clinch. He does not say why.

The palomar is easy to tie and as far as I know it is the strongest. you have 2 lines going through the eye of the lure.

I use it for Spinnerbaits and everything.

And I also use it with braid.

backcast88 reply :

I use the San Diego Jam Knot. It doesn't matter if its mono, braid, or fluoro and have yet to have a knot fail.

fl_bass reply :

On 3/28/2013 at 9:54 PM, backcast88 said:
I use the San Diego Jam Knot. It doesn't matter if its mono, braid, or fluoro and have yet to have a knot fail.

X2 on the San Diego Jam. I dumped the palomar after I learned the SDJ I found it much easier to tie.

SoCalFisher reply :

Uni for everything, only knot you need to know and you can tie any kind of line and leaders.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

On Knot Wars head to head a, through the eye twice UNI knot, beat the Palomar knot.

In my use this uni knot is stronger than a double palomar with my 6# Nanofil. Uni breaks a touch over 9 pounds and the dbl pal breaks at 6 1/2 pounds.

I.rar reply :

_{albright or alberto for joining mainline to leaders and palomar to baits. never fished with straight braid before...}

Jig Man reply :

I only use one knot for all lines to baits... THE PITZEN.

solo_bro reply :

i believe its called a san diego double jam 100% holding strength, beat the palomar knot. I use it for everything basically. Here you have ole Shaw Grigsby tieing it.

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/honest-angler/2012/11/how-tie-best-knot-fluorocarbon-0?cmpid=obinsite

BassThumb reply :

I prefer the Double Palomar for braided line.

Felix77 reply :

On 3/26/2013 at 9:33 PM, J Francho said:
Uni, Palomar, Snell all work for terminal connections. Line to line, Alberto, Uni to Uni, Triple Surgeon's work well.

X2 on all these except the triple surgeon.

OkobojiEagle reply :

I don't clip the PE tag end close to the knot... no need too. Leave 3/8 inch to accommodate any line slip within the knot.

I'm OK with a terminal knot that will break at 95% instead of 100% of line strength. I'll leave less behind when I need to break off.

fishingman88 reply :

Palomar

fishking247 reply :

palomar. the only knot i will use.

A-Rob reply :

San Diego Jam knot will work on mono, flouro, and braid.

Just alter the amount of wraps for the line

ie maybe about 3 for heavy flouro/mono, maybe 4-5 for a lighter mono/flouro, maybe 8 for braid

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