Is it worth getting a Tatula over the Lexa? I have a Tatula and love it, but am really looking into a Lexa. The Lexa is just smaller and easier to palm, but also for some reason a little heavier (which I don't really care about).
Well, I've got a Lexa 100 and love the size. The one reason I didn't look at a Tatula early on was the picture comparison I saw over at TT forums. The Tatula was huge by comparison. However, i still want to get my hands on one at BPS to more accurately tell the difference. Photo perspective doesn't always prove true-to-life.
For me, Yes.
I have both. They both feel about the same for me in my hand weight wise.
The biggest difference I feel between the two is the break. They are both mag breaks, but of different one. With Lexa, I feel the break is always on and does not increase the break as much at the top speed. It's kind of static. Tatula's break appears to be more dynamic.
If I'm looking for something I want to cast far, I go with Tatula. If I don't care that, say like froggin, and want to save some $$$ at the same time, then Lexa. But for me, if I need one more reel, I'll just go with Tatula and go fishing.
On 1/10/2014 at 3:51 AM, Loop_Dad said:For me, Yes.
I have both. They both feel about the same for me in my hand weight wise.
The biggest difference I feel between the two is the break. They are both mag breaks, but of different one. With Lexa, I feel the break is always on and does not increase the break as much at the top speed. It's kind of static. Tatula's break appears to be more dynamic.
If I'm looking for something I want to cast far, I go with Tatula. If I don't care that, say like froggin, and want to save some $$$ at the same time, then Lexa. But for me, if I need one more reel, I'll just go with Tatula and go fishing.
Is the size that dramatic? I've got relatively smaller hands, so curious (until i can hands-on for myself).
On 1/10/2014 at 3:56 AM, DarrenM said:Is the size that dramatic? I've got relatively smaller hands, so curious (until i can hands-on for myself).
I wouldn't call it dramatic. But I have big hands, so you might feel different. Looking at the reel from the top, left corner where it hits my palm is more square with Tatula. And the front size is wider with Tatula, but that doesn't mean much for palming.
I don't see why you would choose the Lexa over the Tatula. Tatula has the new innovation from Diawa like the TWS and air rotation. Tatula tested at 16 lbs max drag vs 6.8 on the Lexa. I had the Lexa and didn't find it anything interesting. A good reel but not a great reel. Haven't tried the Tatula yet but reviews and specs seems to favor the Tatula. The one thing I will say I like about the Lexa is I do love how it palms in my hand.
On 1/10/2014 at 8:37 AM, aprw1 said:Sorry for the glare... From top left going clockwise: Curado 101d, tatula 100pl, lexa 100hsl (pictures are mirrored so they appear as righty's)
I measured, and the lexa and tatula are basically identical in length from tip of thumbar to tip of the top of frame. The width of the tatula is slightly more in the back part, and towards the front the tatula is a bit more wider than the lexa. If you pair the tatula with a rod with a slim grip part or area around reel seat, you won't even notice the side.
Nice comparison. Different perspective than I saw elsewhere that made the Tatula look ginormous next to the Lexa.
go with the tatula...Ive had both and wasnt a fan of the lexa compared to the Tat..
The tat is a really solid reel for the money and I think it will be pushing the Lexa out of the market
I'd get the tatula out of the two since they both can be found around the same price. The tatula has magforce z which is a better breaking system then the lexa's standard magforce breaking system which is still a good breaking system but its better at heavier lures. On top of having the better breaking system the tatula has the t-wing system which is a great thing to have, daiwa doesn't hype the t-wing it really does help with casting.
The only thing I see the lexa 100 having over the tatula is a more luxurious look since the drag star and button you press to cast is made out of metal vs those being plastic on the tatula.
On 1/10/2014 at 8:37 AM, aprw1 said:Sorry for the glare... From top left going clockwise: Curado 101d, tatula 100pl, lexa 100hsl (pictures are mirrored so they appear as righty's)
I measured, and the lexa and tatula are basically identical in length from tip of thumbar to tip of the top of frame. The width of the tatula is slightly more in the back part, and towards the front the tatula is a bit more wider than the lexa. If you pair the tatula with a rod with a slim grip part or area around reel seat, you won't even notice the side.
So which do you prefer? The Tatula or Lexa? I still would think the Lexa is more comfortable to palm... I'm trying to get rid of my Pro Qualifier for most likely a Lexa
On 1/10/2014 at 9:50 AM, killula said:I'd get the tatula out of the two since they both can be found around the same price. The tatula has magforce z which is a better breaking system then the lexa's standard magforce breaking system which is still a good breaking system but its better at heavier lures. On top of having the better breaking system the tatula has the t-wing system which is a great thing to have, daiwa doesn't hype the t-wing it really does help with casting.
The only thing I see the lexa 100 having over the tatula is a more luxurious look since the drag star and button you press to cast is made out of metal vs those being plastic on the tatula.
Where can I find them for the same price? And what price?
On 1/10/2014 at 9:52 AM, LivewellHero said:Where can I find them for the same price? And what price?
I just did a quick search on ebay, and that's where you can find a Tatula for close to $100....
Does anyone have both a Tatula and a Chronarch? I've got the 50e, and it is light years beyond the Lexa in terms of smoothness.
Just curiosity speaking here. I like my Lexa plenty, and agree, it could be squeezed out of the market now that the Exceler is basically the same thing, minus a bearing or two.
I preferred the lexa honestly because it was much more comfortable to palm. Just my .02
On 1/10/2014 at 10:16 AM, Grantman83 said:I preferred the lexa honestly because it was much more comfortable to palm. Just my .02
That's one of the main reasons I'm liking the Lexa. I find the Tatula just a little awkward to palm.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:03 AM, DarrenM said:Does anyone have both a Tatula and a Chronarch? I've got the 50e, and it is light years beyond the Lexa in terms of smoothness.
Just curiosity speaking here. I like my Lexa plenty, and agree, it could be squeezed out of the market now that the Exceler is basically the same thing, minus a bearing or two.
I have both tatula and chronarch(51s and 201s)
I have large hands and was skeptical based on a lot of the comments made about the tatulas size. It is not this large reel people make it out to be. its just a bit wider up top but it is very easy to palm. It is very, very smooth and casts with ease and both short and long distances.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:29 AM, iabass8 said:I have both tatula and chronarch(51s and 201s)
I have large hands and was skeptical based on a lot of the comments made about the tatulas size. It is not this large reel people make it out to be. its just a bit wider up top but it is very easy to palm. It is very, very smooth and casts with ease and both short and long distances.
Would you put the Tatula a step below the Chronarch in terms of smoothness, or about even?
On 1/10/2014 at 10:01 AM, DarrenM said:I just did a quick search on ebay, and that's where you can find a Tatula for close to $100....
Just buy from Bassresource sponsor Ron at Valley tackle. There's a link on the right of the screen if your on your computer. I think he sells the standard tatula for $115ish. Better security than buying from eBay.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:31 AM, DarrenM said:Would you put the Tatula a step below the Chronarch in terms of smoothness, or about even?
I haven't had a chance to actually fish the tatula on the water yet. only chuck and wind it in a huge area. the tatula from what I've read feels very effortless when a fish is on while retrieving which is where it can really shine. Side by side w/o experiencing that yet, the chronarch and tatula are the same in terms of smoothness. the TWS is so effortless to cast. it is really great. I can really see myself using just tatulas for anything that involves chucking and winding. for pitching or anything bottom contact, i'm still partial to the 50 size shimanos.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:40 AM, bass1980 said:Just buy from Bassresource sponsor Ron at Valley tackle. There's a link on the right of the screen if your on your computer. I think he sells the standard tatula for $115ish. Better security than buying from eBay.
Yup, good idea. Was just responding to where it was close to the Lexa price....
Let's try to keep this on topic, I wanted to know about Lexa vs. Tatula not Chronarch vs. Tatula
On 1/10/2014 at 10:49 AM, LivewellHero said:Let's try to keep this on topic, I wanted to know about Lexa vs. Tatula not Chronarch vs. Tatula
The tatula is the easy pick and it isn't even close.
There's really no comparison between the two IMO. The Lexa should be compared to the excelsior when thinking of taking that $20-30 jump or not. The Tatula has much more to offer and more innovations.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:49 AM, LivewellHero said:Let's try to keep this on topic, I wanted to know about Lexa vs. Tatula not Chronarch vs. Tatula
I think your original question was 'was it worth it'. That implied the you already had acknowledge there were some differences, but not sure the difference are worth the price difference. At the end, only you can answer that. Everybody's situation, both fishing and financial, are different. I think you got the information you need to make that decision.
One thing I found some folks were not accurate in this thread was about the price, which I didn't want to go into, because recently the threads tend to turn into "buy from there don't buy from there" thread, but there are about $15 difference between the two on the lowest price I find on some auction site and Daiwa currently has a rebate on Lexa100 that you can download from their site. So we are actually talking a big price difference.
My issue with the tatula was that it was widest where I put my pointer finger with how I hold a reel. That and brake isn't recessed but actually juts out from the side plate right where I place my finger. I know the tatula is the rage right now and I also don't understand why the lexa was introduced only a year before the tatula when they are so close I price. However I did prefer the lexa and I know I am in the minority on that.
If the tatula is too wide for you like it is for some, get the t3 or t3 ballistic as they are on sale and have a smaller profile.
On 1/10/2014 at 10:49 AM, LivewellHero said:Let's try to keep this on topic, I wanted to know about Lexa vs. Tatula not Chronarch vs. Tatula
Wow, 40 posts and already telling it like it is with anti-hijacking thread facilitation! Performance wise it's a hands down win for the Tatula. If you're more concerned with how it feels in your hand, only you can answer that with your own side by side comparison.
On 1/10/2014 at 9:51 AM, LivewellHero said:So which do you prefer? The Tatula or Lexa? I still would think the Lexa is more comfortable to palm... I'm trying to get rid of my Pro Qualifier for most likely a Lexa
Lexa < PQ < Tatula
PQ will cast much better than the lexa IMO. The standard magforce (lexa has this) feels very restricted on casting. The magforce z (tatula has this) is much better for casting. You don't have to cast nearly as hard to get the same distance. The PQ has dual braking which IMO doesn't come close to mag z in casting performance, but it is better than magforce standard.
If you don't know the difference between magforce and magforce z, you may want to watch this video. The difference IMO is very substantial.
It's a long video, but very interesting.
For the price, there are a number of better reels available over the Lexa. Price is my only concern about Daiwa reels in general when buying new. I was glad to see them come out with an offering at the Lexa price point, but it's not quite on par with others at the same price.
On 1/13/2014 at 2:47 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:For the price, there are a number of better reels available over the Lexa. Price is my only concern about Daiwa reels in general when buying new. I was glad to see them come out with an offering at the Lexa price point, but it's not quite on par with others at the same price.
What have you seen with the Lexa that you don't like?
One thing that I don't like at all about the lexa is that under the CC knob, there isn't even a bushing, just a plastic cylinder. Also, casting is not on par with most other $130 reels out there.
On 1/13/2014 at 5:19 AM, aprw1 said:One thing that I don't like at all about the lexa is that under the CC knob, there isn't even a bushing, just a plastic cylinder. Also, casting is not on par with most other $130 reels out there.
You can buy that bearing for about $3 and add it. Honestly the improvement is slight. It's a 3x8x4 if you'd wanna add one to it.
I went fishing today and a buddy has a tatula combo. I was able to use it for a bit. It's a really nice setup. Balance point is about where the hook keeper is on a 7' mh with regular tatula reel. He had a bomber flat a on it. I don't know what they weigh but I was able to toss it pretty good. The reel is kinda big but it didn't find it uncomfortable to palm at all and I have smaller hands. Honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and my zillion. I only managed to snag a few trees so I can't speak on what it feels like with a fish on it. It is however a very smooth feeling reel. Mine will be here Wednesday and I already have 4 bearings coming to do the worm gear and knobs.
On 1/13/2014 at 3:30 AM, Fishwhittler said:What have you seen with the Lexa that you don't like?
Cheap bushing in place of 3rd spool bearing
low quality spool bearings
carbon fiber drag washers frayed and appear to be hand cut
rough edges on spool
"Geary" feel
These aren't terrible reels but are over priced IMO
Another thing that bothers me is that the diameter of that cheapy plastic bushing (which isn't even a bushing, just a plastic cylinder) is bigger than the spool shaft. If I take off the CC knob, the spin the spool via turning the handle or just spinning it with fingers, I can see the spool wiggle around at the end.
On 1/14/2014 at 2:39 AM, aprw1 said:Another thing that bothers me is that the diameter of that cheapy plastic bushing (which isn't even a bushing, just a plastic cylinder) is bigger than the spool shaft. If I take off the CC knob, the spin the spool via turning the handle or just spinning it with fingers, I can see the spool wiggle around at the end.
Same thing when you put a bearing in there too. I can spin the spool and the bearing doesn't move. Since there's a sideplate bearing and one on the spool shaft I'm not sure it'd even help much if it did make good contact with the bearing.
If it is a question of price definitely talk to Ron from Valley Sports! He has them on his website for only 106$ and a 25$ rebate on top of that! For that much I would just buy the Lexa anyway and if you don't like it that much you didn't lose a ton on it!
I got my lexa for $65-70, and I would rather have put that money towards a tatula.
On 1/13/2014 at 5:53 AM, rippin-lips said:The reel is kinda big but it didn't find it uncomfortable to palm at all and I have smaller hands. Honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and my zillion.
Big? Really? You consider it big? Were you bass fishing 10 yrs ago when the Almighty was considered to be a Curado or Citica 200 D? THAT was big, Tatula isn't a big reel (IMO), in fact feels small to me. Big is like 300 or 400 sizes, Musky and Saltwater guys use big, bass guys not so much.
I think they should start making 25 size bass reels and charging 300% more for them. Super light weight (like 3 oz tops) , with tiny capacity spools (maybe like 40 yds of 10lb) and every acronym available under the sun plus 150mm custom carbon fiber handles. Microscope needed to work on them would be extra though. I'm sure somebody could find a use for them AFTER upgrades.
On 1/15/2014 at 5:56 AM, Jeff H said:Big? Really? You consider it big? Were you bass fishing 10 yrs ago when the Almighty was considered to be a Curado or Citica 200 D? THAT was big, Tatula isn't a big reel (IMO), in fact feels small to me. Big is like 300 or 400 sizes, Musky and Saltwater guys use big, bass guys not so much.
With the norm of today being low profile baitcasters it is kinda big in comparison. Side by side with my Steez it's big. I was fishing 10yrs ago but it was with spinning gear so I have no experience with the older reels. Like I said it wasn't uncomfortable but it's a larger framed reel then most on the bass fishing market today.
I was just making a little humor man. We've definitely come far.
Received my type R today. Already tore it down and put bearings on the worm gear. Plus a good clean and lube. Can't wait to fish it.