Is This How You Break A Rod? 2024
deep reply :
(photo from bassmaster)
Hogsticker reply :
I imagine that might happen. Whoopsi
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Yup and the sad part is with proper technique that rod will deadlift probably 4x the weight of that fish. If you must lift with your rod swing the fish to the side of the boat, reel down and lift holding the rod parallel to the water. That way the tip won't be beyond 90* to the butt
.ghoti. reply :
That is exactly the way to break a rod.
rippin-lips reply :
He's just static testing it.
Raul reply :
The problem I see here is the part where it says -------> photo from Bassmasters
Why ? because every single wannabe "bass mater" is going to think that since it´s in the magazine/show it´s ok to do that and then we have the famous: my rod broke thread.
a1712 reply :
That's how my Bud breaks 5+ Legend Extremes every year. He waits till he has a tube full to send them back. I wonder why they cost so much? Brian.
S Hovanec reply :
Maybe I'll try that this weekend with my new SCV!
the reel ess reply :
The guy in that pic has unlimited access to as many rods as he can break. I don't.
d-camarena reply :
I wonder if hes sponsored
FishTank reply :
Yap but based on the equipment and $1200 rain suit, looks like he can afford it.
Jrob78 reply :
On 9/19/2015 at 6:52 AM, FishTank said:Yap but based on the equipment and $1200 rain suit, looks like he can afford it.
I doubt he paid for anything you see in that picture, not even the rain suit.
bigbill reply :
A $1,200 rain suit. I purchased Swiss surplus camo poncho rain gear I think it was $10 x2 for my son's. That's $1,180 I have to buy baits.
Sorry there I go off again
If your a pro fisherman your sponcered and paid to use free stuff.
The common fisherman like me and others who aren't pros or sponcered, I feel we can get buy more affordable.
Montanaro reply :
Nevermind
Bluebasser86 reply :
I've heard the best way to lift a fish into the boat is to grab the rod about a foot from the tip and lift the fish in like that? 
K_Mac reply :
On 9/19/2015 at 4:22 AM, a1712 said:That's how my Bud breaks 5+ Legend Extremes every year. He waits till he has a tube full to send them back. I wonder why they cost so much? Brian.
This is the reason why even great companies have to modify warranties to keep costs down. How much less would those Legends cost if they didn't have to replace rods broken by careless or thoughtless fishermen? Anything beyond a limited time, manufacturing defect only policy just encourages this sort of thing, and costs all of us more in the long term.
Back on topic, this is only one of many ways of breaking a rod. I haven't used this method, but I have found other ways; some of them just as dumb!
MDBowHunter reply :
My brother is the best at breaking rods, but he does it with his trunk lid. Probably ten rods have fell victim to my brothers trunk lid, you'd think after the first he would've learned his lesson...
kickerfish1 reply :
I find it lazy and unecssary to boat flip fish. If you are made of money or have a rod sponsor by all means have at it. It is not worth compromising a nice rod. Lip the fish, net it, or even grab the line and lift it that way. At the end of the day it is your gear so do as you wish.
WRB reply :
No reason to bounce a bass into the boat. Looking at the photo the rod is high stick, max bend and could break at any moment. Having 6' to 7' feet of line from the rod tip is the problem, should be about 18" to 2' of line and let the fish momentum help launch it into the boat. Aaron lost a classic trying that stunt, the fish bounced on the gunnel and fell back into the lake.
Tom
smalljaw67 reply :
The picture is the classic example of high sticking and pros do it all the time and when asked why they will tell you it is because they are on the clock. I mentioned before that I spoke to someone who designed rods for a living, he told me that he cringes every time he watches a tournament on T.V. and with the new materials and technology today, companies can manufacture rods that are in the 2oz range but unfortunately people are still going to boat flip fish and they will high stick too and break the rod and expect it to be replaced for free. He told me that more than 90% of rods he saw returned were all user error and the two most common themes were high sticking and boat flipping. He told me the best one he heard was a guy that said, "but it was only a 2lb fish, the rod was a MH it should have no problem" and he tried to explain that even if the fish weight 2 ounces it would still be wrong because the rod was not designed to work that way and even though it can be done with proper technique, it is still wrong to do. Another way that rods hav been breaking are on hook sets and the man told me it is almost always with braid and it happens during a thing called snap setting, the person either gets bite from a big fish or it is a snag and they set the hook, but not just rearing back, they drop the rod and that act is what causes the rod to break as it puts slack in the line and the rod goes from no tension to fully bent in one motion and it shocks the blank and snap! Now the reason it doesn't happen when there is tension is because you feel the pressure as you pull up and you end up stopping at the right moment but when you snap set, the movement is so fast because there is no tension or pressure and the rod is moving super fast for a split second and then full pressure and that speed ends up bending the tip section a little too far. Make no mistake, pros do this and they know it and will tell you that they realize it but they are fishing against the clock so saving seconds gives them as much fishing time as possible and it also means they do some bad things with the rods and what it means for us is that rods won't get any lighter until a material if found that works as good as graphite but won't break when flexed passed 90 degrees.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Yes! Nothing like poor execution from a supposed professional, lol. Break a $500 rod on a 2 pound fish. Well, we all break rods now & again..
kickerfish1 reply :
On 9/20/2015 at 6:59 PM, smalljaw67 said:The picture is the classic example of high sticking and pros do it all the time and when asked why they will tell you it is because they are on the clock. I mentioned before that I spoke to someone who designed rods for a living, he told me that he cringes every time he watches a tournament on T.V. and with the new materials and technology today, companies can manufacture rods that are in the 2oz range but unfortunately people are still going to boat flip fish and they will high stick too and break the rod and expect it to be replaced for free. He told me that more than 90% of rods he saw returned were all user error and the two most common themes were high sticking and boat flipping. He told me the best one he heard was a guy that said, "but it was only a 2lb fish, the rod was a MH it should have no problem" and he tried to explain that even if the fish weight 2 ounces it would still be wrong because the rod was not designed to work that way and even though it can be done with proper technique, it is still wrong to do. Another way that rods hav been breaking are on hook sets and the man told me it is almost always with braid and it happens during a thing called snap setting, the person either gets bite from a big fish or it is a snag and they set the hook, but not just rearing back, they drop the rod and that act is what causes the rod to break as it puts slack in the line and the rod goes from no tension to fully bent in one motion and it shocks the blank and snap! Now the reason it doesn't happen when there is tension is because you feel the pressure as you pull up and you end up stopping at the right moment but when you snap set, the movement is so fast because there is no tension or pressure and the rod is moving super fast for a split second and then full pressure and that speed ends up bending the tip section a little too far. Make no mistake, pros do this and they know it and will tell you that they realize it but they are fishing against the clock so saving seconds gives them as much fishing time as possible and it also means they do some bad things with the rods and what it means for us is that rods won't get any lighter until a material if found that works as good as graphite but won't break when flexed passed 90 degrees.
Nice post! I agree 100%
d-camarena reply :
I have a question. I have a shimano crucial. You guys probably know about the horrible hook keeper position. I was pitching into some thick grass and i had a bite. The braid had gotten stuck on the hook keeper so when i set the hook the drag was not able to engage. The rod exploded. Shimano replaced it but it didnt seem like they wanted to replace it. What do you guys think shimano should of done? Replace it or no?
Im a small buisness owner myself and i dont like it when customers try to take advantage of me but i honestly feel like it was a manufacturing error
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 9/21/2015 at 1:36 AM, d-camarena said:I have a question. I have a shimano crucial. You guys probably know about the horrible hook keeper position. I was pitching into some thick grass and i had a bite. The braid had gotten stuck on the hook keeper so when i set the hook the drag was not able to engage. The rod exploded. Shimano replaced it but it didnt seem like they wanted to replace it. What do you guys think shimano should of done? Replace it or no?
Im a small buisness owner myself and i dont like it when customers try to take advantage of me but i honestly feel like it was a manufacturing error
Sounds more like a design engineering issue than anything. Shimano has become testy on warranty claims the last 3 years or so.. Glad you got a replacement.
WRB reply :
The problem isn't bending a rod past 90 degrees, it's past 180 degrees as shown in the photo of this thread.
What anglers forget is a fish weighs about 1/3 it's weight in the water, 3 lb bass is less than 1 lb and is moving until it gets airborne by lifting it out of the water, when the inertia stops the weight increases to dead weight over loading the rod. 3 lbs of dead weight will max out a MH bass rod.
Tom
Raul reply :
On 9/21/2015 at 1:36 AM, d-camarena said:I have a question. I have a shimano crucial. You guys probably know about the horrible hook keeper position. I was pitching into some thick grass and i had a bite. The braid had gotten stuck on the hook keeper so when i set the hook the drag was not able to engage. The rod exploded. Shimano replaced it but it didnt seem like they wanted to replace it. What do you guys think shimano should of done? Replace it or no?
Im a small buisness owner myself and i dont like it when customers try to take advantage of me but i honestly feel like it was a manufacturing error
How come line stuck on the hook keeper is a "manufacturer error" ? 
corn-on-the-rob reply :
On 9/22/2015 at 12:04 AM, Raul said:How come line stuck on the hook keeper is a "manufacturer error" ?
More or less a design error, which would technically be the manufacturer's fault. I have also noticed on certain brands of rods the keeper i directly below and between the reel and the first guide, at time of slack line the line falls towards the blank and occasionally gets caught around the keeper, mostly a nuisance, but in this guy's case, failure to load properly resulting in fracture.
S Hovanec reply :
On 9/21/2015 at 1:40 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Sounds more like a design engineering issue than anything.
With all of the manufacturers using split grips on most of their models, I don't know why they don't mount the hook keep behind the rear grip. It's out of the way and easily accessible.
poisonokie reply :
On 9/22/2015 at 8:04 AM, S Hovanec said:With all of the manufacturers using split grips on most of their models, I don't know why they don't mount the hook keep behind the rear grip. It's out of the way and easily accessible.
Like so? This is my personal favorite solution. 
S Hovanec reply :
On 9/22/2015 at 8:18 AM, poisonokie said:Like so? This is my personal favorite solution. WP_20150919_17_00_31_Pro.jpg
Or like this.
I like this location for dropshot, jigs and T-rigged plastics and your location for treble baits.
A-Jay reply :
Here's one way to break a rod . . .
And it's very effective too as I snapped 3 in two days using this technique
A-Jay
kickerfish1 reply :
That makes me cringe AJ. Sounds like it was a rough trip for broken rods. Sorry to hear/see this.
WIGuide reply :
On 9/22/2015 at 9:03 AM, A-Jay said:Here's one way to break a rod . . .
And it's very effective too as I snapped 3 in two days using this technique
A-Jay
I recently found that catching a rod under a tie down cleat is also an effective way to break a rod :/
WRB reply :
Proper hook setting technique, 2 piece rods breaking at the ferrule?
Tom
grizzly1654 reply :
I prefer to have my partner net the fish for me........that way i can blame him if it gets off lol.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 9/22/2015 at 9:03 AM, A-Jay said:Here's one way to break a rod . . .
And it's very effective too as I snapped 3 in two days using this technique
A-Jay
Based on the break location and clean break, this rod had likely been compromised in some way: scratch, dent or ding from contact with a cleat, rock, sinker etc.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/25/2015 at 12:52 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Based on the break location and clean break, this rod had likely been compromised in some way: scratch, dent or ding from contact with a cleat, rock, sinker etc.
Anything's possible Mike.
Three failed the same way in two days.
All failed right at or above a ferrule (travel rods)
Another failed the year before.
Three were mine, one was Jeff's (00 mod).
I'm leaning towards the design.
A-Jay
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 9/25/2015 at 1:22 AM, A-Jay said:Anything's possible Mike.
Three failed the same way in two days.
All failed right at or above a ferrule (travel rods)
Another failed the year before.
Three were mine, one was Jeff's (00 mod).
I'm leaning towards the design.
A-Jay
Watched the Vid.. I agree, 3 in one trip & 1 earlier in time. A simple hookset, no doubt in my mind that's either a poorly designed rod or a poorly manufactured rod. That would suck on a trip like that.. I had a firing pin break on a rifle in Saskatchewan in about 94, glad I had a backup rifle, sheesh, stuff happens.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/25/2015 at 2:49 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Watched the Vid.. I agree, 3 in one trip & 1 earlier in time. A simple hookset, no doubt in my mind that's either a poorly designed rod or a poorly manufactured rod. That would suck on a trip like that.. I had a firing pin break on a rifle in Saskatchewan in about 94, glad I had a backup rifle, sheesh, stuff happens.
Had plenty of tackle - this is where being a spaz & always bringing too much stuff actually paid off.
But happening while cranking with 17 pound mono ? I might be able to accept it a bit more if I was Dropping the hammer with 50 lb braid.
Either Way, ST Croix took very good care of me (LTB rod upgrades) and I'm a happy camper.
Still haven't decided which travel rod to replace them with yet though - I'm a little gun shy.
A-Jay
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I missed that they were travel rods. If you're seeing a pattern then I'd have to agree. Don't be scared away from travel rods altogether though. Done right , they'll do anything a one piece will.
Bass newb reply :
Wow. I never knew that was wrong. Glad I haven't broken my rods yet. I'll be more careful from now on. No one ever told me.
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