Any Co-Polymer Fans Here? 2024
bkohlman reply :
If you like to use co-polymer line, tell us why and what brand.
As always, thanks for the information!
Preytorien reply :
I use P-Line's CX Premium on one of my outfits. I seem to have great luck with it. I use the KVD Line and Lure and it makes a good line even better.
I bought it a while back thinking it was pure Flourocarbon, but rather it was a co-polymer. I thought at first I wouldn't care for it as much as Flouro that I had used, but in my experience it seems to be a versatile line with great strength, knots, and manageability.
War Eagle 44 reply :
I agree P-Line CX is great for spinning gear IMHO and I use nothing but P-Line CXX on any of my baitcasters that don't have braid. My main reason for using this line is the plain & simple bottom line fact that it just doesn't break. Fantastic copoly.
Jaheff reply :
I have two baitcasters with Izorline Platinum in 10 and 12. I also use it as leader line in 15 and 20 on other reels. Good stuff, cheap and available at all my local sporting good stores.
bigfishbk86 reply :
For my spinning outfits that don't have fireline on them I use 8lb CXX, and on my baitcasters that don't have braid on i use 20, 15, or 12lb CXX depending on application. I don't use any floro (probably the only guy here), just not a fan and its way too expensive for what it is. I love CXX because its manageable with line conditioner and literally tough as nails.
roadwarrior reply :
P-Line and Yo-Zuri Hybrid seem to be most popular with the BR membership.
kickerfish1 reply :
My favorite was Gamma. Now I don't fish the hybrid lines as much anymore. If I had to pick one today Yo-zuri is a solid choice for price to performance.
iabass8 reply :
i don't fish copoly anymore but when i did on a few reels, i used CXX. that stuff is ridiculously strong.
tomustang reply :
We use the use gamma for everything, then they decided to pull out from store shelves so we gave up on them. Went with P-Line and didn't look back. Currently on the C21 line.
K_Mac reply :
I am thinking about trying some other options this year just for grins, but I have been using CXX exclusively for a couple of years now. With a little KVD it is a very good choice in my opinion.
Mike2841 reply :
I like pline cxx
Bluebasser86 reply :
P line C21. I use it for moving baits when it doesn't matter if my line stretches. It's very strong, abrasion resistant, and cheap.
Gaerith reply :
I've used 12# yo zuri and was really happy with it. I have some p line cxx on my cranking rod I plan on trying this season, but I have yet to fish it so can't comment. My only complaint about yo zuri is that I have yet to see it in a store locally... 
The Young Gun reply :
Someone please quote me, does a co poly line have some sort of invisible element to it? I love my yo zuri 12#.
bigbill reply :
Excalibur Silver Thread co-polymere, yozuri hybrid co-polymer, seem to be the best so far.
Why I like co-polymer line?
Less stretch, no rubber band, faster hook sets for my older slower reaction. As I get older I have to think in advance. My reaction time isn't like it once was. I'm still lip hooking fish so I'm ok so far. Co-polymer can with stand more abrasions too. The bottom line is less lost fish. If it's improved my shore fishing by 50% less lost fish n tackle it has to help the boaters too.
Live long and prosper, fish hard too. Bill
Goose52 reply :
I use Yo-Zuri for nearly all my applications. I do have braid on a few rods, some nylon mono here and there, and flouro on an NRX rod, but by and large I use YZ for most casting and spinning setups.
Why? Mostly cost vs. performance. YZ is not necessarily the ideal line for any particular application...but it's a cost effective and "good enough" line for most applications. Strong, good abrasion resistance, inexpensive. I just counted and right now I have line on 51 reels - 32 of those reels have Yo-Zuri. With that many reels ready to go, having a standardized, cost-effective "go-to" line, purchased in bulk, realizes considerable savings...
Darren. reply :
On 1/15/2014 at 3:50 AM, roadwarrior said:P-Line and Yo-Zuri Hybrid seem to be most popular with the BR membership.
These are my brands of choice.
P-Line Floroclear and YZH both in green and only use them for leader line.
roadwarrior reply :
On 1/15/2014 at 8:35 AM, Goose52 said:I use Yo-Zuri for nearly all my applications. I do have braid on a few rods, some nylon mono here and there, and flouro on an NRX rod, but by and large I use YZ for most casting and spinning setups.
Why? Mostly cost vs. performance. YZ is not necessarily the ideal line for any particular application...but it's a cost effective and "good enough" line for most applications. Strong, good abrasion resistance, inexpensive. I just counted and right now I have line on 51 reels - 32 of those reels have Yo-Zuri. With that many reels ready to go, having a standardized, cost-effective "go-to" line, purchased in bulk, realizes considerable savings...
WOW!
bkohlman reply :
On 1/15/2014 at 8:35 AM, Goose52 said:I use Yo-Zuri for nearly all my applications. I do have braid on a few rods, some nylon mono here and there, and flouro on an NRX rod, but by and large I use YZ for most casting and spinning setups.
Why? Mostly cost vs. performance. YZ is not necessarily the ideal line for any particular application...but it's a cost effective and "good enough" line for most applications. Strong, good abrasion resistance, inexpensive. I just counted and right now I have line on 51 reels - 32 of those reels have Yo-Zuri. With that many reels ready to go, having a standardized, cost-effective "go-to" line, purchased in bulk, realizes considerable savings...
That is a tremendous amount of gear you have! I am guessing top water applications would be one of your non YZ lines
Goose52 reply :
On 1/15/2014 at 9:19 AM, roadwarrior said:WOW!
Hey RW - I started using YZH based on your recommendation. Having a standardized line lets me buy new reels without having to worry too much about line selection. You and the bait monkey = lotta reels... 
On 1/15/2014 at 9:35 AM, bkohlman said:That is a tremendous amount of gear you have! I am guessing top water applications would be one of your non YZ lines
Sure- mono for topwater. Also, 14lb and 17lb applications are still mono as I have a lot to use up; eventually, 15lb YZH will probably take over those applications. I also still use mono for 4lb applications.
eyedabassman reply :
My vote goes to Gamma.And you can still buy it at there web site,the last time that I looked! The Black family bought Gamma.
Bjreg3 reply :
Yo zuri hybrid line. Been using it for several years and trust it.
Dr. Watson reply :
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is wonderful stuff, been using it on all spinning equipment. Trilene Sensation is what I've been using on my bait casters that are not using floro. McCoy Mean Green is my backup, I haven't ever had any problems with it, besides it getting stiff when older.
craww reply :
Almost all monofiliments are "copolymers" and fish like a nylon line. Trilene XT was briefly called a copoly. There are different recipes with moderately different behaviors but they all act like a nylon based line. I love hybrid but there are lines that fish with similar characteristics that arent labed a "copoly" on the box. Generally better abrasion resistance = more memory (hybrid, CXX, suffix seige, trilene xt), better handling= nicks up easier and sometimes more stretch (trilene xl, suffix seige, stren easy cast, etc.) with diameters playing a big role regardless of lb test.
Seeing people say they like copolymers for this and mono for that is laughable. Bottom line most all nylon based lines are pretty cheap and its no big deal to try a few til you find what you like.
roadwarrior reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 8:01 AM, craww said:Seeing people say they like copolymers for this and mono for that is laughable. Bottom line most all nylon based lines are pretty cheap and its no big deal to try a few til you find what you like.
It seems to me that the OP is asking for guidance from guys that have fished a lot of alternatives
through the years. For those of us that have, we have reached some conclusions that might save
a newbie a lot of time, money and trouble.
craww reply :
Your missing the point....By informing the OP that there is a great deal of grey area and marketing involved with what an actual copolymer is he has more options available. Regardless of what the box says or magazine ads state every nylon line or mono has multiple resins to give it specific properties. I understand there are nylon lines with minute amounts of flouro called copolymers, but there are also several straight up nylon lines called coploys. There are lines called mono and copolys that fish exactly the same, because they are the same thing chemically.
K_Mac reply :
Craww the differences in formulation of mono/copolymer lines really makes little difference to me. For many years I used traditional mono line. When I began to experiment with copolymers I found there are huge differences in how they fish. Since then I have used a more traditional mono (Trilene Big Game) a few times. I have also used YZ Hybrid, Gamma, and CXX copolys and find any of these superior to traditional mono for my purposes.
Now, for me to say I like copolys better than mono may be laughable to you, but based on my testing and long term use the above copolys perform better than any traditional mono I've ever used. You argue that it is just semantics and marketing. My question is: What line labeled mono has the same fishing characteristics as the above copolys?
daiwaguy reply :
I have a question here too. Is it buoyant like Mono or does it sink like Fluoro? Does it still have enough stretch for such things as lipless and other cranks? Is it resistant enough for jigs in brush and rip rap? If the answer to these questions is yes would you agree it is the most fantastic creation in the line world in a long time? I have considered trying it but I have such presentation specific set ups that certain lines are used for certain techniques, but if I could save a lot of money on line by using this for multiple presentations then why wouldn't I? That is all.
roadwarrior reply :
Yo-Zuri Hybrid or P-Line can be used for EVERY application. They are both inexpensive,
so give them a try and throw them away if you don't like them. My first copolymer was P-Line,
but I find Yo-Zuri more manageable.
gitzitfish reply :
I've used ALOT of different lines over the years. For many years my main line was Berkley Big Game in 10, 12, and 15 pound tests. Based on this forum and several others I gave YoZuri Hybrid a shot. I really like it! I use it in 10 and 12 for moving baits on baitcasters and 6 on my spinning setups. It works GREAT on spinning outfit. I use Sunline fluoro for contact baits. YZH has been really good to me. I tried the YZH Ultra soft and did not care for it very much!
Darren. reply :
On 1/19/2014 at 11:22 PM, gitzitfish said:I tried the YZH Ultra soft and did not care for it very much!
Same experience here. Did not care for YZH US much. Prefer straight YZH hands-down. But again, for me, I'll go P-Line Floroclear first, then YZH. I use both, I like both, have lots of spools of both. Almost always have both on different rods I take with me...just because.
Goose52 reply :
I have regular YZH on my deep cranking rod (10lb) - it just seems a bit stronger and abrasion resistant than the Ultra-Soft. BUT, all my other YZ applications are with Ultra-Soft - both BC and spinning. Ultra-Soft is probably not as good a line as the regular, but it IS more manageable, and still strong enough. The main reason I have so much Ultra-Soft was the outstanding deal on it a couple years ago - $25 for ONE pound spools (5,800 to 8,000 yards per spool). I got two spools of 10lb, and one each of 8lb and 6lb for a hundred bucks plus shipping - about what some folks pay for 3 filler spools of flouro. I'm just about finished with the first spool of 10lb - glad I have the second spool ready to go...
The 10lb Ultra-Soft seems to be strong enough for my purposes...
MarkH024 reply :
This coming season im try YZH for the first time. Got 12# in 600 yd for $13.00. Not a big investment so if I don't like it, no big deal. It gets rave reviews here so im confident it'll work out.
supreme reply :
Gamma Co-poly rules 8 lbs,12 lbs & 14 lbs green
WRB reply :
What is the definition of copolymer fishing line?
Polymer is 2 monomers blended, a copolymer is 2 polymers blended, coextrusion is 1 monomer or polymer extruded over a core of another monomer or polymer.
YoZuri is a coextruded line, not a copolymer; fluorocarbon extruded over Nylon and why it's called a hybrid.
P-line CXX is a copolymer, 2 grades of Nylon blended.
Tom
Kickedback reply :
A little late but my take just the same...I have used Silver Thread for as many years as I can remember. I don't think I will ever switch, it's that good. Compare dia. to strength and it beats many others. I buy bulk spools and save a lot. 6, 10 and 17 lb are the ones. Good stuff
Tywithay reply :
Love Shooter Defier and Defier Armilo. I've tried just about everything and nothing compares, they're simply the best.
black94gt50 reply :
I use pline ćxx on my square bill setup. Powell diesel with a citica e. I use the 12 lb test ćxx and it has yet to let me down, the stuff is strong and pretty abrasive resistant.
moguy1973 reply :
I'm a big fan of P-Line CX Premium. It'll probably be the only line I use in the future unless I have a braid topwater reel. I also use Yozuri Hybrid, and although I like it, I don't like it as much as the CX Premium.
RoLo reply :
P-Line CX Premium (for dropshot rigs only)
CXX is a strong copolymer line (nylon blend), however CX Premium is a cofilament copolymer line.
CX Premium has a copolymer core with a fluorocarbon sheath (I use it for dropshot leaders, not the main line).
Roger
grampa1114 reply :
I'm coming late to this discussion but went back to the beginning and read it all...My preference for the last 5 years or so has been Yo-zuri in 6#....when the soft came out, it also worked well with a little less memory. Throwing finesse baits was fairly easy and the occasional big fish would come in easily with the very high break strength. The problem now is finding 6# clear in bulk spools. Basspro doesn't carry it. Cabela's doesn't carry it and I didn't see it at Tackle Warehouse either. This is my line of choice so where do I find it?
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