Any suggestions for a spinning rig for finesse fishing? In the 300.00 price range. Thanks
Are you talking combo or just a rod?
My typical "rig" is a St. Croix rod of various lengths depending on what I am doing (and where), with a Shimano Ci4+ reel. A 3000 series reel is a great finesse reel. I typically use 10 lbs. braid (Sufix 832) to an 8 lbs. Seaguar Invizx fluorocarbon leader, length of about 8'.
On the rods, for a bit heavier finesse presentations, say a T-Rigged worm or creature bait with a nose weight, I like a 7' rod from the bank or a boat, a shorter rod if I am in my canoe or kayak. And, medium power with either a moderate or fast tip. For smaller finesse presentations, a ML is popular and I think lots of anglers use MLs for drop shots, Ned Rigs, throwing weightless worms.
Brad
On 4/23/2018 at 8:53 PM, Burros said:Are you talking combo or just a rod?
Rod and reel.
On 4/23/2018 at 4:11 PM, Fuzz said:Any suggestions for a spinning rig for finesse fishing? In the 300.00 price range. Thanks
What weights do you consider finesse?
EDIT: Picked up a spinning reel over the winter that needs a rod. I have been researching MLs. I really like what I have been reading about the Villain 2.0 rods. Other rods on my list are Abu Garcia "IKE", Zodias, Cronos, Sierra, Tatula Elite, Major Craft Don Iovino and the Ark Invoker.
For a reel I would suggest looking at a Daiwa BG, Okuma RTX, Shimano NASCI or Pflueger Supreme or Supreme XT.
For a combo setup there are a TON of options you
have before you, as many options as there are
subscribers to Bass Resource!
You can stay in the $100 range for a rod and do
very well since there are so many in that $ range
which are equally light and sensitive.
Bass Pro Pro Qualifier 2, Carbonlites; St. Croix
Premier; Abu Veritas; Duckett Fishing Ghost;
Fenwick HMG; among many others, and that
is just what Bass Pro offers. FWIW, the PQ2
are currently on sale for $79, reg $99.
If you spend say $100, I'd personally look at the
Stradic FK and Daiwa Tatula LT, maybe upping to
the Stradic CI4+ and Daiwa Ballistic LT reels.
Dawia bg 1500 and a 6' shimano old school fightin rod med light with 6 lb yo zuri 2 are easy to find the rod is hard to find but love it tip action with backbone
Id go with the new Phenix feather 7'1 M spinning and a shimano stradic or sustain 2500 spinning reel.
St. Croix mojo spinning
diawa fuego ct reel
i think that fits your budget!
Will you be using it or techniques requiring sensitivity? You can get the Pflueger President for less than $60 and it is a highly thought of reel. That would leave you plenty of money for a very sensitive rod. Personally I'd probably go for a reel in the $100-$130 range and spend the rest on the rod. Wait a sec. That is what I am doing.
Take a look at the Dobyns DX 742....thread on this page.
Tom
On 4/24/2018 at 12:38 AM, WRB said:Take a look at the Dobyns DX 742....thread on this page.
Tom
That rod alone is higher than his combo budget.
On 4/24/2018 at 1:10 AM, Tywithay said:That rod alone is higher than his combo budget.
Read the thread, there is a lot of good info.
Tom
On 4/24/2018 at 1:34 AM, WRB said:Read the thread, there is a lot of good info.
Tom
Well, there is info in that thread if your budget is more than $300. To echo Ty's comment, the rod you personally recommended is a $349 rod. I know cuz I own one (pre-HP) and it is a sweet finesse rod.
To the OP, I tend to go by the 1:2 ratio; meaning split your $300 as $100 reel and $200 rod. There's plenty of very good spinning rods in the $200 price range. But, since you didn't say what type of waters you fish, what part of the country you live in, or if you're trageting spots, greenies, or brown bass, etc, etc - if you provide more info, folks can narrow down your choices.
On 4/24/2018 at 1:34 AM, WRB said:Read the thread, there is a lot of good info.
Tom
There's nothing in that thread that tells you how to get a $340 rod, and a reel, for less than $300...unless I missed something.
On 4/24/2018 at 5:39 AM, Tywithay said:There's nothing in that thread that tells you how to get a $340 rod, and a reel, for less than $300...unless I missed something.
Yes, I mentioned that high end spinning rods don't offer the same performance advantages that a bait casting rods does. I use Major Craft $120 finesse spinning rods, good quality for the price point. I hold a spinning rod by the 1 finger behind the reel post, 3 fingers in front, nothing is touching the rod blank directly other then the reel.
With baitcasting rods the blank is exposed under the reel and easier to feel the line and rod blank directly, not so with spinning rods.
So, The OP could look at Dobyns Fury line or Major Craft and still have money for a good spinning reel.
Tom
PS, just trying to save time, didn't work.
On 4/24/2018 at 8:03 AM, WRB said:Yes, I mentioned that high end spinning rods don't offer the same performance advantages that a bait casting rods does. I use Major Craft $120 finesse spinning rods, good quality for the price point. I hold a spinning rod by the 1 finger behind the reel post, 3 fingers in front, nothing is touching the rod blank directly other then the reel.
With baitcasting rods the blank is exposed under the reel and easier to feel the line and rod blank directly, not so with spinning rods.
So, The OP could look at Dobyns Fury line or Major Craft and still have money for a good spinning reel.
Tom
PS, just trying to save time, didn't work.
Newer rods with the Fuji TVS reel seat offer an ample amount of exposed blank on a spinning rod.
Finesse for me is a 7' ML-F HMG. With a Daiwa BG 1500 and 8lbs NanoFil. I can feel the pulsation of a 1/16th Rooster Tail, willow leaf. It is faint, but noticable.
My biggest lure is 1/8th oz with this rig, but it can handle heavier.
That set up is around 180.00(minus line) and I recently bought a second BG 1500.
As always, your milage will vary.
Rod Fenwick elite tech mlxf. This is a wonderful rod. I did have an issue with the reel seat lock nut coming loose but I fixed that and otherwise it's great. Light sensitive and a good value. Reel I would get the fuego lt in a 2000 unless you run strait fluorocarbon the upsize to the 2500. If you could make a stretch then the tatula lt would be a better reel.
I just got a Daiwa BG 2000 and a St Croix Avid X 6'9" ML/XF
I really like the Veritas 6'6 Medium Fast or Veritas 6'9 Medium Light Fast....At $100 per rod and a 3 year warranty they offer very good to excellent performance at a bargain price point.
StC AVS66LF $180
Shim Ultegra 1000 (ULT1000HGFB) $150
Only $30 over budget.
I wanted "general purpose light duty" combo in a single rod, to cover panfish and finesse bass techniques, a combo that would pair with a M/F BC for the heavier loads and techniques, when I want to take only two rods.
The rod arrived today and I threw the Ultegra on it only because I had it available. I plan to get a CI4+ for this rod (but that would be over your budget). The Ultegra seems to pair very well with it though.
The 6'6 rod has a good range 1/16 to 1/4 oz, 4-8# line, uses the SCIII blank and it feels just great. Tried a few casts using 1/16, 3/16 and 1/4 oz weights. VERY happy with this combo and can't wait to use it this weekend. Since I couldn't find the rod in stock locally, I was worried it might be too heavy or not sensitive for panfish or too light for bass, but after handling and casting briefly, it feels just right. I couldn't be happier. Well, unless I actually get a fish on it.
I have the lews mach2 ned rod and iys perfect
Megabass Orochi XX whipsnake, I will see how it compares to my addermine.
I got one on order...:)
Personally, I'd go with a custom made rod in the $200+ range. Talk with a builder and let them know exactly what you'll be using it for. Skip all the bling and you'll have exactly what you want/need and then get yourself a President and you're done.
Man I have a 6'9 dobyns sierra medium light with a 3000 series pflueger president that I'm tickled with. Good for drop shots, wacky rigs, I'm sure it'd work for a ned rig ( never tried one.) Looking at a little over $200 for the combo. (Disclaimer: I found the rod up against a trash bin at work with 5/8 inch broke off the tip. It's still super sensitive and Love it)
I have a Dobyns Sierra 702 paired with a Stradic ci4 3000. The combo works great for me. It's the only spinning setup I have on the boat and the 7ft is just perfect right in the middle of lengths. The ci4 is of course very light so drop shotting and shakey head is easy on the wrist. I would how ever consider getting a second setup that's a 7'4 for longer casts in the future. You can probably pickup both brand new for under your expected budget.
There are a thousand different combinations. You need to decide what matters most and narrow it down. Do you want the most sensitive? Or lightest weight? Smoothest reel? Etc.
St Croix avid x. 6'9 ml-xf, 6'8 m-xf, or 7' ml-f. Pair with a Pflueger President or president xt. $300 all in and should last quite awhile.
Wondering why people are using 3000 series reels on light weight rods. Can't imagine that makes it lite and balanced.
On 4/26/2018 at 8:49 AM, Angry John said:Wondering why people are using 3000 series reels on light weight rods. Can't imagine that makes it lite and balanced.
Makes no sense to me either. A 1500 or 2000 size is lighter and has twice as much line capacity as you'll need for bass.
On 4/26/2018 at 8:53 AM, Tywithay said:Makes no sense to me either. A 1500 or 2000 size is lighter and has twice as much line capacity as you'll need for bass.
I love 1500 series reels. As long as they balance on the rod their on I've never felt undergunned with one.
Since there isn't any standards for reel size you need to touch and feel them.
I use 1000 size Shimano Stactic for finesse spinning spinning, no reason to go bigger with line under 7 lb test.
Tom
I use a Fenwick Aetos paired with a Stradic CI4, the whole combo weighs less than 10 oz's. To stay in your price range a Tatula LT would fit the bill, great reel and just as light. Can't go wrong with a Pflueger either, just a tad heavier.
if you're a shore guy - Phenix M1 7'8" Medium/Extra Fast, any 2500 sized Shimano reel. I carry this single setup and catch 90% of my fish with it. You can use it for dropshotting, wacky, shakey head, Carolina rig, Texas Rig, Neko, Ned, small jigs, small swimbaits, smaller lipless/squarebill crankbaits, smaller topwater, etc. It does pretty much everything you need.
Plfueger is an old American reel company dating back to 1881, however they no longer manufacture reels in the USA, Doyo in Korea or China makes them. Doyo makes several reels for Pure Fishing including Abu Garcia and Lews. If the reels look similar it's because they are and have several interchangeable parts, same reels with different name plates.
I don't know of any fresh water reel being made in the USA anymore, all off shore.
It comes down to customer service and warranty and today Daiwa and Shimano are both good companies that maintain part inventory in the US.
Way off topic.
I use Major Craft Fineese spinning rods with Shimano reels within the OP's $300 combo price point.
Tom
PS, my Shimano Aero Stratic 1000 & 2500 spinning reels are 25 years old and in perfect condition without any problems over that time period and caught hundreds of bass on them. The 1000 on 6'9" medium, 2500 on 7' MH are well balanced.