Just want to get some opinions on the matter, thanks.
Size of bait matters a lot. Most times I run medium, but a g2 shellcracker is way to heavy for that rod. Taper will also change the weight some choose.
Not only does size of bait matter, but size of fish too. I'd go with MH.
I don't throw anything heavier than the larger spook. Not sure if that would work with a med rod.
Bait size dictates. I prefer medium/XF, but I typically only throw spook juniors.
I like to use a MH 6'6" Fast rod for this application with 10lb mono.
In general I use a MH for topwater.
Mostly MH/F
I throw the original Zara spook on a MH/F
I have both and let the situations dictate which I go with.
I use a Cabelas heavy topwater frog rod. It's awesome because it is light and feels like a medium heavy.
Medium Power/ Moderate Action or MH/F with a soft tip
On 12/31/2014 at 11:44 AM, Flip&bang said:Just want to get some opinions on the matter, thanks.
Both
MH if I'm throwing an oversized lure, or if I'm fishing in thick cover. Here on the Potomac I'm usually throwing a frog in thick vegetation, so a medium action rod would put me in trouble as soon as I hooked up with anything. BUT, in open water situations, I will throw normal to smaller size lures on a medium action rod. Sometimes even a medium light. Keep in mind most of these topwaters are treble set ups, so you don't need much backbone for a massive hookset.
I use a M for treble hooked topwaters,and a MH or H for frogs depending on the cover.
On 12/31/2014 at 10:41 PM, ww2farmer said:I use a M for treble hooked topwaters,and a MH or H for frogs depending on the cover.
This...lol....proof that I could be much more concise.
I guess I would lean more towards a MH, in the 7' to 7'3" range. I take some people and ask them to start throwing their spooks (super spook, repoman, vixen, river2sea rover) on their jig rod and they're typically surprised how much they like it and how the hooks in fact don't "rip out" like they're supposed to! My personal choice is a Dobyns Champion 734c.
The size of the lure does play a part in rod my rod selection, 3/4 and 1 oz lures I'm using a 7' 8/17 med spinning, lighter lures it's a light or ml, I've been digging 1/4 oz on a ul, but that's open water fishing.
It isn't the size of the fish it's the water I have to pull them out of, the bigger on the lighter the better I like it.
For my likes, it's a 7' ML avid spinning, throwing 1/4 oz pop'r type baits, w/ 1000 size spinning. I will use a M 7' as well minnow floaters.. In Florida I use MH to H baitcasting in freshwater lakes, with heavy hydrilla and lily pads, throwing larger cedar prop baits, like snook said, it's really about bait size vs cover = rod selection and sport factor..
Both depends
I use a Medium Heavy for most of my frogging (there's not a bunch of really heavy pads up here) and a medium for all hard body topwater baits.
The size of the weed stems RULES when a fish dives & wraps around a couple. BRUTE force can be necessary.
Open bare bottom ? go with 2# or 4# line. He is not going to get away.
Rod action to me, is very unimportant.
I would use a Medium for most topwaters except for a Big spook or a frog.
Why go with 2-4lb line when you can get just as many bites with twice the strength? I could see that maybe once in a blue moon using a small test line could boat you another fish or two but on a day to day basis you don't need to waste time with 2# line... Heck a big bluegill can break you off on 2# line. If you have any, and I mean ANY kinks or nicks in your line or your knot is not perfect on line that light you can kiss that trophy bass goodbye.
And rod action is very important to me when it comes to presenting baits and getting a good hook set, different applications call for different rod actions.
With braids. You need almost no hook set swings. Add in that I am barbeless. The fish is hooked easily. Keep a no slack line.. Rod vertical or bent back a little.
If I lose a great jumper fish I accept that he was lucky or better than me. No problem & I enjoyed the contest.
Catching perch for food. 10# test & big barbed trebles. Reel fast & in the boat. Cut the gill arteries to drain some blood out Into the big ziplock in ice water.
Those are my 2 styles.
On 1/2/2015 at 12:54 AM, cyclops2 said:With braids. You need almost no hook set swings. Add in that I am barbeless. The fish is hooked easily. Keep a no slack line.. Rod vertical or bent back a little.
If I lose a great jumper fish I accept that he was lucky or better than me. No problem & I enjoyed the contest.
Catching perch for food. 10# test & big barbed trebles. Reel fast & in the boat. Cut the gill arteries to drain some blood out Into the big ziplock in ice water.
Those are my 2 styles.
This literally has nothing to do with this topic......
On 1/2/2015 at 12:03 AM, cyclops2 said:The size of the weed stems RULES when a fish dives & wraps around a couple. BRUTE force can be necessary.
Open bare bottom ? go with 2# or 4# line. He is not going to get away.
Rod action to me, is very unimportant
The topic is about rod power, not action.
Medium-Heavy for me.
Tight lines,
Bob
Medium heavy for hollow body frogs, medium for everything else...
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Went to Rajeff for a explanation. Thanks for the technical wakeup . I use medium power & medium action in everything I buy. If available.
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm gonna try some mono on a 7'mh and see how I like that.
By the way, there's no way to practice walking the dog without water is there??
Medium heavy.
I'm not quite sure why I would use a different power rod for hollow body frogs compared to a soft plastic (Zoom) or any any other top water lure. Given similar lure weights it's how the rod is going to load up and how much cover I have to pull a fish thru.
Medium heavy is great for topwaters that don't have treble hooks, unless the MH is a moderate action. Topwaters with trebles like spooks and popper I treat just like a jerkbait, I use a shorter rod with medium power and fast action, the short length and fast action allow me precise control over the bait and the medium power offers just enough forgiveness or flex to allow me to fight the fish on small treble hooks without pulling them out. I do like a medium heavy with a moderate fast action for a super spook but regular Zara Spooks and super spook Jr.s get used with a medium power, fast action rod.
On 1/2/2015 at 2:18 PM, Flip&bang said:Thanks for the responses guys. I'm gonna try some mono on a 7'mh and see how I like that.
By the way, there's no way to practice walking the dog without water is there??
Not that i know of, it is a feel and timing thing that just takes practice on the water.
I Get carried away on learning something new. So I got the rythem down correct for me in open water. Then changed the trebles to weedless. More open water weedless practice. Then into pockets of reeds. The bass & pike were hungry . I used the 60# Ande mono.
Had to lift the 9.9 hp & row or pole in to retrieve a lure with a hook stuck into a stem the size of my pinky. Well worth the retrival efforts.
Note.
The LM living at each reed pocket would bite anytime.