Best mono as leader 2024
Johnpenguin reply :
Been using a lot of stren for a leader and I have to say I love it so far. Although this is true I am trying to keep my eyes open. Does anyone know of a better mono as a leader material?
schplurg reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:31 AM, Johnpenguin said:Been using a lot of stren for a leader and I have to say I love it so far. Although this is true I am trying to keep my eyes open. Does anyone know of a better mono as a leader material?
I'm no expert, yet, but I just use the little bit of leftover line from the spools I bought. I just started using braid so like I said, not an expert, but I don't see myself buying special leader line for bass.
I use maybe a 4 foot leader.
WRB reply :
Price per yard, knot and abrasion strength would be Berkley Big Game mono.
Tom
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:38 AM, schplurg said:I'm no expert, yet, but I just use the little bit of leftover line from the spools I bought. I just started using braid so like I said, not an expert, but I don't see myself buying special leader line for bass.
I use maybe a 4 foot leader.
Ya I never use “leader line”. I started using fc sniper as a leader and it wasn’t terrible but mono is the way to go most of the time.
On 2/21/2020 at 11:41 AM, WRB said:Price per yard, knot and abrasion strength would be Berkley Big Game mono.
Tom
Isn’t that pretty thick?
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:41 AM, WRB said:Price per yard, knot and abrasion strength would be Berkley Big Game mono.
Tom
This in also my leader of choice ~
Big Game Green has been making it happen for a long time.
Honorable mention for me also goes to Maxima Ultragreen.
Really strong in every respect; especially down in the 5, 6, & 8 lb tests.
A-Jay
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:49 AM, A-Jay said:This in also my leader of choice ~
Big Game Green has been making it happen for a long time.
Honorable mention for me also goes to Maxima Ultragreen.
Really strong in every respect; especially down in the 5, 6, & 8 lb tests.
A-Jay
As much as I love tactical Bassin’ I’ll never use maxima again. The memory is cancerous.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:53 AM, Johnpenguin said:As much as I love tactical Bassin’ I’ll never use maxima again. The memory is cancerous.
In the 6 to say 20 ft leader lengths I'm using it in, and coming off a bulk spool,
whatever 'memory' it may have, is inconsequential.
A-Jay
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:57 AM, A-Jay said:In the 6 to say 20 ft leader lengths I'm using it in, and coming off a bulk spool,
whatever 'memory' it may have, is inconsequential.
A-Jay
If you’ve tried stren, would you say big game is superior?
garroyo130 reply :
Can't complain about Yo Zuri Hybrid as a leader. Then again Im a firm believer its the best bang for your buck line around.
WRB reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:43 AM, Johnpenguin said:Ya I never use “leader line”. I started using fc sniper as a leader and it wasn’t terrible but mono is the way to go most of the time.
Isn’t that pretty thick?
What lb test are you using?
Tom
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:24 PM, WRB said:What lb test are you using?
Tom
I like 14, 12, 10, and 8
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:05 PM, Johnpenguin said:If you’ve tried stren, would you say big game is superior?
I have used Stren.
First time was a while back - gas was 33 cents a gallon.
At that time it was a mainline only and it was decent.
I haven't used anything made by Stren in several years.
Big game is very reasonably priced and
does everything I need it to do as a leader in tests between 8 and 12 lbs.
A-Jay
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:26 PM, A-Jay said:I have used Stren.
First time was a while back - gas was 33 cents a gallon.
At that time it was a mainline only and it was decent.
I haven't used anything made by Stren in several years.
Big game is very reasonably priced and
does everything I need it to do as a leader in tests between 8 and 12 lbs.
A-Jay
Ya I’m definitely going to try big game in 8 and 14
jbsoonerfan reply :
Back when I was in college and "Bassin on a Budget" I used Big Game and thought it was made from unicorn hair. I threw 12lb on one rod and reel and it was a "Texas rig/crankbait/spinnerbait/topwater" machine. But that was back when I was fishing for food as well LOL.
WRB reply :
Select your line by equal diameter to Stren.
I would follow AJays advice and try 8 lb and 12 lb.
Tom
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:41 PM, jbsoonerfan said:Back when I was in college and "Bassin on a Budget" I used Big Game and thought it was made from unicorn hair. I threw 12lb on one rod and reel and it was a "Texas rig/crankbait/spinnerbait/topwater" machine. But that was back when I was fishing for food as well LOL.
Ya that’s kinda where I am right now. young dumb and broke
jimmyjoe reply :
I use the crazy alberto knot as a leader knot. Stren is too soft in the heat of summer, and the knot evidently cuts into itself. I say evidently because all I know is that the leader knot breaks. If I use Big Game or Yo-Zuri Hybrid, the knot is OK. Now this isn't setting the hook on a fish. This is pulling off a snag. I've never had a knot let go from setting a hook or fighting a fish in unobstructed water.
Fighting a fish (pike) in shallow water close to shore is another story, but there are myriad things that can go wrong there. That's a different world. jj
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:43 PM, WRB said:Select your line by equal diameter to Stren.
I would follow AJays advice and try 8 lb and 12 lb.
Tom
I like to be safe with 14
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:44 PM, Johnpenguin said:young dumb and stupid
Don't feel bad. I'm old, dumb and stupid. But the more I hang around here, the smarter I get. It happens slow, but it still happens. I like that. ???? jj
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:47 PM, jimmyjoe said:Don't feel bad. I'm old, dumb and stupid. But the more I hang around here, the smarter I get. It happens slow, but it still happens. I like that. ???? jj
Ya I do have to say I’ve learned so much in the past couple years. Honestly I’m just glad I choose this route over video games.
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:45 PM, Johnpenguin said:I like to be safe with 14
Big Game jumps from 12 to 15 lb. test. jj
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:49 PM, jimmyjoe said:Big Game jumps from 12 to 15 lb. test. jj
In that case I might have to stay with stren. Like I said before I’ve never had an issue. Don’t leave fish to find fish right?
WRB reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:45 PM, Johnpenguin said:I like to be safe with 14
Berkley doesn't make 14 lb, they make 8, 10, 12 and 15 lb.
12 lb Big Game is stronger then 14 lb Stren.
Tom
waymont reply :
McCoy clear for me.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 1:19 PM, WRB said:Berkley doesn't make 14 lb, they make 8, 10, 12 and 15 lb.
12 lb Big Game is stronger then 14 lb Stren.
Tom
I don’t know how that’s possible.
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
Big Game > Stren
Simple math
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 10:41 PM, Johnpenguin said:I don’t know how that’s possible.
It's all about line diameter.
Brands do not use the same standards for measure.
The 12 BG is apparently the same diameter as the 14 Stren.
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Berkley_Trilene_Big_Game_Line_Green/descpage-BTBG.html
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Stren_Original_Monofilament_Line_Clear/descpage-BOM.html
A-Jay
Todd2 reply :
Mono wise, I've used mainly Stren and Big Game for the last few years.
Both are fine. For leader material I'd give the nod to BG.
Pros
Big Game - Very cheap and strong
Stren - Handles a little better on spinning gear, comes in clear Blue and strong.
Team9nine reply :
Ditto @Todd2 Been using Stren for open water applications for the past 6-9 months and been very happy with its performance. If you are fishing around a lot of heavy cover, timber, dock posts, etc., then try Big Game. Either should work fine.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 11:19 PM, Todd2 said:Mono wise, I've used mainly Stren and Big Game for the last few years.
Both are fine. For leader material I'd give the nod to BG.
Pros
Big Game - Very cheap and strong
Stren - Handles a little better on spinning gear, comes in clear Blue and strong.
So bg on baitcasters and stren on spinning
WRB reply :
Notice that Stren is not made by DuPont, they sold the USA plant to Vicious several years ago. DuPont built a Nylon production plant in Brazil and no longer extrudes fishing fine.
What is line strength? To bass anglers it is first knot strength, then impact strength and abrasion resistance strength after the line has been fished with, not tested off a fresh spool.
Original Stren was iridescent blue color to reduce UV degradation and has low memory with low abrasion resistance. Softer mono line has lower memory, harder line higher memory having equal diameters. Diameter equals area that directly affects material strength in pounds per square inch or PSI. All Nylon monofilament lines are nearly equal in PSI strength, not equal in how they are blended for hardness or UV resistance to reduce sunlight degradation and water absorbsion.
Maxima Ultra Green is a copolymer line with very high abrasion resistance with excellent knot strength and impact per diameter and the reason I use 5 lb Max UG for finesse, however larger sizes has higher memory.
Big game has very good knot strength and abrasion resistant and excellent impact strength with good memory properties, not available in 6 lb test or less.
Stren Original today is different then DuPont Stren, softer line with less knot strength, abrasion and impact strength compared Big Game or Maxima.
The only mono line I know that has reduced memory, high knot strength and abrasion resistance today is Sunline Defier Armillo Nylon, it isn't available under 11 lb test* and has a higher price point.
Memory using line as a leader isn't an issue because the line isn't stored on a small diameter reel spool where line takes a set. Memory becomes a problem on spinning reels creating coils comming off the reel spool. You need larger diameter reel spool to reduce line memory. If you use mono, Coploymer or FC as a main line on spinning reels sizes 1000 to 3000 the line should be .010 diameter or less to manage memory.
Tom
* Armillo 11 lb is .0108 dia , both Big Game and Stren 8 lb is .011 dia for comparison.
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 12:00 AM, Johnpenguin said:So bg on baitcasters and stren on spinning
The 8lb Big Game works well enough on spinning reels, but you can make a wicker basket from the 10lb and up sizes.
Todd2 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 12:58 AM, redmeansdistortion said:The 8lb Big Game works well enough on spinning reels, but you can make a wicker basket from the 10lb and up sizes.
But it'd be a strong and cheap wicker basket.????
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 1:11 AM, Todd2 said:But it'd be a strong and cheap wicker basket.????
Indeed. I typically use 8, 10, and 12lb Big Game for leader material and sometimes run them as my main line when it's winter steelhead season, like right now for instance.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 12:46 AM, WRB said:Notice that Stren is not made by DuPont, they sold the USA plant to Vicious several years ago. DuPont built a Nylon production plant in Brazil and no longer extrudes fishing fine.
What is line strength? To bass anglers it is first knot strength, then impact strength and abrasion resistance strength after the line has been fished with, not tested off a fresh spool.
Original Stren was iridescent blue color to reduce UV degradation and has low memory with low abrasion resistance. Softer mono line has lower memory, harder line higher memory having equal diameters. Diameter equals area that directly affects material strength in pounds per square inch or PSI. All Nylon monofilament lines are nearly equal in PSI strength, not equal in how they are blended for hardness or UV resistance to reduce sunlight degradation and water absorbsion.
Maxima Ultra Green is a copolymer line with very high abrasion resistance with excellent knot strength and impact per diameter and the reason I use 5 lb Max UG for finesse, however larger sizes has higher memory.
Big game has very good knot strength and abrasion resistant and excellent impact strength with good memory properties, not available in 6 lb test or less.
Stren Original today is different then DuPont Stren, softer line with less knot strength, abrasion and impact strength compared Big Game or Maxima.
The only mono line I know that has reduced memory, us high knot strength and abrasion resistance today is Sunline Defier Armillo Nylon, it isn't available under 11 lb test and has a higher price point.
Memory using line as a leader isn't an issue because the line isn't stored on a small diameter reel spool where line takes a set. Memory becomes a problem on spinning reels creating coils comming off the reel spool. You need larger diameter reel spool to reduce line memory. If you use mono, Coploymer or FC as a main line on spinning reels sizes 1000 to 3000 the line should be .010 diameter or less to manage memory.
Tom
Would you say that 12lb big game has better knot strength than 14lb stren?
iabass8 reply :
Sunline Defier Armillo
WRB reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 1:44 AM, Johnpenguin said:Would you say that 12lb big game has better knot strength than 14lb stren?
Definately! 4 of my top 5 PB bass were caught using 10 and 12 lb Big Game,1 using 10 lb Trilene XT. Mono lines are very foregiving with knot strength and easy to attain close to 100% knot strength using common knots.
Tom
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 3:52 AM, WRB said:Definately! 4 of my top 5 PB bass were caught using 10 and 12 lb Big Game,1 using 10 lb Trilene XT. Mono lines are very foregiving with knot strength and easy to attain close to 100% knot strength using common knots.
Tom
I’m going to try it out. Hopefully I don’t lose fish because of the 2lb difference.
rcjoutdoors reply :
Big Game or CXX copoly for me
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 3:58 AM, Johnpenguin said:I’m going to try it out. Hopefully I don’t lose fish because of the 2lb difference.
You'll be fine. I've caught a lot of fish on 8lb Big Game, from large thrashing pike to 15lb+ steelhead trying to lose me in the logjams. The line is super tough and should work well for you.
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 3:58 AM, Johnpenguin said:I’m going to try it out. Hopefully I don’t lose fish because of the 2lb difference.
You might lose lures due to the 2lb difference. If you lose fish the problem isnt a 2 lb difference.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 4:42 AM, garroyo130 said:You might lose lures due to the 2lb difference. If you lose fish the problem isnt a 2 lb difference.
I don’t understand?
mc6524 reply :
If I may take a step back here. For regular leader to connect to braid, I’d suggest fluorocarbon line. Mine line of choice is Yozuri topknot. If you are Carolina rigging to braid mono is in order and I suggest suffix advanced. Please keep in mind for finesse fishing 6-10# leader is usually the best and especially if you are fishing clear water, using the same 6-10# mono leader weight for your Carolina rig would be in order.
I grew upping trilene big game before fluro came out and loved it, but frankly unless your flipping big cover IMO it’s overkill.
APK62 reply :
My question is why do most pro's use braid with a leader? Even all the young guns coming up are using it. Myself I don't care for two knots, it makes tying a leader a time consuming project when your on the boat getting bombarded with waves. Even with a neg rig, you are going to get hung up on rocks, etc. and break off. Never had an issue using straight FC or mono.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 5:42 AM, mc6524 said:If I may take a step back here. For regular leader to connect to braid, I’d suggest fluorocarbon line. Mine line of choice is Yozuri topknot. If you are Carolina rigging to braid mono is in order and I suggest suffix advanced. Please keep in mind for finesse fishing 6-10# leader is usually the best and especially if you are fishing clear water, using the same 6-10# mono leader weight for your Carolina rig would be in order.
I grew upping trilene big game before fluro came out and loved it, but frankly unless your flipping big cover IMO it’s overkill.
I started with fluoro and I can honestly say mono is waaaay better as leader material.
On 2/22/2020 at 7:29 AM, APK62 said:My question is why do most pro's use braid with a leader? Even all the young guns coming up are using it. Myself I don't care for two knots, it makes tying a leader a time consuming project when your on the boat getting bombarded with waves. Even with a neg rig, you are going to get hung up on rocks, etc. and break off. Never had an issue using straight FC or mono.
Pros like to land their fish????
Dens228 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 7:29 AM, APK62 said:My question is why do most pro's use braid with a leader? Even all the young guns coming up are using it. Myself I don't care for two knots, it makes tying a leader a time consuming project when your on the boat getting bombarded with waves. Even with a neg rig, you are going to get hung up on rocks, etc. and break off. Never had an issue using straight FC or mono.
With practice you can tie a braid to leader know very easily. I have never had that second knot for the connection be a failure point.
APK62 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 7:47 PM, Johnpenguin said:I started with fluoro and I can honestly say mono is waaaay better as leader material.
Pros like to land their fish????
Why not use straight mono?
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 10:03 PM, APK62 said:Why not use straight mono?
Because braid is more resistant to wind knots etc.. because of lack of memory.
Bdnoble84 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 5:23 AM, Johnpenguin said:I don’t understand?
As stated earlier, manufacturer designated line test specs are inconsistent. It is part of marketing. Some brands use line test designation similar to braid line test designation. (50lb breaking strength braid has a 12lb dia.) same with some manufactures mono/copoly. They may post a breaking strength of 12lbs, but really the breaking strength may be 15. What they are really. Referring to is the line dia is equivalent to 12lb mono of some sort of percieved standard.
secondly as mentioned above, so much of landing a fish is dictated by your ability to fight said fish, not the breaking strength of the line. What heavier line does is give us a larger margin of error around cover as well as allow us to be more hasty in bringing the fish in.
there are so many confounding variables in fish landing beyond line strength that it would not be feasible to go through them all.
pits fishing, not catching. There is a lot of trial and error to eliminate variables and determine what works best for you. Plus experimenting is just fun. Try big game if you are curious. The risk is a lot less than you think and you might just find a new favorite.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 10:03 PM, APK62 said:Why not use straight mono?
Zero sensitivity
On 2/22/2020 at 11:56 PM, Bdnoble84 said:As stated earlier, manufacturer designated line test specs are inconsistent. It is part of marketing. Some brands use line test designation similar to braid line test designation. (50lb breaking strength braid has a 12lb dia.) same with some manufactures mono/copoly. They may post a breaking strength of 12lbs, but really the breaking strength may be 15. What they are really. Referring to is the line dia is equivalent to 12lb mono of some sort of percieved standard.
secondly as mentioned above, so much of landing a fish is dictated by your ability to fight said fish, not the breaking strength of the line. What heavier line does is give us a larger margin of error around cover as well as allow us to be more hasty in bringing the fish in.
there are so many confounding variables in fish landing beyond line strength that it would not be feasible to go through them all.
pits fishing, not catching. There is a lot of trial and error to eliminate variables and determine what works best for you. Plus experimenting is just fun. Try big game if you are curious. The risk is a lot less than you think and you might just find a new favorite.
Ya I’m definitely going to give it a try
Russ E reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 12:34 AM, Johnpenguin said:Zero sensitivity
Ya I’m definitely going to give it a try
The zero sensitivity is simply not true.
It is true, on a tightline braid is more sensitive than mono or fluorocarbon.
On a slack or semi slack line braid has the zero sensitivity. In this instance fluoro is best, mono second, braid is a distant third.
On most vertical baits. Jigs, Texas rig, wacky rig, etc. The line is often partially slack as the bait falls.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 1:34 AM, Russ E said:The zero sensitivity is simply not true.
It is true, on a tightline braid is more sensitive than mono or fluorocarbon.
On a slack or semi slack line braid has the zero sensitivity. In this instance fluroo is best, mono second, braid is a distant third.
On most vertical baits. Jigs, Texas rig, wacky rig, etc. The line is often partially slack as the bait falls.
Agree to disagree
APK62 reply :
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 5:23 AM, Johnpenguin said:I don’t understand?
If 2lb heavier line would have kept a fish from snapping your line, your drag is way too tight.
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 3:58 AM, Johnpenguin said:I’m going to try it out. Hopefully I don’t lose fish because of the 2lb difference.
There is no 2 lb. difference. That's what we've been trying to tell you.
It's all just rating hype. There is no "government standard". Some manufacturers take 15 lb. line and sell it as 10 lb. line, knowing that some people will say, "Wow! This is the best and strongest 10 lb. line I've ever seen!" People who fish constantly know how lines react, and they know the practical ways to find out what the line characteristics are. Those little bits of information are NOT found in a book, or a magazine, or an interview with the marketing director of a line company.
You find them out by fishing.
You can find out the basics of fishing from the internet, but the fine details take experience.
And no, monofilament nylon doesn't have "zero sensitivity". It's less than braid, but it's good enough that it's been catching bass (including record-breakers) for many years.
So c'mon .....spool up some Big Game, as a leader or otherwise, slap on a lure and let's go catch some bass! ???????????????????? jj
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 3:58 AM, jimmyjoe said:There is no 2 lb. difference. That's what we've been trying to tell you.
It's all just rating hype. There is no "government standard". Some manufacturers take 15 lb. line and sell it as 10 lb. line, knowing that some people will say, "Wow! This is the best and strongest 10 lb. line I've ever seen!" People who fish constantly know how lines react, and they know the practical ways to find out what the line characteristics are. Those little bits of information are NOT found in a book, or a magazine, or an interview with the marketing director of a line company.
You find them out by fishing.
You can find out the basics of fishing from the internet, but the fine details take experience.
And no, monofilament nylon doesn't have "zero sensitivity". It's less than braid, but it's good enough that it's been catching bass (including record-breakers) for many years.
So c'mon .....spool up some Big Game, as a leader or otherwise, slap on a lure and let's go catch some bass! ???????????????????? jj
Both statements were supposed to be jokes. I guess I’m never gonna be a stand up comedian
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 5:26 AM, Johnpenguin said:Both statements were supposed to be jokes. I guess I’m never gonna be a stand up comedian
Yeah, me too. My humor is off-the-wall, but I learned to use emojis. They help. ???? jj
mc6524 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 7:47 PM, Johnpenguin said:I started with fluoro and I can honestly say mono is waaaay better as leader material.
Pros like to land their fish????
Mono floats, mono stretches, mono can been seen by the fish better. I guess I’m at a loss as to why you think mono is better. The only situation todwhere mono is better is with the Carolina rig where you want the bait to float easier and mono will help with that.
Bassguytom reply :
I also started using Yo Zuri Hybrid last year and love it. I have spools of 6, 8 and 10 lb. that make all the leaders I need.
new2BC4bass reply :
No expert here with a leader either. Seldom use one. But why worry about memory in a leader? Personally if using a leader, I am worried about abrasion resistance. From my reading it appears Big Game, CXX and Platinum are excellent in this category. Also from my reading regular leader material purchased in those small spools ...round 25 yards...is supposed to be even better for use as a leader.
Hope so as I took the word of a fellow member and purchased some P-Line Shinsei for my Ned Rig. I quickly learned fine diameter braid is worthless when it comes to abrasion resistance. Hopefully this solves the problem.
EDIT: Better work as I could buy a 330 yard of my favorite line for about what I paid or the leader material spool.
papajoe222 reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 12:05 PM, Johnpenguin said:If you’ve tried stren, would you say big game is superior?
For leader material, YES. Abrasion resistance is about the same, but as unscientific as it may sound, for me, it transmits more information back to me.
papajoe222 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 7:29 AM, APK62 said:My question is why do most pro's use braid with a leader?
Because no one type of line gives you the benefits of two lines. Braid is awesome, but cuts easily and freys easily. Fluoro and mono stretch and aren’t close to braid when it comes to sensitivity. Want a line that combines braids sensitivity and the abrasion resistance of mono or flouro, a combination is the answer.
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 7:23 AM, mc6524 said:Mono floats, mono stretches, mono can been seen by the fish better. I guess I’m at a loss as to why you think mono is better. The only situation todwhere mono is better is with the Carolina rig where you want the bait to float easier and mono will help with that.
Mono as a leader is very forgiving when you get a fish close to the boat. Knot strength is typically better with mono. Mono visibility really does not matter unless you are in crystal clear water.
On 2/23/2020 at 8:52 AM, new2BC4bass said:No expert here with a leader either. Seldom use one. But why worry about memory in a leader? Personally if using a leader, I am worried about abrasion resistance. From my reading it appears Big Game, CXX and Platinum are excellent in this category. Also from my reading regular leader material purchased in those small spools ...round 25 yards...is supposed to be even better for use as a leader.
Hope so as I took the word of a fellow member and purchased some P-Line Shinsei for my Ned Rig. I quickly learned fine diameter braid is worthless when it comes to abrasion resistance. Hopefully this solves the problem.
EDIT: Better work as I could buy a 330 yard of my favorite line for about what I paid or the leader material spool.
Ya the memory doesn’t really matter
On 2/23/2020 at 9:55 AM, papajoe222 said:Because no one type of line gives you the benefits of two lines. Braid is awesome, but cuts easily and freys easily. Fluoro and mono stretch and aren’t close to braid when it comes to sensitivity. Want a line that combines braids sensitivity and the abrasion resistance of mono or flouro, a combination is the answer.
Well said
Chief250 reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 7:29 AM, APK62 said:My question is why do most pro's use braid with a leader? Even all the young guns coming up are using it. Myself I don't care for two knots, it makes tying a leader a time consuming project when your on the boat getting bombarded with waves. Even with a neg rig, you are going to get hung up on rocks, etc. and break off. Never had an issue using straight FC or mono.
I see the majority of pros in bass and Mlf using straight floruo
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 12:53 PM, Chief250 said:I see the majority of pros in bass and Mlf using straight floruo
????
Patrick Reif reply :
P-Line CXX in 12 to 15 lbs test depending on what I'm doing. If I have to go heavier than that, I just spool straight P-ine Cxx 20# or above.
I've tried a lot of different lines to include overpriced flouro, and I keep coming back to P-Line.
I tie it to braid with a modified Albright knot and then super glue the knot as added assurance...I'm anal like that.
I rarely use more than a 6' leader
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 1:04 PM, Patrick Reif said:P-Line CXX in 12 to 15 lbs test depending on what I'm doing. If I have to go heavier than that, I just spool straight P-ine Cxx 20# or above.
I've tried a lot of different lines to include overpriced flouro, and I keep coming back to P-Line.
I tie it to braid with a modified Albright knot and then super glue the knot as added assurance...I'm anal like that.
I rarely use more than a 6' leader
Never heard of something like that
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 1:11 PM, Johnpenguin said:Never heard of something like that
Never heard of what?
He spoke of 3 things; 1) the P-line, 2) super-gluing the knot, and 3) only using a 6-ft leader. To which were you referring? jj
Johnpenguin reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 1:40 PM, jimmyjoe said:
Never heard of what?
He spoke of 3 things; 1) the P-line, 2) super-gluing the knot, and 3) only using a 6-ft leader. To which were you referring? jj
Super gluing a knot...
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 1:43 PM, Johnpenguin said:Super gluing a knot...
When I first came to this forum, I benefited from searching the older threads. There were lots of things that I had never heard of. Some of those ideas that were strange then are second nature to me now. It was (and is) a profitable pastime. jj
mc6524 reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 8:52 AM, new2BC4bass said:No expert here with a leader either. Seldom use one. But why worry about memory in a leader? Personally if using a leader, I am worried about abrasion resistance. From my reading it appears Big Game, CXX and Platinum are excellent in this category. Also from my reading regular leader material purchased in those small spools ...round 25 yards...is supposed to be even better for use as a leader.
Hope so as I took the word of a fellow member and purchased some P-Line Shinsei for my Ned Rig. I quickly learned fine diameter braid is worthless when it comes to abrasion resistance. Hopefully this solves the problem.
EDIT: Better work as I could buy a 330 yard of my favorite line for about what I paid or the leader material spool.
IMO you get what you pay for. There are very good inexpensive fluro line ps out there. For me, the best is Yozuri top knot. For me, it has little memory, and you can get a spool on sale for around $10.00.
i use two different knots with fluro and I’ve not had a knot problem. I use the fish n fool and polymer knot. Please remember that mono can have memory problems as well.
APK62 reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 12:53 PM, Chief250 said:I see the majority of pros in bass and Mlf using straight floruo
On baitcasters yes
Chief250 reply :
On 2/23/2020 at 8:36 PM, APK62 said:On baitcasters yes
But why?
APK62 reply :
On 2/24/2020 at 1:34 AM, Chief250 said:But why?
Easier to handle. No line twist
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/24/2020 at 2:07 AM, APK62 said:No line twist
The first time I used #5 Mepps spinners for a good interval, this became obvious. I like it.
Every line has its advantages and its disadvantages. Ya pays ya money, ya takes ya pick. jj
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