Piscifun Viper X Spinning Reel - Ultralight 5.2:1/6.2:1 High Speed Fishing Spinning Reel, 10+1BB, Carbon Fiber 33 LB Max Drag, 500, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000 Series review and price compare 2025

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Brand	Piscifun
Material	Stainless Steel, Graphite
Hand Orientation	Ambidextrous
Handle Material	Stainless Steel
Item Weight	8.4 Ounces
Bearing Material	Stainless Steel

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Lighter & Stronger - Based on high quality graphite material, new mould technology was applied for the Viper X fish reel on frame and rotor. This makes the Viper X spinning reels lighter and more stylish while ensuring the overall strength.
Multiple Retrieves - The Piscifun Viper X spinning reel features a lightning fast 6.2:1 gear ratio as well as a buttery smooth 5.2:1 in our 500,1000 and 5000 model. These 2 gear ratios are the perfect combination, the high speed retrieve helps every angler battle the strong, fast runs of the biggest fish and the moderate speed is perfect for finessing in your next trophy.
Smooth & Consistent - Double shielded 10+1 stainless steel bearings provide incredible smoothness for the Viper X fishing spinning reels. The reinforced stainless steel main shaft and Zinc alloy drive gear paired with carbon washers give you smoother and more consistent performance, no more stuck or line breaking.
Increased Waterproof - Innovative Waterproof Tech including the one way clutch bushing, one way clutch plate, stainless steel washer and shielded stainless steel bearing, prevents water and dirt from entering the house. Greatly helpful to keep the best performance for your Viper X spinning reel.
Unbeatable Affordable - Tiny details highlight premium quality. Such as the high density EVA knob, CNC machined braid ready spool and exquisite plating accessories etc. The best feature is the unbeatable affordable price, Piscifun is dedicated to offering high quality, affordably priced fishing reels backed by outstanding Customer Service.

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NEW 2021 Piscifun Viper X Spinning Fishing Reel is Faster Stronger, Smoother and Lighter !


The high abrasion resistance carbon drag washers give you consistent drag, no more stuck or line breaking.	The strong & precise teeth on the gear give you stable and solid power transition even on the big fish fight.	Provide buttery smooth performance, increase corrosion resistance and better retrieve.


The anti-slippery braid ready spool saves you much time by tying your fishing line without backing and keeps your line in position all the time.	Prevents dirt and gunk from getting inside of the drag, greatly increases the corrosion resistance and extends the drag durability.	The Viper X spinning fishing reel is with high density EVA knob which comfortable and anti-slip control even in wettest condition.

The Piscifun Viper X lightweight spinning reel boasts a high strength graphite body, rotor and side cover for strong performance and reliability that you demand on the water when chasing BIG fish. It also features a braid-ready aluminum spool, which is highlighted by its stark green accents throughout, making it the perfect pairing for any saltwater or freshwater set up.

You found the fish, you set the hook and the battle is on! The last thing you want to worry about is your drag system and if it is the saltwater spinning reel. Don’t worry, the Viper X ultralight spinning reel has your back in both fresh and saltwater featuring the O-Ring Sealed, Carbon Fiber Drag system! This means your drag will remain stable and durable for a long time to come. As if this wasn’t enough, we outfitted the Viper X with 10+1 Double Shielded Stainless Steel Bearings to ensure the smoothest operation with every revolution of the handle.

Piscifun is a fishing brand offering high-quality and affordable fishing products for novice and professional anglers alike. Our goal is to provide you with quality gear that won’t break the bank, so you can enjoy the sport of fishing with your loved ones…

We believe in our slogan “FISH WITH FAMILY”.

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Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 33 Pounds
Date First Available ‏ : ‎ October 24, 2020
Manufacturer ‏ : ‎ Piscifun
ASIN ‏ : ‎ B08LSHZ4LY

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Questions about Piscifun Viper X Spinning Reel - Ultralight 5.2:1/6.2:1 High Speed Fishing Spinning Reel, 10+1BB, Carbon Fiber 33 LB Max Drag, 500, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000 Series

Screw in handle?

Answer: Insert in Handle.

Is the 2000 size reel ok for inshore fishing?

Answer: I think this reel is more for fresh water and light line. I would look for a heavier reel myself....

Answer: Too small, 3000 or 4000. I bought the 3000 and put 10lb braid on it.

Answer: Yes it is OK.

Answer: Yes I catch 4 to 6 lb trout with 2 lb test line with no problems

What is the line capacity on the 3000 and 4000 models for braided line?

Answer: 20lb/165yd for 3000 Braid: 30lb/270yd for 4000

What is difference in the viper and carbon x series?

Answer: The Carbon X is made from carbon fiber, so it is lighter than the Viper I believe. The Carbon is also rated for Saltwater. I have both, and like them both. I think the Viper has the biggest size option though.

Answer: Size, weight (the carbon x is considerably lighter) & sealed three carbon disc drag.

Does the bale automatically flips shut or do u have to manually bring bale over

Answer: The bail flips smoothly flips over immediately at the first turn of the handle.

Answer: Its hard to flip it shut but it will . I always close my bails by hand when the line goes slack .

Answer: It’s AUTOMATIC and a very nice reel

Answer: It does but with any spinning reel you should flip it by hand. It will keep your line from twisting.

Answer: The bale closes one the handle is turned...or auto....

Answer: You can do it either way, i personally click em over manually

Can the handle side be changed

Answer: If you're asking about switching from left to right hand or the opposite, yes! It can. Just simply twist the knob on the opposite side of the handle to counterclockwise (open) and the handle should come off, "then change it".

Answer: Sure，it could be changed as your requirements

Answer: Yes

Answer: Yes.

How do I get spare spools for a viper x 3000

Answer: Hi Tony...I am retired, with free time, so I did a google search. Piscifun has their own web site , where you can buy the spare spool for $12.99 ! You are welcome, glad to help! I just googled ( Piscifun Viper 3000 spare spool)

Answer: Please search “Piscifun Customer Service” online to find the way to CONTACT US or reach out to us through your order. Our standard for responding to email quests is within 24 hours and we will take care of you once we get your message.

where are these made?

Answer: China. Company is located there as well. Offices in Beijing and in Hong Kong.

Answer: Looks and works great

Which one will fit for abu garcia cardinal bruiser 8'?

Answer: Sure

Does this handle fold in for storage?

Answer: I believe you have to remove the handle it does not fold

Answer: Handle folds - and can be switched from side to side.

Answer: Yes just loosen retaining screw from the other side and the handle folds up

Answer: Yes it does fold for storage.

Answer: You could unscrew it and remove it, It is threaded into the reel, but that is also what makes it feel so solid and tight. I highly recommend all Piscifun products, they are exceptional values and my go to reels.

Answer: Yes, I believe so. I ended up returning the reel I purchased.

Answer: No. It’s poor quality

Answer: No it does not !

Answer: No

Is this for saltwater?

Answer: It is shielded 10+1 stainless steel bearings, you could try.

Would this pair well with a 7 foot ugly stick for surf and bridge fishing? (We go to Florida once a year for a few weeks)Thanks!!!

Answer: It is a little small for bridge and surf fishing, I bought it for a 7.5ft st croix for backbay/offshore and it does not have the depth I was hoping for with regards to holding 15lb test

Answer: I use it in my acc crappie stik it’s very light and smoothe I had to order more

How does the 4000 compare to pfluger president

Answer: I don’t use a 4000 series reels but the 1000 viper seems to be as good as a Pfluger .

Answer: The Pfluger president cost more and I think it is a better reel but for the money Piscifun Viper X isn't a bad reel.

Answer: The pfluger reel is excellent. The piscifun reel is a little smother but I just started using them.

Will this reel stand up to spring chinook and summer steelhead? Looking at the 4000 series

Answer: In my camper, listening to the 2:00 am rain on the Hoh River in the Olympic National Park. Here fishing for the big wild, winter run Steelhead. Can’t honestly say how well the Viper 4000 will do on the summer runs. I do have faith that it can handle the job though! It was the reel I used all day, yesterday! No strikes... typical for the fish of a thousand casts!

Answer: I don’t see why not. However, I’d be more inclined to purchase the Carbon X from piscifun if you want a drag system that can stand up to the long hard runs big Chinooks are notorious for.

Is this reel saltwater approved?

Answer: The reel could be used in saltwater, but please clean in time after using in saltwater。

does the 4000 have the power knob on handle??

Answer: I don't know about the 4000, but the 500 does not. Also, the 500 doesn't have the lever to put it in free spool. It's not a bad reel, but not in the same class as a Shimano or Daiwa.

Answer: The reel has a power knob.

Answer: No it doesnt.

what are the dimensions of the reel

Answer: They are the same size as a Shimano 2500 . Don't waste your money these reels are not worth the money. My first hour of using this reel it started to feel like the bearings have flat spots in them . Started out smooth got rougher the more I used it, got to the point where I quit using it altogether.

Answer: There are 6 different size Reels. 500 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 models. 500 being the smallest ultra lite type reel.

Answer: Weight depends on the size (see Piscifun's chart). I'm not sure how much the size of the reel changes between sizes. I have the 2000 size -- it's the only Viper that I have actually seen.

I see the frame is graphite, when mounted on the rod and reeling under tension does reel have flex? Hate when a reel does that.

Answer: No it doesn't flex . I have caught a 10 pound catfish and many large and small mouth bass up to 6 pounds and the reel never flexed I also have the reel on a heavy/medium rod . Also make sure the drag is not too tight cause when I got mine it would be very hard to flip it closed with the handle

Answer: Please no worries, the intensity of graphite is enough to keep it as normal, the reel would not flex.

Answer: I found that there was no flex in the reel when fishing.

Answer: Mine does flex, but not so much that I have found it to be a problem.

Does this one have a reverse lock

Answer: 2000、3000、 4000、and 5000 have reverse lock

Which model is best for big catfish?

Answer: Anything over 15 pounds I think personally would be better on a 3 or 4

What is the line capacity of the 5000 reel?

Answer: Mono line capacity 14lbs/230yds 18lbs/yds 20lbs/185yds. Braid Capacity 40lbs/260yds 45lbs/240yds 50lbs/230yds

Answer: It is 40lbs Braid at 260 yards or 14lb Mono at 230 yards. Hope that helps!

Would the 4000 with mono be good for largemouth bass

Answer: On a balanced rod, with mono or braid plus a leader, the 4000 ought to work well for tossing pretty heavy lures and weighted live bait to largemouth bass. I'd prefer braid in heavy cover; but, the reel itself (on a balanced rod) ought to work well. I have the 2000 loaded with 6 lb fluorocarbon for fishing for largemouth now -- no heavy cover here in Michigan yet!

Answer: Yes, the 4000 with mono could used for larege mouth bass. But the 2000 and 3000 is much better.

Answer: Absolutely. I use it for catfish, so that reel will definitely handle largemouth.

Answer: I would recommend the 2000. It is all you will need. 10 lbs.

Answer: I would go with the 3000 model.

Answer: Yes, it would be fine.

What kind of rod do you recommend with either a 4000 or 5000 for saltwater fishing?

Answer: I purchase the 1000 reel.

Can i just buy the screw that holds the handle on . I bought this reel its awesome but lost that part?

Answer: Please be free to contact us through your order. One of our colleague will take good care of you.

Answer: I would think so if you contacted Piscifun online, you could probably order one. I'm not sure though.

Which reel would be best for inshore trout fishing?

Answer: I think that it makes more sense to focus first on the rod that would be suitable for the sort of fishing that you want to do, and then select a reel that balances well with the rod. My view.

Is this reel good for crappie fishing ?

Answer: I have used this in the 1000 and 2000 size with 8 lb test and caught many crappies and other panfish. The reel is very smooth and has great drag adjustability. I hope this helps.

Answer: I got the 4000 size for spinners, for Steelhead. It is a beautiful reel, smooth and solid! I imagine a smaller size would be more suited to crappie. I love mine and wholeheartedly recommend it!

Answer: It is a great reel for all types of panfish.

Answer: Yes! It will handle crappie no problem. You can land some big fish with it.

Does this one have a reverse lock?

Answer: No

All the viper reel models are pretty much saltwater tolerable right?

Answer: Vipper X has increased Waterproof performance including the one way clutch bushing, one way clutch plate, stainless steel washer and shielded stainless steel bearing, prevents water and dirt from entering the house.

Product reviews of Piscifun Viper X Spinning Reel - Ultralight 5.2:1/6.2:1 High Speed Fishing Spinning Reel, 10+1BB, Carbon Fiber 33 LB Max Drag, 500, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000 Series

Rico Martinez : 100 series is perfect ultralight setup !

Wow this is a great little real. I purchased this reel as a microlight set up. The reel is super light but has a punch I can cast a mile and pull in the big ones. I pulled in a decent size bass and some trout. The reel is smooth. I recommend this reel.

Amazon Customer : Well built

I bought a 3 of 1000 for my crappie rods. They worked perfectly! Smooth like butter! We'll see how it'll hold up the bitting!

Amazon Customer : The smoothness

Awesome reel. Super smooth and light weight especially at the price point. You would expect this reel to cost you 5 times more but it does not. Awesome reel at an even better value. Will order more in the future.

andrew berman : Great reel, super smooth

Great price for the quality of reel that you get, reel is very smooth and drag is s as well, the reel is so light weight you can hardly tell it’s there.

Shopping was very fast, the sheer quality of this reel is superior to that of more expensive brands

Larry : Nice

Using the 1000 size on an 8' ACC Crappie Stix and it works quite nicely

SZimmie : Smooth

The Viper 500 ultra light reel is an excellent value. Very smooth, and I like the zero play in the handle. The bail is a little stiff, and the 5:2 ratio takes some getting used to, but otherwise it’s a great little reel.

Johnny & Kathy Coker : Economical cost and super smooth!

Absolutely love this reel! I’ve bought a lot of cheap reels and end up putting them in the junk bucket. This reel is smooth as glass and I can’t believe the price. I now have a favorite brand, it’s Piscifun.

john s. : Spinning Reel

The spinning reel was economical and works well

Amazon Customer : Great little reel

I just retired so I have more time to do fun stuff. Finally getting back into fishing. I already owned another Piscifun reel for saltwater, so I need something for trout fishing streams. Took this reel to northern California and did some fishing for the weekend. Not problems with it. Caught a ton of fish (released most).
The price is fantastic. My brother and his friends are all getting this same reel. Great product.

Janine &Chris M : Descent reel but its got a clunk n grind must have a bad gear.

Nice drag but clunks n grinds when u reel it

Larry : Sheerness, lite weight good buy

Light weight and durability

Ryan Repke : Best in class 10/10

I live in Minnesota and fish a lot. I test a lot of different fishing products and this reel rates best in class. I purchased it for icefishing. Two big selling points for this reel is the weight and price. You will not find a better reel for a cheaper price, I guarantee that. Piscifun spinning reels are 1 step ahead of the competition. The carbon x and viper x are the REEL DEAL.

Matthew S. : Only 1 Problem...

This is a great real, at a decent price. I have brought it kayaking on multiple day journeys and it has survived the harsh saltwater environment. The drag is real smooth and precise, and I picked this reel for 1 reason. The vast majority is anodized and not chrome plated. The chrome plating is always the first to go when exposed to the elements. That brings my one gripe, around where the handle screws in is a plastic/chrome plated ring. This of course after one trip has already lost most of its gold plating and is now just white plastic. If this could be a piece of anodized aluminum or even just a black piece of plastic I would love this reel. Regardless, I haven't seen any better options for the price.

Rico Martinez : 100 series is perfect ultralight setup !

Eddie X : Just buy it already.

I recently purchased this reel on a whim because it was low price, had a great review from wired2fish and I was also chatting it up with another fisherman and he said he liked the piscifun reel he bought.

While I can't speak to the long term durability, the performance of the reel so far is astounding. Right out of the box I love the sound of the drag and the fact that it has micro adjustments unlike other budget reels.

Tonight I got to see the drag in action when a 4.65# catfish took my bait. I was running 2# monofilament line. I need no more convincing. The drag was smooth and did not fail me. I was confident playing the fish until it was tired out.

Save yourself some money and get yourself a nice reel. Piscifun deserves a lot of credit for the delivery of a high performing reel at this price.

DAVID WEINMANN : Smaller than advertised and exaggerated line capacity.

Well, I wasn't expecting an inshore reel with the 5000. For comparison I have a Tsunami Armr 5000 that holds 250yds/40lb braid. The Viper X 5000 claims a capacity of 260yds/40lb braid. I have posted pics of the reels side by side. The Armr is much larger with a larger spool. I would target tarpon with the Armr but never with the Viper X, way too small. It's more for redfish, trout, and snook. I'm returning the Viper and buying a larger 5000 reel. But, I am still a Piscifun fan, having owned the Chaos XS, Alijoz, and some of their fly reels.

Retha Riley : Smooth spinning reel. Highly recommended.

Love the power handle.

Kendall Pargman : Silky smooth!

This reel is silky smooth. I have a daiwa ballistics and this reel is almost just as nice at a 6th of the price. Just got it so I can't say on how the finish will hold up. Overall it looks and feels fantastic!

Steven Mull : Awesome grip and drag to haul in huge Crappies

I got the Viper x 500 ultra light reel for panfish and trout. I went out and tried to get some catfish at a local spot, but we struck out. I ended up going to a friend's farm pond and caught 23 crappie, and 27 bluegills. Had a blast with this reel spooled with 6 lb test line. This little reel can haul in some monsters.

Richard G. Koehler Jr. : Some models missing reverse lock.

Some of the smaller models do not have a reverse lock lever so are always reverse locked. A very important feature which is not in the description or pictures on the webpage.

Amazon Customer : Great little reel

D Cox : Nice and smooth

Nice and smooth and easy to use ned rig.

Dennis Rouse : Nice light weight reel

I have not used the reel just loaded 6-lb. test. Very smooth and quiet.....Can't find the reverse clicker?

Rico Martinez : 100 series is perfect ultralight setup !

Drew & Grace : What a deal!

This real is a sweet deal! I have the 1000 series on a Bluegill/Crappie setup and couldn't be happier! The reel is light, well made, and versatile with its carbon fiber drag! I have caught huge bull bluegills and big bass using this reel and have never had a problem. Hoping that it lasts for a long time!

Retha Riley : Smooth spinning reel. Highly recommended.

Love the power handle.

kent collins : This is a great reel for the money

This reel is smooth drag is really nice, value for the money

Brian Green : Nit too happy with quality for a 60.00 dollar reel

Not the best

fishead : Lightweight

Great reel for ice fishing

sooner10 : Excellent reel

I’ve had this reel out on three trips now and it has been flawless. First, it’s a very nice looking reel but it’s also very smooth and works perfect. I’ve got shimano and Lew’s spinning reels and this one performs as well as any other reel I have. So far, I’m super happy with the reel, especially at this price. It’s a great value for the money and I’ll be getting some more of them.

Amazon Customer : Garbage!

Broke on me the first trip to the lake. Lost a 35 dollar lure ! Waste of good money!

Brent Todd : Nice reel!!!

Caught 3 nice small largemouth bass with it the first day i used it, Held up well, tested against being snagged 3 times that day also, no issues whatsoever, that it was bigger but oh well, casts and retrieves NICELY!!!

fishead : Lightweight

Great reel for ice fishing

Todd Bell : Smooth like warm butter

I have 5 Piscifun spinning reels. 2 Flames, 1 Honor XT, 1 Carbon X and now this reel, the Viper X. I mainly fish for crappie and love to shoot those tiny jigs under docks then slowly retrieve back in. So with that slow retrieve, I need a reel that is butter smooth and light weight. All my Piscifun reels have preformed as expected. Is the Flame, a 25 dollar reel, as smooth as the Carbon X, a 70 dollar reel, no, as expected comparing price points. The Honor XT is right there in comparison with the Carbon X. When I seen the Viper X I wanted to give it a try. Now based on the price range I did not expect it to perform nor be as smooth as the higher end reel, but amazingly enough, it does. I have the 1000 series Viper X. It's very light and balances well with the dedicated dock shooting rod I have it paired with. Retrieve is butter smooth on that slow retrieve so there is no interference with feeling even the slightest tick from a finicky crappie. The only issue I had on initial use was the antireverse bearing would not engage every time, but after an hour or so it cleared up and worked flawlessly. Now given it was 35 degrees with a reel that had never been spun I'm sure the temperature was the factor in that issue and it is of no concern to me. So if you are looking for a reel that won't break the bank and want the performance of a higher end reel the Viper X will work great for you.

Amazon Customer : AWESOME Reel and value!

Man this reel is amazing for the price! I will be buying several more!

D Cox : Nice and smooth

Nice and smooth and easy to use ned rig.

Jim Collins : Amazing reel.

This is the second Piscifun reel I have purchased. This is a very solid and great performing reel. I used 15 pound braid on the Venom X and it casts and retrieves like a dream. In my opinion Piscifun builds the best reels for the budget conscious angler. I hope to try the Torrent next!!

Drew & Grace : What a deal!

Patrick : Hmm

Works great. I've been doing a lot of jetty and surf fishing with it and its holding well

matthew : Very light weight

These reels are very light even if you go all the way up to the 5000 models there are extremely light is still on the small size I bought the 4000 model to pair up with my 8 foot Okuma surf rod because I didn’t want a heavy reel on a lightweight rod however these are still on the smaller side of the salt water side spinning reels so if you want a very light weight real this is very very hard to beat across all namebrand reels however if you want a medium to large size try the 5000 series however even the 5000 series it’s not gonna be very large but it will give you a very good lightweight matchup if you have a lightweight rod the functions of the gears are very smooth the bail is very hard and sturdy the design of the real is very attractive I have not used these reels yet. I bought two of these 4000 series reels to go with my 2 8 foot okuma surf rods but I’m looking forward to using them and see how far they will cast.

Amazon Customer : AWESOME Reel and value!

Man this reel is amazing for the price! I will be buying several more!

Rico Martinez : 100 series is perfect ultralight setup !

Jeremy Stocks : Awesome reel!!!

I love this reel. Not only can I set the drag crazy high, but it’s super light and matches my color scheme perfectly.

Brian Green : Nit too happy with quality for a 60.00 dollar reel

Not the best

Amazon Customer : Was unimpressed-Now happy.

So my reel arrived in pieces. (Which didn't seem to be the norm from the couple unboxing videos i watched on YouTube.). After piercing the handle together, i found there is no happy medium. If i tighten the handle down, the reel is so tight, i cannot easily turn it. If i loosen it up, there is too much play in the handle. So sad. I was really hoping that this would be the reel of my dreams. Now it's calls to customer service and/or a trip to return it. Too bad. I really wanted to love this reel.

Update.

So i returned the reel and rolled the dice again on the same reel trusting the overwhelmingly positive reviews. Im glad i did. This is the reel that i hoped for. It's silky smooth and pretty sexy. Not sure why my first reel arrived in pieces. Very happy. I hope to get out for some walleye soon and test it out.

Last update.

Took the viper x for some walleye. Reel was real nice-pun intended. Highly recommend this reel.

Jeremy Stocks : Awesome reel!!!

I love this reel. Not only can I set the drag crazy high, but it’s super light and matches my color scheme perfectly.

L. A. Gliba : Even better than the original!

I was looking to retire my Piscifun Storm 2000 that had many miles on it with something a little newer. I started looking at what Piscifun had to offer in a 3000 size reel. I was familiar with the Viper line from the original that I got for my son that he uses still, in the 5000 for trolling for salmon to the Viper II 3000 that I have for surf fishing in the ocean. To my surprise they have a new version.... The Viper X, with how great the past models are, especially at the price point I figured I'd give it a shot. I ordered the 3000 for the heavier line capacity since I'll be using it throwing spinners for salmon in the upper river. I have got to say, some how the Viper X is smoother than the buttery smooth Viper II I have. Quality and feel is on point with what I've come to expect from Piscifuns reels. I've switched all my reels over and only ever had one issue with a reel. I contacted customer support and they shipped me put a new reel to replace the defective one. They were quick to respond and even quicker to remedy the issue. I've got no worries at all with the new one even considering it will have occasional saltwater use.

Kathy : Easily worth the money

This is a great reel, especially for the money. Showed up with a dent on the foam paddle from it being pressed against another part during shipping. They completely understood and promptly sent me another full handle for no cost. Great customer service is all I can say. Time to go catch some fish with this baby!

Steven Mull : Awesome grip and drag to haul in huge Crappies

andrew berman : Great reel, super smooth

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