What I Hate About Bass Fishing 2024
Josh Smith reply :
Hi Folks,
I'm sitting here watching the snow come down from Linus and I'm itching to have a good bass rod in my hand. They're all at my shop!
So I'm reflecting instead: The bass I catch... they fight hard. They're scrappy. But even the larger ones (for Indiana) play out pretty fast.
Granted, I do use heavier tackle, mostly Ambassadeurs of all years and MH/F rods. I do have one M/F rod, and I catch a fair amount of bass on my ultralight, too. They're fun on the ultralight.
Still, they play out fast.
I caught a buffalo fish once. The thing was a yard long or so. It bent my MH rod like bass bend my ultralight, and I fought it for a good, long time. The old Ambassadeur I was using had 4.7:1 gearing and I was glad of it. At that time, all that there was on the popular market was mono line. My biggest fear was that it would break.
I love bass, though.
I guess my question is this: Where can I find bass that fight like these buffalo? I've thought about running up to Lake Michigan, but I don't know the first thing about big lakes and my boat, while a deep v, doesn't have (and won't take) a motor large enough to really fish a huge lake efficiently. It's really geared toward small to medium reservoirs.
Is it the nature of bass to play out fast? Or, is it just the northern bass that play out fast due to colder waters etc?
Just some ramblings from a cabin fever victim.
Thoughts?
Josh
Jar11591 reply :
Sounds like you need to catch some smallmouth.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Google striped bass fishing/ guided trips in Indiana, there are a few lakes upstate from me that can/could put you on some 20 pound fish...
It's a blast, done it in Cumberland before the Dam issues and fish kills...
HoosierHawgs reply :
If there is a shallow creek near you, a wading trip would do you well. They are convenient to fish when close, as I have one right next to my house, and am able to walk off the couch, put some sandals on and fish. Also, it doesn't freeze over, and so I can fish it right now as I watch the snow fall outside my window, which is why I'm looking at a pair of good waders, as I'd prefer not to lose a leg..... I digress... I usually fish with Medium Spinning Gear with 8# CoPoly or Medium Casting Rods paired w/7:1 Reels, and 12# line, and smallies can give a scrappy fight on either. Fighting smallmouth on my spinning gear is my favorite thing to do on a summer evening, and it's even better with a few buddies. If you have a creek near you, it is worth trying. Also, it's worth noting that you my need to downsize... I'm not sure how you generally fish, but many creek smallies are tight lipped, but you can usually get them to succumb to finesse jigs, stick worms, and the likes.....
FloridaFishinFool reply :
The cold might have something to do with it.
I have found that river bass who live their lives fighting the current for every moment of their lives put up a much stronger and longer fight while lake and pond bass seem to give up sooner and don't put up quite the fight I can get out of St. Johns river bass. River bass are some brawlers!
I have also noticed 2-4 pound bass are quite scrappy while a 7 pounder or bigger tend to tire out and roll over and give up a lot quicker, but those are just my observations and are by no means scientific!
K_Mac reply :
I agree that stiper or striper hybrids will test your skill and equipment. Big catfish in moving water are a lot of fun. Salmon on a Great Lake tributary are also a great time. A big salmon headed downstream is a serious challenge. Your lowly carp is pound-for-pound as strong a fighter as I have found in freshwater. Even big bluegill on ultralight gear will get your heart rate up. It's all good!
Goose52 reply :
Grass carp will tug your line a bit... 
Scott F reply :
River smallmouth caught in current will give you quite a battle. Of course, I don't use use heavy rods and 50 pound test line that allows you to horse in any fish either
A-Jay reply :
Josh Smith reply :
I've not been after smallies in a while. This past summer was really too wet to do much wading, so I concentrated on the one lake.
If it's drier this summer, I'll be able to wade my favorite place, where the Salamonie River meets the Wabash. Last summer it was always flooded out that way, and when it wasn't, that crap seaweed was all over the rocks. Never seen that before, either.
I love to wade with an ultralight setup, though I have been wanting to try it with a baitcasting setup again, too, and I really need to get my fly rig out there. It's seen no real action in years.
Josh
OntarioFishingGuy reply :
River smallies on UL gear are a blast, but if you want a really hard fight, consider a steelheading trip.
hawghound reply :
Did I hear you say that there was something you don't like about bass fishing? Bite your tongue. Up here in NH I find the Smallmouth more fiesty and I just thrill when they do their aerial dance. Strange as it sounds, I think the 2-3 pound largemouths fight harder and longer than the bigger ones. I don't know if they tire out quicker or give up thinking that they are big enough to handle whatever is at the other end of the journey. I don't know, do bass even think?
everythingthatswims reply :
If you want a truly hard fighting fish, don't target largemouth. Outsmarting them is what I enjoy, you can't find a more dynamic fish out there to to pursue.
SirSnookalot reply :
A hard fighting fish is relative to what one normally catches.
Bankbeater reply :
Smallies on UL gear, or foul hook a carp.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On the rare occasion I target carp I usually opt for light tackle and 6 pound test. Hook a 10-30 pound carp on that gear and you're truly in for a test of your gear and fish fighting skill.
Smallmouth in a river are about the hardest pulling bass I've caught, but there's lots of other, harder fighting fish out there.
buzzed bait reply :
would agree with catching some smallmouth. also have to throw the spotted bass in the mix. sometimes they make me feel like Ike talking about "a monster" "a giant" "a beast" and then a 2.5lber spot comes to the surface.......
Master Bait'r reply :
On 2/2/2015 at 6:54 AM, Goose52 said:Grass carp will tug your line a bit...
Have to ask- what line did you use?
Master Bait'r reply :
Also... Smallmouth in a current.
Mass Bassin' reply :
4 pound smallies give you a run for your money
Goose52 reply :
On 2/2/2015 at 10:20 PM, Master Bait said:Have to ask- what line did you use?
I've caught 9 grass carp between 35 to 48 pounds in the last few years - all were landed on 10lb test - BPS Excel nylon mono for one, Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra-Soft for the other eight.
A properly adjusted drag is your friend...
J Francho reply :
I don't fish for bass for the fight. If it's a fight I'm after, there are plenty of opportunities for bigger fish. The problem is catching them is generally a chuck and wind affair, and doesn't take much skill. Bass are a brain game.
MIbassin reply :
ditch freshwater and head down to the keys for some tarpon and permit
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 12:07 AM, J Francho said:I don't fish for bass for the fight. If it's a fight I'm after, there are plenty of opportunities for bigger fish. The problem is catching them is generally a chuck and wind affair, and doesn't take much skill. Bass are a brain game.
This! This is why I love fishing for bass. When I fished ocean waters, it was easy to catch anything basically. I got big skates, sharks, cods, perch, bass, octopus..etc...whatever was in the waters i was able to catch (No offense to your saltwater guys!). Until I moved in Ontario, Canada wife wanted to move to her home country. For the first time I was land locked, no OCEAN! I started bass fishing and I regret I didn't get into it earlier in my life. It has been more exciting for me and I keep learning something new all the time.
senile1 reply :
In my area, stripers and wipers are hard pulling big fish, that can be caught with lures. There are, of course, catfish and carp that can be caught by other means and will occasionally bite an artificial bait. If I lived on the gulf coast, I suspect I would be addicted to fishing for redfish (red drum). That is the hardest fighting inshore saltwater fish I have done battle with. A 20 - 25 inch fish on medium bass tackle can provide a 15 - 20 minute fight. The larger 30 - 40 inch fish, and above, provide battles well over 30 minutes.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 12:46 AM, lmbfisherman said:This! This is why I love fishing for bass. When I fished ocean waters, it was easy to catch anything basically. I got big skates, sharks, cods, perch, bass, octopus..etc...whatever was in the waters i was able to catch (No offense to your saltwater guys!). Until I moved in Ontario, Canada wife wanted to move to her home country. For the first time I was land locked, no OCEAN! I started bass fishing and I regret I didn't get into it earlier in my life. It has been more exciting for me and I keep learning something new all the time.
Yup, Salt guys seem to bash bass fishing tactics and gear on here a fair amount.. It's not the battle of the LMB or SMB , but rather the skill behind locating, presenting, then catching the Bass fishes... I fished salt ten years, it's much more simple than Bass fishing, in my experience.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 1:12 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Yup, Salt guys seem to bash bass fishing tactics and gear on here a fair amount.. It's not the battle of the LMB or SMB , but rather the skill behind locating, presenting, then catching the Bass fishes... I fished salt ten years, it's much more simple than Bass fishing, in my experience.
Yes totally agree. It was pretty mind numbing for salt water for me. My brother and parents are still saltwater people and they think I'm crazy. I use to be like them. They also think I'm nuts for C&R too. They catch to eat, I don't. 
ColdSVT reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 12:16 AM, MIbassin said:ditch freshwater and head down to the keys for some tarpon and permit
Been whipped by both...those 80-120lb tarpon are fiesty! The 130 and fish are bulldogs!!
Got into a few permit over 40lbs and they were nasty!
Caught several smaller permit and they dont quit lol
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 1:18 AM, lmbfisherman said:Yes totally agree. It was pretty mind numbing for salt water for me. My brother and parents are still saltwater people and they think I'm crazy. I use to be like them. They also think I'm nuts for C&R too. They catch to eat, I don't.
Yup, thing is, I'm not opposed to salt at all, it is a great fishing experience, sometimes! But fishing for bass has got to be more about the "Hunt" rather than the "Fight" it's funny, salt guys disputing bass fishing guys and gear on a bass fishing forum! Go figure...
senile1 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 12:07 AM, J Francho said:I don't fish for bass for the fight. If it's a fight I'm after, there are plenty of opportunities for bigger fish. The problem is catching them is generally a chuck and wind affair, and doesn't take much skill. Bass are a brain game.
I think all of us who are serious bass fisherman fish for them for this very reason. The strategy involved provides tremendous fun and satisfaction.
I am no expert on saltwater fishing and only get to do it on occasion, so I have no business speaking of the difficulty, or lack thereof. I do know that on my last saltwater excursion our guide had to work pretty hard to put us on some fish. He eventually did succeed and we caught some solid redfish and speckled trout.
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0119 reply :
Ive never seen bass fishing as a brain game. Even during the poorest of conditions, they seem to bite out of reaction if the bait is placed in their face. Of course I only fish relatively small waters never deeper than 6ft. so the hunt really doesnt play into the 'game' much. I no longer really go after them with even med.hvy gear. With 10# now heavy for me. I'm enjoying the game more now than ever and for me the tug is the drug.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 1:28 AM, senile1 said:I think all of us who are serious bass fisherman fish for them for this very reason. The strategy involved provides tremendous fun and satisfaction.
I am no expert on saltwater fishing and only get to do it on occasion, so I have no business speaking of the difficulty, or lack thereof. I do know that on my last saltwater excursion our guide had to work pretty hard to put us on some fish. He eventually did succeed and we caught some solid redfish and speckled trout.
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Try it yourself with out a guide and see how easy it is. At times bass fishing is easier and other times inshore fishing is easier. As much as one needs to know about using different techniques and lures to catch bass an inshore fisherman has to be aware of tides both incoming and out going, what fish are if the area if any. Just like bass fishing inshore fishermen have to know how to fish certain wind and water clarity conditions. Being with a guide at stick marsh for bass or a guide on the keys is a great benefit, they have the knowledge you don't. When I catch a good fish with a guide or charter, they are the ones that deserve the credit. Catching them by myself is the time to pat myself on the back.
What fish is the best fight is pretty much a moot point for most people, you haven't caught them all. You could never tell a smallmouth fisherman that anything is tougher, same goes for steelhead, stripers or redfish. I've caught all those fish but some species have eluded me, and I can't be told anything is going to out fight a jack, permit or tarpon. It's meaningless banter.
I get razed by my saltwater friends all the time, "going for pan fish" as they chuckle " gonna use em it for bait?"
I'm no expert but I do fish bass and saltwater nearly every day. Without being overly bright just the experience of being there everyday, one has to know something.
senile1 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 2:59 AM, SirSnookalot said:Try it yourself with out a guide and see how easy it is. At times bass fishing is easier and other times inshore fishing is easier. As much as one needs to know about using different techniques and lures to catch bass an inshore fisherman has to be aware of tides both incoming and out going, what fish are if the area if any. Just like bass fishing inshore fishermen have to know how to fish certain wind and water clarity conditions. Being with a guide at stick marsh for bass or a guide on the keys is a great benefit, they have the knowledge you don't. When I catch a good fish with a guide or charter, they are the ones that deserve the credit. Catching them by myself is the time to pat myself on the back.
What fish is the best fight is pretty much a moot point for most people, you haven't caught them all. You could never tell a smallmouth fisherman that anything is tougher, same goes for steelhead, stripers or redfish. I've caught all those fish but some species have eluded me, and I can't be told anything is going to out fight a jack, permit or tarpon. It's meaningless banter.
I get razed by my saltwater friends all the time, "going for pan fish" as they chuckle " gonna use em it for bait?"
I'm no expert but I do fish bass and saltwater nearly every day. Without being overly bright just the experience of being there everyday, one has to know something.
That was exactly my point. I think we all should be careful speaking as if bass fishing is the most difficult to strategize and achieve success. Unless we have tried them all, we really can't know.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 3:35 AM, senile1 said:That was exactly my point. I think we all should be careful speaking as if bass fishing is the most difficult to strategize and achieve success. Unless we have tried them all, we really can't know.
My exact point was this is a BASS fishing forum.
Sure, there's a bit of crossover talk, primarily freshwater species, some like to dabble mostly on salt, I like fishing, for a lot of different fish, however it's about the sport of Bass fishing on this forum, if I wanna talk about the merits of saltwater fish, I would go to a saltwater forum.
senile1 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 3:45 AM, Alonerankin2 said:My exact point was this is a BASS fishing forum.
Sure, there's a bit of crossover talk, primarily freshwater species, some like to dabble mostly on salt, I like fishing, for a lot of different fish, however it's about the sport of Bass fishing on this forum, if I wanna talk about the merits of saltwater fish, I would go to a saltwater forum.
I am in complete agreement with your point that this is a bass fishing forum and, for the most part, we should be talking about bass fishing. I think everyone seems to understand that, though it doesn't bother me if someone wants to bring their saltwater experience into a conversation. However, from reading your other posts that wasn't your exact point, but one of two or three points you made. One of your other points was that saltwater is easier than bass fishing per your quote below. From your perspective, maybe this is true. Others might not think so.
QuoteYup, Salt guys seem to bash bass fishing tactics and gear on here a fair amount.. It's not the battle of the LMB or SMB , but rather the skill behind locating, presenting, then catching the Bass fishes... I fished salt ten years, it's much more simple than Bass fishing, in my experience.
You also made a point that saltwater guys dispute bass guys and gear on this forum. See below. I haven't noticed this, but maybe it has occurred in other threads.
QuoteYup, thing is, I'm not opposed to salt at all, it is a great fishing experience, sometimes! But fishing for bass has got to be more about the "Hunt" rather than the "Fight" it's funny, salt guys disputing bass fishing guys and gear on a bass fishing forum! Go figure...
I think the OP asked about bass that fought harder, and everyone was just trying to give him some examples of fish he could go after for a good fight - freshwater and saltwater included - probably due to the fact that he mentioned that he enjoyed the fight of a non-bass, the Buffalo. I don't see any of the other debates that you saw in this thread.
0119 reply :
I don't dispute bass guys rather I dispute those who think their experience catching bass makes them more of a fisherman than those sitting on a bucket. Bass fisherman as a whole seem to harbor an elitist attitude. The industry propagates that with techno bling gear, gangsta basswear and foolish "pro" adoration. One day all types of fishing will be serious threatened. Our unwillingness to stick together as anglers in general will not help our cause.
RSM789 reply :
I thought about this a bit and I believe it is the sum of the parts that attracts me (& many others) to bass fishing over other types. By sum of the parts, I mean the following attributes:
- It is active, not passive - Even if the catching is slow, you can enjoy the activity of trying different areas, making targeted casts, etc.
- Success is achievable multiple ways - It is often seen in tournaments how multiple, different patterns will catch fish under the same conditions.
- Artificial lures can be the most effective tool - The cleanliness, flexibility & non wastefulness of artificial lures is attractive to many when compared to using bait.
- Availability - Nearly any creek, pond, river or lake offer you the opportunity to catch a bass.
- Fish size - Average sized bass can be caught without specialized equipment with larger fish always a possibility.
- Fish spirit - Bass will pull, jump & splash when caught. Other species may do one of these, but not the others. For example, many trout species will jump, but other than that, they just kind of wiggle when caught. Catfish will pull like a truck, too bad they wont jump a foot out of the water.
- Landing the fish - Is there anything more cool than grabbing a bass by its open mouth & puling him aboard? No net, no gaff, just grab him by the lip & then let him go.
There may be certain types of fish or certain types of fishing that are better than bass fishing in one or two aspects, but when you take the entire package, it becomes obvious why it is the most popular fish in the U.S.
Josh Smith reply :
Hi Folks,
I have limited smallie experience. I do need to fish the rivers more, and am hoping I get the opportunity this year. I love to wade.
The hunt and active fishing with lures is what it's about for me, too. I just want to lay into something that fights, too. I suppose if I had access to 5+lb bass all day long, this would be ideal. This is Indiana, though, and they grow slower.
Maybe I need some FL or TX bassin'? I dislike still fishing. The buffalo fish that laid into that inline spinner was a brute. Only time I still fish is if I'm going to get to eat catfish when I'm done!
Regards,
Josh
SirSnookalot reply :
Before anyone places a target on my back I don't believe I bad rapped bass or saltwater fishing. There are similarities as well as differences, one venue is neither easier or more difficult, the conditions at hand dictate that. I find both types of fishing satisfying, but I do favor the salt.
0119 IMO made an excellent point about elitism. Quite often I notice saltwater fishermen viewed as 2nd class anglers, understandable as this is a bass forum and people tend to be protective of their own sport. I assure you that in saltwater there are nice boats, great gear, highly skilled fisherman that use a variety of techniques, some have been adopted for bass like umbrella rigs and drop shotting. If one thinks all you have to do is put a live shrimp on the line, then ya haven't done much salt fishing, I'm not talking about a blue runner or sand perch. To catch fish here you have to hunt them just like being on the lake looking for bass. Have had many days going skunk both inshore and offshore.
J Francho reply :
Do most salt water fisherman chase a single species, year round? Or do they take what's available where they can fish, within their means?
Elitism? I don't disagree. The beauty and attraction of bass fishing is that it is well within most peoples' means to specialize and persue throughout the seasons. Try that with trout and salmon. How about reds and specks? Tuna? Marlin and other billfish? Tarpon?
There is a DIY ethic in bass fishing that isn't there in many other forage. If there is, it takes a significant amount of money.
So if you want to call it elitism, go ahead. The common man rarely gets to be considered elite. Thanks for the compliment!
SirSnookalot reply :
Good question about taking what's available or targeting year round, addressing the Atlantic as I have no real experience on the Gulf. Probably some of both as many species are some what migratory or they follow the bait, and certain weather conditions bring them in too. As far as targeting snook are very similar to bass. Snook are present year round but not too active in the winter, bass are the opposite active in winter and much slower in the summer, I target both species year round. Right now I target bass but still get out to snook fish, in the summer it's snook every morning, and still a little bit of bass fishing, ya gotta go with what's hot.
The common fisherman fishing salt is no different than the bucket bass fisherman, same Walmart type of equipment, nothing too sophisticated. Instead of digging up worms they throw a sabiki to catch their bait. Most on BR tend to use artificial, for the inshore fishermen that chooses that route it can be quite affordable on any budget. For example a Penn Fierce mounted on a Calico Jack using Walmart spoons, $5.00 bombers and bucktails, all of that will get the job done for a modest price. As with 50k bass boats and 10 combos on the deck, that can be done in salt too. Price out Yellowfin or Grady White with 2 or 3 OB and the "right gear" and see what that sets you back.
Bass or salt it can be reasonably priced or sky high, BTW Viking fishing yachts start about 900K, now your talking elitists.
senile1 reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 10:24 PM, J Francho said:Do most salt water fisherman chase a single species, year round? Or do they take what's available where they can fish, within their means?
Elitism? I don't disagree. The beauty and attraction of bass fishing is that it is well within most peoples' means to specialize and persue throughout the seasons. Try that with trout and salmon. How about reds and specks? Tuna? Marlin and other billfish? Tarpon?
There is a DIY ethic in bass fishing that isn't there in many other forage. If there is, it takes a significant amount of money.
So if you want to call it elitism, go ahead. The common man rarely gets to be considered elite. Thanks for the compliment!
Jon, those are good points about how bass fishing has appealed to the common man. Obviously, the reason the word "elitism" was used is because some bass anglers can come across as thinking they are better than other types of fishermen and women. Unfortunately, the poster referred to bass anglers as a whole, rather than the few who act this way. I do get his point though.
J Francho reply :
I don't bother shouting from the rooftops about how humble I am. Seems a little insincere, lol.
I think when you're worried about how someone thinks of you, there may be a bigger problem staring at you in the mirror.
"Elitism" is almost always a tag designated from outside the circle, and stems from (sometimes innocent) ignorance.
Anyway, it matters little to me. I just like chasing bass. If you think what I'm doing is easy, elitist, over thought, over done, etc., the so what. I'm having fun at no one's expense but my own.
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Northern pike put a good fight, and eat bass lures. Try those if you want a hard fighting fish.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 2/3/2015 at 5:47 AM, 119 said:I don't dispute bass guys rather I dispute those who think their experience catching bass makes them more of a fisherman than those sitting on a bucket. Bass fisherman as a whole seem to harbor an elitist attitude. The industry propagates that with techno bling gear, gangsta basswear and foolish "pro" adoration. One day all types of fishing will be serious threatened. Our unwillingness to stick together as anglers in general will not help our cause.
I actually find the opposite. The salt guys come to me and say look at this I caught yadda yadda and it was 100lbs. Silly person trying to catch a 1lb fishy. This from people I know. Heck, the salmon and trout fisherman think I'm wasting my time. But I don't care really.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 2/4/2015 at 1:45 AM, senile1 said:Jon, those are good points about how bass fishing has appealed to the common man. Obviously, the reason the word "elitism" was used is because some bass anglers can come across as thinking they are better than other types of fishermen and women. Unfortunately, the poster referred to bass anglers as a whole, rather than the few who act this way. I do get his point though.
Where I notice elitism, it that's the correct term for it, are the tournament fishermen. Anywhere from top of the line equipment, to multiple combos, fishing a variety of techniques, etc.etc.etc., like recreational fishermen don't do the same things. My perception is that they put what they do on a pedestal of importance with higher skill level compared to what the average weekend warrior is doing just to have some fun.
J Francho reply :
The average tournament fisherman is a weekend warrior looking to have some fun.
senile1 reply :
On 2/4/2015 at 2:17 AM, J Francho said:I don't bother shouting from the rooftops about how humble I am. Seems a little insincere, lol.
I think when you're worried about how someone thinks of you, there may be a bigger problem staring at you in the mirror.
"Elitism" is almost always a tag designated from outside the circle, and stems from (sometimes innocent) ignorance.
Anyway, it matters little to me. I just like chasing bass. If you think what I'm doing is easy, elitist, over thought, over done, etc., the so what. I'm having fun at no one's expense but my own.
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Northern pike put a good fight, and eat bass lures. Try those if you want a hard fighting fish.
I'm not sure if this was addressed to me or not, but I am answering based on that assumption. You are confusing false humility with a determination to concentrate on the facts. That means accepting the truth where you find it, whether it supports your preconceived ideas or not.
Fact: No saltwater angler bashed bass anglers in this thread.
Fact: One poster made a point about bass anglers being "elitist" but referred to bass anglers as a whole doing this, rather than a small subset.
Fact: Jon stated that bass angling had appealed to the common angler for many reasons, which is true.
I am not perfect or the arbiter of truth, but whether I agree with a person or not, I will try to acknowledge any facts one might state in an attempt to keep a conversation civil. It is a common problem in the world that those who share a common hobby, political stance, religious view, etc. sometimes use that affiliation to see themselves as better than others. I can't always just stand by silently when this happens though I typically try to stay out of such debates. I am a bass angler. I love bass fishing and identify with bass fishermen, but there were no saltwater anglers bashing bass fishermen in this thread and to say so was untrue, and in my opinion, unfair. So I spoke out. If I was worried about people liking me I wouldn't have said anything.
It is unfortunate that this thread is off the tracks and my comments have been part of that. I'm doing my own "Irene" thing and dropping out of this one.
J Francho reply :
Nothing in my post was directed at you.
Josh Smith reply :
I wouldn't mind trying saltwater fishing. After seeing SirSnookAlot's name, I looked snook up (this was a while back).
It's a nice looking fish. Most of what I am used to seeing (on TV) pulled out of the briney deep don't appeal to me. Snook and a couple others do.
Unfortunately, I'm landlocked and am at a stage in my life where I don't have freedom of travel.
Bass will remain my main focus with walleyes secondary, but I think I'll branch out to pike and musky when I get time to study up on 'em.
Josh
PS: I never did mean for this to turn into any arguments over elitism etc. All sports have their snobs, and I don't think any of you here qualify as such. At least, I have nobody on my ignore list.
Now you want to get talking guns, I can show you snobs in that field!
Mainebass1984 reply :
Everybody play nice and go catch some fish how ever you would like to catch it.
0119 reply :
On 2/5/2015 at 12:32 AM, Josh Smith said:I wouldn't mind trying saltwater fishing. After seeing SirSnookAlot's name, I looked snook up (this was a while back).
It's a nice looking fish. Most of what I am used to seeing (on TV) pulled out of the briney deep don't appeal to me. Snook and a couple others do.
Unfortunately, I'm landlocked and am at a stage in my life where I don't have freedom of travel.
Bass will remain my main focus with walleyes secondary, but I think I'll branch out to pike and musky when I get time to study up on 'em.
Josh
PS: I never did mean for this to turn into any arguments over elitism etc. All sports have their snobs, and I don't think any of you here qualify as such. At least, I have nobody on my ignore list.
Now you want to get talking guns, I can show you snobs in that field!
Your really not missing all that much. Between unregulated growth and deregulated environmental laws by the current Gov. fishing here in the domain of the snook has taken a huge hit. You wont see that truth on t.v. though. I'd be thrilled to have the diversity you enjoy up there frankly. Huge cats, yellow bass, white bass etc. I'm sorry my comment, as usual, was taken by the same certain folks as being a line in the sand and ripped away the purpose of your post. Your right about gun talk. There I am a true elitist. 1911's only and plastic guns are the great demise! Anyway.........
Catch 22 reply :
I have fished fresh and salt extensively and having to choose one over the other would be an impossible task for me. My roots are fresh water bassin and that put my skills above the average salt angler in times past. The I-net is changing that.
Easy! I have engaged stupid easy catching in both waters and am greatful for both. Right now I`m happy to catch a few crappies,its all relative.
As stated already,the OP indicated that he needs more pullage.I think some good suggestions arose here.
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SirSnookalot reply :
All people that fish must fish the species they have available for them in their region, we try and make the best of what we have. I do believe further north there are more freshwater species that can be specifically targeted. In my area of Florida (which is not the best for fresh or salt) I pretty much can only target LMB, peacocks and snakeheads, just like saltwater fishing there are seasonal limitations.
If fishing was my only concern of where to live it wouldn't be South Florida. I first stated fishing Florida about 1980, the fishing today doesn't even come close to what it was.
wrat reply :
Bass of any sort just are not really hard fighters the bigger they are the less they fight this is a GENERALIZATION but for the most part it just is what it is, with that said I love fishing for bass I live 3 miles from the ocean and 60 from Okeechobee and I make that 60 mile one way trip at least once a week and almost never go out inshore or offshore its just not where my heart or head is at..if your looking for a massive tug/fight bass just aint gonna give it to you, salt is the place for that Wahoo, Snook, Tarpon , Jack all pound for pound will put ANY bass to shame
LunkercityVB reply :
Bass fishing is my thing but im a fisherman first and foremost. For me its not how long it takes me to reel in the fish or how hard they put up a fight but the thrill into fooling them to bite my lure. Some days are easier than others and some days i dont catch anything at all and im ok with that, its what keeps me coming back to try again. I've done all kinds of fishing and regularly switch it up throughtout the year but offshore fishing is usually making no effort trolling around all day looking for marlin or wahoo and once you get one on you could be one the reel for up to hours. And once ive caught a few im done for the day because im exhausted. Bass fishing for me is more fun because i spend all day hunting, pitching into cover with a jig or dancing a shakey head trying to entice a fish to get hungry. Thats what fishing is for me. River smallmouth put up a much stronger fight than the largemouth and the peacock bass puts up an even better fight than smallmouth. I save my money all year to spend a week in florida trying to catch peacocks and its the best fishing i get all year----tightlines
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