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Farm Pond Heavy Grass Cover On Top


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

I am in need of some help i fish a private farm pond, in south georgia, that the owner has sort of let grow up it has large areas of the pond covered by grass mats on top on on side the other side of the pond is rather open but shallow with grass close to the banks it has tractor tires spread through the bottom of the pond but no where in the pond is it any deeper than 5ft. The water is stained but since it is so shallow you can still see the bottom with easy and non-polorized sunglasses. There is an island near one side of the pond that is access able via a bridge which has a large channel between the grass that fish seem to swim through often on the cooler days. I've used everything i can think of Jigs, shallow diving cranks, lipless cranks, swimbaits, super flukes, flukes, worms, lizards in nearly ever color, scumfrogs, rage toads, poppers, and the ever so useless banjo minnow. the problem i am having is getting the bass to bite there are some big ones in there along with some huge catfish, I've gotten two hits off of the scumfrog, one off the lizard, and one off of the shallow crank, landed the two not on the frog, and I've been out there a lot with nothing to show for it. wondering what the fish and where you would think would be the best place to fish, ill post some pictures tomorrow of it.


fishing user avatarMuffinMan reply : 

try fishing a Rage Tail craw and bouncing it off the bottom. i would fish the channel you are speaking of with the craw, but otherwise I would stick to the frog if I were you. Also maybe try a spinner bait or buzzbait in a white/chartreuse color. As a last resort I would try using some of the scent spray by YUM in the garlic/ail scent, it seems to work for me. I hope this might help you.


fishing user avatarMarty reply : 

You didn't say what kind of grass mats. But if you haven't tried it, I'd use some soft plastics in holes in the mats and at the edges. Also some topwaters on the mats and along the edges. If a fish comes up through the mat and misses your topwater, try and get a soft plastic into that newly created hole as soon as possible.

Also, keep in mind that I'm from up north and viewing things through that prism. Maybe things are different where you are due to considerably higher water temperatures. But good luck, stick with it because that place has potential. You might try some night fishing if you enjoy that type of thing.


fishing user avatarWdyCrankbait reply : 

Rage Shad B)


fishing user avatarNorth Ga Hillbilly reply : 
  On 8/5/2011 at 8:16 AM, Marty said:

You didn't say what kind of grass mats. But if you haven't tried it, I'd use some soft plastics in holes in the mats and at the edges. Also some topwaters on the mats and along the edges. If a fish comes up through the mat and misses your topwater, try and get a soft plastic into that newly created hole as soon as possible.

Also, keep in mind that I'm from up north and viewing things through that prism. Maybe things are different where you are due to considerably higher water temperatures. But good luck, stick with it because that place has potential. You might try some night fishing if you enjoy that type of thing.

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NGaHB


fishing user avatarHelluva_Engineer reply : 

BLACK buzzbait. Try near the mouth of the creek that feeds the place if the water is cooled.


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

no creek feeding the place thats the problem. and as far as the grass type goes i have no idea it looks like the natural grass growing in my area it isn't tall just floats on top


fishing user avatarBrand0n reply : 

weightless texas rigged senko is my go-to bait for heavy weeds. that or a 10" texas rigged worm.


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

here is a picture taken from the island the mat on the bottom left there is the entrance to one side of the channel that goes under the bridge. to the far right just outside of the picture is the open part of the pond that is no deeper than 3'. but this is where i have gotten the most strikes, problem is those dang mats

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fishing user avatarcatch anything reply : 

have you tried flipping itno the mats


fishing user avatarBrand0n reply : 

id probably start hanging up some grass on purpose and make holes to throw things in. i dealt with this before but the whole pond i fished was full of weeds from top to bottom and i had to make holes. i threw some 6" zoom worms in the holes and caught plenty of fish. braid, also helps cut through the rubble while pulling fish out of it


fishing user avatarOscar O. reply : 

Punch rig is another viable option.


fishing user avatarAvid Angler FL reply : 

Use a Texas-Rigged soft plastic worm in your choice. Good colors to start with would be Red Shad, Junebug, and Watermelonseed, and also Green Pumpkin. Cast parallel to the edge where the mats meet the water. Allow your bait to sink then SLOWLY give it small twitches and small rod sweeps to raise it off the bottom. Make sure you make a few hundred casts in one fishing session, that way, you can be very thorough with your approach. When the sun starts setting, it may be a good time to throw a popper. Try the Rebel Pop-R or a Hula Popper.


fishing user avatarSuthernProg reply : 

Spro Bronzeye Jr.

7ft hvy action rod

50 pd Sufix Performance Braid.

Hang on!


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

i have used heavy jigs to punch the mats it gets down there just doesn't stay down when reeling in it seems to come to the top and ride over the mats my biggest problem i think is color cover vvirtually the entire spectrum except blues purples and reds, except a lipped crank craw,


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

well finally i had success this weekend the pond is particularly low due to lack of rain, forcing the fish away from the grass and to apparently deeper open water portion of the pond, and in the shaded channel under the bridge. for one reason or another i decided to keep with my watermelon scum frog, first fish at 4.5 lb in the channel and i saw a huge fish traveling through the channel after landing the 4.5 lb, went under a grass bed near the open/ deep area of the pond i casted over the are the fish was into deep water and landed a 11.5 lb (not the fish i was after). So as it turns out every now and aginan working a frog in open water rather than just on grass or structure produces too gotta love it.


fishing user avatarhatrix reply : 

WOW 11.5# is huge!

Congrats


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

thank you and that is why he went straight into the freezer for safe keeping


fishing user avatarThe Bassinator reply : 

Release to catch another day!


fishing user avatarhatrix reply : 
  On 8/24/2011 at 12:15 PM, Mark Linderman said:

thank you and that is why he went straight into the freezer for safe keeping

If only you need the odds it takes for a fish to get over 10#. That doesn't happen every day :(


fishing user avatarNBR reply : 

Many, many, many years ago I fished a small lake with very heavy mats. We just cast an unweighted weedless hook with a pork chunk and reeled it across the mats. If the lure ran over an open pocket so much the better. Hope your heart is in good shape cause when they come through the mat to get that pork it is more than a little exciting. If you are not in a boat the issue comes in dragging the fish out of the moss.


fishing user avatarMark Linderman reply : 

well one of the main reasons i kept it, is mainly because it hasn't rained much around here lately and because there isn't anything feeding the place water it is beginning to dry up, most of the places the bass could get to at one point they cant get to anymore, limiting the food source in certain areas of the pond which we all know means the smaller fish are scarce bigger fish means more food, i figure for the most part it would make the bass eat all the smaller bass, which means no next generation, and a slow death for this bass, the pond was only 1 acer if that, now it is nearly 2 ponds with maybe 50-75 yards of water in each most of which is in direct sunlight and maybe 2 or 3 feet deep. So release to suffer and die? sounds like suffering to me, and being that this pond is so small on of that size means there is a huge gap in the bass size there wont be a lot of smaller bass thus making the medium size bass nearly non existent it was for this pond an all around better thing, now had i been in a larger pond with a more sufficient food source i would have let it go


fishing user avatarJim H. reply : 
  On 8/8/2011 at 8:41 AM, Brand0n said:

weightless texas rigged senko is my go-to bait for heavy weeds. that or a 10" texas rigged worm.

+1 on weightless texas rigged 10" worm. Pinch the head of the worm and slice off 1/4 - 1/2" of its head. That gives you a concave surface that acts just like a popping bug and adds a bit of noise to the worm as you swim it over the weed tops.


fishing user avatarJim H. reply : 
  On 8/8/2011 at 8:41 AM, Brand0n said:

weightless texas rigged senko is my go-to bait for heavy weeds. that or a 10" texas rigged worm.


fishing user avatar22wildbill22 reply : 

I would rig up two or three poles. First would be a koppers live target frog with 30-50# braid, fish it slow. My other pole to follow up any short strikes or two throw in the holes would b a reaction innovations sweet beaver. As far as color water clarity and forage base play a huge factor but I stick pretty much to four colors most of the time, hematoma, low blow,california 420, and dirty sanchez. If u have a third rod, try a stanley ribbit frog or a horny toad or some kind of buzzfrog along those lines, id have braid on this pole too


fishing user avatar22wildbill22 reply : 
  On 8/31/2011 at 6:04 AM, 22wildbill22 said:

I would rig up two or three poles. First would be a koppers live target frog with 30-50# braid, fish it slow. My other pole to follow up any short strikes or two throw in the holes would b a reaction innovations sweet beaver. As far as color water clarity and forage base play a huge factor but I stick pretty much to four colors most of the time, hematoma, low blow,california 420, and dirty sanchez. If u have a third rod, try a stanley ribbit frog or a horny toad or some kind of buzzfrog along those lines, id have braid on this pole too

If none of that works, senko, wa.cky rigged where possible, texas rigged weightless everywhere else




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