Why the Negativity? 2024
.dsaavedra. reply :
why do a lot of people seem to have a problem with storm wild eye swim shads? i think these look pretty darn good (i like the baby bass color)
fourbizz reply :
I don't know, 'cause they suck.
ABC123 reply :
Quotewhy do a lot of people seem to have a problem with storm wild eye swim shads? i think these look pretty darn good (i like the baby bass color)
Two things...
1) It doesn't matter if you or I think they look great, it's what the fish think of them.
2) The placement of the eye (for tying the line on) doesn't look quite right to me. Looks more like a 'trap then a swimbait type bait.
Gone_Phishin reply :
A few seasons back I bought a couple bags of Storm swimbaits, and they have the most god-awful, artificial, plastic smell ever.
I have run these baits under water, dried them off, and soaked them in Bang, and they still smell like the melting pot in a plastics factory.
Fish Man reply :
well in delaware and the chesapeake they work
HesterIsGod reply :
I bet that thing sinks like a rock. Nearly all storm swimbaits do. It may look cool but you wont think it cool when that treble hook is hanging up on 90 percent of the casts and the heavy weight of the lure is hanging up on the other 10 percent of the casts.
fourbizz reply :
it is a suspending bait.
5bass reply :
Quoteit is a suspending bait.
....would that be a suspending bait that sucks? ;D
burleytog reply :
Compare these baits.
Top to bottom:
Huddleston
Yum Sweetcheeks
Storm Kickn' Minnow
Mattlures Bluegill
Mattlures Baby Bass
Storm Wildeye
Castaic Platinum
Out of all of those, the Hudd and Mattlures baits are the best constructed. The Storm lures are the worst. The Wildeye is so darned head-heavy that it barely swims. It weighs a bit more than the Hudd, yet it casts like a boulder.
The only good thing about the Storm baits is that they are cheap. If you're into filling a tacklebox rather than catching fish, they're good. Otherwise they aren't worth picking up.
deadeye32. reply :
cause you can buy them at target, and I hate that place with a passion.
and they fall over on their side and swim like *****
Jimzee reply :
Burley, I had no idea you were a swimbait ho.
fourbizz reply :
He's not, he is a swimbait ho-lette. He is still in training despite my constant prodding to buy new baits ;D
mattm reply :
Dsaaverda,
The storm baits are just simply not as good. THey are not as well made, will not run as well, catch as many fish, or last as long as any of the other baits Burley posted. What they are is about to 15:1 cheaper for all the reasons as i've already listed. At the end of the day you have to decide what you are fishing for, what you can live with hanging on a stump and most importantly what you can afford. If all this points to the storm then fish it. You can't possibly hold a Mattlures ultimate bluegill and say the storm is better, or even close, but you also can't hold a storm and say there is noway i'm catching a fish with this.
F@bio reply :
They're more attractive to fisherman than to the fish, point is that storm lures try to make up for poor action with good looks.
T-rig reply :
QuoteThey're more attractive to fisherman than to the fish, point is that storm lures try to make up for poor action with good looks.
You find this attractive? http://www.hebeisen.ch/pic/30231.jpg
Storm baits are cheap and will catch fish at times. For beginners they are fine but they are not my thing.
In my opinion they suck.
.dsaavedra. reply :
t-rig ive had alot of good success with taht kickin minnow that you posted a pic of. i meant to get more at BPS but i forgot. thats the only storm thing ive had success with though.
i wasnt trying to bash anybody with this thread or anything, i honestly just wanted to know reasons why everybody doesnt like em. now i know a few.
my only complaint is that the kickin minnows dont hold up to very many fish. 
BassFishingMachine reply :
Ive heard many good things about their wigglewart though, and their Chugbug is great. I used their large wild eye swim baits for striper off the jettis and they work ok (nothing amazing). But they are cheap to throw and you can fish them around the rocks with no worries. You get caught up alot when fishing the jettis I fish so I do have these in my arsenal for cheap striper baits to toss around the rocks. But if im casting off the beach instead of rocks I'll most likely choose a bomber or a Gibbs pencil popper over these swimbaits.
As for freshwater I never tryed them, I seen a guy throwing them once and he caught a couple fish (nothing to brag about). He was throwing the 2-3 inch version I guess it was. But it didn't get me to buy a bag. For my freshwater bass fishing I like to throw only quality or things im very confident in, thats why storm swimbaits aren't in my arsenal for freshwater because I don't see them as quality (Just my opinion).
By the way I'd love to know of a more quality medium sized swimbait to throw for striper that I would use off the beach instead of the rocks. Particularly in a bunker pattern or yellow/black pattern. Sorry if im hijacking a thread but, can I get a short response, or a PM on this?
.dsaavedra. reply :
dont know if you'd call it quality, but storm has a peanut bunker here
Wayne P. reply :
The Storm Wild Eye Shiner is used quite successfully on deep fish at Lake Fork.
burleytog reply :
QuoteHe's not, he is a swimbait ho-lette. He is still in training despite my constant prodding to buy new baits ;D
In time, you shall learn to call me Master....
BassFishingMachine reply :
Hmm that peanut bunker does look cool, but Im going to resist being caught by the bait company as there known for catching fisherman with pretty looks hah. Thanks for the suggestion anyways though, might work good on cocktail blues when their feeding on the peanut bunker so I guess its worth looking into.
.dsaavedra. reply :
im not trying to support the company or pressure you or anything, but they are only like 3 or 4 dollars for a 3 pack. i think they are worth just trying, who knows, maybe they will slay the stripers and you'll have the best lure, or they could suck horribly and your in the hole 4 dollars, which isnt that much of a set back. just something to think about. :-/
guitarkid reply :
they're swimvaits do suck but for getting the feel of a swimbait they're good. try their tube with the worm inside it. these are good, and they don't smell as bad. The swimbaits have a "shrimp" scent and it does smell like plastic.
LCpointerKILLA reply :
Since you're from up north, try catching bluefish with those. Don't guys up north who fish artificial for bluefish use those little mass produced swimbaits all the time?
.dsaavedra. reply :
QuoteSince you're from up north, try catching bluefish with those. Don't guys up north who fish artificial for bluefish use those little mass produced swimbaits all the time?
yeah dude they are super productive too. people catch bluefish and rockfish all the time on storm wild eye swim shads. cheap and effective. they are probably the most popular bait in the chesapeake bay area.
7magJake reply :
Just looking at them made me go" these baits honestly suck more than any thing in this strange world we call bass fishing." Honestly a fish will look at that thing and laugh like hes swimmin along and you pop one i the water and he sees it and he goes" HES TRYING TO CATCH ME ON THIS CRAP? BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAA!!!! you gotta be kidding me a drunk bass wouldnt bite one of these" How many big bass have been caught on these pieces of fossillised feces, really maybe like 0 max?
F@bio reply :
I just found one of the shad lures that came with my brothers beginners kit. The first thing i noticed was the strong smell of plastic then the eyes fell out. :-? What a piece of *****.
TournyFish001 reply :
only two good things by storm: wiggle warts and chug bugs
Oscar O. reply :
As far as plastics go, the only storm baits that work (for me) are the rattle finesse worms. Those things catch a bass every time, the problem is that i cant find it anymore, and i've checked ebay but the calors werent the ones i wanted. They were amazing baits though, caught an 8lb fish one day and two days later caught a 5lb. Anyway, as for swimbaits, i havent had any success with them, and i dont plan to either!
FishTank reply :
QuoteCompare these baits.Top to bottom:
Huddleston
Yum Sweetcheeks
Storm Kickn' Minnow
Mattlures Bluegill
Mattlures Baby Bass
Storm Wildeye
Castaic Platinum
Out of all of those, the Hudd and Mattlures baits are the best constructed. The Storm lures are the worst. The Wildeye is so darned head-heavy that it barely swims. It weighs a bit more than the Hudd, yet it casts like a boulder.
The only good thing about the Storm baits is that they are cheap. If you're into filling a tacklebox rather than catching fish, they're good. Otherwise they aren't worth picking up.
Hey Burley,
Cool collection but what the heck are those things sitting on?
Oh ya, the Storm baits stink (suck). I have tried them in a few ponds where the bass will bite anything from popcorn to pieces of a tin can but they won't touch those Storm swimmbaits.
F@bio reply :
Looks like those are on deer skin. Looks like a good piece for tying flies.
Infidel. reply :
dsaavedra, the specfic wildeye bait you are talking about absolutely sucks. But the original swimbaits they came out with work just fine. I have caught plenty of bass over the last six years on the 4" version.
QuoteThe Wildeye is so darned head-heavy that it barely swims. It weighs a bit more than the Hudd, yet it casts like a boulder.
I don't think that bait wasn't designed to be cast. I know some guys that have really good luck trolling these for striper and I have seen pics of numerous 8-14lb largemouth that they have caught while doing so.
burleytog reply :
QuoteHey Burley,
Cool collection but what the heck are those things sitting on?
The hide from this deer...
.dsaavedra. reply :
why do deer always have their toungues hanging out when they die? every single dead deer i've seen has its toungue hanging out. lol.
F@bio reply :
Looks like someone went Rambo on those deer. ;D
BassFishingMachine reply :
Yeah, those swimbaits would probably work good for bluefish but I rarely target blues, and I know a few striper are caught off them, but they just aren't quality. I want to find a quality swimbait with amazing action that I could throw for striper, anyone know of one?
F@bio reply :
There are some nice realistic swimbaits on the market, but they go for about $30.
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BASS fisherman reply :
Just like any other lure there is a proper time and place. No lure will always catch fish.
In 2007 I picked up a pack of Storm swimbaits, and have caught around 60 fish on them, and over 30 of those fish in one day. With 1/4 of those fish being above average for the lakes I was fishing.
Just because you didn't catch fish on a lure doesn't mean it's crap, it just means you were either:
-not fishing the lure properly ie..too fast or too slow.
-fishing the lure in the wrong place whether that pertains to the water column or the actual spot (that may be void of fish).
or
-not fishing the lure in the proper conditions, ie.. water conditions, fronts, etc...
fourbizz reply :
the only time when the storms are the proper bait for largemouth are when you are too cheap/broke.
I'm broke as a joke, but you won't find me throwing those turds.
skunked_again reply :
Quoteonly two good things by storm: wiggle warts and chug bugs
i second the wiggle wart. a great lower priced crank bait.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Quotethe only time when the storms are the proper bait for largemouth are when you are too cheap/broke.I'm broke as a joke, but you won't find me throwing those turds.
I am pretty sure Randall and Senko77 throw them.
Ask LBH, just cuz you throw "value priced" baits doesnt make you an idiot.....acting like an idiot makes you one. :
farmpond1 reply :
The kickin' minnow has performed pretty well for me and a buddy of mine. Won't comment on the other products as I haven't used them.
fourbizz reply :
QuoteQuotethe only time when the storms are the proper bait for largemouth are when you are too cheap/broke.I'm broke as a joke, but you won't find me throwing those turds.
I am pretty sure Randall and Senko77 throw them.
Ask LBH, just cuz you throw "value priced" baits doesnt make you an idiot.....acting like an idiot makes you one. :
Randall throws the kicktail, that is a different bait. I don't care what senko throws.
I don't have to ask LBH, he posts something along those lines twice a day.
I didn't call anyone an idiot. But you did. Way to go big guy.
FivePoundBluegill reply :
I cannot comment on storm baits. Have only thrown a storm swimbait once in my life. I caught a 2 LB largemouth on it and thats it. I own a couple of these swimbaits and only thrown them that one time.
The only other storm lure I own is the Kickin Minnow which was reccomended by someone on this forum. I have not thrown this bait yet since I doubt it will work in the dead of winter but I plan to throw it in the spring, summer, and early fall. I have tested the kickin minnow in my pool and it seems like a good bait. Very nice action and it does not sink too fast. I think I will catch some bass on this lure...
Wayne P. reply :
I just revisited this thread and noticed the comment by 7magJake. FYI , it has produced a lot of bass including trophy size ones on Lake Fork for some guides and their clients. It's just another tool, when used for the proper application, that will produce results.
.dsaavedra. reply :
QuoteI cannot comment on storm baits. Have only thrown a storm swimbait once in my life. I caught a 2 LB largemouth on it and thats it. I own a couple of these swimbaits and only thrown them that one time.The only other storm lure I own is the Kickin Minnow which was reccomended by someone on this forum. I have not thrown this bait yet since I doubt it will work in the dead of winter but I plan to throw it in the spring, summer, and early fall. I have tested the kickin minnow in my pool and it seems like a good bait. Very nice action and it does not sink too fast. I think I will catch some bass on this lure...
the kickin minnows are great. i think i was the one who reccomended you actually ;D. my only problem with them is that they are too fragile. but i've only caught one fish on them, hooked a huge snapper next cast and it just demolished the lure, so im not sure how well they hold up to multiple fish. it was still in perfect condition after the first fish though.
SimonSays reply :
I haven't tried the exact ones that were linked on the first post but I have used their Storm WildEye Shad for stripers off docks with decent results.
My go to Bait for shore striper fishing have been Calcutta swim baits in the Golden Bunker color, works great and I haven't been skunked yet!
Randall reply :
Since I got brought into this : I do use a Storm swimbait at times and I have caught fish on it. I have caught some huge fish on it. But, If you would have asked me last year about Storm Swimbaits I would have given you an answer something like Fourbizz. ;D The reality of it is that most of them don't compare them to the better baits out there. I just happened to find one particular bait completely by accident that worked in one particular situation that is very common where I fish. Don't ask which situation cause I am not telling. :-X It is in no way a great swimbait when compared to other baits out there like the ones made by Mattlures, 3:16, Huddleston, etc. but it does work and it will work if used in the right way in the right situation. I used to use the regular wildeye shads also that are head heavy. I knew when and where to use them and many of the Lake Fork guides do to. But, if you campare it to Mattlures new shad bait the Storm bait isn't even close which is why I don't use that particular bait any longer. The reason for all the negativity is simply that there is no comparison between a high quality made swimbait made by someone who understands what makes a great big fish swimbait and a Storm swimbait. The Storm is just not going to produce the same as the better designed baits. It's not just the Storm baits but many of the copy cats and brands that don't have designs that were made to catch big fish. The best example of this is the Basstrix bait. I have yet to see any company make a copy that is as good as the Basstrix bait. All of them I have seen or tried have come up short in one way or another even though in appearance they may look the same. That doesn't mean they won't catch fish. It means that they are not as good as the Basstrix or will not replace the Basstrix so I don't really have a use for them.
fourbizz reply :
Randall have you tried the Bottomwalker?
That is a quality, head heavy bait that I really like. Pretty cheap too. Some of them have a fiber weedguard. I usually take it off, but sometimes it comes in real handy.
Randall reply :
QuoteRandall have you tried the Bottomwalker?That is a quality, head heavy bait that I really like. Pretty cheap too. Some of them have a fiber weedguard. I usually take it off, but sometimes it comes in real handy.
No, I haven't. Might have to give it a try.
KYbass1276 reply :
I have caught fish with them. I'm thinking just because there not the california high standards dosen't mean they won't catch a fish I guess I'm cheap buying a bait that catches fish. Not saying there the best but I have caught fish with them.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuotethe only time when the storms are the proper bait for largemouth are when you are too cheap/broke.I'm broke as a joke, but you won't find me throwing those turds.
I am pretty sure Randall and Senko77 throw them.
Ask LBH, just cuz you throw "value priced" baits doesnt make you an idiot.....acting like an idiot makes you one. :
Randall throws the kicktail, that is a different bait. I don't care what senko throws.
I don't have to ask LBH, he posts something along those lines twice a day.
I didn't call anyone an idiot. But you did. Way to go big guy.
You're funny. Big guy? Come on now, you are better than that.... :
Anyway, the point of the post was not to call you an idiot, but to point out that if you are "broke as a joke" and still buying $75-$300 swimbaits, then somewhere along the line your priorities are mixed up.
I picked a poor word in "idiot" and I apologize.
These baits, for a young guy just getting into throwing something other than a senko, might be just what they need.
fourbizz reply :
Just because they are cheap isn't why I'm saying not to throw them. As a matter of fact, nowhere did I say that you shoulf be throwing the real expensive baits. Like I mentioned, I will throw the River2Sea Bottomwalker, LA Slider, and Fish traps. Those are all very inexpensive baits.
Storms are just crappy baits.
I don't have to buy any new baits, I already have a couple hundred sitting around.
I am pretty d* sure I do not need someone like you telling me about my priorities.
Matt Fly reply :
Ya'll can say what you want about Storm Swimbaits.
I have caught enough to know that they work as good as most expensive baits, thus i dont' have to pay for what people call craftsmanship. I don't have to worry about trying to get that bait back either. So time isn't spent worring about a 40.00 bait, and you don't have to feel bad for throwing that kind of money away.
As for them not working in Cali, maybe true, clearer waters for the most part, but to claim they dont work because they are cheaply made. Poor answer.
I have a girlfriend entering her second year of bassing. Over 50 strom swimbait fish in 2007.
Call them crap if ya'll wish, I saw enough pros throwing them, and they make a living fishing.
So who are you gonna believe, guys who use to them to cash checks or............................
I said that there are enough pros throwing what ya'll call cheap. And I didn't say they don't throw other brands either.
Seen too many shown on all the shows to say they are crap.
Proof is in the pudding, and Storms may be cheap but i'll place this wager.
For all of ya'll who say they just fall on their side.
Come on down, 2 to 1 odds per bait, 10 dollars a bait to test.
I'm gonna clean your pockets, Storms work as well as most other swims with swimming action. I'll even buy them straight off the shelf to test.
I'm gonna clean your pockets with remarks like that. Again proof is in the pudding. I have never taken one bait tossed it out and have it swim back on its side unless you work the bait too fast.
Operator error!!! I have never judged a bait in the box, I at least get them wet.....
if you can afford to spend that kind of money on the crafted ones, you can't go wrong there either. I have seen some pretty baits, Mattslook very nice.
STorms i can fish at any depth out of the package, and you can't say that about all swims or half. No special rigging techniques.
The Storm wildeyes also don't have that treble hook, which is good when you fish TExas timber filled lakes or lakes that have lots of vegitation which most Cali lakes don't have to contend with.
Hookem
roadwarrior reply :
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.dsaavedra. reply :
Quote** MODERATOR NOTE **C'mon, you guys are seasoned veterans around here.
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lol thats what i was thinking!
Bassackward reply :
Sounds like it getting pretty serious around here! Anyways, figured I throw my piece in here. The three times I have used the storm wildeye swimbaits, I got bit on the first casts. They may be cheap, but they have caught me some big fish! Thats the beauty of fishing.....never know exactly what they want. Gotta love it either way
Redlinerobert reply :
QuoteI don't know, 'cause they suck.
;D ;D
Matt Fly reply :
Theres a difference in what a Susan B Anthony looks like and and old Paper one dollar. Funny thing about the two, they have similar things in common but arent close to the same thing except in value.
Kinda like the waters that are located throughout the US.
Some waters don't require all that craftsmanship, thus you don't need to spend a bundle on a bait that isn't pretty. Smells bad, well what baits smells good? LOL Bait sniffing experts!!!!
Afterall, when the water is stained and Bass aren't feeding primarilly on sight, who cares if a bait don't have scratches or does.
In Cali, most of those lakes are deep and clear, gin clear. Common sense tells us that Premium baits are needed to better your odds.
Common sense also tells me in Texas, that I don't need 40.oo baits or 300.oo baits to get the job done when bass don't see the bait.
Thats not saying that in Spring, that Matts bait isn't the better choice in clear shallow waters. Not that I'd use a swim bait on a bed when a bass will hit almost anything at that time of the year any way.
California fishermen are lucky, ya'll don't have alot of lakes that are filled with the timber and other obsticles that make landing double digits more difficult. Yall have deep swimming pools with open water, no hardly any obstacles to land a fish from.
Most swimbaits in Cali have belly treble hooks. Those are nice, but hang up alot in our waters, and well, some of us don't like to ruin our fishing hole by dropping a lure retreiver down there. Kinda ruins the big bass theories of being stealthy. If you are rich, which I guess you guys are, ya'll can loose quit a few of those baits fightig fish in our waters and not feel it in the pocket.
CAll us cheap and brokebacks if you like, but at least we know why its not a big deal to throw lesser baits.
I have no doubts that a Storms Wildeye Swimbait wouldn't be a wise choice in the majority of waters in Cali.
Elite Pro goes out on Fork one after noon, Kelly Jordan, Puts 9 STorm Wildeye Swimbait fish in the boat totalling over 100 pounds on 9 fish. 4 day total for BASS is 122 on 20 bass.
If there was no slot on Fork, that record could easily go down on Fork and turn around, be broken again in Cali or Florida, who knows.
Theres a ton of pros who have had success with them.
I guess that makes them cheap and broke also. LOL and they are the ones on tour. LOL!!!
That just like you don't need to spend 500.oo on a rod to catch a trophy bass either. Seen plenty caught of zebcos growing up. I guess nobody but us cheap and broke people ever used a Zebco either.
Just my opinion
Tokyo Tony reply :
I've caught stripers on the Storm swimbaits - they seem to work fine, except they do roll over a bit when you reel them fast. They do smell like plastic, but that's nothing a little MegaStrike can't fix.
I'm not a big swimbait guy, partially because I live in the Northeast, but I have had some success with the regular Storm swimbaits. A LOT of their baits really really suck though, like the "slab" baits or whatever. I bought a crappie imitation, and "crappy" doesn't even begin to describe it
fish-fighting-illini reply :
Storms swimshads work for me period. I've seen tons of occasions where they seem to work for Doug Stange of In-fisherman as well. He has shown these on numerous occasions in print and media. We know the media has the ablility to make any bait "seem" like it works though.
At roughly 50cents ea for the 3" they are a great bargain. Probably 98% of them work just fine for me. Once in a while one will run a little off but I just give them a slight adjustment and good as new.
HOIST-N-HAWGS reply :
Hudd x Matt Lures= FISH!
fish-fighting-illini reply :
Can we all agree on this... Swimbaits or whatever someone wants to call them ( Storms in particular it seems ) seem to be a very passoionate topic. It seems like plenty of diverse information has been posted on this thread. How about we just post and let the readers do what they want with the information rather than bicker with each other about which information is right. Otherwise we sound like a bunch of office women and their petty arguements.
Sound like a plan?
.dsaavedra. reply :
QuoteCan we all agree on this... Swimbaits or whatever someone wants to call them ( Storms in particular it seems ) seem to be a very passoionate topic. It seems like plenty of diverse information has been posted on this thread. How about we just post and let the readers do what they want with the information rather than bicker with each other about which information is right. Otherwise we sound like a bunch of office women and their petty arguements.Sound like a plan?
i was suprised to see this thread at the top. i thought it died a while ago.
pondhopper reply :
Around here, during the early pe-spawn, the wild eye kicks ***, especially if fished like a jig. The rest of the season ... leave it at home. To me it is a very strange bait.
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