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Spinnerbait Theory 2024


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

As we know, Bass are soical and stay in "schools", several bass swimming around together.

We also that bait fish, such as sunnies, also "school" together.

I gave this plently of thought. Spinnbaits are suposed to resemble schooling fish. Crankbaits are suposed to resemble single fish (assuming they are not craw colored)

Schools of bass feed on schools of baitfish, right? So wouldn't it make sense to have lures resemble larger schools of fish?

When a bass sees a small fish, it thinks "that would be yummy, if i could catch it." When a bass sees several small fish, it thinks "Dinner time. eat the easiest one."

My idea is this. Some how have several spinnerbaits being retreived at the same speed, same depth, all within 1ft of eachother. Basicly "Schooling" spinnerbaits.

I drew this picture to explain this. The red dots represent bass.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/catfishguy/spinnertheroy1.jpg

My theory is that when a bass or a school of bass sees a large group of small baitfish, it triggers their "dinnerbell" more than just one fish swimming along. Notice i said my THEORY. This is just an idea, i'm not saying any of it is fact.

As seen in the picture, there are 4 spinnerbaits being retrieve next to eachother aproching a wooden structure holding several bass. If the bass see the the lures approaching, my theory is that atleast some of them will move to investigate.

Of course, there are problems with my theory. The lines will become intangled if a fish is cought. It is difficult to retrieve 4 spinnerbaits right next to eachother, and it requires 4 people.

But, i have an idea that will solve the secconed problem and hopfuly the first.

Have a 3way swivel atached to your line. Depending on how many spinnerbaits are being used, you might need to put another on each swivel that doesnt have the knott on it. To help provent line tagles, put steel leaders on each outgoing swivel. Atach line to the leades, then spinnerbaits to the line.

The method is pictured here:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/catfishguy/spinnertheroy2.jpg

Of course, this methed also has its problems. it takes great force to retreive 3 spinnerbaits on one rod. Lines can still get intagled, and more that one fish could be cought at the same time, causeing exess pressure.

You could use crankbaits, but the treble hooks would create massive tangles.

However, i plan on giving this theory a try ASAP. Hey, you never know. :o

Anyway, what do you think? maybe it would work, maybe not?

maybe try this theory with buzzbatits? You have to admit it would be fun to see your buzzbaits get chomped on one by one.

and as i said before, this is a THEORY, nothing more and nothing less.

Please leave feedback ;)

Matt


fishing user avatarDan: reply : 

I don't think you would be able to cast more than one spinner bait on one rod. It seems like if you cast it with any sort of distance it would undoubtedly get tangled. It sounds like a good idea, but it might just be too complex for one person.


fishing user avatarWhiteMike1018 reply : 

I think it would definately work but i also think its highly unnecessary. The only advantage i see to this theory is trying to catch more than one fish at a time. Even if the fish did hit all 3 spinnerbaits, you would have 3 fish on one line! they would get entangled and maybe break eachother off, if they were anything over 2lbs it would be very hard to lip them all at once right? The idea of 4 people throwing 4 spinnerbaits is kind of neat though, but the idea with the 3 way swivel is just ludacris LOL. But hey you have nothing to loose right? so why not give it a try. -WM  :o


fishing user avatarBassassasin12 reply : 

sounds cool buuuuuuuuuuuttttttt, dont think it will work.


fishing user avatarSyfer420 reply : 

sounded great to me, although deos need a little testing and troublshoooting. Ill give you a scenario, lets say more thatn one bass hits the rig 1-2 pounders would be hard but not impossible to land but two fish above that weight would be fighting so hard i cant see you landing them for one reason or another. Also you arm would be dead anfter an hour of fishing with several spinner baits worth of resistence perhaps, inlines? that would signifcantly reduce the drag wada think? and as for tangling ever see a booyah buzz bait with extended arm? you can make them with that semi stiff wire so they dont tangle


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 
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I think it would definately work but i also think its highly unnecessary. The only advantage i see to this theory is trying to catch more than one fish at a time. Even if the fish did hit all 3 spinnerbaits, you would have 3 fish on one line! they would get entangled and maybe break eachother off, if they were anything over 2lbs it would be very hard to lip them all at once right? The idea of 4 people throwing 4 spinnerbaits is kind of neat though, but the idea with the 3 way swivel is just ludacris LOL. But hey you have nothing to loose right? so why not give it a try. -WM  :o

Acualy i have already tried it using 4 people. Myself, Fisherguy12, Bassholbuster14 and his younger brother did it.

IT was fun, we would all casy at the same time aiming for a sertain object, like a leaf.

And yes, your right about the lines getting tangled and snapping with multible fish on. Of course, i doubt a bass would hit one of the spinnerbaits once you had a fish on.

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sounded great to me, although deos need a little testing and troublshoooting. Ill give you a scenario, lets say more thatn one bass hits the rig 1-2 pounders would be hard but not impossible to land but two fish above that weight would be fighting so hard i cant see you landing them for one reason or another. Also you arm would be dead anfter an hour of fishing with several spinner baits worth of resistence perhaps inlines? that would signifcantly reduce the drag wada think?

Yes inlines would be less drag, but you would also have to run them closer together to get the "school" effect, cousing more line tangles.


fishing user avatarSyfer420 reply : 

reread my post i thik the booyah wire is key to this invention


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 

In theory it sounds decent, but if you get 1 snagged, and cant get it unsnagged, you lose them all.  I once found 2 crankbaits that someone had tried your idea with, and lost.  I do think it would be good if you could figure out how to keep them from tangling.  Give it a try, you never know untill then.  I have done that with 2 different flukes while smaillie fishing.  You could rig up different colored spinnerbaits, and see if they hit one color more than the others.  I like the 3 way swivel idea.  I have read books where they suggest similar setups with crankbaits, and a grub in front of the crank.  


fishing user avatarWhiteMike1018 reply : 
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In theory it sounds decent, but if you get 1 snagged, and cant get it unsnagged, you lose them all.  I once found 2 crankbaits that someone had tried your idea with, and lost.  I do think it would be good if you could figure out how to keep them from tangling.  Give it a try, you never know untill then.  I have done that with 2 different flukes while smaillie fishing.  You could rig up different colored spinnerbaits, and see if they hit one color more than the others.  I like the 3 way swivel idea.  I have read books where they suggest similar setups with crankbaits, and a grub in front of the crank.  

Exactly my point, why if you are on the boat ALONE why not just cast 1 spinnerbait, catch a fish, than cast again, catch another fish and repeat. Dont try to overdue it.


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

I have a updated my theory.

as seen below, there is a flexable wire, about 1.5ft long, with your line attached in the middle. you then have a three lines that go to the spinnerbaits from the top, middle, and bottem of the wire. The line going from the wire to the bait would only be about 1ft long, greatly reducing tangles.

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Exactly my point, why if you are on the boat ALONE why not just cast 1 spinnerbait, catch a fish, than cast again, catch another fish and repeat. Dont try to overdue it.

The purpose of my idea is not to catch fish faster, but that more bait fish triggers bass' feeding instink more than a single baitfish.


fishing user avatarSyfer420 reply : 

someone owes me money when they get riiich!!! hahaha lol ;D ;D seriously if the spinners are small enough thats just crazy enough to work


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am almost positive Ive seen a rig like that before.  Possibly for saltwater fishing, but I don't know.  I do know I have seen it before.


fishing user avatarWhiteMike1018 reply : 

matt why dont you just get a commercial fishing net and run it across the lake ffs. lol


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

if my wire idea works and prevents line tangles, then only one problem remains. (that we know of) Having to reel that rig in.

And i have and idea to solve that.

Trolling. :o

Put that rig on heavy braid, on a 7' 6' Heavy rod. Cast her out and begin to troll.

Hey, you never know, if might work. I plan on building and testing the rig tomarrow.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am almost positive Ive seen a rig like that before.  Possibly for saltwater fishing, but I don't know.  I do know I have seen it before.

Yes they have large rigs like that for saltwater. But the purpose of this rig is to have anymany lures as possible as close as possible to eachother, to imitate a school of baitfish, thus triggering bass feeding habbits.

Hopfully it will work, and if it does i'll have my camera!


fishing user avatarWhiteMike1018 reply : 
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if my wire idea works and prevents line tangles, then only one problem remains. (that we know of) Having to reel that rig in.

And i have and idea to solve that.

Trolling. :o

Put that rig on heavy braid, on a 7' 6' Heavy rod. Cast her out and begin to troll.

Hey, you never know, if might work. I plan on building and testing the rig tomarrow.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am almost positive Ive seen a rig like that before.  Possibly for saltwater fishing, but I don't know.  I do know I have seen it before.

Yes they have large rigs like that for saltwater. But the purpose of this rig is to have anymany lures as possible as close as possible to eachother, to imitate a school of baitfish, thus triggering bass feeding habbits.

Hopfully it will work, and if it does i'll have my camera!

Hpw are you going to troll in that canoe?


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 

I think it sounds like a good idea.  The rigs I saw like that were the same size in proportion to the spinnerbaits, and your drawing.  Give it a try, like I said before you never know untill you try it.  

What are you going to make the wire from?  And how will you connect the lures to it?  

If spinnerbaits work, you could also rig it with 2-3 of the same crankbaits, but in different colors.  


fishing user avatarClaude reply : 

Sounds pretty good...

Except one thing, fish school (I thought) for safety, the more fish there are, the more it confuse's the predator, on which one to grab, and sometimes he ends up grabbing none.

But other than that I think it would work.


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

OK guys here is the latest scoop.

I have a Wire coat hanger bent out and into shape, it looks awsome. All i need to do is get the wire cutters and do some triming.

The problem with wire hanger if that it is heavy and thick. I want the wire to be as un-noticeable as possible.

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Hpw are you going to troll in that canoe?

Two people paddle, one person mans the rods. :o

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If spinnerbaits work, you could also rig it with 2-3 of the same crankbaits, but in different colors.

I think crankbaits would snag eachothers lines like nuts. I think this rig is limited to buzz and spinnerbaits.


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 

Sorry to get off topic here, but I think it needs to be brought to attention.

Bass DO NOT school. " A school of fish moves in unison, and live together.  Bass swim and feed together, but in groups more accuratly called aggregations.  They do not coordinate movements, but do prowl an area at the same time.  Their feeding efforts aren't coordinated, and they don't remain in the same group.  Therefore, bass don't exhibit true schooling behavior.  

 Bass do however group together in certain areas when actively feeding when drawn by the same food source.  If you catch one bass, usually more are in the same area. Bass of the same size, and ability also group together."

So remember aggregate, not school. Bass get together in aggregations, not true schools.  It is an incorrect myth, that continues to be passed along.

The preceding text was taken from the In-Fisherman handbook of strategies for Largemouth bass.


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

Yes, bass may note "school", but this rig should work as good one on bass than on several.

Ok folks, here is the first rig, made from a bent coat hanger!

*drum roll*

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It would be perfect if the wire was thinner.... :-[ But oh well, this is a work in progress.

yes, i know that a hanger will not hold up to a big bass, but there will be inprovments. I am thinking of useing the long coil of wire that holds together a notebook.

The whole rig weighs 4ozs. 1oz for each spinnerbait and 1 for the wire.

I will be adding a small weight to the last loop that should be the furthest down, to keep the rig ballanced.

I'll work on it late into the night, and update you tomarrow. :o

Matt


fishing user avatarScroGG ToGG reply :  93854re4.jpgtake this idea and run with it
fishing user avatarguest reply : 

I think it is absoulutely brilliant.  I love when people get these ideas.  Problem is so many people have fishing for so long it is very difficult to come up with something that is truly unique.  but that is not the issue.  What matters is that you are THINKING>  this has practically become a lost art in America. So kudo's to you.  Keep at it.

PS.  Bass Fisherman is correct.  There is a saltwater rig called an "umbrella rig" that utilizes the principle of imitating schooling baitfish.

Here is the Panther Marin version.  There are quite a few others.  run a search, but only to give you ideas of what others have done. Do Not let it deter you.  Keep on keeping on.

http://www.panthermartin.com/LureGroup.aspx?lureGroupID=30


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

hmm. that umbrella thing-a-ma-jing is intresting. I wonder what type of material they use for the leaders that run the the lures. It looks likes some type of metal leader.

I think i will buy some metal leaders and use those instead of just plain line. I bet the leaders reduces tangles by a TON.

The umbrella rig gave me another idea.

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Put two swimbaits on the rig to give the bass a striking point. This will also help weight it down to keep it under the surface.

Matt


fishing user avatarFishie3 reply : 

The wire would spook bass where I fish....get something thinner....


fishing user avataryurstruely reply : 

heres a nother way to do this in my own opinion get acces to live bait hook 4-5 shads and just place them out in the watter all together off the same line, do not use a rod and place them connected to the boat. When u locate where there runign together throw the spinner bait among them non stop any fish cought on the live bait can be kept but in a tournament throw live bait bass back and keep the spinner bait fish. The thory i have is alot like deer huntign with a food plot,use the smalest hooks posible for the shad and aloww them to easity slip off. It like you said diner time for bass... I hope this idea will help, im kind of in a togough situation here at home and this is just a spare the moment idea, from trying not to think of some difficult things right now.


fishing user avataryurstruely reply : 

they also make a really long spinner bait by booyah with a 2 ft wire you could attach monipule spinners on it and have bout 6 in a straight line that woudl work but once a bass hits any of them then you have to real in quickly. you could uses trailer hook rubber bands to keep the other spinner baits from slideing hopefully this helps you out laot more than my original goofy idea!


fishing user avatarGeorge Welcome reply : 

"Bass DO NOT school. " A school of fish moves in unison, and live together.  Bass swim and feed together, but in groups more accuratly called aggregations.  They do not coordinate movements, but do prowl an area at the same time.  Their feeding efforts aren't coordinated, and they don't remain in the same group.  Therefore, bass don't exhibit true schooling behavior."

The above is 100% wrong!!!!!!  


fishing user avatarGeorge Welcome reply : 

Most states would consider a rig such as you are suggesting illegal.

Another thought: spinner baits are reaction baits, not feeding baits.


fishing user avatarGrey Wolf reply : 

In Ohio you are allowed only three hooks per line . I would suggest you check your states fishing regulations and go from there.


fishing user avatarfishbear reply : 

A 7'6" heavy rod probably will not be enough.... maybe find an 8 ft. salmon trolling rod, with roller guides, and 120 lb. test braid, and a Daiwa 250H reel.    Otherwise you may never bring it in even with a small fish on it.  There is gonna be a lot of drag there.

One thing is for sure, you will build up your arm strength casting and retrieving that thing...  :o


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 
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In Ohio you are allowed only three hooks per line . I would suggest you check your states fishing regulations and go from there.

In NJ you are allowed 9 hooks each line.

Matt


fishing user avatarMatt Fly reply : 

Some things that do work, sometimes.

I have run a spinner bait with 12-18 inch leader and small in-line spinner such as a shyster or rooster tail with no problems.  Instead of the stinger hook, run a teaser.

Some people tie a teaser fly on top waters, and they do work.

Some people also remove the front treble on certain cranks and also put an in-liner spinner of another small leader, quick, thn billed baits works better than say a dd-22.

Every one of these I tried, I did so in a swimming pool first to see how it ran and what action I need to give it to swim right.

The wire ideal works in theory, but doesn't work so well in producing with coat hangers.

I tried similar wires to get "thinner", but found they collaspe down due to the drag they create.

Their are pre-rigged baits on the market for ever that simulate what you are trying to do.      The salt water speck rig is just two bucktail jigs on different length leaders.

Salt water umbrellas are common, but remember the ocean is usually clear of snags and running these set-ups are easy in open waters.

I don't know the true definition of schooling fish, but do know that at certain times of the year, such as fall, the fish  gather in packs or schools and chase shad together.   The fry of this year stay schooled together most of the year, you know the old saying, "strength in numbers", its nothing to see the small bass throughout the summer schooling on minnows all summer.

There are times that the bass are as wide and long as a football field busting shad on the surface, some say how do you know they are just blacks and not stripers and whites.    I reply, Fork has no stripers or whites.    

Hookem

Matt.


fishing user avatarShakes reply : 

No. I completely disagree with your theory. While its creative and optimistic, it really isn't needed. If you fish a spinnerbait like I do, then the school theory doesn't apply. I believe the correct technique for fishing a spinnerbait is to make it appear that your bait is injured in some way.

Run the spinnerbait into things. Timber, lilly roots... anything that a normal and healthy baitfish wouldn't do. Bloom the skirt at times, and let it fall at times. An injured prey is always preferred over a baitfish that bass can't catch.


fishing user avatarKenDammit28 reply : 

I would have to vote no on the rig as well..  Its a novel thought but its not one that would likely produce any more results than normally fishing a spinnerbait.  As a couple others have said, they are reaction baits, not necessarily "feeding" baits.  Not too many lures really are a "feeding" bait, as it is.  The whole method of fishing a spinnerbait, that many people don't often remember, is that being a little erratic helps the catch.  There are times when a straight out and straight in retrieve is possibly the best option, other times where it will not produce a single tick.


fishing user avatarChris reply : 

Many years ago a guy took a mirror out and started teasing a cat with it. He noticed that the cat would run around and chase a reflected light on the ground even though it didn't look like anything. The guy then had the idea that if he created something that had many small mirrors on it that could be dragged behind the boat that the many reflections would look like a school of baitfish. He then tested his theory by making a soda bottle with glued mirrors on it with something like a fin to make the bottle turn while being dragged and also had a place to tie a lure on the end of it. He found that it did draw the attention of the bass and it did catch fish. The person was Doug Hannon.


fishing user avataryurstruely reply : 

I do believe this a is a theory that he wishes to test not a theory on how bass school, object here is to become a school of bait fish to attract the bass..... If you think bass dotn school then your wrong, besides feeding they stick together in summer and winter in deep water, they dont stay with the same school 100% of the time but they school until around 3Lbs or more then they no longer have to compete as much for food. He is right about a bait that woudl imatate a GROUP OF BAIT FISH THAT WOUld MOST DEFINATELY DRAw IN BASS. For those of you disaggreeing with this technique then you have neevr heard of these types of rigs in salt water fishing, it isnt rare to hit stripers on this technique either dont crush this mans dreams, hes mearly usein his thought proces to create somethin beutiful respect it and move on if you dotn liek the idea dotn add a post on his thread. Simple as that respect his ability to think out side the box since many of you just disagree with it then i dare you to challenge yourself to think out side the box too........


fishing user avatarScroGG ToGG reply : 
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In Ohio you are allowed only three hooks per line . I would suggest you check your states fishing regulations and go from there.

In NJ you are allowed 9 hooks each line.

Matt

How do you find information that is state specific like this? obviously, i checked NC G&WL site but no luck


fishing user avatarsenile1 reply : 

Bucketmouthangler13,

Even if this doesn't work, I think it's great that you're thinking.  If one thing doesn't work, the mind always seems to find another that will.  It's a matter of having the determination to stick with it.  All great inventions usually evolve from many, many failures.  


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 
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In Ohio you are allowed only three hooks per line . I would suggest you check your states fishing regulations and go from there.

In NJ you are allowed 9 hooks each line.

Matt

How do you find information that is state specific like this? obviously, i checked NC G&WL site but no luck

www.njfishandwildlife.com

Yesterday i tested the first rig. It didn't tangle much at all, maybe 2 casts out of 15.

Yes, it was somewhat difficult to retrieve, but it was doable.

The spinnerbaits swam near eathother, and it looks Sooooooo awsome.

I only got about 15 casts with it, becuase i snagged it on some line and lost all three spinnerbaits. :'(

I hate that snag. I have lost tons of lures on it. Someone threw in like 50lb line and it got cought on the rocks, making it inpossible to get lures unsnagged.

I didn't exept to catch any fish. I using below the dam where the current is extreamly fast now, and i doubt there is any bass in there.

But oh well, i will build another model once i replenish my spinnerbait supply. I need to use a stronger, thinner wire. Got any ideas?

Thanks

Matt


fishing user avatarDan: reply : 
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In Ohio you are allowed only three hooks per line . I would suggest you check your states fishing regulations and go from there.

In NJ you are allowed 9 hooks each line.

Matt

How do you find information that is state specific like this? obviously, i checked NC G&WL site but no luck

see if you can find a rules and regulation booklet or something. I know Virginia publishes a a new Fishing Rules and Guidelines booklet every year with updated creel limits, license information, fishing locations, and species identifications.


fishing user avatarsenko_77 reply : 

bucket, i only read the first page of replies, so im not sure if someone had already suggested this. but anyway, i like the idea. its pretty cool. if your still on a 3-way swivel idea, then drop it. the problem with fishing two baits with a 3-way swivel is if you hook to fish and they go opposite directions your line will snap every time. garunteed. you said something in one of your posts about once one bass is hooked up others wont bite the other spinnerbaits. not true. there have been countless times that i have hooked a fish on a fluke, jerkbait, crankbait, etc and as im lipping the fish theres 10 others following it trying to grab the lure out of its mouth.

i like your wire idea. i know you know that its to thick and you have to find something thinner but strong enough for multiple bass. i would use piano wire. its the wire that some spinnerbait companies use. its super tough and your gonna need some strength and some needle nose pliers to make the line ties on each end of it. you can buy piano wire for dirt cheap at most quality hobby stores.

now, i have an idea on how to make the baits less "tangly" let's say you have 3 spinnerbaits rigged on. how about one of them has dual colorado blades, one has a willow and colorado, and the other has double willow. that way they all ride in different positions in the water column. the double colorado will want to rise while the double willow will sink more due to less resistence and the willow/colorado will sit even the whole way in. not sure if you understand what im saying but i think it could work if you played around and found the right blades for them. you could also make the double colorado have a really thick skirt so it sinks slower and the double willow have a real thin skirt so it sinks faster.


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 
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now, i have an idea on how to make the baits less "tangly"  let's say you have 3 spinnerbaits rigged on.  how about one of them has dual colorado blades, one has a willow and colorado, and the other has double willow.  that way they all ride in different positions in the water column.  the double colorado will want to rise while the double willow will sink more due to less resistence and the willow/colorado will sit even the whole way in.  not sure if you understand what im saying but i think it could work if you played around and found the right blades for them.  you could also make the double colorado have a really thick skirt so it sinks slower and the double willow have a real thin skirt so it sinks faster.

Yes i was trying this on the first model. the two lower baits where willow bladed, and the top one was colorado.

However, the tagles where accuring during the cast. Once the baits got in the water it wouldn't tangle. And remember, the purpose of this rig is to have any many baits as possible as close to eachother as possible.

Matt


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Take a look at this, maybe it will help:

http://www.9erslures.com/


fishing user avatarnboucher reply : 

Matt, why aren't you out getting high or vegging in front of the TV like other guys your age?  :o

I'm in awe of you. Your creativity and determination are a wonder to behold. And that photo of your rig hanging on the doorframe is a classic.

Keep at it, man.  


fishing user avatarguest reply : 

TRY IT, get out the wire cutters and get with it. The umbrella rig is already out there and it works so why won't yours? Make a couple prototypes and see what does and does not work, make your modifications and go again. Do not give up an idea because someone else says it won't work.

When asked about how he invented the filament for the electric light, Thomas Edison replied " I found over 3,000 things that did not work".


fishing user avatarliquidsoap reply : 

Tinker with the idea a little bit, we have had 4 or 5 bass go after our spinnerbait at once.  Once we even almost netted 2 fish and one wasnt even hooked using a spinnerbait  :o

I like the idea, but not how it looks...

I spreader that we use for perch in ohio would do the trick?  But that would only mean 2 spinnerbaits....

I think the rig would work better with buzzbaits.. ;)

That is if you prefected your hanger


fishing user avatarliquidsoap reply : 
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Thake a look at this, maybe it will help:

http://www.9erslures.com/

Wonder if anyone tryed to troll that in freshwater???

I doubt it would work but who knows...


fishing user avatarOther. reply : 

Sort of like a few of the pictures posted by other members only 1 hook is really needed. That one lure with hook in it resembles the slowest fish in the school. If bass are anything like lions they are going to go for the slowest one in the pack (this case school)


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

Im going to make another one as soon as i can get some more spinnerbaits. I'm still looking for good wire that is strong and thick.

And i dont think this idea will work good with buzzbaits. Frogs dont school together.

However, it would create more noise and action, so maybe the bass will still hit it.


fishing user avatarliquidsoap reply : 

Buzzbait = Scared or injured shad  :o

By the way http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=8560&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults


fishing user avatarcajun1977. reply : 

you can try the buzzbaits but you aint gonna reel that fasy enough to keep it up near the surface   it would be to heavy with 3 or 4 buzzbaits tied on


fishing user avatarClaude reply : 
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Buzzbait = Scared or injured shad  ;)

By the way http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=8560&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults

3' long though.

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Matt, why aren't you out getting high or vegging in front of the TV like other guys your age? :o

I'm in awe of you. Your creativity and determination are a wonder to behold. And that photo of your rig hanging on the doorframe is a classic.

Keep at it, man.

We are home schooled, we have 1 to 1, or 1 to 4, student teacher ratio.

Dude I will keep an eye open at home depot for you, they might have something.

Is piano wire thick enough? Anyone else remeber where else piano wire was used for fishing???

I will give you a hint it was in a steven spielberg (sp?)( film.


fishing user avatar5bass reply : 
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"Bass DO NOT school. " A school of fish moves in unison, and live together. Bass swim and feed together, but in groups more accuratly called aggregations. They do not coordinate movements, but do prowl an area at the same time. Their feeding efforts aren't coordinated, and they don't remain in the same group. Therefore, bass don't exhibit true schooling behavior."

The above is 100% wrong!!!!!!

I agree with you George.....I've seen plenty of bass schooled up in my lifetime.More smallmouth than largemouth but still they both school up.


fishing user avatarScroGG ToGG reply : 

i really like your theory but i was thinking about it and thought this could be one route to go. your going for the schooling baitfish look right? your not trying to catch multiple fish at one time, right? so you dont need multiple hooks. i was thinking you could actually make the rig ON the spinnerbait. here are my sketchy drawings. since im not that good of an artist, your gonna have to use your imigination (that you obviously have) and combine the two drawings into one spinnerbait. the final product would have two sets of blades going vertically, and two sets of blades slanted horizontally.

verticalbladesul6.png

horizontalgr3.png

PS. i just thought about adding a wire set of blades identical to the top drawing , coming off the "chin" of the weighted head. yes?

Double PS. since there would be so many blades weighting the bait down, maybe make them out of something really light like aluminum? or something


fishing user avatarScroGG ToGG reply : 

maybe like this.. :-/

verticalbladeszg6.png


fishing user avatarcart7t reply : 

That rig sort of looks like a tree rig they use for trolling for various saltwater species.  Some lure company came out with a spinnerbait with about 5 blades on it a few years ago. I don't think it's around anymore.  


fishing user avatarPond-Pro reply : 
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Quote from George Welcome on Oct 19th, 2006, 3:18am:

"Bass DO NOT school. " A school of fish moves in unison, and live together.  Bass swim and feed together, but in groups more accuratly called aggregations.  They do not coordinate movements, but do prowl an area at the same time.  Their feeding efforts aren't coordinated, and they don't remain in the same group.  Therefore, bass don't exhibit true schooling behavior."

The above is 100% wrong!!!!!!  

I agree with you George.....I've seen plenty of bass schooled up in my lifetime.More smallmouth than largemouth but still they both school up.

Yeah, bass definetly DO school.

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Frogs dont school together.
  ;D that would be funny though! ;D
fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 

hmm BpileB, very intresting idea.

how about this, on a larger scale:

idea4.jpg


fishing user avatarScroGG ToGG reply : 

that would work too, i was just trying to keep the blades as "over or under" the hook as possible to prevent short strikes or blade strikes ya know?


fishing user avatarSPEEDBEAD. reply : 

There is a spinnerbait out there right now that has the extra wire in the head....trying to locate, will report back.


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 

Have you ever seen a bait fish ball?  Do bass act like that?  NO


fishing user avatarWhiteMike1018 reply : 

I think we should all hop on a new topic and stop posting on this thread, its a good idea but inprobable until someone actually tries it


fishing user avatarBucketmouthAngler13 reply : 
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I think we should all hop on a new topic and stop posting on this thread, its a good idea but inprobable until someone actually tries it

someone has tried it, and is still trying it. :-?

I think notebook coil wire is perfect. Strong, thin and light. Making a new rig out of my old note book tomarrow.... :o


fishing user avatarguest reply : 

I said it before.  "Go for it dude"

Most people are encouraging and some are nay saying.  At this stage of the game neither matters.

You need to make some prototypes, photo them, fish them, report on the results and get our feedback.

Otherwise I'm afraid this thread will become just a dreamers "I'm gonna" fantasy.




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