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fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

How much credence do you put into the recommendations of pro anglers when it comes to gear? After tournaments they tell us what they used to catch the fish and it's always the baits and gear of their sponsors. I wonder how much of that is actually true?

 

Or, perhaps these guys are good enough that if you give them any old worm they can catch a lunker with it, and so they'll use whatever gear their sponsor gives them. 

 

After the 2004 Classic I bought a bunch of stone jigs because that's what Iaconelli used. I think it was 2004 - don't bother correcting me if I'm wrong; doesn't matter. Anyway, nice jigs. I caught a lot of fish on them, but I wonder if it was the jig itself or that I was simply presenting it right. I know for a fact that I've caught more bass on the BPS senko clones than actual Senkos. 

 

So maybe it's really is all about the fishing and less about the brand, just so long as you don't have a crap brand. Pound for pound maybe it's all the same, but we have more confidence with a certain brand. I know that if I'm not using a Stone Jig but rather a different brand if that's the reason why I didn't catch a fish on the first ten casts. 


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 

To be honest, not much. I did put stock into some for

a while, but after spending $$ on their gear hawking

I came to learn those things didn't seem work for me.

 

I find more help on this forum than from the pros. :) 


fishing user avatarScarborough817 reply : 

i find i learn more from raw footage of pros and reading than anything else


fishing user avatar12poundbass reply : 

Their marketing works very well! I've seen comments before on Bassmaster where a pro shows off their boat and show their "catch all box" and readers comment "they have brand x in there, they're not sponsored by them". I really don't buy into it anymore either, I buy what I want to try and try it. I'm with Darren I've learned and trust more on here than I do from someone getting a check to push a product.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Turn off the volume, and watch what they're doing, and with what....


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 4:39 AM, J Francho said:

Turn off the volume, and watch what they're doing, and with what....

 

And if you record it, play it at double speed, then add Benny Hill

music. Especially if it is Bill Dance's outtakes. Hilarious :) 

 

No really, good advice. I've done it with one or two shows back 

when I used to get them. Now I get zero shows with basic cable.


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 

Very little, because they are paid to promote their sponsors. Watch the on-the-water footage closely, as well as some of the photo coverage on the websites. Many are using what they say, just not to the degree you might think, and there are always a few baits they are trying to keep quiet about, or that are local/regionally "hot" they'll use for an event. When it's all said and done, I usually just call up Wheeler and ask for the scoop ? 

 

-T9


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

I've always been weak at flipping and so have been watching a lot of videos on it lately. Especially Scott Martin as he really goes through step by step on the gear setup and he's not a drone to listen to. 

 

Sometimes if a guy uses a certain technique that I am trying to emulate it does help to have the same gear as he does. And so I bought the same $2.99 baits and hooks he was using. Heck - if he can make me a better fisherman by showing me how to do it then I don't mind spending a few dollars to match the gear. On the other hand, he uses an Okuma rod and I've always been a G. Loomis guy. I posted a thread on the tackle section of the forum about this, so if anyone has a minute please check that out.

 

I agree about the catch-all box. Not everyone is sponsored by, say, Senko but I'll bet almost all the pros use them.


fishing user avatarSam reply : 

You have to listen to what they say very carefully.

 

They do not say they caught them all or just the big ones on the baits and tackle they are hawking.  They say they used the baits and tackle in the tournament.

 

Ike is a master at promoting his sponsors' products. So listen to what Ike says at the Classic's weigh in or an interview and focus on his words.

 

 


fishing user avatarIndianaFinesse reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 5:11 AM, Team9nine said:

When it's all said and done, I usually just call up Wheeler and ask for the scoop ? 

 

-T9

Btw, in case you haven't seen, Wheeler's sitting in second place on Cherokee right now.:)  

To the op, I don't pay attention to what the pro's are claiming to use either.  Seen to many instances where they claim that they only use brand x crankbaits, then when the pro switches sponsors that new brand of cranks is now the best.

 

Edit, basstracker showed wheelee in 2nd, but it turns out he's actually in 5th.

Edited by IndianaFinesse
Incorrect info.

fishing user avatarSenko lover reply : 

Take all of KVD's sponsors away and watch how fast he'll be promoting other equipment.....It's all in the money.


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

Another thing - back in the days before youtube became so prevalent we had to learn everything from magazines and watching fellow anglers. I never bothered reading too much into what they say. Once there was an article on "kicker fish". Once you reach your string limit you go after that kicker fish. Of course it was all nonsense. Who doesn't keep trying to catch that bigger fish after the limit is reached? yet these guys went on for two pages about how important the kicker fish is. It was ridiculous and I felt stupider for reading it. The pros back then weren't giving away any real information like - what do you do to get that kicker fish?

 

Now, with so much competition for video views I believe these guys are being more honest with what they're doing. Of course they're going to push their sponsors, but the content is much better than the half-hour shows they had in the early 2000's. They really go through things step by step and tell me why I am doing it. I think the latter is the most important thing. Early 2000's all they did was throw their sponsor bait on there and catch fish all day. Now they're showing you how.


fishing user avatarfishballer06 reply : 

I pay more attention to what the pro's are throwing that they AREN'T sponsored by...

 

There are pro's out there who don't have reel sponsors. Take a look at what they're using. 

 

There are pro's that are sponsored by crankbait company "X", and yet you see them reel a fish in and you notice brand "Y" in the fishes mouth. A minute later the pro is telling you how great brand "X" crankbaits are and how they helped him catch that last fish. 

 

Happens all the time...


fishing user avatarblckshirt98 reply : 

When it comes to actual gear, not a whole lot of credence if it's one of their sponsors because it's a part of their profession to sell and market the sponsor's gear.  If you think about it, every major equipment company has had pro anglers they sponsor that have been very successful so it's probably not the equipment that makes them all so successful.  I give more credence when they talk about technique/location/patterns/etc because that's really where the expertise of a pro can help, not in the equipment they use.


fishing user avatarThe Bassman reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 4:53 AM, Darren. said:

 

And if you record it, play it at double speed, then add Benny Hill

music. Especially if it is Bill Dance's outtakes. Hilarious :) 

 

No really, good advice. I've done it with one or two shows back 

when I used to get them. Now I get zero shows with basic cable.

 

  On 2/10/2017 at 5:47 AM, blckshirt98 said:

 

Agree completely.  You might have to explain who Benny Hill was.


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 6:11 AM, The Bassman said:

 

Agree completely.  You might have to explain who Benny Hill was.

 

I dunno, don't wanna corrupt this young generation :D 


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 

I believe it all.

 

Cause if'n it's on the dern Telemavision , Interwebs or Snapface - it's gots to be true . . . .

 

:smiley:

A-Jay

 


fishing user avatarwhitwolf reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 4:29 AM, Darren. said:

 

 

I find more help on this forum than from the pros. :) 

 

Exactly! One of the greatest aspects of this site is how Information Is shared freely and those that share do so with no monetary motive. :)


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

Really depends on who we talking about, I know several Pros & they talk fishing like we do here.

 

As sales pitches for gear I don't listen to any of them or watch videos.

 

I get more honest opinions on gear from Y'all ;)


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 6:54 AM, whitwolf said:

 

Exactly! One of the greatest aspects of this site is how Information Is shared freely and those that share do so with no monetary motive. :)

 

Very True

Although ~  Sometimes 'The Posey' is more determined than 'The Dollar'

:smiley:

A-Jay


fishing user avatarYeajray231 reply : 

I just rip off @A-Jay 's  lures. You can creep on his posts in the fishing reports. See what he caught and how he did so. Then boom; stickin the fat mommas


fishing user avatarnoway reply : 

What topwater was Chris Lane fishing on the last MLF episode?

 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 7:17 AM, noway said:

What topwater was Chris Lane fishing on the last MLF episode?

 

He was using a Whopper Plopper in one episode I watched.

Tom


fishing user avatarGotfishyfingers? reply : 

You can always sign up to be a Marshall. That way you can see first hand what exactly they are throwing and techniques their using.


fishing user avatarBrayberry reply : 

Years ago, I had a buddy win a Bass Invitational, he led wire to wire.  I read every article I could on the tournament, as I personally knew the guy, and had already spoken with him and knew all the details on the win.  Every magazine, including Bassmasters, said he won the tournament with 2 lures, a "unidentified bait" and specific Shad Rap.  Technically True,  but the unidentified bait they had a picture of and it was obivious to everyone is was a old Smithwick Rogue (not a sponsor), and the Shad Rap (Rapala was a sponsor).  The articles led you to believe the Shad Rap did most of the damage and the Rogue just caught one here or there, in reality it was the Rogue that caught all of his keepers, and the Shad Rap he only threw for 5 minutes on the last day just to catch something on it to say it caught fish.  After that I never trusted the magazines or pro's.  I jut watch what they are doing, not what they are saying


fishing user avatarfrogflogger reply : 

I'm interested in what type of lure not what specific brand.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

When Guido Hibdon wins a tourney on a home made plastic crawfish , I pay attention . Or Denny Brauer with a generic tube .  Most of the time I dont pay that much attention though . If the lure supposedly has a quality that I think will help me catch  fish I'll give it a try . Like the Red Eye Shad having action on the fall. 


fishing user avatarjbw252 reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 4:26 AM, Zeeter said:

How much credence do you put into the recommendations of pro anglers when it comes to gear?

Very little, if any at all.  They have sponsors for one main reason = $$$.  We all know that fish are finicky, so what Pros say works there may not work here where you fish. I know one thing for sure - fishing gear catches more fishermen than fish. The bait monkey has proven that many times.


fishing user avatarchattooga_ basser reply : 

I read all top patterns and lures articles that FLW and Bassmaster put out. I'm pretty set on the gear I like and fish with so I pay more attention to the style or philosophy that pro used. I.e. Jesse Wiggins fishing deep during springtime in FL, or Jon Cox fishing shallow in the Cup when everyone started out deep.

The stuff that goes against the grain or gets overlooked .


fishing user avatar"hamma" reply : 

  I may "learn" a new technique, or trick. But the specifics as far as the actual companies lure used, I take with a grain of salt. Meaning: I will learn a tip while, say dropshotting, but the actual bait hanging off that hook? Im not so inclined to run out and buy. I may employ that tip, but use a bait of "my" choice while doing so


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 1:05 PM, Brayberry said:

Years ago, I had a buddy win a Bass Invitational, he led wire to wire.  I read every article I could on the tournament, as I personally knew the guy, and had already spoken with him and knew all the details on the win.  Every magazine, including Bassmasters, said he won the tournament with 2 lures, a "unidentified bait" and specific Shad Rap.  Technically True,  but the unidentified bait they had a picture of and it was obivious to everyone is was a old Smithwick Rogue (not a sponsor), and the Shad Rap (Rapala was a sponsor).  The articles led you to believe the Shad Rap did most of the damage and the Rogue just caught one here or there, in reality it was the Rogue that caught all of his keepers, and the Shad Rap he only threw for 5 minutes on the last day just to catch something on it to say it caught fish.  After that I never trusted the magazines or pro's.  I jut watch what they are doing, not what they are saying

 

News Flash - The entire Media as a whole, works just like that.

A-Jay


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

Ok, so I don't sit around making a list of every item that the pros use so I can get it all at BPS. However, if I see a guy catching things on a creature bait and he's using a certain technique I may buy that particular bait just so that I can emulate his technique. Sometimes it's the exact same bait. Sometimes it isn't - just depends on the price and sometimes the brand. We all know there are some bargain brand baits out there that just don't hold up as well as the more costly but stronger ones.

 

Of course I listen to what the folks in here have to say, especially the people who live near me. But if I want to take it to the next level then I want to hear from the pros. As I noted above, there has been a dramatic improvement in the quality of information that the pros give out in their videos. In the early 2000s you were told to pitch into light cover and flip/punch into heavy cover. Well now they don't just tell you to do that - they show you how to set it up your rig and how to use the particular technique. And every guy is a little different.

 

Using my analogy up several posts ago, if I want to learn to do what Scott Martin is doing then I should get at least similar gear as he is using. And since the creature bait he's using is only $3 a pack I may as well get it. I never used a flipping hook and know nothing about them. He recommends a certain brand that he uses and is probably sponsored by. May as well get it since I don't know better. On the other hand, he recommends a particular brand of tungsten weight. Well, I don't see how the different flipping weights can be much different so I'll get the cheapest one made by a major manufacturer. And I never heard of the rod and reel he's using - I've always been a Shimano/G. Loomis guy. So I'm not going to get the Okuma rod unless I come in here and people say yeah - that's a better rod for flipping than the equivalent G. Loomis rod.

 

So to me the answer to the question is - look at what the pros are using and if they are doing something I want to do that is dependent on the gear then I need to get that gear. Otherwise, use my brain and the brains of the folks in here and get what will work best for me.

  On 2/10/2017 at 9:11 PM, Zeeter said:

And I never heard of the rod and reel he's using - I've always been a Shimano/G. Loomis guy. So I'm not going to get the Okuma rod unless I come in here and people say yeah - that's a better rod for flipping than the equivalent G. Loomis rod.

 

 

By the way, does anyone know anything abotu the Okuma rods? Is there a significant drop-off between that and G. Loomis or is he just pushing his sponsor?


fishing user avatar3dees reply : 

I never buy based on what a pro is using. if you do, you better have deep pockets. fishing shows today are commercials with a little fishing thrown in.


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 11:37 PM, 3dees said:

I never buy based on what a pro is using. if you do, you better have deep pockets. fishing shows today are commercials with a little fishing thrown in.

 

I wouldn't say never. If it makes sense to use it and I'm not familiar with another brand of whatever they are using then I'll get it. Obviously if it's a high ticket item I'll do some additional research.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

I wont buy a lure because a pro says its really good and everybody need a couple . I will buy one if it fills a niche . I just bought six crankbaits David Fritz was hawking because   supposedly they dive a couple of feet deeper than comparable sized baits .


fishing user avatarCaptMikeStarrett reply : 

I find this thread very interesting. My theory is, if looks like I could use it, I buy it and test it well, for the year. Then if it is not working for me or my customers then it becomes Fishing Flea Market fodder. Every now and then I find something in a lure or a reel that says quality and it works. Then I buy five more. Because I always have to have an even number.. OCD

 

Capt Mike


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

None.


fishing user avatarDeeare reply : 

When you are sponsored,  your job is to sell their products!!  Bottom line is that you need to increase their bottom line.   I think that sums it up.    


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 

I will admit that I've bought a few lures based on what a pro was using.  I don't usually go by what they promote on TV but read articles that discuss how they won tournaments.  After reading how KVD won a tourney mostly using a chartreuse, black back square bill crank bait I made sure I had one in my tackle box.  This was one time that it really paid off because I've caught a ton of fish on that one lure.

 

Other than that I usually will look to see what types of lures they are using and the techniques.  I don't really care about what brand it is because I'm not always willing to spend the money on their brand.  I'll find a similar style lure from another brand that's more affordable and use it. 


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 
  On 2/11/2017 at 10:34 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

I will admit that I've bought a few lures based on what a pro was using.  I don't usually go by what they promote on TV but read articles that discuss how they won tournaments.  After reading how KVD won a tourney mostly using a chartreuse, black back square bill crank bait I made sure I had one in my tackle box.  This was one time that it really paid off because I've caught a ton of fish on that one lure.

 

Other than that I usually will look to see what types of lures they are using and the techniques.  I don't really care about what brand it is because I'm not always willing to spend the money on their brand.  I'll find a similar style lure from another brand that's more affordable and use it. 

 

Kind of my thoughts on it, too. If what he's using to win tournaments is relatively inexpensive versus similar products I may get what the pro used. If he's using a high priced item and there's almost the same exact bait made by another company for half the price I'll probably go with the lesser priced item. To this day I think the BPS senko clones are just as good, if not better than the Senko brand.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Hmm...

 

We all buy so much "stuff', I can't imagine why you would not buy the winning lures from every Classic.

I suspect this would only be a small portion of your collection and who knows, those particular lures might

just be the ticket!

 

:love-093:


fishing user avatarBassAssassin726 reply : 

Honestly not much. They're just doing what they're paid for, promoting their sponsors gear. 


fishing user avatarTOXIC reply : 

Totally depends on the pro.  For example, KVD really throws the cranks he designed.  When it comes to something like a senko, it's not like every plastic manufacturer doesn't make a knockof.  The next question is that bait a senko or a sticko? 


fishing user avatarsully420 reply : 

90% of all fishing gear is good enough to get the job done. I would rather spend 20bucks to get 3 crank baits that cover 3 different colors or depths than spend 20 on one crank that makes sounds or whatever. I have bought GY Senkos for 6.99$ and caught fish then went and bought 2.99$ yum dingers and done just as well. I know some baits just work better than brands but you figure it out as you go.


fishing user avatarSneakyPete reply : 

I like getting info more local fisherman and not the pros


fishing user avatarTOXIC reply : 

Every bait made sponsors someone so somebody has to be telling the truth.  :huh:


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

Kind of like I mentioned before. These guys make a living fishing. They're out there every day. They could take just about any lure and make it work for them, so it doesn't matter who supplies them as a sponsor. I could never fish with a Quantum reel, but KVD can. If I was out on a boat every day like he is I could make it work for me.


fishing user avatarChance_Taker4 reply : 

I know right after KVD won his last classic in Louisiana you couldn't find a SK KVD 1.5 in stock anywhere for months so I think it depends on the pro.


fishing user avatargeo g reply : 

I like MLF because you can see what their throwing, and how their working the bait.  The B/S stops there!:stop:


fishing user avatarlmbfisherman reply : 

When I watch a pro, I try to listen to how he fishes a certain technique, I tune them out when they talk about their sponsors.  I definitely learn a lot more from everyone here though.


fishing user avatarHawkeye21 reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 8:20 AM, Zeeter said:

Kind of like I mentioned before. These guys make a living fishing. They're out there every day. They could take just about any lure and make it work for them, so it doesn't matter who supplies them as a sponsor. I could never fish with a Quantum reel, but KVD can. If I was out on a boat every day like he is I could make it work for me.

 

Those KVD Quantum reels are actually a great bang for your buck.  I bought one of his combos for my fist baitcaster and it's still one of my favorites.  It actually has more features on it than my $100 reels and it even manages to catch fish just as well too.

  On 3/21/2017 at 12:02 PM, Ohio Bassin said:

I know right after KVD won his last classic in Louisiana you couldn't find a SK KVD 1.5 in stock anywhere for months so I think it depends on the pro.

 

I remember reading about how he won with the Chartreuse Black Back 1.5 so I bought one right away.  It's still one of my favorite lures.  Those 1.5 squarebills just flat out work. 


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

Sometimes I'll buy what they're throwing if it doesn't make much difference. Unless I know another brand, or if the price of what they're selling is outrageous then who cares? Especially if I like what he's saying and his video helped me a great deal. In those cases he made me a better fisherman so I don't mind patronizing his sponsors.

 

If it's a high ticket item then it's completely different. I had two Live Target swimbaits in my shopping cart last week based on a video of some guy glowing over them. When I asked around in the forum I deleted them.


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 9:40 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

 

Those KVD Quantum reels are actually a great bang for your buck.  I bought one of his combos for my fist baitcaster and it's still one of my favorites.  It actually has more features on it than my $100 reels and it even manages to catch fish just as well too.

 

I remember reading about how he won with the Chartreuse Black Back 1.5 so I bought one right away.  It's still one of my favorite lures.  Those 1.5 squarebills just flat out work. 

 

I was just trying to make a point. I've never actually used a quantum as I am a shimano guy. If a guy is out there 270 days a year he's going to start feeling bites that some of us amateurs wouldn't feel. I guess using a reel was a poor analogy on my part. Maybe go with fishing line, instead. 

 

When Ike won the classic a decade ago he used Manns Stone Jigs. I immediately got some of them and they are my go-to jigs. So again - low ticket item and I don't mind using their gear. High ticket item I'll ask around.


fishing user avatarChance_Taker4 reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 9:40 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

I remember reading about how he won with the Chartreuse Black Back 1.5 so I bought one right away.  It's still one of my favorite lures.  Those 1.5 squarebills just flat out work. 

I agree I lines my whole tackle box with those 1.5 squarebills after that classic mostly because I never fished them before and on my first cast throwing the Sexy Shad I caught my PB and now I have a squarebill tied on every outing


fishing user avatarRichF reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 5:20 AM, Zeeter said:

Another thing - back in the days before youtube became so prevalent we had to learn everything from magazines and watching fellow anglers. I never bothered reading too much into what they say. Once there was an article on "kicker fish". Once you reach your string limit you go after that kicker fish. Of course it was all nonsense. Who doesn't keep trying to catch that bigger fish after the limit is reached? yet these guys went on for two pages about how important the kicker fish is. It was ridiculous and I felt stupider for reading it. The pros back then weren't giving away any real information like - what do you do to get that kicker fish?

 

This isn't nonsense at all.  Most guys that fish 3 to 4 day tournaments will "fish for a limit" first thing, every day of competition.  That means they're going to fish MLF style (shakey head, wacky rigged senko, etc) just so they can put 5 keepers in the box quickly.  It's no easy task to limit every day in a tour level event.  Most of the touring pros are just fishing for a check so they can continue with the season and often times, just limiting every day will guarantee they cash.  Once they get their 5, then they have more freedom to fish for a kicker/bigger bite.  This usually means they will throw bigger baits which will drastically lower their catch ratio.  

 

  On 3/19/2017 at 2:51 AM, sully420 said:

90% of all fishing gear is good enough to get the job done.

 

This right here is gold.  It doesn't really bother me if a pro pushes a sponsored product even though they might not use it a lot, because I know that you can catch bass on just about everything out there.  I use the "pros' recommendations" as a way to see what kind of stuff is out there on the market.  If they're showing off something that looks neat to me (and not obnoxiously priced), I'll give it a try. Whether or not that specific product was used to win a tournament has no bearing on my decision to acquire. 


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 11:01 PM, RichF said:

 

This isn't nonsense at all.  Most guys that fish 3 to 4 day tournaments will "fish for a limit" first thing, every day of competition.  That means they're going to fish MLF style (shakey head, wacky rigged senko, etc) just so they can put 5 keepers in the box quickly.  It's no easy task to limit every day in a tour level event.  Most of the touring pros are just fishing for a check so they can continue with the season and often times, just limiting every day will guarantee they cash.  Once they get their 5, then they have more freedom to fish for a kicker/bigger bite.  This usually means they will throw bigger baits which will drastically lower their catch ratio.  

 

If you read the article you would have been put off by it. Certainly they go for the limit first. But the article goes on to ask several pros about kicker fish. Basically, the answer was "yes, I go for kicker fish after I get my limit." No insight on what changes they make. Anyone reading the article would have said the same thing: Why write a three page article where pros express that after their limit they go for bigger fish? Was there some notion out there that after fishing for the limit they simply stop and go home?


fishing user avatarRichF reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 11:19 PM, Zeeter said:

Was there some notion out there that after fishing for the limit they simply stop and go home?

 

Probably not this but I'm sure there was the assumption that switching to bigger baits will often produce a kicker bite.  While they may not have explicitly explained that, the notion could probably have been inferred.  I'm not saying there isn't a lot of dud information out there, but my assumption about this article is that it wasn't necessarily meant to be a "how to catch a kicker" article but more of a "this is how I approach a tournament day" piece.    


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 
  On 3/21/2017 at 11:42 PM, RichF said:

 

Probably not this but I'm sure there was the assumption that switching to bigger baits will often produce a kicker bite.  While they may not have explicitly explained that, the notion could probably have been inferred.  I'm not saying there isn't a lot of dud information out there, but my assumption about this article is that it wasn't necessarily meant to be a "how to catch a kicker" article but more of a "this is how I approach a tournament day" piece.    

 

Quite likely. It's just that it took three pages for everyone to essentially say the same thing. Gotta get that kicker fish to get ahead of the pack. Well duh! And of course I was being sarcastic in that section that you quoted me on.


fishing user avatarjimf reply : 

I actually think most if not all of us, whether we like to admit it or not, are influenced by marketing to some degree.  And a pro discussing the baits and gear used is just that - marketing.    I think we are all pretty aware what they are doing, but subconsciously when you hear KVD (or fill in your favorite pro) talking about their gear, clothing, sunglasses, truck etc....  you are probably being influenced even if it is only at a subconscious level.   

 

 


fishing user avatarZeeter reply : 

Personally, I won't buy anything that doesn't say "Ike Approved" on it  :lol:


fishing user avatarchattooga_ basser reply : 

Well okay I'll admit to having a bunch of biffle bugs and hard heads stocked up. However I usually do best with the biffle bug as a jig trailer and a craw or trick worm on the hard head.


fishing user avatarjakebrake reply : 
  On 3/22/2017 at 2:54 AM, Zeeter said:

Personally, I won't buy anything that doesn't say "Ike Approved" on it  :lol:

So, you're an Eisenhower fan?


fishing user avatarMike L reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 12:12 PM, Gotfishyfingers? said:

You can always sign up to be a Marshall. That way you can see first hand what exactly they are throwing and techniques their using.

 

That's what I did at the first Elite of the year on Okeechobee.  

I was more interested in how, where and why he was useing what he was useing. 

The decision making process he used was more important to me than the specific bait or equipment used. 

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

 


fishing user avataroakeybassin reply : 
  On 2/11/2017 at 10:41 PM, Zeeter said:

To this day I think the BPS senko clones are just as good, if not better than the Senko brand.

My uncle always fished top of the line gear.  He would spend big bucks to have brand names.  While I do agree that reputable brands my be of higher quality, I think that some of the big dollar items are just hype.  We fished multiple times with a guide on the Delaware River and my uncle needed to fish Senkos.  The guide was sponsored by Yum, so he recommended the Dinger.  I watched my uncle go through six packs of senkos to our two packs of dingers.  Dingers, which are about half the price of senkos held up much better to the abuse from the smallies that were hammering our lines all day.  Ever since, I always fish a dinger instead of a senko because I saw that it actually did work and this was a perfect example of a guide standing behind his sponsored product because it was great.  Other than that, I'll try to just pay attention to technique and style.


fishing user avatarchadmack282 reply : 
  On 2/10/2017 at 1:05 PM, Brayberry said:

Years ago, I had a buddy win a Bass Invitational, he led wire to wire.  I read every article I could on the tournament, as I personally knew the guy, and had already spoken with him and knew all the details on the win.  Every magazine, including Bassmasters, said he won the tournament with 2 lures, a "unidentified bait" and specific Shad Rap.  Technically True,  but the unidentified bait they had a picture of and it was obivious to everyone is was a old Smithwick Rogue (not a sponsor), and the Shad Rap (Rapala was a sponsor).  The articles led you to believe the Shad Rap did most of the damage and the Rogue just caught one here or there, in reality it was the Rogue that caught all of his keepers, and the Shad Rap he only threw for 5 minutes on the last day just to catch something on it to say it caught fish.  After that I never trusted the magazines or pro's.  I jut watch what they are doing, not what they are saying

Gotta pay those Bills!!!




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