Marker Buoys / GPS / Spotlock 2024

fishraptor reply :

This fishing season has just ended and I am already chomping at the bit for 2019. I'm fairly new to the game, a few light years of freshwater fishing....so wish to get some help/suggestions from the veteran fisherman.

Anyhow, just replaced my Minkota Fortrex trolling motor with the new Ultrex that has the spotlock feature.

I do not have any marker buoys and not sure if I even need any since I have GPS and Spotlock.

Would their be any application or reason that I would need to have a marker buoy or two.

If so, any recomendations on brands or styles ? or would a homemade one be to any advantage as i have a TON of lead pyramid sinkers, bank and flat sinkers of nice size.

They are cheap enough to buy but if one could make a superior design marker they that would be the way I would go.

I just don't understand how they do not let out line in semi rough water till it reaches the end of the line which by they might

place buoy well off target.

Thanks,

BassWhole! reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 3:13 AM, fishraptor said:

I just don't understand how they do not let out line in semi rough water till it reaches the end of the line which by they might

place buoy well off target.

You wrap a rubber band around it at the desired depth (a couple of feet over actually).

WRB reply :

Ozark Trail marker buoys on Amazon, set of 2 for $14.

I have a set for 45 years now and still use them on occasion. Your GPS has instant way point markers for lake maps, but not visible without looking at the screen. Physical buoys are easy to keep track of at times, still a good idea to way point the spots to get back to them in the future.

The H shaped markers come with 50' of cord and a lead weight, just straighten out the weight and toss the marker over where you want it, it plays out the line and stops when the weight hit bottom.

I keep a buoy in a cup holder next to my feet when driving my boat at idling speed when marking a spot and toss it over the back of my stern, driver side, about 20'. Everything on your sonar screen is behind you so the marker lands close and to one side of the target out of the way of your fishing the spot.

Tom

Logan S reply :

Marker buoys used to be required equipment for me, obviously before GPS was universal, but I haven't used one in probably 10 years...Although I still have 1 in boat, probably just for nostalgia .

I don't have spot lock, but with GPS at bow and console and accurate mapping I just don't need them. I would say not to bother with them...Instead of learning a defunct methodology, just put that time toward getting familiar with using your trolling motor, GPS, and mapping.

Catt reply :

I keep 2 in the boat, one on the front deck & one on the console.

I don't drop a waypoint on everything I see ????

Scott F reply :

I use spot lock to hold the boat in position and marker buoys to mark the edge of the structure and give me a reference point for where to cast.

MickD reply :

Marker buoys are in no way obsolete as they are instant to deploy, they accurately mark the spot, and are a piece of cake to navigate back to. You instantly and accurately know exactly how far you are from it, unlike GPS. I also will place a way point, but use it only for finding the buoy in case I've drifted off it quite a ways (as on Lake St Clair, Sag Bay, other big waters when I am out in the middle of nowhere) or navigating back to it some other time. Spot lock works very well in holding the boat where you set it.

I find the bright orange the easiest to see, all other colors don't work nearly as well. The H shaped ones, due to their shape, stop playing out line when the sinker hits bottom. I think the round ones are unbalanced to accomplish the same thing.

Catt reply :

Buoys are essential when fishing grass flat!

After I catch one I'll throw a buoy & fish the area 360° in a widening circle. Bass will bunch up on grass flats but the sweet spot might as big as your living room.

If I catch 3-4 I might drop a waypoint ????

Tennessee Boy reply :

25 years ago I might drop a buoy 30 times on a single trip. I have a couple of buoys in the boat now but I can't remember the last time I used one. I have an Ultrex with 360 imaging. Spotlock is one of the most useful features that has come around in years. I can sit on a spot, jog 5 feet in any direction, follow a depth contour, circle a spot, and see what I'm fishing with 360 imaging. It's so easy now to fish off shore structure that it's taken some of the fun out of it.

Big Rick reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 9:51 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

It's so easy now to fish off shore structure that it's taken some of the fun out of it.

Then, by all means, downgrade your equipment! Post it in the flea market and I'm sure we can increase your "fun" of fishing offshore structure BLIND....

fishraptor reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 9:51 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

25 years ago I might drop a buoy 30 times on a single trip. I have a couple of buoys in the boat now but I can't remember the last time I used one. I have an Ultrex with 360 imaging. Spotlock is one of the most useful features that has come around in years. I can sit on a spot, jog 5 feet in any direction, follow a depth contour, circle a spot, and see what I'm fishing with 360 imaging. It's so easy now to fish off shore structure that it's taken some of the fun out of it.

Thanks for the post ...... I have a Helix 10 Mega w/Side imaging. How does the 360 work/compare ? Are their any advantages to my set up ?

WRB reply :

Sonar is only as good as the person interpreting the return signals.

Tom

Catt reply :

It's so easy we'll all be competing in the Classic next year ????

WRB reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 2:00 PM, Catt said:

It's so easy we'll all be competing in the Classic next year ????

With nearly everyone leaving B.A.S.S. we just might be able to qualify

Tom

MickD reply :

When one has an empty horizon on one side and a shore 5 smiles away on the other, I think anyone will find markers easier to "interpret" than a fish finder screen. When I'm fishing smaller water I don't use them much. Agreed, spot lock is wonderful.

scaleface reply :

Spotlock would be nice . After retying a lure , getting a backlash out , unhooking a deeply hooked fish ... I sometimes drift far away from the buoy .

lo n slo reply :

i still use the orange marker buoys

NHBull reply :

I still use them a lot, but one of my pet pieves is tournament fishermen pre-fishing and dropping them and leaving them all over the lake for hours

That said, I have found structure that I wasn't aware of......but still!

scaleface reply :

I still use The yellow Manns buoys that has a fish shaped weight .

WRB reply :

The marker buoy is my spot lock!

Tom

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 11:18 AM, fishraptor said:

Thanks for the post ...... I have a Helix 10 Mega w/Side imaging. How does the 360 work/compare ? Are their any advantages to my set up ?

Humminbird 360 imaging is like side imaging except the image is generated by a turning transducer instead of the moving boat. The concept is fantastic. The actual implementation leaves a lot to be desired. The quality of the images is MUCH lower than with side imaging. It also doesn't work very well in water over 20 ft. I still find it very useful. It helps me find cover in shallow water that I otherwise would not know was there. It is very helpful in showing the location of off shore structure in relation to the boat as you are fishing. It also shows you any irregularities in the structure that might not be on the map.

It's always reassuring to know that the ledge you are fishing really is there. ????

ohboyitsrobby reply :

I love my marker buoys. I don't have spot lock but even the people I know that do still use market buoys. My favorite time to deploy them is with a couple glow sticks taped on over a brush pile at night.

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 11/25/2018 at 2:00 PM, Catt said:

It's so easy we'll all be competing in the Classic next year ????

Easy fishing doesn't always lead to easy catching ????.

Catt reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 1:22 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

Easy fishing doesn't always lead to easy catching ????.

Foundation: a basis upon which something stands or is supported.

Basis: the underlying support or foundation for an idea, argument, or process.

With today's technology many anglers have no basis to stand on!

WRB reply :

The sonar forum on this site has changed a lot since knowledgeable members that kept up with technology have moved on. I haven't kept up with technology, my units are good enough for me. I do fish with a few folks that have state of the art sonar units, we know the lakes so the need to do a lot of sonar searching isn't necessary.

The ability to determine what your sonar is telling you is far more important then constantly changing sonar units.

We had scanning sonar back in the 80's on our off shore Marlin/tuna tournament boat. Wonderful aid to locating the depth of bait and fish in the open ocean after locating a area by looking for surface activity, fins, splashes, birds, temperature breaks etc, etc.

Sonar can help save time it locates fish or structure, what type of fish is up to you to determine and catch.

If we're to purchase anything today it would be a TM with Spot Lock, that is a good investment!

Tom

MickD reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 1:00 AM, WRB said:

The marker buoy is my spot lock!

The problem with this is this is that a marker buoy cannot keep your boat near it, but spot lock can. Even if you're setting up a new rig, digging out a backlash, answering nature's call, having a sandwich, applying sunscreen, adding or removing layers of clothing, etc etc etc. It allows one to hang the boat from the wind and fish a spot without constantly working with the motor, and a marker buoy cannot do that either. They really are not equivalent.

Catt reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 4:23 AM, MickD said:

The problem with this is this is that a marker buoy cannot keep your boat near it, but spot lock can. Even if you're setting up a new rig, digging out a backlash, answering nature's call, having a sandwich, applying sunscreen, adding or removing layers of clothing, etc etc etc. It allows one to hang the boat from the wind and fish a spot without constantly working with the motor, and a marker buoy cannot do that either. They really are not equivalent.

Buoy markers & anchors still work today!

Not everyone has a grand to throw down on a trolling motor.

ww2farmer reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 5:46 AM, Catt said:

Buoy markers & anchors still work today!

Not everyone has a grand to throw down on a trolling motor.

Amen!!!

Even if I did...don't know if I would want to. Been in plenty of boats with all trimmings. I still feel more comfortable in an old tin boat just "fishing". I do OK.

WRB reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 4:23 AM, MickD said:

The problem with this is this is that a marker buoy cannot keep your boat near it, but spot lock can. Even if you're setting up a new rig, digging out a backlash, answering nature's call, having a sandwich, applying sunscreen, adding or removing layers of clothing, etc etc etc. It allows one to hang the boat from the wind and fish a spot without constantly working with the motor, and a marker buoy cannot do that either. They really are not equivalent.

Wasn't met to be equivalent, it was made tongue in cheek. If the marker is on the bottom, it will mark the spot and all the angler needs to do is keep an eye on it to return where it is or a GPS way point to get back to marker.

My last post, the last sentence says if I was going to purchase anything it would be a TM with Spot Lock and said that when they 1st came out a few years ago.

Tom

Logan S reply :

But if someone DOES have all the trimmings, marker buoys are just redundant....And the OP has got the trimmings .

If you've got decent electronics and mapping and are competent using them while fishing and running the trolling motor you just don't need to bother with buoys anymore. The visual reference you need is on the screen instead of the in the water. I say this as someone that was a die-hard buoy user back in the day.

Before GPS and accurate mapping was universally available/affordable for bass boats, marker buoys were the only option to put a visual reference on something. We also used the triangulation method to accomplish the same thing. I stopped doing both when I realized I was more accurate with my electronics than I was with the visual references...The bonus is that you save a ton of time - Can go directly to your waypoint/spot and start fishing immediately.

Doesn't mean buoys are useless, but modern electronics make them unnecessary for many.

Tennessee Boy reply :

It’s a challenge to translate what you see on the screen into your position on the water as it relates to what you are trying to fish. A couple of buoys make it easier. One great tool that we have not mentioned here is a heading sensor. Having the map orient itseft to the direction the boat is pointing when it’s not moving is very helpful. I don’t think I could have given up using buoys without a heading sensor.

A-Jay reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 8:48 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

It’s a challenge to translate what you see on the screen into your position on the water as it relates to what you are trying to fish. A couple of buoys make it easier. One great tool that we have not mentioned here is a heading sensor. Having the map orient itself to the direction the boat is pointing when it’s not moving is very helpful. I don’t think I could have given up using buoys without a heading sensor.

Yup ~

Especially at night.

A-Jay

WRB reply :

The op asked the question does he need marker buoys? He has all the new tools including state of the art TM with spot lock, technically he doesn't.

My question does the op know how to use the state of the art technology?, he said he is new to bass fishing.

Hypothetical; Where is that coffee table size rock pile I metered, it was clearly displayed on my sonar screen, punched in the way point, spot locked on the way point and can't feel the rock pile and no fish where they should be at, where is that rock pile?

Answer, read my 1st post.

Tom

Catt reply :

Everytime I've turned around & looked that little black line aint there ????

For me the most important feature of any depth finder is the grey line!

scaleface reply :

In marking a ledge or channel buoys work well . Having them fifty yards or so apart one can go back and forth at his leisure . Only down fall is other boats stopping to fish your buoy's .

NHBull reply :

On 11/26/2018 at 7:36 PM, scaleface said:

In marking a ledge or channel buoys work well . Having them fifty yards or so apart one can go back and forth at his leisure . Only down fall is other boats stopping to fish your buoy's .

That would be me...Put a lot of fish in my boat that way........Especially if it is a spot I planned on fishing

Tizi reply :

I fish from a kayak 75% of the time. Marker buoys are an invaluable tool for me. I like deep cranking and the buoys help me stay on a spot. In a kayak, drifting is a constant battle. I have an anchor trolley that is a must and gets used often. Buoys and an anchor.

Once I get my pedal kayak up and running, this might be easier.

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