Are lizards an effective way to fish the bottom and what brands should i be looking out for to purchase?
Yes....I have caught 20+ bass this month on a zoom 6'' junebug lizard t-rigged this month!
Jeff
Yes i use zoom and rage lizards with 3/16 weight most of the time sometimes i fish them weightless . I caught twenty pounds on a lizards two weeks ago
Lizards are good to fish all year! I fish the Zoom lizards.
Try the Rage Lizard, you won't be buying any more Zoom.
This bait might be the best offering in the entire Rage
Tail line-up.
My preferred rigging is a traditional C-rig.
For sure, I fish them both T rig and C rig. I've used zoom, berkley power bait and rage all with success.
I am the avid lizard fisher. They are my favorite bait to fish. I am the most productive when it comes to fishing with these things. I T rig them with a 1/8 oz bullet weight on my 20# Yozuri set up, and also a 1/32 oz bullet weight for my 12# light style fishing. Both ways makes for a different action. Either way, you can fish the bottom, middle, or top of the water with these things. I personally use the Zoom products. Down here in the Everglades, my most productive color near the surface is a watermelon seed with either chartreuse or red flake. Going deep, or on an overcast day, I may switch to a junebug, or candy color. I have tried the Rage brand, but for the extra money, I dont catch anymore fish. Zoom products are the brand I mostly use for $ and performance. Also try the ultra-vibe speed worms, they are a producer too. Good luck!
On 4/18/2012 at 3:43 AM, LgMouthGambler said:I am the avid lizard fisher. They are my favorite bait to fish. I am the most productive when it comes to fishing with these things. I T rig them with a 1/8 oz bullet weight on my 20# Yozuri set up, and also a 1/32 oz bullet weight for my 12# light style fishing. Both ways makes for a different action. Either way, you can fish the bottom, middle, or top of the water with these things. I personally use the Zoom products. Down here in the Everglades, my most productive color near the surface is a watermelon seed with either chartreuse or red flake. Going deep, or on an overcast day, I may switch to a junebug, or candy color. I have tried the Rage brand, but for the extra money, I dont catch anymore fish. Zoom products are the brand I mostly use for $ and performance. Also try the ultra-vibe speed worms, they are a producer too. Good luck!
What???????? You cant be serious..Zoom lizards catch as many or more than RAGE?? No way..
Just kidding of course. My zoom lizards catch them just fine.
i fish zoom 6" and 4" lizards all year down here. i usually throw them with as light of a weight as i can get away with but ill throw them on a shaky head also. ive also caught bass burning them across the surface while they were active and feeding.
if rage would come out with a 4" lizard , i would probably be all over it. i just dont fish the 6" enough for me to pick up a pack.
i like the big bites kriet tale
On 4/18/2012 at 2:27 AM, roadwarrior said:Try the Rage Lizard, you won't be buying any more Zoom.
This bait might be the best offering in the entire Rage
Tail line-up.
My preferred rigging is a traditional C-rig.
Wow, surprised much? Rage makes a good lizard, but you can't argue with the Zoom Lizard's history of success or price. For my money, Zoom is the preferred bait.
Zoom's 6" Green Pumpkin is a staple of mine. I haven't tried the rage lizard yet but plan to. I also use the 5" and 4" zoom lizards too when more finesse is needed, but the 6" is small enough to catch all the 1 - 2 pounders you want, though I would say most fish I catch on 6" lizards are 2 pounds or better.
If you want to try something a little different then a lizard try an eastern newt (Bed Bandit). I'm not going off the deep and saying you will never buy another zoom lizard but they are prety productive.
Yesterday I used the pack of lake fork hyper lizards I have out of desperation. I coudlnt catch anything up until then. I caught 2 bass over 2lbs, the last being 3,3 in about 6 casts.
They are big so I was expecting a huge fish but you can catch nice sized fish with it. Garlic scent is strong but the tails are weak on them....they had my buddy intrigued as he wasnt catching anything either where we were
On 4/18/2012 at 9:19 PM, Skeet22 said:If you want to try something a little different then a lizard try an eastern newt (Bed Bandit). I'm not going off the deep and saying you will never buy another zoom lizard but they are prety productive.
I will be fishing a variety of Bite It! baits at Guntersville. More importantly, I am providing samples to
everyone willing to give them a try. I hope to see a ton of reviews on these baits in the coming weeks.
We appreciate your sponsorship!
-Kent
I've had good luck with Wave lizards. Little or no weights
Thanks Roadwarrior, I wish I could be there. As for fishing lizards I fish them anywhere I would fish any creature type bait. Most people associate fishing with these types of baits during the spawn, but they are excellent pre and post spawn baits.
It is hard to beat a C-rig lizard over grass flats, or a T-rig lizard under docks or any kind of cover.
The Zoom lizard has always worked really well for me under a lot of different conditions where, what you think should produce, in fact does not.
That is not to say that any other brand is better at producing bites, it's just that all I have ever used are Zoom lizards, however the lizard in general is a great tool to have.
On 4/18/2012 at 9:34 PM, roadwarrior said:I will be fishing a variety of Bite It! baits at Guntersville. More importantly, I am providing samples to
everyone willing to give them a try. I hope to see a ton of reviews on these baits in the coming weeks.
We appreciate your sponsorship!
-Kent
Another vote for Zoom.
I can only speak to the effectiveness of Zoom lizards. I have used them for years, and they have put many fish in my boat. My wife's go-to bait is a T-rigged junebug lizard. A C-rigged lizard on deep-water structure is one of my favorites. I have also caught fish dropshotting them rigged weedless on an EWG hook using baitcast gear.
Try the Rage Tail and you guys will be surprised. Good is fine, but better is better!
I personally like to rig Z-Man lizards on a Shaky head. I have yet to find any local tackle shops that carry Rage products.
On 4/19/2012 at 8:43 AM, roadwarrior said:Try the Rage Tail and you guys will be surprised. Good is fine, but better is better!
How can you say that one is better than the other when you obviously only fish one brand, or at least claim you do? I understand that you're trying to promote your sponsors, but when you bring it up in every post, it lessens the effectiveness of your promotion.
I just think it's funny that you always say Rage is the best, but is that comparison after you've fished Zoom products right next to them? I've tried the Rage Craws and caught some fish, but also used a jig with Paca trailer at the same time and also caught fish. Tried the Rage shad and caught a few fish, but put on a shallow crank and caught more. For the availability, color selection and price, I think that Zoom has a lot of great options.
I used the zooms today and the fish were killing them. 2 packs of 6inch zooms cost less than 1 pack of ragetails ..so its a no brainer for me
Zoom has a better color selection and their lizard is a bit more subtle than the rager. Why not carry both?
I've had good success with them. Last time out I wanted to try something different than my usual Texas rig, so I tried nose-hooked weightless, and had good success. I wanted the bait to suspend as much as possible above a very mossy bottom...
I wacky rigged one that was torn to bits on my wacky hook 2/0....killed them
That 4 way amputee needs some legs to give it some action! hahaOn 4/18/2012 at 9:19 PM, Skeet22 said:If you want to try something a little different then a lizard try an eastern newt (Bed Bandit). I'm not going off the deep and saying you will never buy another zoom lizard but they are prety productive.
On 4/19/2012 at 10:51 AM, bassh8er said:How can you say that one is better than the other when you obviously only fish one brand, or at least claim you do? I understand that you're trying to promote your sponsors, but when you bring it up in every post, it lessens the effectiveness of your promotion.
I just think it's funny that you always say Rage is the best, but is that comparison after you've fished Zoom products right next to them? I've tried the Rage Craws and caught some fish, but also used a jig with Paca trailer at the same time and also caught fish. Tried the Rage shad and caught a few fish, but put on a shallow crank and caught more. For the availability, color selection and price, I think that Zoom has a lot of great options.
I for one can attest to what RW is saying, Strike King has some amazing products that work tremendously well in the right circumstances, the Rage Tail product has helped me to place in my last tournament by catching more quaility fish rather than quantity.
I have also used other products in the past and was reluctant to try anything else, that was until I too got a "little" frustrated with all the hype about Rage Tail, He issued a "challenge" so to speak, while the challenge was simply to try the product, I took it to heart, having never used any of the Rage Tail products in the past and knowing that my friends have never had any luck with them, I decided to try anyway.
That day yeilded my PB bag of 5, 32 lbs 09 oz, I still did not win but I now have more confidence in my deep structure fishing and my shallow cover fishing, do I still use the other brands? yes, but Strike King and Rage Tail are just another tool I have in my arsenal, thanks to him.
He is just saying in short to give these products a try, to help us become better at our trade, like I stated, under the right conditions, I agree, I think these baits are hard to beat.
On 4/23/2012 at 6:20 PM, LgMouthGambler said:That 4 way amputee needs some legs to give it some action! haha
How much action does a senko have? Sometimes more action is less attractive to a Bass.
i personally fish the zoom and the rage tail lizards and have had virtually equal success on both. im a big fan of rage tails, and i dont particularly care for zoom worms, but the zoom lizards are excellent and i cant find any substantial difference between rage lizards and zoom lizards as far as fish catching is concerned. both zoom and rage tail make excellent lizards with the main exception being price...
On 4/23/2012 at 6:20 PM, LgMouthGambler said:That 4 way amputee needs some legs to give it some action! haha
Don't think it was designed to have action. I have caught some pigs on this bait that did not seem to mind the amputated legs!
so why don't you make VIDEOS? I like videosOn 4/18/2012 at 2:03 AM, 00 mod said:Yes....I have caught 20+ bass this month on a zoom 6'' junebug lizard t-rigged this month!
Jeff
The Bed Bandit was designed around a certain appearance and tail design. The fins are actually sloped upwards 10 degrees from the horizontal to provide lift. The author of this thread is asking about fishing with lizards more than which brand is better. I think he got the answer to his question.
To answer the first part of your question, a 6" Lizard is hard to beat when a 6" profile is what the fish are asking for. They can be fished in basically all water types and depths with good success. The rigging styles are extremely diverse as well to meet the challenges that water types give us. Lizards will often catch more fish than a worm of the same length and profile... and more often than not. The main thing to consider is overall profile, length and width or body thickness. For a fact, there are many good 6" lizards on the market. I may have been one the first Lizard chunkers in the state of Texas... I'm OLD
And to answer the second part of your question, there are many good products on the market that will work in most conditions and some are more readily available than others. Also price is a consideration with everything and the price varies considerably as well.
IMO, Is there a 6" lizard in the world that has better designed action than the Rage Lizard... No. Will the Rage Lizard catch as many fish as other 6" lizards in same colors and in the same conditions, YES. Will it sometime catch more, Yes. Is it more versatile for other uses such as a slow moving high action swimmer or weightless finesse top water, Yes. Does it have more action and a higher flicker rate at slower retrieve speeds than any other 6" lizard in the world, Yes. Have I tested it in all of these conditions and along with many of the most popular 6" Lizards, Yes. Does it cost more than many other 6" Lizards, Yes. Is it worth it... To many it is! All my opinion of course
BTW, I used a Zoom Lizard when it was first introduced and it's a good product...
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Big-O I like your style. Zoom is a big favorite of mine, and I am one that is not quick to change something that is working. Cost is always a factor, but I am willing to pay for results (within reason). I don't fish for a check, but I will give your lizards a try. I will not order them for a while; I have broken the tackle budget for the year according to my wife. At least for the spring anyway...
The only Rage product I have tried is the 10" Anaconda. When a big worm is called for they now are my first choice. I may even try your jig trailers, but I have this thing about NetBait craws and chunks...