I didn't really believe in this theory until recently. I fish a small local, public pond in Blacksburg, VA. I didn't even believe there were Bass in there until I grabbed a Senko and gave it a go. (I primarily fished for catfish here). Well that day i ended up catching about 15 Bass in just under 2 hrs. I was using a 4" Senko on a 2/0 EWG offset hook. Since this was working i kept using it for a while and kept pulling out 1.5 - 2lbers. A friend of mine sent me some 8" Zoom Lizards and I decided to throw one (junebug) on a 4/0 EWG and fish it weightless. Well low and behold I ended up hitting a few bigger ones. This pattern has continued and I have pulled out a couple 3 and 4lbers. I now believe in this theory and always keep one of my rods tied with a "Bigger" Bait.
Cheers,
JW
Nice catch! That wouldn't be Pandapas Pond would it? Always have thought about giving that a go when I only had a few hours to spare
Nice fish. I only fish by that rule bigger equals bigger better fish. When it come to worms I use 6" senkos and 10" Mightee worms big fish love the Mightee worms
So if bigger baits catch bigger bass we should be throwing 6 foot worms right?
One of the best big bass lures is a jig & craw which has an overall lenght of maybe 4".
On 8/14/2013 at 5:06 AM, Catt said:So if bigger baits catch bigger bass we should be throwing 6 foot worms right?
One of the best big bass lures is a jig & craw which has an overall lenght of maybe 4".
Yea Catt 6 foot worms will work
I'm having some great luck right now on a NorthStar Original Swim Jig (New Gill)/ Rage Tail Menace or Shellcracker.
all depend I caught a few fish over 6 last year I baby brush hogs.. and beetle spins
On 8/14/2013 at 5:06 AM, Catt said:So if bigger baits catch bigger bass we should be throwing 6 foot worms right?
One of the best big bass lures is a jig & craw which has an overall lenght of maybe 4".
IF you can get my some 6 footers im in need.. I ran out of my 5's looking for something a little bigger
On 8/14/2013 at 5:06 AM, Catt said:So if bigger baits catch bigger bass we should be throwing 6 foot worms right?
One of the best big bass lures is a jig & craw which has an overall lenght of maybe 4".
Exactly.. I absolutely love jigs, and theres no doubt they catch big fish.
Iv seen monsters caught on DS rigs too. Those things arent big at all.
On 8/14/2013 at 5:06 AM, Catt said:So if bigger baits catch bigger bass we should be throwing 6 foot worms right?
One of the best big bass lures is a jig & craw which has an overall lenght of maybe 4".
I think that the jig, while it isn't long, actually has a very large profile underwater, especially when the skirt flares up. Either way I agree the Jig catches big bass, after all thats what I caught my pb on!
Brian
J33wolf, no disrespect meant but the "bigger the bait the bigger the bass" sounds good in thoery but it is simply that...a thoery.
Given the choice of a 4" shad 10 feet away and a 8" shad 20 yards away the bass will choose the closest
Why?
The biological fact; minimum output maximum intake!
I been saying that for years now big baits means big bass. I do notice the larger fish won't hit the same lures that the smaller fish are hitting. When your on a smaller fish bite when it slows down switch to a larger lure same color.
Example, I'm throwing a mepps Anglia inline #3 silver blade with a gray tail. The bass bite is on. As it slows down to a hault I put on a mepps Anglia #4 or mepps #5 silver blade w/Gray tail and the bigger fish will hit it.
In low light conditions as day turns to dust at this time switch to a brighter color lure of the same type. You will land a few more fish.
I switch from a joesfly in blackgnat in evening as it gets darker to a joesfly in firetiger apache. And fish till dark catching fish.
I'm also thinking this will work in reverse from early morning while the sky starts to light up use the brighter colors and as it becomes satellite switch to darker natural colors it should work.
It's a good theory and it does play out at times but not always.
nice slammer
On 8/14/2013 at 9:32 AM, Catt said:J33wolf, no disrespect meant but the "bigger the bait the bigger the bass" sounds good in thoery but it is simply that...a thoery.
Given the choice of a 4" shad 10 feet away and a 8" shad 20 yards away the bass will choose the closest
Why?
The biological fact; minimum output maximum intake!
It's nice to see Catt posting.
I've caught all kinds of bigger bass on small baits all kinds of smaller bass on bigger baits. IMO a fish goes after the easiest target, but there are times when fish are feeding on certain sized baits, too big or too small and you might be out of luck.
I fish a lot of bucktail jigs, simply put a bucktail is nothing but a fly with weight, can't tell ya how many 30 -40# fish are caught on 1/4 oz ones, when I see the fly fishermen catching fish I'm putting on a bucktail.
I don't know about that. I've been fishing swimbaits in the 6-9" range and I have been catching some bigguns. Not one bass has been under 2lbs for me for the past couple of months. It's also the way they displace in the water. They are a lot more bulky and move more water then say a worm.On 8/14/2013 at 9:32 AM, Catt said:J33wolf, no disrespect meant but the "bigger the bait the bigger the bass" sounds good in thoery but it is simply that...a thoery.
Given the choice of a 4" shad 10 feet away and a 8" shad 20 yards away the bass will choose the closest
Why?
The biological fact; minimum output maximum intake!
So GoneFish'n if you thoery works & you went from 6" swim baits to 18" swim baits you wouldn't catch any umder 6# correct?
I did not say that. You would catch more bigger ones... I'm not saying that, I'm just stating that I believe in the big bait= big fish theory. It's just a fact that the bigger the bait you have a bigger chance of getting a bigger fish. Think about how mike Gilbert caught a 17.4 out in Cali. He was fishing a swimbait. Probably something over 6-8"s knowing he's a trophy hunter. I can almost garuntee you that bass would not of hit a worm or jig. It was keying in on trout. Fish some swimbaits and you'll see how you catch a lot more bigger ones. Fishing these big swimbaits you cut out the middle man basically. You're going after those big ones. Yes I agree small bass will hit big swimbaits but in my own opinion you will ultimately catch more bigger ones. Yes I've caught small ones on them too. A 10" worm and a 10" swimbait even though the same size attract Completley different size bass/fish. So you're saying if you fish say a MattLures Deadtwitch you will catch a small one on it? It's about 14" long I beleive.On 8/14/2013 at 8:22 PM, Catt said:So GoneFish'n if you thoery works & you went from 6" swim baits to 18" swim baits you wouldn't catch any umder 6# correct?
On 8/14/2013 at 8:22 PM, Catt said:So GoneFish'n if you thoery works & you went from 6" swim baits to 18" swim baits you wouldn't catch any umder 6# correct?
There are days where a swimbait will smoke a jig and vice versa.
That's not a theory, jack. That's a fact.
Your statement also involves a point of diminishing returns. Honestly, if you were fishing an 18" swimbait I wouldnt expect that you would catch anything under 6# so in that case you are correct. I wouldn't expect to catch many at all but if I did, they would have some size to them.
Baits up to around 8" or so, you can reasonably expect to catch fish of all sizes with the majority falling in the "above average" class. Baits above that size range and you are targeting one thing: the biggest fish in your waters.
Ok lets throw out names
Our own Fish Chris Wolfgram, 18.4 Huddleston Huddle Bug
Mac Weakley's "Dotty", 25.01 Jig-N-Craw
Texas Share-A-Lunker, 548 documented 13# plus, 248 worm, 112 Jig-N-Craw, 5 on a Crappie Jig.
Wasnt dotty snagged in the face? He thought she picked it up but she didn't? Correct me if I'm wrong. I think swimbaits are acquainting more 10+ now adays. How long ago were these too? I think in the past year there have been multiple 15+ bass caught on swimbaits.On 8/14/2013 at 11:51 PM, Catt said:Ok lets throw out names
Our own Fish Chris Wolfgram, 18.4 Huddleston Huddle Bug
Mac Weakley's "Dotty", 25.01 Jig-N-Craw
Texas Share-A-Lunker, 548 documented 13# plus, 248 worm, 112 Jig-N-Craw, 5 on a Crappie Jig.
LOL, Fish Chris?
Going by your numbers there and using him as an example, why doesn't he throw the Hudd Bug exclusively then?
Different baits for different times.
"The amazing jig" ring a bell?
Yes Dotty was foil hooked but she was going to eat that jig Mac pulled the trigger to soon.
Explain the Texas bass caught on a Crappie jig?
All these bass hit what was in front of them, meaning the size of the lure didn't matter.
The reason I'm not saying anything about jigs is because I've been catching small ones on them. Plus, my lakes are not that deep for it. From all of the articles and threads I have read I agree that the jig can beat other baits on a certain day. I just haven't experienced it first hand. I've caught some big ones on jigs but most of my big ones have been on swimbaits. I just started fishing them I think about 2 if not less months ago and I've caught and fought some well over 3-8lbs. I've had two of my biggest come off in the past month. Ie experience the big bait equals big fish theory first hand. Just last Saturday I had a possible 10lber come off. There was no way I could keep its head down. Jumped about 5 times then shook loose in front of me. I've almost broken my PB maybe twice so far. That's what makes me think that swimbaits are the best big bass catchers. But I believe when I get older and experience fishing on bigger lakes more I will understand you're and everyone else's thought about jigs. It's just not smart say that big baits don't catch bigger bass. It just doesn't make sense(to me).On 8/15/2013 at 12:02 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Different baits for different times.
"The amazing jig" ring a bell?
I guess there is no explaining myself. Oh well. All I know is from first hand experience bigger baits catch bigger bass. It's just a fact. Thanks for you're input though. But see even though they go in depth in the video we have no idea of the truth. There was no video evidence of him hooking it. There's many possibities to what could have happend.On 8/15/2013 at 12:10 AM, Catt said:Yes Dotty was foil hooked but she was going to eat that jig Mac pulled the trigger to soon.
Explain the Texas bass caught on a Crappie jig?
All these bass hit what was in front of them, meaning the size of the lure didn't matter.
Ok here's what I think is happening, the small fish are active and on the bite, I find the bigger fish will cruise in but won't strike the smaller sized lures. The bigger fish will also scare the smaller ones away this is why the bite slows down. Once I upside my lure the bigger fish will hit it. This has happened to me many times now.
You may still catch the aggressive smaller fish inbetween the larger fish too that's not uncommon.
I just refuse to accept the bite is over when it slows down. I regroup and think about
what can I try next. We know the fish are there but they shut down for some reason.
I've seen turtles move in and shut them down too as well as the larger fish.
Fishing from shore I'm not going anywhere and In fishing the smaller places the fish aren't going anywhere to soon too. It's up to use to figure it out.
Fishing from darkness to first light the fish are from the surface, toshallow to deep at this time hunting like sharks. Within five minutes I can catch fish topwater(poppers), to shallow(cranks), to deeper running cranks. As it gets lighter the cruising will settle down and they start to move to there daytime haunts. At this time my carolina rig, my senko's, and my deeper running cranks are more successful along side the weedlines. To do change and fish the weeds with my topwater and shallow cranks. I move from the open water and channels to casting into the weeds/cover.
Bass are predators like cats are. It's like playing with a string(lure). Sometimes they will go after it at any speed or we need to slow it down to tease them. Cats will go after anything so the fish are no different. Sometimes even the cat will walk away does that sound familiar? Now change the string to a ball and the cat is back in the game.
This is why I change lures till I get action then I'm on a pattern. If it still get no action I change lure color next. I also change the speed of my presentations as I go too.
On 8/15/2013 at 12:10 AM, Catt said:All these bass hit what was in front of them, meaning the size of the lure didn't matter.
At that specific time, no, perhaps not.
At other times, you'd be foolish to think that. If they are feeding on bluegills, wouldn't the appropriate size and profile bait more readily get eaten? If there was just a trout stocking (foreign to you on TB), does it make more sense to fish a crappie jig or something resembling a trout?
See, you fish jigs and worms. That's what you know and I'll say, you're good at it. If you dedicated all that time to a swimbait, who knows what you would have caught at different times. Maybe it would have been better, maybe worse, but you would have a better understanding of swimbaits and how to apply them.
My answer to "bigger baits = bigger fish" is simply this: sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Maybe for someone bigger/bigger is always been true. But that simply hasn't been my experience.
Also Catt, using your shad analogy from above....
If I place that 8" bait at the same distance as the 4" bait, then by your thinking the 8" bait will most certainly be the one that gets bit since it would be the most reward for the same amount of energy expended. Your words.
So yeah, size of the bait would matter given that all other variables are the same.
Thats really what it just comes down to, first hand experience.On 8/15/2013 at 12:19 AM, DarrenM said:My answer to "bigger baits = bigger fish" is simply this: sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Maybe for someone bigger/bigger is always been true. But that simply hasn't been my experience.
bigger baits dont necessarily mean bigger fish....you can catch giants on tiny baits and small fish on giant baits and here is 2 examples of personal experience
caught a 43lb snook on a 1 inch square chunk of bait and also caught a 15 inch sea trout on a 14 inch live mullet lol
Fresh not salt. Not really the same for both but nice snook.On 8/15/2013 at 12:32 AM, derekxec said:bigger baits dont necessarily mean bigger fish....you can catch giants on tiny baits and small fish on giant baits and here is 2 examples of personal experience
caught a 43lb snook on a 1 inch square chunk of bait and also caught a 15 inch sea trout on a 14 inch live mullet lol
There no way to know if a bass caught on a swim bait would not have hit a jig or worm. There is no way to know if a bass caught on a jig or worm would not have hit a swim bait. But to think big bass hit only big baits is not true, they will hit what is in front of them.
SPEEDBEAD your thoery would be true if both shad did not move but since both will move the bass aint gonna chase the biggest simply because its bigget, its gonna chase the easiest to catch. The bass will not swim passed the smallest just to catch the biggest.
S
Never did I once say or hint at that big bass only hit swimbaits. Don't twist words, ruins you're point. I'm simply stating that the majority of bass caught on a swimbait is big. There's no point for me to try and argue with you. It's a fact that big swimbaits catch big bass, that's all.On 8/15/2013 at 12:44 AM, Catt said:There no way to know if a bass caught on a swim bait would not have hit a jig or worm. There is no way to know if a bass caught on a jig or worm would not have hit a swim bait. But to think big bass hit only big baits is not true, they will hit what is in front of them.
SPEEDBEAD your thoery would be true if both shad did not move but since both will move the bass aint gonna chase the biggest simply because its bigget, its gonna chase the easiest to catch. The bass will not swim passed the smallest just to catch the biggest.
S
I see bigger bass all the time swimming by me. I never see the bigger gals being caught. I think it's the size of our lures that attracts them or makes them just pass by. There big because there smarter. It's good to have an assortment of smaller, to midsize, to larger lures so you can try them all in certain situations. I just had the saltwater topwater lures repainted in bass lure colors along with my mister twister super top props. I even have some northern pike lures to throw too.
I find there are bigger bass in the 4 bodies of water where I fish I see them. If we have big bass in ct. Then all the other states have to have them too. It's a fact there not being caught. Since bass aren't restocked all the millions of baby bass aren't all
comming from fish under ten pounds. These big gals do not do the 9 to 5 the too. There hiding during the daylite. There cruising in the dark of night.
With fishing at night beaware of snakes in the trees at night near the water and the animals. Trust me the woods come alive at night.
Where did I say that?
Say what?On 8/15/2013 at 12:53 AM, Catt said:Where did I say that?
Where did I twist anyones words?
I aint arguing with anyone!
In you're 2nd to last post. "Big bass only hit big baits". Usually if you were to say that and then precede to say I don't believe in that, means that someone had to say it.On 8/15/2013 at 1:03 AM, Catt said:Where did I twist anyones words?
I aint arguing with anyone!
I think the only reason why big baits catch more big fish is that the smaller fish wont hit them as much. That is not always the case of course. I think the biggest issue is finding a big fish. And throwing it what it wants. Im not sure how picky of eaters bass are, but Im pretty big and i can tell you that i can eat a brat or those tiny little sausages. You just have to get it in front of me.
On 8/15/2013 at 12:44 AM, Catt said:SPEEDBEAD your thoery would be true if both shad did not move but since both will move the bass aint gonna chase the biggest simply because its bigget, its gonna chase the easiest to catch. The bass will not swim passed the smallest just to catch the biggest.
Your points do typically come off interpreted as "if it aint a jig 'n' craw or worm it doesnt catch big fish" and as I said, I expect you to have that view as that is what you've fished for the last however many decades.
In my example (using your examples of size), all things are equal. Distance away from the bass, swimming speed of the bait, etc. The only difference is the size of the baitfish. Using your stated "highest reward, least energy expended," then each and every time the bass is going to eat the bigger bait.
We both know there are no absolutes in fishing and bass have a mind of their own, no matter what we "think" we know about them.
Bottom line, IMO, present WHATEVER bait you happen to be throwing correctly and at the right time and you stand a better than average chance of hooking a big fish.
You have confidence fishing a jig in the locations where big bass are found.
I have that same confidence fishing a swimbait in those locations.
Two common denominators there....confidence and location. I dont care what the bait is, if you don't think it will catch big fish or there are no big fish there, you ain't catching squat.
Ok first GoneFish'n if you notice nowhere do I put the word "swim" in front of "big bait".
SPEED as soon as I learn how to flip a swim bait in matted Hydrilla I'll let you know.
Minimum output maximum intake!
Notice "output" is first meaning the bass will hit the closest saving enegery.
See GoneFish'n we can discuse and it aint arguing
On 8/15/2013 at 1:36 AM, Catt said:SPEED as soon as I learn how to flip a swim bait in matted Hydrilla I'll let you know.
316 mission fish, lube it with megastrike. The weight is built into the nose of the bait, it will punch through.
You don't even have to learn, you already know how to do it. Just because it's a swimbait doesn't necessarily mean it has to be swimming all the time. Fish it just like a jig. It's a different profile.
What's the worst that can happen? You learn something new and catch a few more fish...
Ya know I got some of them around here some where, some crazy guy from Cali sent to me.
Regarding you're other comment about my post I didn't put "s" in front of swimbait either :') (I have no earthly idea on how to do that smirk face you do haha). Never said it was an argument either. Just trying to explain to you something about swimbaits which you know nothing of(what it seems like). I'm not saying I know a lot about them, just a little bit. Like speed said a lot of you're posts I've seen is jig this, jig that. Try swimbaits for a month or two then come back to me and tell me that "big baits" don't catch bigger bass.On 8/15/2013 at 1:36 AM, Catt said:Ok first GoneFish'n if you notice nowhere do I put the word "swim" in front of "big bait".
SPEED as soon as I learn how to flip a swim bait in matted Hydrilla I'll let you know.
Minimum output maximum intake!
Notice "output" is first meaning the bass will hit the closest saving enegery.
See GoneFish'n we can discuse and it aint arguing
Good bait that is pretty versatile.
I'd recommend getting on the 316 website and watching how he bends the hook out toward the side of the bait before rigging it. Helps a ton on the hookup percentage.
Which one would you recommend for a weedy lake? I know he makes the weedless mission fish, but does it go through weeds easily?On 8/15/2013 at 1:49 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Good bait that is pretty versatile.
I'd recommend getting on the 316 website and watching how he bends the hook out toward the side of the bait before rigging it. Helps a ton on the hookup percentage.
I am about 60% big worm/jig and 40% big swimbaits so I like to think I know a little about a lot. That being said big baits are as much about output vs. input as well as a dinner bell ringing. They can in some cases send out the good vibrations and sound further than a jig or worm if the fish are just off the structure being fished and that is where I think one may shine over the other.
As far as big baits representing maximum input vs. effort that is not always the case. Take for example tiger tubes- those don't necessary represent a large shad or other bait fish, it may represent a ball of threadfin- big bass still bite anyhow.
On 8/15/2013 at 1:51 AM, GoneFishi said:Which one would you recommend for a weedy lake? I know he makes the weedless mission fish, but does it go through weeds easily?
How I fish it, yes. As I said, lube it with Megastrike and that will help keep weeds from sticking.
It's really no different than fishing a pegged T-rig worm. Same principle, different profile.
GoneFish'n you would be surprised what I know about swim baits. I have some orginal prototypes from MattLures and Huddleson. I was throwing swim baits in Texas and Louisiana before anyone.
Of the 30+ double diget bass I've caught none were on swim baits only because I was not throwing them not because I didn't think they would catch.
SPEED the one I have have a huge EWG with them.
You have some special stuff there. Sorry for being rude it just seemed the way you were talking you didn't know much about them.On 8/15/2013 at 2:08 AM, Catt said:GoneFish'n you would be surprised what I know about swim baits. I have some orginal prototypes from MattLures and Huddleson. I was throwing swim baits in Texas and Louisiana before anyone.
Of the 30+ double diget bass I've caught none were on swim baits only because I was not throwing them not because I didn't think they would catch.
Yeah, they have to be the bigger hooks to clear all that plastic.
Most times when you rig a MF, the bend of the hook will be right in line with the belly. The bait is split but you still want as much gap in there as possible. While it "should" slide up the line, that's not always the case.
When you rig it, before skin hooking the bait, take your pliers and bend the hook point left or right some. Just enough that when you skin hook it the point is still covered by the plastic on the top ridge of the bait.
On 8/14/2013 at 7:35 AM, Grizzn N Bassin said:IF you can get my some 6 footers im in need.. I ran out of my 5's looking for something a little bigger
You're lucky you can find 5's, we're lucky if we can find them in the 4.5s. Of course 6s maybe overkill for the Northern Strain.
Dang can't find em, mind is blank
If a big fish is hungry it's gonna eat something either big or small. If a small fish is hungry enough it will go after something big or small.
If its hungry it will eat
Funny people throwing out oh I caught a big bass on a 4" bait and I caught a small bass on a 8" bait do you know why that is? Because the fish was hungry and your lure was the closest thing to eat
I too am a firm believer in this. I caught my PB on a 12 in power worm.
On 8/15/2013 at 12:32 AM, derekxec said:bigger baits dont necessarily mean bigger fish....you can catch giants on tiny baits and small fish on giant baits and here is 2 examples of personal experience
caught a 43lb snook on a 1 inch square chunk of bait and also caught a 15 inch sea trout on a 14 inch live mullet lol
In fairness where derekxec and I fish in Florida larger swimbaits are not always conducive, the vegetation is too high or there is a lot of floating grass, a weedless fluke or a jig probably has caught most of my larger canal bass. There are times when weeds and grass are no problem, but some of canals are 6' and less, those are the times when a top lure really shines for bigger bass.
Snook are caught exactly the same way as bass, just as many 30 pounders are caught on a 1/4 oz bucktail as 6" windcheater.
On 8/14/2013 at 11:59 PM, GoneFishi said:Wasnt dotty snagged in the face? He thought she picked it up but she didn't? Correct me if I'm wrong. I think swimbaits are acquainting more 10+ now adays. How long ago were these too? I think in the past year there have been multiple 15+ bass caught on swimbaits.
Dotty's was fouled hooked...he admits it and did not enter it as record...classy guy for all the crap he endured behind it!
"Big baits catch big bass"
Sure seems to make sense .. but much of my experience doesnt exactly support it real well
ie..
Catching several 9"-11" bass on a 6" lure.. how they expected to eat that thing I'll never know.. but who cares.
Most of a 9" is its head and tail fin.. its not a real big body there.
Meanwhile I've caught my PB and several of the largest ones approaching that on a smaller 3.5" bait.
There gets to a point though when a bigger bait will simply spook the medium and smaller fish away and you'll be left with whether or not a larger fish wants to eat what you dished if its even around.
So in essence you may be excluding smaller fish with jumbo lures so of course a bigger bait will only usually catch bigger fish.
However, the bigger fish will also take a smaller lure too.
I think bass eat whatever is put in front of them and the bigger bass will just chomp on large and small depending on various factors like time of day, weather, water temperature, season,.. and its personality and how it feels at the moment.
Now I throw big bait.. but its cause I love tossing big bait and watching its huge action either topwater or subsurface.. but when I just need to land something and see a pretty fish large or small, I toss my smaller stuff just to scratch that itch cause I know they'll get it done more often than not and haul in a large, medium, or small.
My PB was caught today on a 1/4 oz topwater that I was pulling 12" bass from an hour earlier. I was shocked that that monster inhaled that tiny popper.
I fish a lot of soft plastics, and have caught more small fish on my magnum lizard than the regular sized one.....
I was a believer in bigger baits, bigger fish.....but now, not so much.
On 8/25/2013 at 7:23 AM, Tartan34 said:My PB was caught today on a 1/4 oz topwater that I was pulling 12" bass from an hour earlier. I was shocked that that monster inhaled that tiny popper.
I fish a lot of soft plastics, and have caught more small fish on my magnum lizard than the regular sized one.....
I was a believer in bigger baits, bigger fish.....but now, not so much.
Congrats on a new PB!
Didn't read the last 2 pages but wanted to say what's missing in this argument in the 1st 2 pages is this:
Big baits don't necessarily mean big fish but big baits eliminate many of the of smaller fish. Which can be key in certain scenarios where a smaller faster bass will gobble the bait up before the bigger bass can get to it. I've seen it happen while sight fishing, many times.