Tatula Bearing Upgrade 2024
rippin-lips reply :
The new tatula is a very popular reel right now and I thought I'd show you how to upgrade the bearings. For those who aren't familiar with tearing down a reel,this video is for you.
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I'm not affiliated with boca bearing company in any way. I just like their products.
Tywithay reply :
I've upgraded all of mine as well. Have three with Abec7s and one with Abec5s. Added knob bearings to them as well. They're fantastic reels out of the box, but for $20-$25, a set of bearings sure makes them even that much better. Great tutorial video, should be very helpful.
rippin-lips reply :
Yeah I added 1 more to each knob and 2 to the worm drive along with the 3 boca os for the spool.
dam0007 reply :
Rippin-lips - Seen another video of a guy who replaced the plastic bushings on the level wind with bearings. Do you think that would actually make a difference.
rippin-lips reply :
Yeah I did that and the knobs right away. The daiwa zillion has a bushing also. At $300 I don't see why they can't use a 20 cent bearing on it. Anyhow they say it makes the reel smoother on the retrieve when under load. As for being able to tell by just playing around. Well I can't but I know a bearing will outlast a piece of plastic and that's why I did it. Plus for $5 I got all 4 bearings. So why not replace the plastic parts while I had it apart.
Crankinstein reply :
Nice vid! I upgraded the spool bearings on mine a couple weeks ago but havent done the knobs or the worm drive yet.
dam0007 reply :
wait there's no bearings in the knobs?? That's dam near standard nowadays lol. Any chance you could dm me the bearing sizes or part numbers and/or link. Would be much appreciated!. I'm gonna do it to mine. Prob skip on boca bearings for the spool at this time. Gonna try the bocas out in my citica/spinnerbait set up first to see if I can deal with the sound.On 2/2/2014 at 4:44 AM, rippin-lips said:Yeah I did that and the knobs right away. The daiwa zillion has a bushing also. At $300 I don't see why they can't use a 20 cent bearing on it. Anyhow they say it makes the reel smoother on the retrieve when under load. As for being able to tell by just playing around. Well I can't but I know a bearing will outlast a piece of plastic and that's why I did it. Plus for $5 I got all 4 bearings. So why not replace the plastic parts while I had it apart.
CTGalloway21 reply :
aren't ABECs normally only useful if you throw heavier lures or lighter lures?
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/2/2014 at 11:15 PM, dam0007 said:wait there's no bearings in the knobs?? That's dam near standard nowadays lol. Any chance you could dm me the bearing sizes or part numbers and/or link. Would be much appreciated!. I'm gonna do it to mine. Prob skip on boca bearings for the spool at this time. Gonna try the bocas out in my citica/spinnerbait set up first to see if I can deal with the sound.
There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/3/2014 at 12:12 AM, CTGalloway21 said:aren't ABECs normally only useful if you throw heavier lures or lighter lures?
It makes casting the same distance as before take less effort. Also makes pitching easier with the faster start up of the spool. That can also be said for lighter baits too.
dam0007 reply :
On 2/3/2014 at 12:14 AM, rippin-lips said:There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped
Thanks bro!
Loop_Dad reply :
On 2/2/2014 at 3:42 AM, Tywithay said:I've upgraded all of mine as well. Have three with Abec7s and one with Abec5s. Added knob bearings to them as well. They're fantastic reels out of the box, but for $20-$25, a set of bearings sure makes them even that much better. Great tutorial video, should be very helpful.
I've never upgraded bearings before, but thinking about trying on my Tatula. Where do I find a $20 set that performs? Thanks!
ripplin_lips, nice video! You are skilled.
rippin-lips reply :
Contact DVT as he offers 10% off for BR members. The boca os abec 7'a normally run about $25. They also offer an abec 5 which would be nice too. I would flush and lube your stock bearings first. It makes a huge improvement. The upgraded bearings for me is just more of a tinkering thing. Also thank you for the kind words.On 2/16/2014 at 8:43 AM, Loop_Dad said:I've never upgraded bearings before, but thinking about trying on my Tatula. Where do I find a $20 set that performs? Thanks!
ripplin_lips, nice video! You are skilled.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 8:59 AM, rippin-lips said:Contact DVT as he offers 10% off for BR members. The boca os abec 7'a normally run about $25. They also offer an abec 5 which would be nice too. I would flush and lube your stock bearings first. It makes a huge improvement. The upgraded bearings for me is just more of a tinkering thing. Also thank you for the kind words.
Thanks, will contact them. My Tatula's been flushed and oiled already before I even spooled it with line. I am just curious about those upgraded bearings that people talk about.
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 9:08 AM, Loop_Dad said:Thanks, will contact them. My Tatula's been flushed and oiled already before I even spooled it with line. I am just curious about those upgraded bearings that people talk about.
It makes casting the same distance a bit easier. It improves pitching a bait. The better bearings allow for quicker startup on the pitch. Unless you have superb thumb control you aren't going to be floored by the results.
AQUA VELVA reply :
What is the correct way to flush bearings?
Loop_Dad reply :
I've noticed that pitching is already pretty good with Tatula. With upgraded bearing, this might become my pitching machine. I'll do it scientifically. Record the distance of say 20 pitches before and after to see if I can spy obvious difference there.
rippin-lips reply :
There's a few ways to do it. Soak in acetone,soak in hot water and degreaser like simple green,brake cleaner from a parts store.On 2/16/2014 at 9:16 AM, AQUA VELVA said:What is the correct way to flush bearings?
I use brake cleaner because I always have it around the garage and it just works very well for me.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 2/2/2014 at 3:47 AM, rippin-lips said:Yeah I added 1 more to each knob and 2 to the worm drive along with the 3 boca os for the spool.
3 os7's for the spool???
Tywithay reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 11:15 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:3 os7's for the spool???
There's technically 3 bearings along the spool shaft. 1 in the non-handle sideplate, one under the cast control knob, and another on the pinion.
dam0007 reply :
placing order tonight... What kind of bearings did you do, regular stainless, abec 5's, 7's?On 2/3/2014 at 12:14 AM, rippin-lips said:There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 11:41 AM, dam0007 said:placing order tonight... What kind of bearings did you do, regular stainless, abec 5's, 7's?
I just went with the cheapest I could find. They were from a place that's sells bearings for rc cars. I paid less the $6 for the 4 bearings.
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 11:15 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:3 os7's for the spool???
Yeah 3 in total.
dam0007 reply :
I'm gonna replace the existing ones with what I replace the bushings with in handles so they match. Then the worm gear ones the same. So 6 each real plus ordering more for my curadosOn 2/16/2014 at 11:44 AM, rippin-lips said:I just went with the cheapest I could find. They were from a place that's sells bearings for rc cars. I paid less the $6 for the 4 bearings.
Tywithay reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 11:53 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Does the cast control one need to be os7 or can it be say abec5SS and the other two os7
What Im getting at are all 3 in contact during cast or just the side and pinion?
The one under the cast control spins when the spool is spinning, not sure about the pinion. I think the bearing in the pinion only comes in contact when the reel is under load.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 12:08 PM, Tywithay said:The one under the cast control spins when the spool is spinning, not sure about the pinion. I think the bearing in the pinion only comes in contact when the reel is under load.
I deleted my own post oops
but the one Im thinking is the one under the handle that is 8x12x3.5 that need to be os7 or can that be just say abec5SS? I looked and its part#83 I believe
Tywithay reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 12:17 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:I deleted my own post oops
but the one Im thinking is the one under the handle that is 8x12x3.5 that need to be os7 or can that be just say abec5SS? I looked and its part#83 I believe
That bearing can be abec1 if you want. If you upgrade it and the pinion bearing, you might be able to freespin the handle for 10 seconds, but out on the water it wouldn't aid in performance at all. It's only working at slow speeds, far slower than any bearing is capable.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Thanks for the helps guys
3 os7 for spool found kit-http://www.bocabearings.com/productdetail.aspx?ItemID=24113
1 abec5 under handle
6 abec3 for knobs & worm shaft
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 12:40 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Thanks for the helps guys
3 os7 for spool found kit-http://www.bocabearings.com/productdetail.aspx?ItemID=24113
1 abec5 under handle
6 abec3 for knobs & worm shaft
The one under the handle is fine stock and you only need 4 for the knobs and worm gear. The rating won't affect them.
Teal reply :
Awesome video Adam. It was great to put a face/beard on the man who we see contribute so much on here.
.RM. reply :
On 2/3/2014 at 12:12 AM, CTGalloway21 said:aren't ABECs normally only useful if you throw heavier lures or lighter lures?
The ABEC scale is an industry accepted standard for the tolerances of a ball bearing. It was developed by the Annular Bearing Engineering Committee (ABEC)
All bearings are ABEC, whether or not they are 3, 5, 7, 9 tell the tolerances, and actually have nothing to do with lure weights..
Good Luck & Tight Lines! 
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 5:22 PM, Teal said:Awesome video Adam. It was great to put a face/beard on the man who we see contribute so much on here.
Haha thanks bud and I try.
dam0007 reply :
ordered them today.... So I think I f'd myself. I remember you saying 5 or 6 bucks didn't remember if it was each or all 4... Called boca and guy was like 8 something I for stainless abec 5s non ceramic told him I wanted cheaper end of the spectrum cuz they're not for spool. Come to find out I paid 8 per bearing. So I get home re read your post above and threw up in my mouth a little bit. So I may end up putting these in my Chronarch handles and the chronarch bearings put em in my curados. ... A day in the life I swear..... Can u give me link for ones you bought so I can order me now. Not paying another 30 something lolOn 2/16/2014 at 11:44 AM, rippin-lips said:I just went with the cheapest I could find. They were from a place that's sells bearings for rc cars. I paid less the $6 for the 4 bearings.
rippin-lips reply :
Yeah all 4 for $6. The abec ratings are for tolerances of the bearings. Any bearing would of been just fine. No need for abec 5.
dam0007 reply :
http://www.fullforcerc.com/MR74-2RS check theseOn 2/22/2014 at 10:21 AM, rippin-lips said:Yeah all 4 for $6. The abec ratings are for tolerances of the bearings. Any bearing would of been just fine. No need for abec 5.
rippin-lips reply :
Yup those are what I used. You'll need a few shims to get out the play and have the knobs just right. 4x7x.5
dam0007 reply :
.5 or 2.5 typo?On 2/22/2014 at 1:39 PM, rippin-lips said:Yup those are what I used. You'll need a few shims to get out the play and have the knobs just right. 4x7x.5
Tywithay reply :
On 2/22/2014 at 2:50 PM, dam0007 said:.5 or 2.5 typo?
4x7x2.5, probably a typo. Boca has 10 packs of econo bearings that do just fine as well. Look on the net for coupons, save some cash that way too.
rippin-lips reply :
You will need .5 shims to get rid of any wiggle in the knobs. It could take none or it could take 2-3
iHavok reply :
Sorry to thread necro, but I was looking into upgrading my Tatula Type R and there's good info in this thread but it's a little jumbled.
My TL;DR version
Popular (pricey but good/overkill?) bearing sites
https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/
https://www.bocabearings.com/products/bearing-applications/fishing-reel-bearings?ProductType=2&ItemMakes=DAIWA
I can't say how good the bocas or hedgehogs are, but the price scared me away so I tried these and am the free spin pretty well. It's winter so I haven't gotten a chance to cast yet though so time will tell.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daiwa-Tatula-Spool-Speed-SI3N4-Ceramic-Bearings-size-1-3x10x4-1-3x8x4-kit/183060767977?hash=item2a9f45a4e9:g:vTMAAOSwjfNZoH5A
Bearing sizes
Brake side plate: 3x8x4
Handle side plate: 3x10x4
Worm shaft: 4x7x2.5 (x2)
Handle knobs: 4x7x2.5 (x2, comes stock with a bearing and plastic bushing per knob so you replace both plastic bushings)
Gerald
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